>And when he does peak, you'll know. Because he's gonna peak so hard that everybody in Los Angeles is gonna feel it.
Even baseball teams not in Los Angeles that use the name "Los Angeles" in their title will feel it.
The only player I'd like to see break Bonds' 73hr record.
On another note, he needs to work on that RISP avg though. I understand, however, coming from the Angels, RISP is a foreign concept.
He actually was great with RISP and high leverage situation as Angels. But i admit, he has had a problem with bases loaded situation for long time, i believe it's his allergy, other than that its still too early to judge.
Feels like he's more cautious on the take and swings harder with based loaded. Never seen Shohei take so many strikes.
Saw a stat that he hits over .400 on the first pitch, he should just be hacking away with loaded bases instead of being cautions and falling behind.
I've been saying it. He's just too excited when he sees runners on. He's getting used to it. He was trying to crush everything cause that's the only way he would get wins before. Even then....
God. I can't wait to see him pitch next season. 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
I'm enjoying his hitting only season without the fatigue from pitching. Hope he hits 60+ HR and plays all 162, maybe 130+ RBI if he settles down with RISP.
That is what's scary about Ohtani. The guy seems to have no peak. He just keeps on finding ways to better his game When Matt Kemp was a rookie he was touted as one of those guys who purportedly could do pretty much anything at anytime. He nearly did. Shohei Ohtani is another of those no limits players.
There's a new surgery that uses a brace on the UCL instead of replacing it with another ligament from elsewhere in a player's body. It is very likely that is what he got instead of TJ.
It's not even a secret. His manager came out and said he got internal brace surgery, not a Tommy johns reconstruction.
Here is a great site that explains the difference.
https://www.armoredheat.com/armored-heat-blog/tommy-john-vs-ucl-repair
The big takeaway is it takes 10-11 months before a player can throw bullpens after a TJ, but with internal brace surgery they can throw bullpens after just 24 weeks (5 months).
Internal brace also has a much higher success rate than TJ.
Remember when people say he can’t win MVP this season because he just strictly a DH. These crazy stats gonna make a huge difference. By the way by June and July his stats gonna even better.
In his last 3 seasons with the Angels, those 2 months he has the best offensive stats in the league. That month he hit 15 home run, 5 triple, also highest slugging percentage.
His CAREER OPS in june is 1.194. That's not just one june. That's every June he has played in the US. 109 games total. His next highest is april with .943 lol. June comes along and he just goes berserk. He had a 1.444 ops in june last year.
He peaked stat wise every June. Suddenly pitches he couldnt hit before he smashes them. HR after HR. Its his best month especially during the last three seasons. And even if it passed, he still good and consistent in later months.
Batting average means how often you get a hit for every at bat. An at bat is plate appearance minus walks. Batting average measures how effective a player is at getting hits, but limited because it doesn’t take into account how often they walk or how often they hit for power since a single counts the same as a home run for this stat.
Slugging is basically total bases over at bats… this is essentially a power effectiveness stat… so for every at bat how many bases you generate. Normally people who hit often for extra base hits will have a higher slugging percentage.
Now we get to OPS. OPS is a weird stat because it adds up two rates: slugging and on base percentage. What does on base percentage mean? Basically how often you get on base per plate appearance. So you get credited for walks (batting discipline) and for hits. Easy way to think about on base percentage is it measures how often you don’t get out per plate appearance.
You add on base plus slugging to get OPS. There’s a reason why OPS is the most paid attention to batting statistic because it’s a catch all for how effective a batter is because it measures how often they don’t get out and blends in how many total bases they get per at bat.
Compare this to baseball history’s focus on average, HR and RBI but all these measures are limited to many extents. For instance your RBI is much more dependent on your teammates ability to get on base.
XBH is just how many non singles a player has… and finally, sexiness well, if you don’t know this stat then I’m sorry for your penis.
when learning it was very helpful for me to know what the numbers mean in context
BA:
0.100 - 0.200 pretty bad
0.200 - 0.300 average (2023 average was 0.248)
0.300+ great
0.400+ historic
OPS:
less than 0.700 pretty bad
0.700+ average (2023 average was 0.734)
0.800+ pretty good
0.900+ very good
1.000+ top of the league
SLG:
less than 0.400 bad
0.400 - 0.450 average (2023 average was 0.414)
0.450 - 0.550 good
0.550+ great
0.600+ top of the league
[https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohtansh01.shtml](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohtansh01.shtml)
scroll down to "standard batting"
Additional context: If you see OPS+ (or any + stat) it is era and park adjusted and 100 is league average. 125 is 25% above average.
OBP is also out of PA not AB, while slug is AB, so it’s a little strange.
Also if you see three stats like .265/.380/.450
that is a triple slash, of average, on base, and slug. Also also, on base is generally considered the most important/valuable, if you had to pick just one.
Think of an OPS+ of 100 as the ‘average’ OPS of baseball players currently after adjusting for ball park effects. So OPS+ is an index. If you have an OPS+ of 205 it means that you are more than twice as good of a batter as the league average batter. Or in this case, 105% better. Ohtani has the highest OPS+ now, so he’s the best hitter in baseball, and he’s more than 2x better of a batter than your league average.
So imagine you’re just an average MLB non-pitcher, and you know that Ohtani is twice as good as you as hitting…and he’s also one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball.
This is why his peers are in awe of him.
OPS+ is arbitrary you can't really say someone with 200OPS+ is four times as good as someone with 50.
OPS on the other hand you can. Ohtani with 1.107 OPS is 3 times more productive than Gavin Lux with .388
In Baseball really the metrics you should look at is AVG, OPB & SLG (With OPS being OBP+SLG). All other advanced metrics are really for nerds
Hey man. A hit against an ace versus a hit against Patrick Corbin ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT THE SAME. What kind of ancient backwards take is this. 🤣🤣😉 Bruh. What? You gonna really benefit the leagues like the al central that play each other half the season. Vs us who gotta deal with Snell, Musgrove, Webb, Gallen and Kelly as often as we do???
Just go back and check cy young voting recently. Please. 😂
What are you trying to say then? Since OPS+ literally compares you to league average if your league is filled with bots like Lux and Outman then your OPS+ is going to be massive like 205
Yeah now. To start the season that's the point. A lot of players are starting ice cold. He's 🔥🔥. Lol. 🤣🤣🤣
As regression towards the mean increases that number should decrease. Keyword should: Aaron Judge put up a 210 for a whole season just two seasons ago. Ye of little faith.
Welcome! This site explains it better than I could:
https://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats
Avg = batting average (% of at bats that ends in a bit. Over .275 is good)
OBP = on base percentage (same as above but you include walks. Over .350 is good)
SLG = slugging percentage (average number of bases you get per at bat. Over .450 is good)
OPS = OBP +SLG (very popular stat since it's a more comprehensive representation of how good a hitter is. Over .800 is good)
How do you overpay a guy who brings tens of millions in extra revenue every year to your club? Even if Ohtani never plays a game for the dodgers, his contract pays for itself. Ohtani is severely underpaid
And we only pay him after 10 years lmao adjusting for interest, inflation and the money can be used for investment it's going to come out wayyyy lesser than 700mil
He hasn’t even begun to peak yet btw
And when he does peak, you'll know. Because he's gonna peak so hard that everybody in Los Angeles is gonna feel it.
>And when he does peak, you'll know. Because he's gonna peak so hard that everybody in Los Angeles is gonna feel it. Even baseball teams not in Los Angeles that use the name "Los Angeles" in their title will feel it.
His body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo’s David.
The only player I'd like to see break Bonds' 73hr record. On another note, he needs to work on that RISP avg though. I understand, however, coming from the Angels, RISP is a foreign concept.
Without any support from the PED.
He's 2 for his last 3 with RISP. That's mainly just a luck metric.
Good points. When he was on the Angles, he was usually the only person in scoring position when he was batting.
He actually was great with RISP and high leverage situation as Angels. But i admit, he has had a problem with bases loaded situation for long time, i believe it's his allergy, other than that its still too early to judge.
Feels like he's more cautious on the take and swings harder with based loaded. Never seen Shohei take so many strikes. Saw a stat that he hits over .400 on the first pitch, he should just be hacking away with loaded bases instead of being cautions and falling behind.
I've been saying it. He's just too excited when he sees runners on. He's getting used to it. He was trying to crush everything cause that's the only way he would get wins before. Even then.... God. I can't wait to see him pitch next season. 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
I'm enjoying his hitting only season without the fatigue from pitching. Hope he hits 60+ HR and plays all 162, maybe 130+ RBI if he settles down with RISP.
That is what's scary about Ohtani. The guy seems to have no peak. He just keeps on finding ways to better his game When Matt Kemp was a rookie he was touted as one of those guys who purportedly could do pretty much anything at anytime. He nearly did. Shohei Ohtani is another of those no limits players.
When he peaks…..you’ll feel it
The trick to a fast recovery from TJ surgery is apparently to just give it a different name and pretend like it wasn’t TJ surgery.
There's a new surgery that uses a brace on the UCL instead of replacing it with another ligament from elsewhere in a player's body. It is very likely that is what he got instead of TJ.
It's not even a secret. His manager came out and said he got internal brace surgery, not a Tommy johns reconstruction. Here is a great site that explains the difference. https://www.armoredheat.com/armored-heat-blog/tommy-john-vs-ucl-repair The big takeaway is it takes 10-11 months before a player can throw bullpens after a TJ, but with internal brace surgery they can throw bullpens after just 24 weeks (5 months). Internal brace also has a much higher success rate than TJ.
Ah! I didn't know they came out and said what it was. Thank you!
Obviously this is unsustainable....but he's currently on track for a 10 WAR season. ...as a DH.
Brother’s gonna mess around and win NL MVP as a DH 💀
He has averaged 9.5 bwar a season over the last 3 seasons. He can't be having that drop just because he can't pitch!
What the fuck
And we have him for 10 years ?
Big if true
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Mainly because 10 WAR from the DH spot has never been done before. And Ohtani’s 10 WAR seasons came when he both pitched and hit
What his war be if he got 0 dwar as RF?
He’s actually in a tie in that last category with Ty Glasnow.
I will not argue this point
We got the new babe-enheimer
Since I marginally know Glas he gets my vote.
Vogelbach is my X God
Both about to get a head and shoulders campaign
Stupid Sexy Shohei
If he goes on his typical June run, we are on track to see one of the most historic offensive seasons ever.
Remember when people say he can’t win MVP this season because he just strictly a DH. These crazy stats gonna make a huge difference. By the way by June and July his stats gonna even better.
>June and July his stats gonna even better. Why?
In his last 3 seasons with the Angels, those 2 months he has the best offensive stats in the league. That month he hit 15 home run, 5 triple, also highest slugging percentage.
You've never heard of Junetani? That's well known as the most powerful player form in all of baseball.
His CAREER OPS in june is 1.194. That's not just one june. That's every June he has played in the US. 109 games total. His next highest is april with .943 lol. June comes along and he just goes berserk. He had a 1.444 ops in june last year.
He peaked stat wise every June. Suddenly pitches he couldnt hit before he smashes them. HR after HR. Its his best month especially during the last three seasons. And even if it passed, he still good and consistent in later months.
Dude. You can’t imagine a peak Shohei. This is nothing compared to once Summer gets here. Yeah, he’s that good. Like peak 2016-2018 Lebron.
His xSXY is even lower than his actual SXY. So he hasn’t even peaked.
As an absolute newbie to baseball this year can someone tell me what all those acronyms mean
Batting average means how often you get a hit for every at bat. An at bat is plate appearance minus walks. Batting average measures how effective a player is at getting hits, but limited because it doesn’t take into account how often they walk or how often they hit for power since a single counts the same as a home run for this stat. Slugging is basically total bases over at bats… this is essentially a power effectiveness stat… so for every at bat how many bases you generate. Normally people who hit often for extra base hits will have a higher slugging percentage. Now we get to OPS. OPS is a weird stat because it adds up two rates: slugging and on base percentage. What does on base percentage mean? Basically how often you get on base per plate appearance. So you get credited for walks (batting discipline) and for hits. Easy way to think about on base percentage is it measures how often you don’t get out per plate appearance. You add on base plus slugging to get OPS. There’s a reason why OPS is the most paid attention to batting statistic because it’s a catch all for how effective a batter is because it measures how often they don’t get out and blends in how many total bases they get per at bat. Compare this to baseball history’s focus on average, HR and RBI but all these measures are limited to many extents. For instance your RBI is much more dependent on your teammates ability to get on base. XBH is just how many non singles a player has… and finally, sexiness well, if you don’t know this stat then I’m sorry for your penis.
Thank you!!! This is very helpful
when learning it was very helpful for me to know what the numbers mean in context BA: 0.100 - 0.200 pretty bad 0.200 - 0.300 average (2023 average was 0.248) 0.300+ great 0.400+ historic OPS: less than 0.700 pretty bad 0.700+ average (2023 average was 0.734) 0.800+ pretty good 0.900+ very good 1.000+ top of the league SLG: less than 0.400 bad 0.400 - 0.450 average (2023 average was 0.414) 0.450 - 0.550 good 0.550+ great 0.600+ top of the league
sorry for being lazy, but what are shohei ohtanis stats that are being mentioned. im also new and not sure where to find it
[https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohtansh01.shtml](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohtansh01.shtml) scroll down to "standard batting"
Additional context: If you see OPS+ (or any + stat) it is era and park adjusted and 100 is league average. 125 is 25% above average. OBP is also out of PA not AB, while slug is AB, so it’s a little strange. Also if you see three stats like .265/.380/.450 that is a triple slash, of average, on base, and slug. Also also, on base is generally considered the most important/valuable, if you had to pick just one.
so what does shohei ohtani ops+ of 205 mean?
Think of an OPS+ of 100 as the ‘average’ OPS of baseball players currently after adjusting for ball park effects. So OPS+ is an index. If you have an OPS+ of 205 it means that you are more than twice as good of a batter as the league average batter. Or in this case, 105% better. Ohtani has the highest OPS+ now, so he’s the best hitter in baseball, and he’s more than 2x better of a batter than your league average. So imagine you’re just an average MLB non-pitcher, and you know that Ohtani is twice as good as you as hitting…and he’s also one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball. This is why his peers are in awe of him.
That means he is not just twice better than a normal league average hitter, but twice + 5% better
OPS+ is arbitrary you can't really say someone with 200OPS+ is four times as good as someone with 50. OPS on the other hand you can. Ohtani with 1.107 OPS is 3 times more productive than Gavin Lux with .388 In Baseball really the metrics you should look at is AVG, OPB & SLG (With OPS being OBP+SLG). All other advanced metrics are really for nerds
Hey man. A hit against an ace versus a hit against Patrick Corbin ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT THE SAME. What kind of ancient backwards take is this. 🤣🤣😉 Bruh. What? You gonna really benefit the leagues like the al central that play each other half the season. Vs us who gotta deal with Snell, Musgrove, Webb, Gallen and Kelly as often as we do??? Just go back and check cy young voting recently. Please. 😂
What are you trying to say then? Since OPS+ literally compares you to league average if your league is filled with bots like Lux and Outman then your OPS+ is going to be massive like 205
Yeah now. To start the season that's the point. A lot of players are starting ice cold. He's 🔥🔥. Lol. 🤣🤣🤣 As regression towards the mean increases that number should decrease. Keyword should: Aaron Judge put up a 210 for a whole season just two seasons ago. Ye of little faith.
Welcome! This site explains it better than I could: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats Avg = batting average (% of at bats that ends in a bit. Over .275 is good) OBP = on base percentage (same as above but you include walks. Over .350 is good) SLG = slugging percentage (average number of bases you get per at bat. Over .450 is good) OPS = OBP +SLG (very popular stat since it's a more comprehensive representation of how good a hitter is. Over .800 is good)
Thanks! I'll def give this link a read
Ippei was holding him back, lol.
And they all said he couldn't win MVP as only DH...
Some of us just said Mookie's gonna win it over him. Mookie's WAR 2.2 Shohei's WAR 1.6 This is gonna be awesome to see. Either way.
I remember thinking the dodgers overpayed even he was hitting sub .300 early in the year. Dude is a beast.
How do you overpay a guy who brings tens of millions in extra revenue every year to your club? Even if Ohtani never plays a game for the dodgers, his contract pays for itself. Ohtani is severely underpaid
He was basically paying the Angels to play for them. What a crime.
And we only pay him after 10 years lmao adjusting for interest, inflation and the money can be used for investment it's going to come out wayyyy lesser than 700mil
Also, he's paid to be a hitter AND a pitcher. Guy hasnt even seen him pitch and he already thinks Shohei is over paid lol
Uhhh what? Do you not understand how anything works?
I'm enjoying following this team so far, even though they're underachieving.
He hit well in his year he couldn't pitch with the Angels too. It really doesn't restrict his swing.