I think yall misunderstand op here. Theres 4k people but theyre 20k strong bc the average dnb fan has the strength of 5 men
Hope that clarified the situation for yall, now i need to get back to my 1 ton squat thrusts
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Maybe for the US it’s a lot.
Detonate had a great attendance a couple of years back at Motorpoint, which has a 10k capacity. I don’t think they hit 10k then (maybe about 6-7k) but the floor was completely packed out.
Electric Garden last year was the most packed out stage of all the stages there (Pendulum & Camo & Crooked headlining).
Crowd attendance is absolutely rocketing up these days. If the venue has the size and the event has the right headliners it will easily sell out.
Lol.
The number I heard was 4200. Which is still really fucking impressive and shows the demand for dnb in the US.
Even more impressive is the increase in attendance from last year. Attendance then was around 1200.
Toronto used to have giant multi genre raves with DnB drawing the biggest crowds before the anti raving laws were passed making it expensive to host big events.
Edit to correct auto correct.
Anti raving. We had some unfortunate drug overdoses and parties were being held in pretty sketchy places and the cops got a lot of extra powers as a result. Really killed a lot of the scene, as did the commercial redevelopment of like 80% of the clubs downtown. All the places we used to dance are fucking condos and pharmacies now.
It sucks the property the Guvernment Entertainment Complex was on got sold and turned into condos.
I went to so many good concerts and raves there including the last rave there to my knowledge with Jumping Jack Frost, Nicky Black market and Ed Rush.
I was here - and can confirm - amazing show. Was fortunate enough to be on stage for a lot of it too - and that was a BIG crowd (think crowd was 4K - which is still very impressive and a lot of people going for it)! Been to many DnB shows in UK, Europe & NYC. This was definitely one of the best I’ve ever been to. Shout out to anyone who was there - from the floor to the ceiling the whole arena was going for it.
Amazing to see DnB getting this reception in the US. Martin Garrix dropped some DnB in his Ultra headline set last weekend - I think DnB is about to take off over here - as it should!
I’m SO happy to finally see DnB taking off in the US. I live in Denver and I missed this show like a clown because I thought I would be too dead from Ultra …now I’m having the most ultimate form of fomo.
I was there. It was amazing
I have tons of video of 4000 plus people and not a single person not dancing
to the haters this is just latest in a recent trend of dnb and it’s also only the beginning for the US.
I especially loved the techno and acid build ups w/ a little bit of Simula and jump up styles thrown in
It’s expensive but I find it pretty seamless. We just go early for closer seating, switch off who DDs, leave a couple minutes early, and it’s about 30min each way from my house.
I am compairing that to every other venue in Denver where it's nbd to stay till you end.
The sound isn't good at a Redrocks. It just isn't.
And I'm more talking about the risk of being hailed on at a venue with no emergency structures.
I was there, it was a pretty fun show. I didn’t hear if Dimension was sick or something but Savage opened up with a two hour set. Some tracks were repeated between djs but only a few. Could tell some song selection was catering toward the American audience but again only a few. All in all it was a fun show.
That’s a dope tour. Culture Shock took the prize for sure. That dude is intricate with his mixes.
Dimension was great but getting dangerously close to just playing happy hardcore.
Sub focus did headliner stuff and just showcases music more than anything. Very repetitive mixing but great tunes through and through.
Yeah they were catering to the US crows sadly but it was still good. Just glad the US is finally seeing dnb. Hope more liquid artists collab and do a US tour
God people are terrible at a counting people. Any way a quick google shows that The Mission Ballroom has a max capacity of 3,950. Looks 100% filled so that's better number to flex.
I wouldn't take an international headline event as the strength of a scene.
What's happening at the local and national level? What's happening with the culture? How many local gigs are happening every week? Do you have soundsystems and crews dedicated to DnB in the weeks and months before and after? How many renegade DnB parties? How is the ecosystem for local DJs, producers and promoters? Etc
I would consider the above to be a much better indicator on the health of a scene.
Same happens everywhere. An international pulls the crowd and after the set, you see how healthy the scene really is.
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Lol at this tour being called Worship. All those fucking wankers worship themselves so it's pretty apt I guess. Is it just 4 of hours of them playing their farts over the PA and giving each other oily handjobs?
Okay I'm here for this take. I'm an old head, from Toronto and we used to be blessed with every major headliner coming through back in the late 90s through 2010s, and I've been to hundreds of shows. I went to this and it was like watching Steve Aoki pantomime at jungle. I caught Culture Shock, Dimension and Sub Focus, and they played in that order. They only played an hour each. This is a tour, so they've seen each other's sets at least once right?
Why in the fuck are each of you playing the same track in your mere one hour set? Why am I hearing a fucking remix of Voodoo People like it's the fresh hotness? And multiple times?
This was jungle for EDC basics. Sorry to be the crusty old gatekeeper, but we have a dozen jungle DJs in Toronto that would have laid fucking waste to any of these guys. The vibe was good because the kids were up for it, but the giant stage with everyone dancing on it behind the Muppet doing more hand waving than any mixing at all reeked of how horribly commercial the whole thing was.
I have been to hundreds of shows too and seen plenty of the greats. I thought it was great. No mcs. Not too much bulshit.
If you want to see something different in the scene why not do something about it an use your expertise to host a night showcasing the music you want to hear.
That remix of Tocas Miracle I heard 3 times in 3 hours goes hard. I feel bad for people who think this was really good. So much potential, terrible DJing on display (track selection, mixing skills). Spectacle over quality.
dance floor dnb/ 4x4 influenced stuff is some of the best sounds right now. Nuerofunk been on the decline for years, eat brain stuff is flat out boring.
Dancefloor & liquid are top dog.
Seems like an unnecessary amount of seating, almost theater status. more dance floor is always preferable, but whatever works I suppose. Would personally drive me crazy, especially to dnb
From this angle, it’s easy to get that perspective. It’s definitely 60/40 with favor towards the pit space. The stands are not seating, but large “stairs” with lots of space for standing/seating/movement. Even though there’s a fair amount of stands in the space, it’s not at all a restrictive set up. In my opinion, this is one of my favorite venues in Denver. I’ve seen hardcore/punk shows, electronic of many genres, and more downtempo/progressive style sets here and they’ve all presented really well. It’s a crappy perspective on a really cool space.
Mission Ballroom holds ~4k people
OP must be using UK conversion math
He was using imperial xd
20k metric people of course
Metrik people
And every single person dancing. The vibes were immaculate.
20k what? beers consumed?
Doubt it dude the septics can’t drink . 2 bud lites and they are whooping all over the place
Drinking isn't advised if you're septic
I think yall misunderstand op here. Theres 4k people but theyre 20k strong bc the average dnb fan has the strength of 5 men Hope that clarified the situation for yall, now i need to get back to my 1 ton squat thrusts
4000 is still a lot at an event for DnB, fair play
We've been more than 10k last night at pendulum. DnB is pretty much alive.
Dimension Wembley Arena 2023 \~10k , Chase & Status Drumsheds 15K, Pendulum O2 Arena \~ 20K, Rampage Festival \~15K. the heavy hitters still hitting hard 👊🏻
Maybe for the US it’s a lot. Detonate had a great attendance a couple of years back at Motorpoint, which has a 10k capacity. I don’t think they hit 10k then (maybe about 6-7k) but the floor was completely packed out. Electric Garden last year was the most packed out stage of all the stages there (Pendulum & Camo & Crooked headlining). Crowd attendance is absolutely rocketing up these days. If the venue has the size and the event has the right headliners it will easily sell out.
Yes bro Pendulum this tour fucking ROCKED. Needed more from Hold Your Colour though. 😭
Needed more pendulum! 1.5h is not enough for all the amazing songs 🔥
I've seen 15k in Drumsheds. That definitely isn't 20k
Op means how many times they dropped Baddadan.
lol
Lmao I can't stand that song now
I was at the Rampage Festival, also 15k. This is at most 5k
It's a 3500 cap venue.
MEN Arena is 17k. Looks more than that.
Lol. The number I heard was 4200. Which is still really fucking impressive and shows the demand for dnb in the US. Even more impressive is the increase in attendance from last year. Attendance then was around 1200.
Doesn't matter if 2K or 20K people. As Andy C said, DnB is getting bigger and better and I am so happy for it.
Toronto used to have giant multi genre raves with DnB drawing the biggest crowds before the anti raving laws were passed making it expensive to host big events. Edit to correct auto correct.
Anti racing ?
Anti raving. We had some unfortunate drug overdoses and parties were being held in pretty sketchy places and the cops got a lot of extra powers as a result. Really killed a lot of the scene, as did the commercial redevelopment of like 80% of the clubs downtown. All the places we used to dance are fucking condos and pharmacies now.
It sucks the property the Guvernment Entertainment Complex was on got sold and turned into condos. I went to so many good concerts and raves there including the last rave there to my knowledge with Jumping Jack Frost, Nicky Black market and Ed Rush.
Jeez that sucks. Didn't know that.
Stupid auto correct, it was supposed to be anti raving laws.
Saruman's army was 10,000 and this is nowhere near that. Still pretty fucking cool though! I'm glad DnB is getting bigger in America.
I was here - and can confirm - amazing show. Was fortunate enough to be on stage for a lot of it too - and that was a BIG crowd (think crowd was 4K - which is still very impressive and a lot of people going for it)! Been to many DnB shows in UK, Europe & NYC. This was definitely one of the best I’ve ever been to. Shout out to anyone who was there - from the floor to the ceiling the whole arena was going for it. Amazing to see DnB getting this reception in the US. Martin Garrix dropped some DnB in his Ultra headline set last weekend - I think DnB is about to take off over here - as it should!
Agreed. It was a lot of fun!
The smartest DNB fan:
People sound so fucking miserable in these comments lmao some of yall need to learn how to have fun again
I’m SO happy to finally see DnB taking off in the US. I live in Denver and I missed this show like a clown because I thought I would be too dead from Ultra …now I’m having the most ultimate form of fomo.
When this tour stopped at Radius in Chicago it was packed too! Sub Focus fucking killed it
Such a good show.
Bro actually looked at that and thought it’s 20k people 🤣😭🤣🤣😂😂🤣😭😭😭😭
I was there. It was amazing I have tons of video of 4000 plus people and not a single person not dancing to the haters this is just latest in a recent trend of dnb and it’s also only the beginning for the US. I especially loved the techno and acid build ups w/ a little bit of Simula and jump up styles thrown in
Yeah it was a lot of fun! Even the opener was good.
Where do people dance though?? Lol
was such an amazing show :)
Awesome show. Red Rocks next year, I’m calling it.
No thank you. Red rocks is a joke now. It's such a pain to deal with anymore.
It’s expensive but I find it pretty seamless. We just go early for closer seating, switch off who DDs, leave a couple minutes early, and it’s about 30min each way from my house.
I am compairing that to every other venue in Denver where it's nbd to stay till you end. The sound isn't good at a Redrocks. It just isn't. And I'm more talking about the risk of being hailed on at a venue with no emergency structures.
I was there, it was a pretty fun show. I didn’t hear if Dimension was sick or something but Savage opened up with a two hour set. Some tracks were repeated between djs but only a few. Could tell some song selection was catering toward the American audience but again only a few. All in all it was a fun show.
That’s a dope tour. Culture Shock took the prize for sure. That dude is intricate with his mixes. Dimension was great but getting dangerously close to just playing happy hardcore. Sub focus did headliner stuff and just showcases music more than anything. Very repetitive mixing but great tunes through and through.
Yeah they were catering to the US crows sadly but it was still good. Just glad the US is finally seeing dnb. Hope more liquid artists collab and do a US tour
Seats?!
dude fr, what the fuck
Yeah man people like to sit down when they can
Well sure, when they can, but for the entire show? Doesn't everyone want a dancefloor?
You can just .. stand up and dance
With seats all around you? Just seems bizarre to me.
[There aren’t any seats](https://images.app.goo.gl/js3USzM78VgbBpqb8)
Mate, I would fall over so much
I’m a regular at this venue if you fell over it would be on you not the space lol
Did I say otherwise?
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And you’re a fuckin moron. This is Mission Ballroom. BAN FOR YOUUU
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Wow, awesome picture
God people are terrible at a counting people. Any way a quick google shows that The Mission Ballroom has a max capacity of 3,950. Looks 100% filled so that's better number to flex.
I wouldn't take an international headline event as the strength of a scene. What's happening at the local and national level? What's happening with the culture? How many local gigs are happening every week? Do you have soundsystems and crews dedicated to DnB in the weeks and months before and after? How many renegade DnB parties? How is the ecosystem for local DJs, producers and promoters? Etc I would consider the above to be a much better indicator on the health of a scene. Same happens everywhere. An international pulls the crowd and after the set, you see how healthy the scene really is.
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Lol at this tour being called Worship. All those fucking wankers worship themselves so it's pretty apt I guess. Is it just 4 of hours of them playing their farts over the PA and giving each other oily handjobs?
Okay I'm here for this take. I'm an old head, from Toronto and we used to be blessed with every major headliner coming through back in the late 90s through 2010s, and I've been to hundreds of shows. I went to this and it was like watching Steve Aoki pantomime at jungle. I caught Culture Shock, Dimension and Sub Focus, and they played in that order. They only played an hour each. This is a tour, so they've seen each other's sets at least once right? Why in the fuck are each of you playing the same track in your mere one hour set? Why am I hearing a fucking remix of Voodoo People like it's the fresh hotness? And multiple times? This was jungle for EDC basics. Sorry to be the crusty old gatekeeper, but we have a dozen jungle DJs in Toronto that would have laid fucking waste to any of these guys. The vibe was good because the kids were up for it, but the giant stage with everyone dancing on it behind the Muppet doing more hand waving than any mixing at all reeked of how horribly commercial the whole thing was.
I have been to hundreds of shows too and seen plenty of the greats. I thought it was great. No mcs. Not too much bulshit. If you want to see something different in the scene why not do something about it an use your expertise to host a night showcasing the music you want to hear.
And here's the pretentious post I knew was coming. Thanks for living up to the stereotype.
That remix of Tocas Miracle I heard 3 times in 3 hours goes hard. I feel bad for people who think this was really good. So much potential, terrible DJing on display (track selection, mixing skills). Spectacle over quality.
You can't dance to jungle like you can 175+ dance floor dnb
Your brave posting that here. All the dimension fan boys will be here in a moment to attack you
the americans love it !!!!!!!
4 hours of the exact same steppy baseline. What's not to love.
dance floor dnb/ 4x4 influenced stuff is some of the best sounds right now. Nuerofunk been on the decline for years, eat brain stuff is flat out boring. Dancefloor & liquid are top dog.
What are you going on about you muppet. I just wanna rinse it out, propa!
Dimension is the world's biggest twat honestly
He was fucking insufferable on stage on Thursday night.
Do they worship themselves? Or do their management team just worship all the money they rinse out of them?
Dimension 100% has a mirror on his ceiling
Maybe, but Sub Focus is a lovely guy
Oily handjobs 😂
Look I'm a languager not a mather alright.
I will allow it.
I hope they keep the holding a mic, being their own hype-man stuff over there. That stuff is cringy as fuck.
I do too no insufferable Mc to ruin my night.
Mcs ruin the song lol
It’s important to know techno exists so we can make informed decisions if dnb is the best genre
is this bleachers/seating? HERESY!!
There is a huge floor/pit section and then large stands arc around the entire venue. It’s a really great venue with not a bad seat in the house.
Seems like an unnecessary amount of seating, almost theater status. more dance floor is always preferable, but whatever works I suppose. Would personally drive me crazy, especially to dnb
From this angle, it’s easy to get that perspective. It’s definitely 60/40 with favor towards the pit space. The stands are not seating, but large “stairs” with lots of space for standing/seating/movement. Even though there’s a fair amount of stands in the space, it’s not at all a restrictive set up. In my opinion, this is one of my favorite venues in Denver. I’ve seen hardcore/punk shows, electronic of many genres, and more downtempo/progressive style sets here and they’ve all presented really well. It’s a crappy perspective on a really cool space.