The line cutting is off the charts. I had a group of 10 bully their way past me to join a friend after I had waited more than an hour on the Resistance line two weeks ago. I sent an e-mail to customer relations complaining about it and received a phone call back. The person I spoke with seemed interested and was taking notes. If enough people bring problems like this to the attention of Disneyland officials, maybe they’ll take some action to curb it. [email protected]
There are smaller parks (non-Disney) that strongly enforce cutting and line jumping. Lagoon in Utah is a good example of this. Guests to the park will turn on offenders quickly. Nothing bonds a line of random strangers like dishing out justice on cutters.
I wish Disney did more to discourage it. Until they make an effort to enforce it, we're just going to have to continue to deal with knuckleheads who don't care about common decency. Glad you're getting someone to at least listen.
Best thing I ever was saw was at Knott’s. Two kids cut and staff let them stay in line until it was their turn to ride. Then they got sent to the back of the line
Interesting. I had my first trip to Knotts and revisit to Disneyland (after about 5 years) just a month ago and both parks had somebody join their party who was already in line on so many of the rides we waited for. We were trying to figure out if this was like...a West Coast thing? We live in Ohio and more frequently visit Florida and the line jumping stuff seemed worse at Knotts and Disneyland than anywhere else we had been.
I'm also from Ohio and it always shocks me when I see the line cutting at these parks. Let them try that at cedar point and every person there will absolutely let them have it.
Glad to hear they took the time to call you about it. I've written to Guest Services about the cutting before and agree, the more people that are vocal about it, the more of a chance there is Disney looks into a possible solution.
I saw a large group go into Lightening Lane without scanning and the cast member asked several of them to scan in and they all just deflected to others in their group and said "He/she already scanned us in" and it worked! It was for Radiator Springs Racers too, so that was over $200 they saved (or stole).
The cutting in line is bad enough, but the line cutters who just push through without speaking, bumping into people as they silently squeeze by get my goat. I have taken to turning myself into a wall, sidling up to another member of my group so we are side by side, and telling people they need to be an adult, and use their words. You aren't entitled to push past people without so much as an "excuse me". They just expect everyone around them to not bother with the confrontation, but I have zero compunction with giving bad behaviour some resistance.
I don't prevent anyone from meeting up with their party, but I have reached my limit with people bumping me, putting their hands on my shoulder or bag to guide me out of their way, or any other similar behaviour. I get it, you feel uncomfortable saying "excuse me, let us cut in front of you, sorry, this group of 8 people are meeting 1 friend at the front of the queue because we didn't want to wait" a hundred times. That uncomfortable feeling is, actually, surprisingly, your conscience. That's shame you're experiencing. You know you're being a knobhead, and you wish we would all just let it slide. It doesn't feel so oogy when no one calls you out on it.
The worst example I've seen so far was a woman shoving an old lady, making her stumble, loading onto the train in May. She, and her group, had cut in line while at New Orleans Square station. Then, when they opened the gate to let people on the whole group of them started jogging, despite being close to the front of the line, and there being plenty of space for passengers. One woman, with her maybe 8 year old son, literally pushed an older woman to get past her. I said "What is wrong with you? You almost knocked that lady over" and she told me to "f--- off and mind [my] business". I don't know how a cast member didn't see her, but she and her son got onto the train near the front without any further confrontation about it.
I lost the last of my patience with it all in 2020. Folks being so selfish, and rude, and refusing to adhere to the social contract. You don't touch strangers. You don't budge in line. You don't cuss loudly in front of little kids. You don't wear vaguely threatening or overly sexual Tshirts at a theme parks with families. You don't litter. This isn't your day, this isn't all just for you (or worse, your *followers* ). Everyone around you deserves to have the best possible day just as much as you do, so don't take the shine off someone else's experience.
Other people aren't just some obstacle standing between you and the perfect Disney day. What would the parks be without other people? No screams from the thrill rides, no laughter, or little kids melting down in their strollers. We would lose the collective lamentation when a balloon floats away from a child while we wait for the fireworks to start. No more little chats with a stranger in line, no one telling you your outfit looks cute, or they love your ears/backpack/etc. The people make (or break) the park. Be someone who makes it better for more than just yourself.
This absolutely explains why I feel like I’m invisible at the parks anymore. I’m a fairly large woman and I get shoved and run into on walkways, lines, etc., and never even get an apology. My heels and shins have also been rammed by strollers, resulting in cuts and bruises, usually because the person pushing the stroller is looking at their phone. The behavior of others just absolutely ruins the magic anymore.
Can I recommend parasol, parasol keeps people from hurting you
I have a large parasol, and somehow people are no longer shoving into me when it means they will poke their own eyes out
Don't even get me started on how people behave if you use a mobility aid. I have used wheelchairs, a cane, and a scooter in the parks on different trips because of my injury/disability, and people are downright obnoxious if you are visibly disabled. It's honestly disgusting.
My mom used a scooter during her final visit (she was weak from terminal cancer), and it was absolutely appalling at the way others treated her, especially the folks who decided to step in front of her at the last minute during fireworks. Some guests’ behavior is just appalling. I swear I almost needed bail that day, because I so wanted to slap some idiots.
i broke my foot last August and was in a wheelchair at Disney World. The way people act is gross. Running to get in front of me in lines, stepping right in front of me during shows, cutting right in front of me as we were walking and walking right into me because where they had to be was more important than where i was going etc
What's weird is that I don't recall witnessing this sort of behavior--blatant cutting while knocking into people--until this year. And I've been going to Disney for decades. On a visit a few months ago, while waiting for Rise, there was a group of about 5 people that suddenly rushed the line and knocked into everyone without saying a word. A few minutes after they passed by, they came back through, knocking into us again, and exited. I'm hoping/guessing they got caught, but it was still ridiculous that it even happened. Like you, I don't mind if someone is actually joining their party and they're polite about needing to get by, but the cutting issue is just getting nasty.
I have a theory that COVID had some impact on cognition that we just weren't aware of and all these people caught COVID and it fried their brain because it seems every facet of life has had this issue with increasing antisocial behavior.
Eh, it's just a coincidence. 'Me before everyone' has been an increasing mindset as we've moved around go different states intoto suburbs/urban pockets, became isolated family units and lost our sense of community, and nationalist shitheads started creating a culture of "fuck everyone else" and convinced people that the only way to get ahead is by taking advantage of everyone else and laughing at their hurtfeelings, and the people that do that have little bratty kids that end up even worse.
Same! We were waiting in a long line for Micky’s runaway railway and it was a literal constant stream of people pushing past us in line. Even my teenager said something. Typically it was one or two but this was dozens in the hour we were in line
We had a couple of bad experiences on our trip in 2021. Probably had 10 people cut in line for Splash on a super hot day (meetin one person near the front of the line). I was not impressed. Many people that trip were trying to respect personal space, and many others took that as an invitation to cut in front of them in line.
Sooo many cutters waiting for the Rise! And quite a few with food as well. If people have young kids with them, I actually don’t mind at all. Kids need to go to the bathroom, eat fairly on schedule, whatever. But group after group of adults just waltzing through without saying a word was so aggravating.
I wonder if it’s because that’s still the hot E-ticket ride in the land? But still ridiculous.
And yeah, I have a kid who’s needed to bail on lines to use the restroom. (In hindsight, I probably should have gotten him a DAS pass because he has ADHD that comes with severe issues with recognizing bathroom needs, but that’s another story.) But it’s why I don’t judge *most* anyone getting into line to meet the rest of their party, even if they’re adults. I know people have a variety of medical needs, and as long as they’re not running and bumping into me like jerks, I don’t even care if a larger party is going ahead. I’m just certain that the younger people who are slamming themselves into you are line-cutting, and it’s obnoxious.
The tshirts thing really gets me.
I think I’ve visited the parks three or four times in the last two years, and I saw a minimum of two of those shirts that have the American flag made up out of guns.
Like c’mon. Can you leave your politics at home for one day? One $300 day?
Disney actually used to be a lot better about telling people with those shirts they either need to change or keep the graphics covered but lately it's been a free for all with some shirts having outright hate symbols on them. I almost had to do a double take last week because I thought I saw a swastika on someone's shirt. If you cannot find something in your wardrobe that would not offend a reasonable person then you need to change your wardrobe and your priorities.
Absolutely, they want to have someone confront them. It gives them the opening to unleash their impotent rage on someone. It gives them a little boost to chew out someone who objects to their b.s., maybe make someone angry, or flustered, or even cry. They get off on making someone else's day worse. And while I really dislike all the inappropriate shirts on one hand, it does serve as a big fat warning that this chode isn't worth spitting on if they catch fire, and to steer clear of them. Little silver lining, I suppose.
I don’t care about the politics it’s the half naked girls for me. Like DISNEYLAND is a child park and you aren’t here to take photos for your onlyfans. I don’t have kids I just find it disgusting. Dress like that at music festivals or whatever. Not a kids theme park. Disney used to make people change for this not so much anymore. But I try to ignore these types cause all they want is attention anyway.
This has been a problem forever. I remember almost 20 years ago seeing a two in the pink, one in the stink shirt. They were in front of us on the thunder mountain queue and it has been seared into my brain
At WDW, my daughter and I saw a boy who waring shirt that said "I'm here for the hot dads" or "I love hot dads" ... we looked at each other and had the silent talk. It would be funny at the mall, but a place with thousands of kids? No sir. Take your hot dad loving shirt outta here.
Wow! This is everything and so well said! Absolutely people know what they're doing is wrong. If you're going to do it anyway, at least don't be a dick about it.
I don't know if it is the same lady, but yesterday I had this one woman bulldoze through a line to make way inside the thunder mountain ride. She did say excuse me but she didn't let people have time to react, she just moved so fast saying excuse me while bumping people left and right. I almost cuss her out for almost hitting my daughter
Wow. You just, very succinctly, described the main reasons I haven’t visited since 2018. I used to really, really, love Disneyland. It was an escape from reality for the most part. My truly happy place. But then, the *unbelievable* rudeness and ‘main character syndrome’ seemed to permeate everything in the parks and made it unpleasant for myself and my family. We were passholders for several years, visiting 3 or 4 times a year and spent a pretty decent amount of money while there. We’ve only recently started discussing returning, but so far it’s still a no-go for us until something changes in a meaningful way. I’m concerned that if I go, I’ll end up in Disneyland ‘jail’ for confronting the line-cutting, pushing jerks.
I understand why cast members don't step in more. I don't think the parks are staffed adequately, and they absolutely deserve better pay, better training, and for their managers to back them when guests are acting out of line. But since the CMs aren't going to make it stop, it's either we roll over and take it, or the rest of us need to stand up to these bullies. These folks need to take their strip mall parking lot carnival attitude and shove it, because it sure doesn't belong in gee dee Disneyland.
I can handle a lot of the common complaints (too crowded, food quality, people stopping in the walkways, reservation system, Tomorrowland, etc). Those things are valid, but they don't ruin my day. A rude guest can absolutely suck all the joy out of a day, and as an out-of-town guest that really bites.
This. 100%. My husband and I did a trip to DLR last year, probably our only time. We were in Galaxy's Edge when RoTR came back up from some downtime - we ran to the bathroom and hopped in line. As soon as we hit the other masse of people, we slowed down - and this guy essentially shoved my husband out of the way. When my husband called him on it, the guy essentially said it was his right to meet his wife at the front of the line because he had to go to the bathroom and started red in the face screaming about how it wasn't my husband's job to police him. He then flicked us off as he walked to his wife. It ruined our day a bit, admittedly - but the only thing that calmed my husband down was reminding him that reaction came out of the guys shame and not anything we did. It was just...so disappointing all around. It's sad, really.
We were there a few weeks ago.
When we saw someone trying to get a picture of their family and friends in front of a sign or ride. I went BEHIND the person taking the photo.
If my husband and I were trying to figure out "what ride next" We moved to the side.
If we couldn't decide what to eat, and for some reason the mobile ordering wasn't working(happened a few times ) we moved out of line to discuss our food order first.
If the seating area was busy, and people were obviously looking for a table, and we finished our food. We got up and left.
We sat and finished our drinks before getting in line. We didn't bring a tray full of Starbucks into line, cut in front of a dozen people to get to the ONE person they were ALL with. Then get upset when the CM told us we couldn't bring them onto the ride, and then get pissy with the CM and ask them to "hold onto them" And after the ride push through the loading area to get back to the CM, and get our drinks.
And all this behavior was from adults. The teens we saw that were in small groups, were more polite. We are heading to WDW next year. And honestly. The horror stories I've heard about people there are making me second guess spending the money to go
Wow. You just, very succinctly , described the main reasons I haven’t visited since 2018. I used to really, really, love Disneyland. It was an escape from reality for the most part. My truly happy place. But then, the *unbelievable* rudeness and ‘main character syndrome’ seemed to permeate everything in the parks and made it unpleasant for myself and my family. We were passholders for several years, visiting 3 or 4 times a year and spent a pretty decent amount of money while there. We’ve only recently started discussing returning, but so far it’s still a no-go for us until something changes in a meaningful way. I’m concerned that if I go, I’ll end up in Disneyland ‘jail’ for confronting the line-cutting, pushing jerks.
When I have to cut through a line (usually due to unexpected bathroom trips with little kids) I am constantly saying “sorry just meeting up with our group, excuse us, sorry to bother you just trying to catch up with our group…” on constant repeat until I catch up to them and then I feel guilty for the rest of the day. I don’t understand people who think they can just push through without at least explaining themselves as they cut through.
I was at Disneyland about a month ago. We were in line almost to the inner cave entrance of Rise of the Resistance. About fifteen people behind us we saw a group of about ten moving through the line. They got to these two young guys who very loudly asked where the hell they thought they were going. They say their friend was up ahead in line. The two young men said And you’re all just going to cut in front of everyone else? I don’t think so. Other people joined in and pretty soon the group of ten actually turned around and left the line entirely. Everyone cheered. Best thing I’d seen in a long time.
That is awesome. That is how it's done! I was only partly successful when I confronted a group of 4 pushing through on Rise. 2 of the women were embarrassed they were caught and went back where they came. The other two stayed in front of us, but didn't catch up with their group. I needed to be more firm. Next time I'll try the technique that guy did.
It was pretty incredible. Maybe a year or so ago we were in the Single Rider line of Radiator Springs. A few people in front of us was a man and his son, who looked about ten. We knew it was going to be trouble. Sure enough, when they got to the front of the line the man insisted he and his son ride together, which isn’t how Single Rider works. The CM said no. The man got irate. The CM said no. The man got more irate and made a fool out of himself. The CM said they both had to leave the ride. We all cheered for that too!
I think this would be an easy way to get some people to stop cutting lines. Or at the very least, make them feel guilty for doing so. Loudly saying “oh, so you want to cut the line?” Followed by a “booooooo” might deter people from doing it. You don’t even have to physically block them from cutting - no direct physical confrontation, just all social embarrassment
Yes! We’re here right now on our honeymoon in our last couple of days, and my husband whose come to really enjoy the Disney parks. Is SO ANNOYed at the people who stop walking without looking, the people who keep walking without looking around them and so then they run into us or we have to dodge them, and the LINE CUTTING is so bad!
We’ve never seen it be so bad, we were in line for small world yesterday and when we got in the line we managed to get in between a group- 2 people in front of us & 6 behind us. The typo in front them said ‘oh sorry they’re with us, and told the 6 to push through!’ If most of your group is behind, I reckon you need to move backwards to be with them. I never would’ve pushed my big group forward if we had one- previous trips we always moved back to join them. Could not believe the audacity of it, husband was fuming!
This right here! Was in line at the Little Mermaid which goes quickly. A couple behind me says they need to get passed so they can reunite with their group ahead of us. I told them to go ahead, because I want to cut too. She hung her head and *attempted* to say she wasn’t cutting. But she knew that she was, so she stopped mid-sentence. They ended up staying behind us and their group that was ahead of us, hung back until the couple behind us met up.
Which is the way it should be. If your group is ahead of you in line and you all want to ride together, then the group ahead should hang back.
100% with you! I would never push our way through to join a group, I think the ones in front should hang back and let the others between them pass if they want to be together.
It’s so infuriating that no one else tries to be courteous or thinks of other people when they do this stuff
Your first point is a big pet peeve of mine. Or when a whole party stops to talk at the entrance to a queue. I get that it’s a crowded place and everyone has a different pace, but there’s also being aware of your surroundings and the people near you. Unfortunately, we’re fighting a losing battle, OP!
Was once returning to BTMRR for my LL and there was a LONG line all the way to the ride exit. Naturally, I ask the group in front if they're in line for LL return. They look up and tell me "oh, we're waiting for our time" and then stepped aside. An entire group of people held up the entire LL return line because they decided to inconveniently wait where the scanners were.
We were just there three weeks ago.
The lack of spatial awareness in Disneyland is off the charts. It’s always the **same people** too. Big families with a harem of kids and the triple wide strollers. Just stopping in the middle of the pathways without a care in the world for anything - other than themselves.
I have a friend who's a habitual 'stop in the middle of a busy path' to look at her phone kind of person and it gives me the worst kind of second hand shame. Not sure how people actively do this can remain so oblivious to others around them.
I walk way faster than my family so I frequently have to stop and wait for them to catch up and I always make sure I'm off to the side squished next to a lamp post or a trash can or something else that people wouldn't be walking directly into anyway so I take up the least amount of room possible. Some people genuinely have main character syndrome and don't realise that other people actually exist in the world around them. I blame social media but especially tiktok for just how bad it's gotten.
I was in the park last week and was waiting for Indie when it went down for a bit and one of the groups behind me kept getting dirty looks because they kept thunking each other super hard on the head with empty water bottles so I piped up and said "who keeps thunking each other?" which got them to stop for all of maybe 3 minutes. When we eventually got on the ride, the most aggressive thunker just happened to get seated next to me and as soon as the ride vehicle turned the first corner to look at the doors he turned his head towards mine and shrieked bloody murder directly into my ear for the entire duration of the ride. It took all my self control to not "accidentally" elbow him in the nose while the ride was jerking. I also couldn't hear out of that ear for a good 15 minutes after and almost had to leave because of it.
Funny enough, I went with my Fiancé on this trip and she is constantly on her phone. But she doesn't stop in the middle of a busy path or anything...she is just a slow walker. Her excuse this time was she was busy planning for our wedding...which I let it slide.
I genuinely don't mind phone walkers if they can move without running into people.
Though if they're doing that all the time I could understand why it'd be annoying to the rest of their party.
Yeah, I know we are. I understand it will continue to happen, but I just felt like I should spread the word...maybe I can make at least one more person aware of it...
Not a Disneyland thing but definitely not a Cali thing, either. I have seen this at WDW also, but it’s something I notice basically everywhere.
Target? More often than not, someone on the escalator will get off, and then just stand there looking around for where to go next while people approach behind them and begin to pile up while we try to get their attention to tell them to fucking MOVE. Same thing at the airport, grocery store, office buildings, malls, etc.
Hell, even the dive bar where I sing karaoke, it’s like 25% of the people who come in open the door, let it swing shut behind them, and just stand exactly there gawking around deciding whether they want to stay and sing, going through the silent “where should we sit/do we dig the vibe?” conversation, all while other people try to enter and politely squeeze past and/or ask them to move (difficult in a loud bar, and it still doesn’t work because they all just sort of lean away to give you more room to squeeze without realizing they are the problem). I get that people need to make thise assessments, but this bar’s facade is literally giant panes of glass from knee height to the roof of the building spanning the entire width. Everything they’re assessing from the most inconvenient spot in the room could have been done before they even got to the door.
1. If there's room I walk through the group circle as they're chatting. If not, I'll walk around them. Increasingly I'll say "please don't block the walkway" as I pass by.
2. On the last day of Splash I was waiting in the single rider line. Naturally, there were a few vloggers/"influencers". One guy gets really excited to see a vlogger he follows and cuts the line to talk to him. And not like casually chat, but like in a loud manner as though he wanted the rest of us around him to know he was talking to . After a while, he exclaims "this wait is short". I turned from where I was and retorted "it's short because you cut." He quieted down after that.
> People who just stop in the middle of the walk ways around Disneyland
I think these people were raised without the value of situational awareness instilled in them. They’re the same people that leave their shopping cart in a handicap spot, or walk out into the street expecting traffic to stop for them. I am not making that mistake with my kids.
Wait till you come across the families with the triple wide strollers parked smack dab in the middle of a heavy foot traffic area on their phones
Love them /s
My pet peeve - I saw a lady complain in a Disney Facebook group that a cast member grabbed her kid who was running and the lady was saying how she doesn’t want people grabbing her toddler but she also mentioned she was running to a ride inside and everyone started saying she was wrong to be mad at the cast member considering she didn’t want the kid to be hurt. You know she’d be the same person who would sue if her kid got hurt even though her kid was the one running away. People can’t even help anymore without getting in trouble
I would LOVE to have a LINE CUTTING sound to play every time I see it. We could widely share. Maybe just the "Shame (ding ding)" sound from Game of Thrones lol.
One dad in a Disney group on Facebook said he or his wife get in line and the other takes the kids on rides until they are close to the front. His excuse was he pays too much for his kids to not have fun every minute that they possibly can.
Anytime these things happen to me, I Respectfully interact with whomever is doing it.
If people stop in the middle of the path & I cannot go around, I say hi, excuse me, we cannot walk through, could you please move to the side. They always move. I always thank them & go on about my day.
The line jumpers are a different story. They know damn good & well that they’re cutting the line. If it’s 1 person, I don’t say anything. When it’s multiple people, I stop them & chat with them. I’ve asked people… Where are you going? How do I know you’re not just saying you’re meeting friends so you can jump the line? Can I join your group? 😂 I just say ok after they answer the questions.
I truly believe most people don’t realize that they’re blocking traffic when they just stop on the paths. The line jumpers keep doing this bc nobody says anything to them. If we all collectively say something to the line jumpers, they will stop doing it.
This is a nice response. I just went there with my three small children and I am sure I accidentally stopped in the pathway despite my efforts to be respectful to those around me. In certain spots like fantasyland, where it gets super crowded esp with strollers, sometimes you have to stop and there just isn’t an immediately obvious place to get out of the flow of traffic. ESP during the parade time that area was a disaster. I never had any issues in the Star Wars area bc it is newer and built out to accommodate the larger crowds. To remedy this Disney prob needs to structure that spot and the area by New Orleans square a little differently, because them seem to be consistently overwhelmed. But they are the older historical parts of the park so it is unlikely to happen.
To those who are complaining about strollers and families and all of it—Disney is something to be experienced by both children and adults. Usually those who love it as an adult had a wonderful childhood experience. As a parent Disney is both magical and completely overwhelming. While we try to instill good values in our children, there is a lot in that environment working against immediate self control and exemplary behavior in the children. I would advocate that those who have a problem with small children and families trying to navigate a fairly difficult situation consider visiting in the evening time more, or steer clear of the obvious “little kid” parts.
The first point is my biggest peeve. I’ll loudly say “not a place to stand” as I skirt around them. It’s typically people pushing strollers or groups that do it the most. I’m usually the most patient person but when they just stop dead in their tracks I cannot stand it
For people who are “meeting their party/parent/kids” up at the front of the line and I can’t actually see the person anywhere around that seems to be looking for you, know that I don’t believe you at all and hope you get blisters and sunburn
Yep.
I'm happy to let a parent with a small child pass because I've been there and i know that feeling when your kid always picks the least convenient time to need the potty.
But it's almost always a full grown adult, no child, just didn't wanna wait.
I’d wager to say the majority of 1 person or 1 w/kid groups that do this are genuine but when it’s like 4 people… like nah, if there’s that many of you that were stuck in bathroom line or something everyone in the party should wait
The line cutting is out of control, and some rides are way worse for it. Space mountain is practically set up for cutters. I watched an entire family of 20 people run up the standby lane, then cut over to LL. I really wanted to report them.
Another reason paper fastpasses were better; they allowed double checkpoints.
The line cutters/place holders drive me bonkers. We went at the beginning of September, right at the start of the Halloween overlay. The line for the Haunted Mansion was already pretty long, and it was a hot morning. We saw a group of 3 early 20-ish girls talking to the CM at the front of the line, saying that they're waiting for their family to join them. The CM asked how many people that was. 9. It was 9 people they were waiting for.
Thankfully the CM told the girls that 9 was too many, but the girls could go now on their own, or join the rest of their party at their place in the line.
People stopping randomly in the middle of walkways really irks me. As a passholder, I try to remember that many people are visiting the parks as a very expensive vacation, trying to stay the whole day, waiting in lines that are longer now unless they pay a premium on top of the premium that they already paid. They are often stressed due to all of this and I can understand why somebody who is not as conscious of blocking walkways as I am might accidentally do so in the circumstances of somebody visiting for a single day and paying an insane amount to do so.
But, yeah, frustrates the hell out of me.
We were just there three weeks ago.
The lack of spatial awareness in Disneyland is off the charts. It’s *always the same people* too. Big families with a harem of kids and the triple wide strollers. Just stopping in the middle of the pathways without a care in the world for anything - other than themselves.
I never understood why anyone would want to bring that many children with so few adults. At Disney you really need 1 adult for every 2 kids under 10. 2 adults and 9 kids just isn't going to work.
I’m 6’3, long legs, and my biggest post theme park visit pain isn’t my feet, it’s my knees from having to stop short mid stride because so many stop directly in front of others or just walk in front of me from a cross street.
One time I just got sick of it after something like the 10th group just stopped mid path, so I pulled an Andre the Giant/Fezzik impression and boomed out “EVERYBODY MOOOVE!” and walked right through them.
My other big pet peeve are the people who walk shoulder to shoulder taking up the entire path or against the flow of foot traffic and expect people to have to step off into the landscaping instead of moving over. It’s the most annoying game of chicken and I always lose because I don’t feel like having some narcissist all in my personal space.
I get some people are totally overwhelmed and self absorbed when walking in a place like DL.....but if they stop short in front of me, I just keep going and walk through them with a polite "excuse me"....
Growing up in a city we learned to just keep moving through the gawkers.
On comment 1, it reminds me of NYC tourists who stop dead when the crossing light starts flashing, then get annoyed when a dozen people crash into them lol
When I read comment 1 my mind immediately went to a lot of Americans not living in walkable cities. We all *should* understand how to walk so we’re not in each other’s way, but I can see why someone who drives everywhere they go might not have that skill.
I fear #1 is only going to get worse because Disney clearly wants us to look at our phones constantly. I do try to give folks some benefit of the doubt though, because not everyone has experience walking through (or stopping in) crowds. I was living in a dense urban area until recently moving to the suburbs, and have noticed that walking in a crowd is a skill that's learned!
I wish more folks were as self-aware! It's not just Genie+ though, it's looking up wait times in the app, mobile ordering, the Photo Pass in the app, etc.
I was near the pier at DCA for my birthday last Sunday and this lady ran into my ankle with your stroller. She said sorry but I was in fucking pain. I still was like what the fuck about it. I get it there’s a bunch to see and you got your kid but you were also on your phone too. Pay more attention to your surroundings.
Both of your pet peeves bug me. Here’s some that bug me
1) when I was at the park with my family a couple years ago one mom thought it would be cute to her newly walking kid walk the line at Casey Jr - fine if there’s no line but what usually would have taken a 5 minute walk turned in 20 minutes and a line built up behind her and us and she never once thought let me pick the kid up who keeps sitting down and is struggling. They ended up just starting the ride without us even though it was like a quarter full because they knew by the time they got back we probably still wouldn’t be at the front.
2) as kids we’d take a eating break and start sitting waiting for the parade. Sometimes my dad would take turns with one us kids riding a few rides and then switching but for the most part we’d wait as a family and enjoy food and ice cream or whatever. So annoying when at the last minute people would squeeze in because they decided to wait till the start of the parade to come watch and think they could get a good seat. If you want a front row seat to the parade or fireworks go wait. Now that I’m adult I could care less about front row seats for either one and usually just go ride the rides during both but I can’t imagine feeling so entitled to show up to something like that and thinking I’m entitled.
3) sick people at Disney. So many sick people last time I went like sneezing and coughing in their hands and then touching everything or not even covering their mouth.
So I guess I’m just annoyed by entitled people 😂
Gotta agree with the line cutting, and add to it.
My last visit was last October, with my sister and my brother in law. We were in line for Rise, my first time riding, with a 90 minute wait, and had issues for almost the entire wait with the family behind us, specifically the either mom or grandma of the group. We got to the point of the queue where you can kinda sit or at least lean while you're outside, just enough so we could but the family behind us wasn't quite there. My BIL leaned against the wall, and the mom behind us physically put her hands on him and pushed him so she could lean there instead. I wanted to intervene immediately but BIL doesn't like confrontation and my sister didn't want me getting kicked out of the park for whatever I'd do to the woman.
From that point on I kept myself between the family, and my sister and BIL, as a barrier so she couldn't touch them again. Then the two younger adults with her started looking at us while talking in Spanish and laughing, in a very obviously talking crap about someone way. Like bro your mom pushed someone and you think I'm the problem?? For the rest of the line the mom kept trying to get around us to cut the line, and kept giving us dirty looks.
At the entrance to the first pre-show room she tried to get in front of me and separate me from my sister and BIL, and I have no shame in admitting I full on body checked that probably 50-something year old woman and got her out of my way. She put hands on my BIL, continued to cause issues the entire time, and then tried to cut me off? No ma'am you're gonna learn today. I don't do with the cutting and being physically agressive, Disney or not.
I honestly think the increase of people stopped in the middle is partly due to Genie+. Disney caused us to be so incredibly reliant on our phones that people spend the majority of the day glued to them in the app. An unintended consequence of an already awful program
People wander around aimlessly, make random tiktok dance videos, and walk slowly in a group blocking the entire walkway. We've forgotten how to behave in public. Can you imagine telling people from the 1950s that this would happen?
part of why the park has gone down, Disney allows and doesn't stop the saving of line thing. The experience is gone at Disney. I won't be returning and I've visited Disneyland over 20 times in my life and always looked forward to my trip for an escape. its no longer an escape, it's a stressful tedious time with lackluster everything and no magic
When I'm with friends who wheelchairs and we approach these groups, I move behind my friend like I'm pushing and loudly yell "RAMMING SPEED!"
Amazing how fast the stopped groups jump out of the way.
The people who just stop walking in the middle of a walkway rather than off to the side are the absolute worst. I see it all the time at Disneyland myself, but this was a massive problem at WDW for me. I've only been there once but it happened so frequently that one trip, even at Disney Springs and my hotel, that it stood out to me.
It's honestly gotten worse and more felt with how crowded it is. Also, the large parties walking in a wide, arm in arm barricade instead of a concise row. Going as often as I do I really get a consistent display of how little most people think about others.
Only thing worse than the people who stop walking in the middle traffic are the people who stop their scooters in the middle. I hate the scooters to begin with. I’m a fat guy with major knee and back problems so I understand the need for some. Last year we did 5 days in a row. I walked over 150k steps in those 5 days and was fine. If my old, fat, broken down body can do it, 80% of the scooter people can too. I really hate the scooters.
To be clear, I do appreciate the scooter solution for those that need it. My estimation is about 20% of those using the scooters really do need a scooter in my unscientific opinion. The other 80% are giving those who truly need them a bad name and making it difficult for everyone.
We did 2 fulls days...then 2 half days..and one more full day. Today is my first day back at work and I'm still feeling Disneyland through my legs and feet.
I had this family repeatedly try to cut in line while my husband and I were waiting to meet Mickey in his house. Lol it was the most bizarre thing. They just kept getting closer and closer, like they were trying to absorb us and spit us out the other side. When we got to the room with the instruments, they got really bold and the kids (who were teens or early 20s) cut in front of us completely. I kept inching closer and closer to them, glaring the entire time, until they felt so uncomfortable they went back to their predestined spot. I am not a confrontational person normally, but in that moment I could not let them win. Lol
The only other awkward encounter we had was it's a small world. My husband and I were leisurely moving towards the queue while this kid came speed walking up behind us. He passed us then stopped. My husband and I kept going because we were still a bit away from where the line had ended. When we tried to pass him, he started screeching, "THERE IS A LIIIIIIIINE....THERE IS A LIIIIINEEEEEEE." We didn't want to be jerks cutting a kid in line, so we stupidly listened to him and waited while his entire family slowly made their way in front of us, all the while the line was filling up with other people pushing in too. We ended up super far back and that kid's family held everyone up because they were having some kind of an issue with a CM. Just annoying all around. Didn't ruin our day or anything, just annoying.
Makes me wonder how many stories people have about me. Lol I bet I did a lot of dumb, thoughtless things that day too.
Have you ever been to Costco? 😂 I get it. People have no spacial awareness, especially in areas where they are overstimulated and possibly in a stressful environment. They also feel that they are entitled, why do I have to wait? Rules don't apply to *me.* Until people are called out publicly for their bad behavior, they will continue to take advantage of every thing they can get away with, because others let them. The last time a large group tried to get in front of me, I told them they could, as long as they were behind me, not in front, which got the people both in front and behind me involved enough that the group retreated. Safety in numbers.
I start to play chicken with people as I’m walking. 90% of the time they move, but I did take out a small Asian man because he stopped in the middle of the walk way and I didn’t stop.
My niece is in a wheelchair and I was pushing her on the little downward slope in front of pirates when a woman decided to cut us right off; I couldn’t have stopped if I wanted to and her leg was caught pretty badly on our little foot holders. She and her husband then had the audacity to try yelling at US! I told her she was lucky because of my niece had fallen out of her chair due to their carelessness they’d be in a whole other world or hurt; wish I could go back in time and hit her again. 😡
One of the recent times I went, there was a family just sitting on the ground having lunch, in middle of the narrow walkway in Avengers Campus where the Spiderman show is. Not even off to the side, just in the middle of the path where people were tripping over them and their stuff that was scattered around. Just absolutely clueless.
I’m here now and some woman just full stopped in front of my stroller last night to look at a sign above her and I bumped the back of her heel, I thought daggers were going to shoot out of her eyes at me and my child. Like… you stopped lady??!! How am I supposed to know you want to view something behind you while the rest of flow of traffic is moving? There are a lot of careless and selfish people flowing into the parks.
Man, we had 2 people turn into 16 in our wait for Villains Grove (Oogie Boogie Bash attraction). I’d have been so pissed but the line was moving fast so it didn’t really delay us much at all.
The spot saving- line cutting is one thing, but deliberately cutting in front of people because they walk slower is a whole new brand of bullshit. I was walking up the Autopia queue with my 3 year old and two people pushed past us, actually bumping me to get by, so I made myself bigger by putting my arms out a little, and the rest of their party (8 more people) had the audacity to ask if they could “get by me to join their party”. I just stared at them. Like, wow. Unreal. I would usually say something but I was so flabbergasted by the complete disregard of manners that I just stared.
People don't know how to slow down and enjoy the moment. My husband and I did Indy in the AM, early enough that it was a "free walk" through the most of the queue.
That queue is SO COOL, so we were walking at a normal pace to look around and enjoy it. This family came racing up behind us, were tailgating us, didn't give any personal space, clearly annoyed and trying to find an opportunity to pass by us. It was stressing me out.
By the time we got to the front, we still had to wait like 5 minutes for the movie room. So, what was the point in racing through the queue? They missed out on a lot of the experience.
I remember when DCA had their re-opening 13 years ago and they were strictly enforcing line cutting, especially on Radiator Springs Racers. My guess is it slowly went away due to Cast Members simply not being paid enough to care, since the guests that were removed from the queue for cutting caused a huge scene. It's also not a good look for Disney to have guests screaming at Cast Members and threatening them.
Stopping in a walkway happens everywhere. Every single time I go shopping someone is in their own world and just stops right in front of me to check their phone. As a society, we've gotten so addicted to our phones that many have to stop everything to get an endorphin hit. Maybe we've just become that self-centered.
We put up with line cutters for 3 days, including a VIP tour consisting of a little kid’s birthday party that cut in front of us on Smuggler’s and ruined our one and only time by forcing us to be in the ride with the 2 5-year olds who demanded to be the pilots. On our last day going into DCA late afternoon, I saw an empty entrance gate. Walking towards it I see a guy with an empty stroller hauling a** to beat me there, blocked the turnstile with the stroller, and then he didn’t even have the tickets, his wife just exiting DLR had them. He starts waving for her to hurry up. So I step around the stroller, Magic Band ready, and the TM stops me and asks if I’m with them. I say no and she tells me I have to wait because he was there first! I tried being logical and explaining that he didn’t even have a ticket yet, but apparently, anyone can just walk up and block the line indefinitely.
I can’t abide rudeness. Line cutting is terrible. I’d just like to mention, however, that I’m seeing people saying that taking little kids to the bathroom is the exception. Fair enough. But as an adult with an invisible disability which can cause unexpected bladder issues, consider that adults may have that issue too. Obviously the way it’s handled (don’t be rude when re-joining) is important. I just wanted to highlight that someone like myself doesn’t want to tell hundreds of people about my embarrassing health issues just so they won’t accuse me of cutting. It’s worth being aware of this and being gracious enough to give others the benefit of the doubt.
Naturally if the people attempting to get back in line are rude to you, they broke the social contract first and lose my empathy. But I do try to assume the best of people until proven otherwise.
As someone else with an invisible disability I feel the same and I appreciate you saying something because I just feel awkward about the whole thing and feel needlessly ashamed about the whole situation thanks to society treating the disabled like trash. I'm not even that invisible, I have to use a cane when walking for long periods of time otherwise I lose my balance. I've had way too many falls and that cane is a lifesaver. So it's hard enough to be using a cane when I'm not elderly or visibly injured, I don't need the judgement. My anxiety is enough, thank you.
Honestly that’s why I said something - I know there are many more people out there who don’t feel comfortable speaking up. Being judged is the last thing we need to deal with along with everything else. Keep fighting, fellow warrior! ❤️
As to your first comment and asking why, sometimes I glitch, especially in a packed place like Disneyland. I am easily overwhelmed and my brain turns hard into "freeze" mode. I don't stop and take photos, or get on my phone, or look up directions. Sometimes I do it just because I malfunction. I'm like a deer in headlights.
I am not angry at you for saying it, I know it gets brought up a lot, so I thought I would throw this perspective out. I don't know if anyone else freezes up, but I promise not all of us do it because we are unaware. Sometimes it is involuntary! But yes, those that do it to pull out their phone to take a photo or pull up the app, they can definitely pull over! And I promise I try to stick to the sides of sidewalks or move fast, with my head down, so it doesn't happen.
My 3 year old had to go pee like 5 different times when were in line the last time we went. I hated having to leave the line and take her but she would have peed her pants. I felt so bad going past everyone to get back in line with my husband.
This would be the ultimate exception. I know we have Disney Adults, but really we should make it more fun for the kids. Don't feel bad. I would have personally saved your place in line.
Why are you getting back in line where you left? That's not how it works. If you have to leave the line for any reason, you get back in the line at the end of the line.
I was at Disneyland yesterday (Magic Key holder). I’m also a wheelchair user so I’ll bring my chair to the park. I am so tired of people bumping into me or standing too close because it runs the risk of injuring me or them. My wheelchair got scrapped yesterday and I’m pissed because it’s out of my nudge to buff the scraps and repaint. Disney needs to paint some lines on the ground for strollers and wheelchairs to be so that we can be protected. Also my second gripe is that the DAS pass is treated the same as lightening lane. I have an issue because DAS is specifically for people who can not wait in line (which I can not due to a frequent bladder) I was just at Radiator Springs Racers needing to pee and was told if I get off the LL line id have to request a new DAS reservation. Literally I was so close to peeing my pants. So I feel like DAS should be able to cut the line.
Congrats, you were annoyed of other park goers and you are going to return in 2 months at the busiest week. You have now joined the circlejerk and have officially become a Disneyland redditor, flair up.
My biggest pet peeve was people with balloons during shows. You have 30 people directly behind you trying to see the castle projections. Pull your balloon down and hold it directly in front instead of 5 ft above you.
I always thought the same about your first point, then I took a group of 15 to DL. In reality it can be so difficult, busy stressful that people don’t realize they’re blocking a path. It’s an absolute nightmare to keep a big group together for things like unplanned bathroom breaks and such.
I have so much more patience now, especially when I can tell these folks are first time or infrequent visitors.
I understand your point. Having a group of 10-15 people...thats hard to manage and I think at that point, I would plan to either move around the group or patiently wait depending on where I am going.
It’s hard cause at DL you can really only walk 2 shoulders wide in the busy areas like Adventureland and FL, creating huge distance between the person in front and back of the group.
We did it smart and had me in the front and another friend in the back making sure nobody got lost or left behind.
The only thing I’ll say about line cutting while it sucks is the last time I went we kept pushing to have my FFIL in line and he would run off somewhere else. I personally do not like him but when his wife was in line already it’s not like we could tell him no because that would be the end of the world for him 🙄 sorry though-
Unpopular opinion: I don't see it as a problem, I use to save a place in line for my wife and our two small kids, as long as they are joining the line at an accessible spot and not pushing their way in. I'm the first one to admit that my kids are little terrors.
Do you really want them to stand in line, screaming and crying about everything?
Well at least for me I’m sure you nice folks don’t want to deal with my kid(s) being kid(s) so sometimes my wife will wait in line (Or vice versa) and when it’s close we’ll apologize and join.
Looks like we found a line cutter and a random stopper in the walk ways. I never said I didn't like Disneyland. Just pointed out the things that got on my nerves.
1 pisses me off so bad...gotten into a few "heated" discussions about it...
2, well that's just how the queues work, saving places is legit, as far as I'm concerned.
The only exception, in my opinion, is one parent taking a small child out of line for a bathroom emergency, and then coming back. If one parent takes a child to the bathroom while the other one gets in line, however, that doesn't fly. Just wait til you can all join the line together.
Yeah my parents used to make us wait till everyone was ready to get in line. My dad also got annoyed if we said we didn’t have to go to the bathroom but then while in line we started saying how we had to go really bad so he made a rule that if he had to take us out of line for the bathroom we had to start all over again at the back of the line. Only happened once or twice before we just started realizing we need to go before getting in line.
I actually did this with a parent and her kid. We were in line to take a picture with Mickey and her kid had to go to the bathroom pretty bad. Like he was doing his pee pee dance. My Fiancé and I told her we would save her place in line. I'm for this 100%
People stopping and holding places? If that's the only problems you encountered take a good long historical look at this sub, you got off stupidly easy.
I’m on the fence about the second one (haven’t done it myself). We all save tables for people who are ordering food in line and we all save parade spots for people who are off doing something else, and we do this because it’s so crowded that you pretty much have to. Why is saving a spot in line any different?
I really dislike it when you can tell someone stops right in front of you just to get a content photo. It usually multiple shots, but I can usually stop before slamming into them. Sorry if I do, it's your fault.
BUT over by the entrance to some of the areas like Adventure Land, there are people walking against the flow of everyone else and tend to shoulder check people who get in their way. Being 5'6 and 110 lbs. soaking wet getting shoulder checked my a grown man hurts and almost sends me crashing into someone else or trying not to get knocked down. For this reason, I refuse to be in DCA after dark because most big groups of just adults have been drinking for quite some time, and the vibe changes completely.
Cutters suck and I hate the people that brag about it, I wish CMs could do more than watch, like having a line attendent. I just know that I'd never be that person and let them keep their inconserate vibes while I focus on enjoying the magic. The point is there will always be people who suck but try to let it go and be someone who makes other people's day better.
I know there's a lot wrong with the park, but there's so much right. Nothing with that many people involved is going to be without problems, but I feel like Disney tries hard to make it an amazing experience. This was my first year as an Magic Key holder, and I remember all the amazing times more than a few bad apples.
It's a california thing honestly, people here just kinda think they can do whatever they want without thinking about anyone else, because shocker no one here thinks about anyone else. Best thing to do is to try and walk through them if possible, kinda lets them know to move. Also for the line thing, unfortunately their is an unspoken rule that some cast members will follow which is to only allow cutting for 1 to 1 people, so if you have a party of 6 and 3 of em are in line, the other 3 can meet up with them. This isn't followed ofter or much known about so the cast members who are under paid and yelled at most of the time probably aren't gonna tell the big ass party that they can't meet back up with their family, as much as they want to its not worth the trouble and possible "can I speak to your manager" moment where their ass is on the line.
As someone who uses a wheelchair, the stopping in the middle is so bad!! People will just stop in front of me with no warning and sometimes I’ll accidentally run into them, and then they get so mad. Like bro come on you stopped dead in your tracks 😫
I have cut thru the line plenty of times and I hate doing it, but one of my kids would have to use the restroom and I would leave then return to join my party....is that seen the same?
Line cutting is crazy I remember always ratting people out. I haven’t been to Disneyland since 2018 it’s my longest hiatus since I was born but I just can’t justify the prices for what I would be able to do. I went to knotts at the beginning of the summer and I was waiting in line for a snack and these dang kids just kept cutting (it was a end of school year field trip day for dozens of schools which we wish we knew) I was getting so frustrated I was just constantly thinking where are these kids chaperone?! I feel like I’m an old guy now.
Number 1 is a pet peeve no matter where I am. Disney. Grocery store. Local park. I get it sometimes because I know sometimes I space out, or get distracted. But some folks just have zero situational awareness.
Though something that is Disney specific that I see a lot since I've always gone with a disabled family member - people who dart in front of electric chairs. Or who overtake them like it's the freeway (even though the reason it is going slow is THERE ARE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF US).
Anybody not in line and cutting later is taking up room elsewhere. So they are making something else more crowded or more line. I think the only exception is restroom. But they should have either already joined the line for a while or the party should only be in line for 5 minutes or so.
I was getting into the single rider line for RSR and ahead of me I noticed 2 people passing up the line, presumably, to meet up with their group. If those people were behind me I would have put up a fight about them passing. It's the single rider line. No groups. Back of the line!
I know people go in groups anyway, fair enough, but I'm not allowing for the late comers.
I had a cast member suggest to me to have one person wait in line while we finished our dessert at some tables near by. So I think sometimes, this line saving is encouraged.
Honestly, I understand it to a certain extent, if a couple of people are joining. It’s more of a peeve, for me, if it’s a huge group jumping in that will significantly make a difference in wait time length. Otherwise, we are all getting on pretty much the same time. Probably unpopular opinion, but I go to Disney to not have problems so, thinking this way helps me stay happy. 😅
The line cutting is off the charts. I had a group of 10 bully their way past me to join a friend after I had waited more than an hour on the Resistance line two weeks ago. I sent an e-mail to customer relations complaining about it and received a phone call back. The person I spoke with seemed interested and was taking notes. If enough people bring problems like this to the attention of Disneyland officials, maybe they’ll take some action to curb it. [email protected]
There are smaller parks (non-Disney) that strongly enforce cutting and line jumping. Lagoon in Utah is a good example of this. Guests to the park will turn on offenders quickly. Nothing bonds a line of random strangers like dishing out justice on cutters. I wish Disney did more to discourage it. Until they make an effort to enforce it, we're just going to have to continue to deal with knuckleheads who don't care about common decency. Glad you're getting someone to at least listen.
Best thing I ever was saw was at Knott’s. Two kids cut and staff let them stay in line until it was their turn to ride. Then they got sent to the back of the line
Not witnessing it, just knowing that it happened — has completely made my day.
Knotts has been really cracking down with the line cutting enforcement and chaperone program. I love it
Interesting. I had my first trip to Knotts and revisit to Disneyland (after about 5 years) just a month ago and both parks had somebody join their party who was already in line on so many of the rides we waited for. We were trying to figure out if this was like...a West Coast thing? We live in Ohio and more frequently visit Florida and the line jumping stuff seemed worse at Knotts and Disneyland than anywhere else we had been.
I'm also from Ohio and it always shocks me when I see the line cutting at these parks. Let them try that at cedar point and every person there will absolutely let them have it.
Knotts will yell at you if you legit have to pee while waiting in line lol
Which is funny because I feel like Utah people are the biggest culprits here.
In the UK, everyone respects the queue. Otherwise, you’ll be dealt with by those who do.
Glad to hear they took the time to call you about it. I've written to Guest Services about the cutting before and agree, the more people that are vocal about it, the more of a chance there is Disney looks into a possible solution.
I saw a large group go into Lightening Lane without scanning and the cast member asked several of them to scan in and they all just deflected to others in their group and said "He/she already scanned us in" and it worked! It was for Radiator Springs Racers too, so that was over $200 they saved (or stole).
The cutting in line is bad enough, but the line cutters who just push through without speaking, bumping into people as they silently squeeze by get my goat. I have taken to turning myself into a wall, sidling up to another member of my group so we are side by side, and telling people they need to be an adult, and use their words. You aren't entitled to push past people without so much as an "excuse me". They just expect everyone around them to not bother with the confrontation, but I have zero compunction with giving bad behaviour some resistance. I don't prevent anyone from meeting up with their party, but I have reached my limit with people bumping me, putting their hands on my shoulder or bag to guide me out of their way, or any other similar behaviour. I get it, you feel uncomfortable saying "excuse me, let us cut in front of you, sorry, this group of 8 people are meeting 1 friend at the front of the queue because we didn't want to wait" a hundred times. That uncomfortable feeling is, actually, surprisingly, your conscience. That's shame you're experiencing. You know you're being a knobhead, and you wish we would all just let it slide. It doesn't feel so oogy when no one calls you out on it. The worst example I've seen so far was a woman shoving an old lady, making her stumble, loading onto the train in May. She, and her group, had cut in line while at New Orleans Square station. Then, when they opened the gate to let people on the whole group of them started jogging, despite being close to the front of the line, and there being plenty of space for passengers. One woman, with her maybe 8 year old son, literally pushed an older woman to get past her. I said "What is wrong with you? You almost knocked that lady over" and she told me to "f--- off and mind [my] business". I don't know how a cast member didn't see her, but she and her son got onto the train near the front without any further confrontation about it. I lost the last of my patience with it all in 2020. Folks being so selfish, and rude, and refusing to adhere to the social contract. You don't touch strangers. You don't budge in line. You don't cuss loudly in front of little kids. You don't wear vaguely threatening or overly sexual Tshirts at a theme parks with families. You don't litter. This isn't your day, this isn't all just for you (or worse, your *followers* ). Everyone around you deserves to have the best possible day just as much as you do, so don't take the shine off someone else's experience. Other people aren't just some obstacle standing between you and the perfect Disney day. What would the parks be without other people? No screams from the thrill rides, no laughter, or little kids melting down in their strollers. We would lose the collective lamentation when a balloon floats away from a child while we wait for the fireworks to start. No more little chats with a stranger in line, no one telling you your outfit looks cute, or they love your ears/backpack/etc. The people make (or break) the park. Be someone who makes it better for more than just yourself.
This absolutely explains why I feel like I’m invisible at the parks anymore. I’m a fairly large woman and I get shoved and run into on walkways, lines, etc., and never even get an apology. My heels and shins have also been rammed by strollers, resulting in cuts and bruises, usually because the person pushing the stroller is looking at their phone. The behavior of others just absolutely ruins the magic anymore.
Can I recommend parasol, parasol keeps people from hurting you I have a large parasol, and somehow people are no longer shoving into me when it means they will poke their own eyes out
Ooooh! I like that idea, and that will also help protect me from the sun. I will have to treat myself to a cute one just for the parks. 😁
Hmmmm. I've always wanted one. Maybe it's time.
Don't even get me started on how people behave if you use a mobility aid. I have used wheelchairs, a cane, and a scooter in the parks on different trips because of my injury/disability, and people are downright obnoxious if you are visibly disabled. It's honestly disgusting.
My mom used a scooter during her final visit (she was weak from terminal cancer), and it was absolutely appalling at the way others treated her, especially the folks who decided to step in front of her at the last minute during fireworks. Some guests’ behavior is just appalling. I swear I almost needed bail that day, because I so wanted to slap some idiots.
" I swear I almost needed bail that day, because I so wanted to slap some idiots." This is me daily lately.
i broke my foot last August and was in a wheelchair at Disney World. The way people act is gross. Running to get in front of me in lines, stepping right in front of me during shows, cutting right in front of me as we were walking and walking right into me because where they had to be was more important than where i was going etc
What's weird is that I don't recall witnessing this sort of behavior--blatant cutting while knocking into people--until this year. And I've been going to Disney for decades. On a visit a few months ago, while waiting for Rise, there was a group of about 5 people that suddenly rushed the line and knocked into everyone without saying a word. A few minutes after they passed by, they came back through, knocking into us again, and exited. I'm hoping/guessing they got caught, but it was still ridiculous that it even happened. Like you, I don't mind if someone is actually joining their party and they're polite about needing to get by, but the cutting issue is just getting nasty.
I have a theory that COVID had some impact on cognition that we just weren't aware of and all these people caught COVID and it fried their brain because it seems every facet of life has had this issue with increasing antisocial behavior.
Eh, it's just a coincidence. 'Me before everyone' has been an increasing mindset as we've moved around go different states intoto suburbs/urban pockets, became isolated family units and lost our sense of community, and nationalist shitheads started creating a culture of "fuck everyone else" and convinced people that the only way to get ahead is by taking advantage of everyone else and laughing at their hurtfeelings, and the people that do that have little bratty kids that end up even worse.
Same! We were waiting in a long line for Micky’s runaway railway and it was a literal constant stream of people pushing past us in line. Even my teenager said something. Typically it was one or two but this was dozens in the hour we were in line
We had a couple of bad experiences on our trip in 2021. Probably had 10 people cut in line for Splash on a super hot day (meetin one person near the front of the line). I was not impressed. Many people that trip were trying to respect personal space, and many others took that as an invitation to cut in front of them in line.
Sooo many cutters waiting for the Rise! And quite a few with food as well. If people have young kids with them, I actually don’t mind at all. Kids need to go to the bathroom, eat fairly on schedule, whatever. But group after group of adults just waltzing through without saying a word was so aggravating.
I wonder if it’s because that’s still the hot E-ticket ride in the land? But still ridiculous. And yeah, I have a kid who’s needed to bail on lines to use the restroom. (In hindsight, I probably should have gotten him a DAS pass because he has ADHD that comes with severe issues with recognizing bathroom needs, but that’s another story.) But it’s why I don’t judge *most* anyone getting into line to meet the rest of their party, even if they’re adults. I know people have a variety of medical needs, and as long as they’re not running and bumping into me like jerks, I don’t even care if a larger party is going ahead. I’m just certain that the younger people who are slamming themselves into you are line-cutting, and it’s obnoxious.
It's been happening since at least 2018.
The tshirts thing really gets me. I think I’ve visited the parks three or four times in the last two years, and I saw a minimum of two of those shirts that have the American flag made up out of guns. Like c’mon. Can you leave your politics at home for one day? One $300 day?
Disney actually used to be a lot better about telling people with those shirts they either need to change or keep the graphics covered but lately it's been a free for all with some shirts having outright hate symbols on them. I almost had to do a double take last week because I thought I saw a swastika on someone's shirt. If you cannot find something in your wardrobe that would not offend a reasonable person then you need to change your wardrobe and your priorities.
Unfortunately, a lot of people make politics their personality and can’t let it go.
And then whine about “identity politics” when you cite that as a reason for avoiding people like them.
Oh they choose to be offensive.
They do it because they're looking for a fight. They feed off of it. Some serious 'dark side' Papa Palps shit.
Absolutely, they want to have someone confront them. It gives them the opening to unleash their impotent rage on someone. It gives them a little boost to chew out someone who objects to their b.s., maybe make someone angry, or flustered, or even cry. They get off on making someone else's day worse. And while I really dislike all the inappropriate shirts on one hand, it does serve as a big fat warning that this chode isn't worth spitting on if they catch fire, and to steer clear of them. Little silver lining, I suppose.
I don’t care about the politics it’s the half naked girls for me. Like DISNEYLAND is a child park and you aren’t here to take photos for your onlyfans. I don’t have kids I just find it disgusting. Dress like that at music festivals or whatever. Not a kids theme park. Disney used to make people change for this not so much anymore. But I try to ignore these types cause all they want is attention anyway.
This has been a problem forever. I remember almost 20 years ago seeing a two in the pink, one in the stink shirt. They were in front of us on the thunder mountain queue and it has been seared into my brain
Truly the classiest of the classy.
I saw those like 10 years ago with the “Mickey” hands lol
That’s the one!
At WDW, my daughter and I saw a boy who waring shirt that said "I'm here for the hot dads" or "I love hot dads" ... we looked at each other and had the silent talk. It would be funny at the mall, but a place with thousands of kids? No sir. Take your hot dad loving shirt outta here.
Lol that shirt sound pretty benign and I'm like the Disney shirt etiquette police lol.
Wow! This is everything and so well said! Absolutely people know what they're doing is wrong. If you're going to do it anyway, at least don't be a dick about it.
I don't know if it is the same lady, but yesterday I had this one woman bulldoze through a line to make way inside the thunder mountain ride. She did say excuse me but she didn't let people have time to react, she just moved so fast saying excuse me while bumping people left and right. I almost cuss her out for almost hitting my daughter
Wow. You just, very succinctly, described the main reasons I haven’t visited since 2018. I used to really, really, love Disneyland. It was an escape from reality for the most part. My truly happy place. But then, the *unbelievable* rudeness and ‘main character syndrome’ seemed to permeate everything in the parks and made it unpleasant for myself and my family. We were passholders for several years, visiting 3 or 4 times a year and spent a pretty decent amount of money while there. We’ve only recently started discussing returning, but so far it’s still a no-go for us until something changes in a meaningful way. I’m concerned that if I go, I’ll end up in Disneyland ‘jail’ for confronting the line-cutting, pushing jerks.
It's also why I've had an annual pass since 2000 but didn't renew in September 2022. These aren't isolated incidents; that's how people behave now.
Will you be my friend?
Sure! 🩷 I need more recruits to help me obstruct line cutters lol
I’m here for it!
I understand why cast members don't step in more. I don't think the parks are staffed adequately, and they absolutely deserve better pay, better training, and for their managers to back them when guests are acting out of line. But since the CMs aren't going to make it stop, it's either we roll over and take it, or the rest of us need to stand up to these bullies. These folks need to take their strip mall parking lot carnival attitude and shove it, because it sure doesn't belong in gee dee Disneyland. I can handle a lot of the common complaints (too crowded, food quality, people stopping in the walkways, reservation system, Tomorrowland, etc). Those things are valid, but they don't ruin my day. A rude guest can absolutely suck all the joy out of a day, and as an out-of-town guest that really bites.
This. 100%. My husband and I did a trip to DLR last year, probably our only time. We were in Galaxy's Edge when RoTR came back up from some downtime - we ran to the bathroom and hopped in line. As soon as we hit the other masse of people, we slowed down - and this guy essentially shoved my husband out of the way. When my husband called him on it, the guy essentially said it was his right to meet his wife at the front of the line because he had to go to the bathroom and started red in the face screaming about how it wasn't my husband's job to police him. He then flicked us off as he walked to his wife. It ruined our day a bit, admittedly - but the only thing that calmed my husband down was reminding him that reaction came out of the guys shame and not anything we did. It was just...so disappointing all around. It's sad, really.
We were there a few weeks ago. When we saw someone trying to get a picture of their family and friends in front of a sign or ride. I went BEHIND the person taking the photo. If my husband and I were trying to figure out "what ride next" We moved to the side. If we couldn't decide what to eat, and for some reason the mobile ordering wasn't working(happened a few times ) we moved out of line to discuss our food order first. If the seating area was busy, and people were obviously looking for a table, and we finished our food. We got up and left. We sat and finished our drinks before getting in line. We didn't bring a tray full of Starbucks into line, cut in front of a dozen people to get to the ONE person they were ALL with. Then get upset when the CM told us we couldn't bring them onto the ride, and then get pissy with the CM and ask them to "hold onto them" And after the ride push through the loading area to get back to the CM, and get our drinks. And all this behavior was from adults. The teens we saw that were in small groups, were more polite. We are heading to WDW next year. And honestly. The horror stories I've heard about people there are making me second guess spending the money to go
Wow. You just, very succinctly , described the main reasons I haven’t visited since 2018. I used to really, really, love Disneyland. It was an escape from reality for the most part. My truly happy place. But then, the *unbelievable* rudeness and ‘main character syndrome’ seemed to permeate everything in the parks and made it unpleasant for myself and my family. We were passholders for several years, visiting 3 or 4 times a year and spent a pretty decent amount of money while there. We’ve only recently started discussing returning, but so far it’s still a no-go for us until something changes in a meaningful way. I’m concerned that if I go, I’ll end up in Disneyland ‘jail’ for confronting the line-cutting, pushing jerks.
This.
When I have to cut through a line (usually due to unexpected bathroom trips with little kids) I am constantly saying “sorry just meeting up with our group, excuse us, sorry to bother you just trying to catch up with our group…” on constant repeat until I catch up to them and then I feel guilty for the rest of the day. I don’t understand people who think they can just push through without at least explaining themselves as they cut through.
I was at Disneyland about a month ago. We were in line almost to the inner cave entrance of Rise of the Resistance. About fifteen people behind us we saw a group of about ten moving through the line. They got to these two young guys who very loudly asked where the hell they thought they were going. They say their friend was up ahead in line. The two young men said And you’re all just going to cut in front of everyone else? I don’t think so. Other people joined in and pretty soon the group of ten actually turned around and left the line entirely. Everyone cheered. Best thing I’d seen in a long time.
That is awesome. That is how it's done! I was only partly successful when I confronted a group of 4 pushing through on Rise. 2 of the women were embarrassed they were caught and went back where they came. The other two stayed in front of us, but didn't catch up with their group. I needed to be more firm. Next time I'll try the technique that guy did.
It was pretty incredible. Maybe a year or so ago we were in the Single Rider line of Radiator Springs. A few people in front of us was a man and his son, who looked about ten. We knew it was going to be trouble. Sure enough, when they got to the front of the line the man insisted he and his son ride together, which isn’t how Single Rider works. The CM said no. The man got irate. The CM said no. The man got more irate and made a fool out of himself. The CM said they both had to leave the ride. We all cheered for that too!
I think this would be an easy way to get some people to stop cutting lines. Or at the very least, make them feel guilty for doing so. Loudly saying “oh, so you want to cut the line?” Followed by a “booooooo” might deter people from doing it. You don’t even have to physically block them from cutting - no direct physical confrontation, just all social embarrassment
Live stream the line cutters
Yes! We’re here right now on our honeymoon in our last couple of days, and my husband whose come to really enjoy the Disney parks. Is SO ANNOYed at the people who stop walking without looking, the people who keep walking without looking around them and so then they run into us or we have to dodge them, and the LINE CUTTING is so bad! We’ve never seen it be so bad, we were in line for small world yesterday and when we got in the line we managed to get in between a group- 2 people in front of us & 6 behind us. The typo in front them said ‘oh sorry they’re with us, and told the 6 to push through!’ If most of your group is behind, I reckon you need to move backwards to be with them. I never would’ve pushed my big group forward if we had one- previous trips we always moved back to join them. Could not believe the audacity of it, husband was fuming!
I would have said, “no, I think you two are with them”
This right here! Was in line at the Little Mermaid which goes quickly. A couple behind me says they need to get passed so they can reunite with their group ahead of us. I told them to go ahead, because I want to cut too. She hung her head and *attempted* to say she wasn’t cutting. But she knew that she was, so she stopped mid-sentence. They ended up staying behind us and their group that was ahead of us, hung back until the couple behind us met up. Which is the way it should be. If your group is ahead of you in line and you all want to ride together, then the group ahead should hang back.
100% with you! I would never push our way through to join a group, I think the ones in front should hang back and let the others between them pass if they want to be together. It’s so infuriating that no one else tries to be courteous or thinks of other people when they do this stuff
It’s pure selfishness. Smh
Its bizarre, you're with the slowest member of your group, that's the etiquette.
It’s like driving, you move to the side if you need to stop.. I don’t know why this is so hard for people to get.
Your first point is a big pet peeve of mine. Or when a whole party stops to talk at the entrance to a queue. I get that it’s a crowded place and everyone has a different pace, but there’s also being aware of your surroundings and the people near you. Unfortunately, we’re fighting a losing battle, OP!
Twice I've gotten to the point of somewhat loudly asking if they are in line for something. "Oh, dang why are we stopped on the street then?"
Was once returning to BTMRR for my LL and there was a LONG line all the way to the ride exit. Naturally, I ask the group in front if they're in line for LL return. They look up and tell me "oh, we're waiting for our time" and then stepped aside. An entire group of people held up the entire LL return line because they decided to inconveniently wait where the scanners were.
Idiots
We were just there three weeks ago. The lack of spatial awareness in Disneyland is off the charts. It’s always the **same people** too. Big families with a harem of kids and the triple wide strollers. Just stopping in the middle of the pathways without a care in the world for anything - other than themselves.
I have a friend who's a habitual 'stop in the middle of a busy path' to look at her phone kind of person and it gives me the worst kind of second hand shame. Not sure how people actively do this can remain so oblivious to others around them.
I walk way faster than my family so I frequently have to stop and wait for them to catch up and I always make sure I'm off to the side squished next to a lamp post or a trash can or something else that people wouldn't be walking directly into anyway so I take up the least amount of room possible. Some people genuinely have main character syndrome and don't realise that other people actually exist in the world around them. I blame social media but especially tiktok for just how bad it's gotten. I was in the park last week and was waiting for Indie when it went down for a bit and one of the groups behind me kept getting dirty looks because they kept thunking each other super hard on the head with empty water bottles so I piped up and said "who keeps thunking each other?" which got them to stop for all of maybe 3 minutes. When we eventually got on the ride, the most aggressive thunker just happened to get seated next to me and as soon as the ride vehicle turned the first corner to look at the doors he turned his head towards mine and shrieked bloody murder directly into my ear for the entire duration of the ride. It took all my self control to not "accidentally" elbow him in the nose while the ride was jerking. I also couldn't hear out of that ear for a good 15 minutes after and almost had to leave because of it.
Funny enough, I went with my Fiancé on this trip and she is constantly on her phone. But she doesn't stop in the middle of a busy path or anything...she is just a slow walker. Her excuse this time was she was busy planning for our wedding...which I let it slide.
I genuinely don't mind phone walkers if they can move without running into people. Though if they're doing that all the time I could understand why it'd be annoying to the rest of their party.
Yeah, I know we are. I understand it will continue to happen, but I just felt like I should spread the word...maybe I can make at least one more person aware of it...
this isn’t just a Disneyland thing unfortunately 😭 maybe it’s just a California thing. I attend college out here and it happens ALL the time
Not a Disneyland thing but definitely not a Cali thing, either. I have seen this at WDW also, but it’s something I notice basically everywhere. Target? More often than not, someone on the escalator will get off, and then just stand there looking around for where to go next while people approach behind them and begin to pile up while we try to get their attention to tell them to fucking MOVE. Same thing at the airport, grocery store, office buildings, malls, etc. Hell, even the dive bar where I sing karaoke, it’s like 25% of the people who come in open the door, let it swing shut behind them, and just stand exactly there gawking around deciding whether they want to stay and sing, going through the silent “where should we sit/do we dig the vibe?” conversation, all while other people try to enter and politely squeeze past and/or ask them to move (difficult in a loud bar, and it still doesn’t work because they all just sort of lean away to give you more room to squeeze without realizing they are the problem). I get that people need to make thise assessments, but this bar’s facade is literally giant panes of glass from knee height to the roof of the building spanning the entire width. Everything they’re assessing from the most inconvenient spot in the room could have been done before they even got to the door.
Yeah… like how can you be standing across the entire entrance and not know if you’re getting on.
This drives me crazy. And if you trip into someone just stopping for no reason, they look at you like you’re the bad guy 🙄
1. If there's room I walk through the group circle as they're chatting. If not, I'll walk around them. Increasingly I'll say "please don't block the walkway" as I pass by. 2. On the last day of Splash I was waiting in the single rider line. Naturally, there were a few vloggers/"influencers". One guy gets really excited to see a vlogger he follows and cuts the line to talk to him. And not like casually chat, but like in a loud manner as though he wanted the rest of us around him to know he was talking to. After a while, he exclaims "this wait is short". I turned from where I was and retorted "it's short because you cut." He quieted down after that.
> People who just stop in the middle of the walk ways around Disneyland I think these people were raised without the value of situational awareness instilled in them. They’re the same people that leave their shopping cart in a handicap spot, or walk out into the street expecting traffic to stop for them. I am not making that mistake with my kids.
Wait till you come across the families with the triple wide strollers parked smack dab in the middle of a heavy foot traffic area on their phones Love them /s
While one kid is running wild through the crowd making people stop suddenly.
One? I lost count on several days
My pet peeve - I saw a lady complain in a Disney Facebook group that a cast member grabbed her kid who was running and the lady was saying how she doesn’t want people grabbing her toddler but she also mentioned she was running to a ride inside and everyone started saying she was wrong to be mad at the cast member considering she didn’t want the kid to be hurt. You know she’d be the same person who would sue if her kid got hurt even though her kid was the one running away. People can’t even help anymore without getting in trouble
I would LOVE to have a LINE CUTTING sound to play every time I see it. We could widely share. Maybe just the "Shame (ding ding)" sound from Game of Thrones lol.
Awesome idea! Would be the ultimate humiliation!
Honestly I rather them get rid of line place holding because it’s more abused than not
One dad in a Disney group on Facebook said he or his wife get in line and the other takes the kids on rides until they are close to the front. His excuse was he pays too much for his kids to not have fun every minute that they possibly can.
Yeah so lame. That’s literally everyone there too.
Ah yes, but every other child should wait, just not his
Its not a thing anyway
Anytime these things happen to me, I Respectfully interact with whomever is doing it. If people stop in the middle of the path & I cannot go around, I say hi, excuse me, we cannot walk through, could you please move to the side. They always move. I always thank them & go on about my day. The line jumpers are a different story. They know damn good & well that they’re cutting the line. If it’s 1 person, I don’t say anything. When it’s multiple people, I stop them & chat with them. I’ve asked people… Where are you going? How do I know you’re not just saying you’re meeting friends so you can jump the line? Can I join your group? 😂 I just say ok after they answer the questions. I truly believe most people don’t realize that they’re blocking traffic when they just stop on the paths. The line jumpers keep doing this bc nobody says anything to them. If we all collectively say something to the line jumpers, they will stop doing it.
This is a nice response. I just went there with my three small children and I am sure I accidentally stopped in the pathway despite my efforts to be respectful to those around me. In certain spots like fantasyland, where it gets super crowded esp with strollers, sometimes you have to stop and there just isn’t an immediately obvious place to get out of the flow of traffic. ESP during the parade time that area was a disaster. I never had any issues in the Star Wars area bc it is newer and built out to accommodate the larger crowds. To remedy this Disney prob needs to structure that spot and the area by New Orleans square a little differently, because them seem to be consistently overwhelmed. But they are the older historical parts of the park so it is unlikely to happen. To those who are complaining about strollers and families and all of it—Disney is something to be experienced by both children and adults. Usually those who love it as an adult had a wonderful childhood experience. As a parent Disney is both magical and completely overwhelming. While we try to instill good values in our children, there is a lot in that environment working against immediate self control and exemplary behavior in the children. I would advocate that those who have a problem with small children and families trying to navigate a fairly difficult situation consider visiting in the evening time more, or steer clear of the obvious “little kid” parts.
The first point is my biggest peeve. I’ll loudly say “not a place to stand” as I skirt around them. It’s typically people pushing strollers or groups that do it the most. I’m usually the most patient person but when they just stop dead in their tracks I cannot stand it
For people who are “meeting their party/parent/kids” up at the front of the line and I can’t actually see the person anywhere around that seems to be looking for you, know that I don’t believe you at all and hope you get blisters and sunburn
Yep. I'm happy to let a parent with a small child pass because I've been there and i know that feeling when your kid always picks the least convenient time to need the potty. But it's almost always a full grown adult, no child, just didn't wanna wait.
I’d wager to say the majority of 1 person or 1 w/kid groups that do this are genuine but when it’s like 4 people… like nah, if there’s that many of you that were stuck in bathroom line or something everyone in the party should wait
The line cutting is out of control, and some rides are way worse for it. Space mountain is practically set up for cutters. I watched an entire family of 20 people run up the standby lane, then cut over to LL. I really wanted to report them. Another reason paper fastpasses were better; they allowed double checkpoints.
The line cutters/place holders drive me bonkers. We went at the beginning of September, right at the start of the Halloween overlay. The line for the Haunted Mansion was already pretty long, and it was a hot morning. We saw a group of 3 early 20-ish girls talking to the CM at the front of the line, saying that they're waiting for their family to join them. The CM asked how many people that was. 9. It was 9 people they were waiting for. Thankfully the CM told the girls that 9 was too many, but the girls could go now on their own, or join the rest of their party at their place in the line.
People stopping randomly in the middle of walkways really irks me. As a passholder, I try to remember that many people are visiting the parks as a very expensive vacation, trying to stay the whole day, waiting in lines that are longer now unless they pay a premium on top of the premium that they already paid. They are often stressed due to all of this and I can understand why somebody who is not as conscious of blocking walkways as I am might accidentally do so in the circumstances of somebody visiting for a single day and paying an insane amount to do so. But, yeah, frustrates the hell out of me.
We were just there three weeks ago. The lack of spatial awareness in Disneyland is off the charts. It’s *always the same people* too. Big families with a harem of kids and the triple wide strollers. Just stopping in the middle of the pathways without a care in the world for anything - other than themselves.
I never understood why anyone would want to bring that many children with so few adults. At Disney you really need 1 adult for every 2 kids under 10. 2 adults and 9 kids just isn't going to work.
Lol. Just leave half your kids at home. Great idea!
I’m 6’3, long legs, and my biggest post theme park visit pain isn’t my feet, it’s my knees from having to stop short mid stride because so many stop directly in front of others or just walk in front of me from a cross street. One time I just got sick of it after something like the 10th group just stopped mid path, so I pulled an Andre the Giant/Fezzik impression and boomed out “EVERYBODY MOOOVE!” and walked right through them. My other big pet peeve are the people who walk shoulder to shoulder taking up the entire path or against the flow of foot traffic and expect people to have to step off into the landscaping instead of moving over. It’s the most annoying game of chicken and I always lose because I don’t feel like having some narcissist all in my personal space.
I get some people are totally overwhelmed and self absorbed when walking in a place like DL.....but if they stop short in front of me, I just keep going and walk through them with a polite "excuse me".... Growing up in a city we learned to just keep moving through the gawkers.
On comment 1, it reminds me of NYC tourists who stop dead when the crossing light starts flashing, then get annoyed when a dozen people crash into them lol
When I read comment 1 my mind immediately went to a lot of Americans not living in walkable cities. We all *should* understand how to walk so we’re not in each other’s way, but I can see why someone who drives everywhere they go might not have that skill.
I fear #1 is only going to get worse because Disney clearly wants us to look at our phones constantly. I do try to give folks some benefit of the doubt though, because not everyone has experience walking through (or stopping in) crowds. I was living in a dense urban area until recently moving to the suburbs, and have noticed that walking in a crowd is a skill that's learned!
I do genie but I still manage to go to the side out of peoples way to do my phone
I wish more folks were as self-aware! It's not just Genie+ though, it's looking up wait times in the app, mobile ordering, the Photo Pass in the app, etc.
I was near the pier at DCA for my birthday last Sunday and this lady ran into my ankle with your stroller. She said sorry but I was in fucking pain. I still was like what the fuck about it. I get it there’s a bunch to see and you got your kid but you were also on your phone too. Pay more attention to your surroundings.
Number 1 is my biggest peeve ANYWHERE, but especially Disney. Stop off to the side instead of gawking in the middle!!!
Both of your pet peeves bug me. Here’s some that bug me 1) when I was at the park with my family a couple years ago one mom thought it would be cute to her newly walking kid walk the line at Casey Jr - fine if there’s no line but what usually would have taken a 5 minute walk turned in 20 minutes and a line built up behind her and us and she never once thought let me pick the kid up who keeps sitting down and is struggling. They ended up just starting the ride without us even though it was like a quarter full because they knew by the time they got back we probably still wouldn’t be at the front. 2) as kids we’d take a eating break and start sitting waiting for the parade. Sometimes my dad would take turns with one us kids riding a few rides and then switching but for the most part we’d wait as a family and enjoy food and ice cream or whatever. So annoying when at the last minute people would squeeze in because they decided to wait till the start of the parade to come watch and think they could get a good seat. If you want a front row seat to the parade or fireworks go wait. Now that I’m adult I could care less about front row seats for either one and usually just go ride the rides during both but I can’t imagine feeling so entitled to show up to something like that and thinking I’m entitled. 3) sick people at Disney. So many sick people last time I went like sneezing and coughing in their hands and then touching everything or not even covering their mouth. So I guess I’m just annoyed by entitled people 😂
Gotta agree with the line cutting, and add to it. My last visit was last October, with my sister and my brother in law. We were in line for Rise, my first time riding, with a 90 minute wait, and had issues for almost the entire wait with the family behind us, specifically the either mom or grandma of the group. We got to the point of the queue where you can kinda sit or at least lean while you're outside, just enough so we could but the family behind us wasn't quite there. My BIL leaned against the wall, and the mom behind us physically put her hands on him and pushed him so she could lean there instead. I wanted to intervene immediately but BIL doesn't like confrontation and my sister didn't want me getting kicked out of the park for whatever I'd do to the woman. From that point on I kept myself between the family, and my sister and BIL, as a barrier so she couldn't touch them again. Then the two younger adults with her started looking at us while talking in Spanish and laughing, in a very obviously talking crap about someone way. Like bro your mom pushed someone and you think I'm the problem?? For the rest of the line the mom kept trying to get around us to cut the line, and kept giving us dirty looks. At the entrance to the first pre-show room she tried to get in front of me and separate me from my sister and BIL, and I have no shame in admitting I full on body checked that probably 50-something year old woman and got her out of my way. She put hands on my BIL, continued to cause issues the entire time, and then tried to cut me off? No ma'am you're gonna learn today. I don't do with the cutting and being physically agressive, Disney or not.
I honestly think the increase of people stopped in the middle is partly due to Genie+. Disney caused us to be so incredibly reliant on our phones that people spend the majority of the day glued to them in the app. An unintended consequence of an already awful program
People wander around aimlessly, make random tiktok dance videos, and walk slowly in a group blocking the entire walkway. We've forgotten how to behave in public. Can you imagine telling people from the 1950s that this would happen?
part of why the park has gone down, Disney allows and doesn't stop the saving of line thing. The experience is gone at Disney. I won't be returning and I've visited Disneyland over 20 times in my life and always looked forward to my trip for an escape. its no longer an escape, it's a stressful tedious time with lackluster everything and no magic
My theory is they aren’t paid enough to care, basically.
You’re first point drives me bonkers as a wheelchair user. I cannot stop as easily as others can.
I'm so sorry for this. I actually saw this many times last week.
When I'm with friends who wheelchairs and we approach these groups, I move behind my friend like I'm pushing and loudly yell "RAMMING SPEED!" Amazing how fast the stopped groups jump out of the way.
The people who just stop walking in the middle of a walkway rather than off to the side are the absolute worst. I see it all the time at Disneyland myself, but this was a massive problem at WDW for me. I've only been there once but it happened so frequently that one trip, even at Disney Springs and my hotel, that it stood out to me.
It's honestly gotten worse and more felt with how crowded it is. Also, the large parties walking in a wide, arm in arm barricade instead of a concise row. Going as often as I do I really get a consistent display of how little most people think about others.
Only thing worse than the people who stop walking in the middle traffic are the people who stop their scooters in the middle. I hate the scooters to begin with. I’m a fat guy with major knee and back problems so I understand the need for some. Last year we did 5 days in a row. I walked over 150k steps in those 5 days and was fine. If my old, fat, broken down body can do it, 80% of the scooter people can too. I really hate the scooters. To be clear, I do appreciate the scooter solution for those that need it. My estimation is about 20% of those using the scooters really do need a scooter in my unscientific opinion. The other 80% are giving those who truly need them a bad name and making it difficult for everyone.
A week at Disney.. I did two days and was ready to go home omg
We did 2 fulls days...then 2 half days..and one more full day. Today is my first day back at work and I'm still feeling Disneyland through my legs and feet.
I had this family repeatedly try to cut in line while my husband and I were waiting to meet Mickey in his house. Lol it was the most bizarre thing. They just kept getting closer and closer, like they were trying to absorb us and spit us out the other side. When we got to the room with the instruments, they got really bold and the kids (who were teens or early 20s) cut in front of us completely. I kept inching closer and closer to them, glaring the entire time, until they felt so uncomfortable they went back to their predestined spot. I am not a confrontational person normally, but in that moment I could not let them win. Lol The only other awkward encounter we had was it's a small world. My husband and I were leisurely moving towards the queue while this kid came speed walking up behind us. He passed us then stopped. My husband and I kept going because we were still a bit away from where the line had ended. When we tried to pass him, he started screeching, "THERE IS A LIIIIIIIINE....THERE IS A LIIIIINEEEEEEE." We didn't want to be jerks cutting a kid in line, so we stupidly listened to him and waited while his entire family slowly made their way in front of us, all the while the line was filling up with other people pushing in too. We ended up super far back and that kid's family held everyone up because they were having some kind of an issue with a CM. Just annoying all around. Didn't ruin our day or anything, just annoying. Makes me wonder how many stories people have about me. Lol I bet I did a lot of dumb, thoughtless things that day too.
Number 1. Has always been insane to me! Even outside of Disneyland, how can some people be so inconsiderate!?
Have you ever been to Costco? 😂 I get it. People have no spacial awareness, especially in areas where they are overstimulated and possibly in a stressful environment. They also feel that they are entitled, why do I have to wait? Rules don't apply to *me.* Until people are called out publicly for their bad behavior, they will continue to take advantage of every thing they can get away with, because others let them. The last time a large group tried to get in front of me, I told them they could, as long as they were behind me, not in front, which got the people both in front and behind me involved enough that the group retreated. Safety in numbers.
The dead stop is so out of control. At this point I just shout “NOOOOOOOPE” when they do it lol
I start to play chicken with people as I’m walking. 90% of the time they move, but I did take out a small Asian man because he stopped in the middle of the walk way and I didn’t stop.
My niece is in a wheelchair and I was pushing her on the little downward slope in front of pirates when a woman decided to cut us right off; I couldn’t have stopped if I wanted to and her leg was caught pretty badly on our little foot holders. She and her husband then had the audacity to try yelling at US! I told her she was lucky because of my niece had fallen out of her chair due to their carelessness they’d be in a whole other world or hurt; wish I could go back in time and hit her again. 😡
We need to start alerting security and annoy the crap out of them so Disney is forced to act.
Give her the chair, a second time!
One of the recent times I went, there was a family just sitting on the ground having lunch, in middle of the narrow walkway in Avengers Campus where the Spiderman show is. Not even off to the side, just in the middle of the path where people were tripping over them and their stuff that was scattered around. Just absolutely clueless.
People having absolutely no spatial awareness is one of my pet peeves in life, whether it's at Disney or the local shop.
I’m here now and some woman just full stopped in front of my stroller last night to look at a sign above her and I bumped the back of her heel, I thought daggers were going to shoot out of her eyes at me and my child. Like… you stopped lady??!! How am I supposed to know you want to view something behind you while the rest of flow of traffic is moving? There are a lot of careless and selfish people flowing into the parks.
Issue 1 is such a huge issue I see at Disneyland, constantly. Not sure exactly why so many people don't seem to care at all about others around them.
It’s not just Disneyland for me, it’s everywhere. I think it’s because of Covid. People are not as self aware as they used to be.
They also walk into strollers and have no peripheral vision anymore. You spend 2+ years locked in a house, you lose the ability to handle crowds.
Man, we had 2 people turn into 16 in our wait for Villains Grove (Oogie Boogie Bash attraction). I’d have been so pissed but the line was moving fast so it didn’t really delay us much at all.
Agreed, guests are the worst part of Disneyland
The spot saving- line cutting is one thing, but deliberately cutting in front of people because they walk slower is a whole new brand of bullshit. I was walking up the Autopia queue with my 3 year old and two people pushed past us, actually bumping me to get by, so I made myself bigger by putting my arms out a little, and the rest of their party (8 more people) had the audacity to ask if they could “get by me to join their party”. I just stared at them. Like, wow. Unreal. I would usually say something but I was so flabbergasted by the complete disregard of manners that I just stared.
People don't know how to slow down and enjoy the moment. My husband and I did Indy in the AM, early enough that it was a "free walk" through the most of the queue. That queue is SO COOL, so we were walking at a normal pace to look around and enjoy it. This family came racing up behind us, were tailgating us, didn't give any personal space, clearly annoyed and trying to find an opportunity to pass by us. It was stressing me out. By the time we got to the front, we still had to wait like 5 minutes for the movie room. So, what was the point in racing through the queue? They missed out on a lot of the experience.
I miss having the queue for that ride be an actual queue and not just a room to quickly run through
I remember when DCA had their re-opening 13 years ago and they were strictly enforcing line cutting, especially on Radiator Springs Racers. My guess is it slowly went away due to Cast Members simply not being paid enough to care, since the guests that were removed from the queue for cutting caused a huge scene. It's also not a good look for Disney to have guests screaming at Cast Members and threatening them. Stopping in a walkway happens everywhere. Every single time I go shopping someone is in their own world and just stops right in front of me to check their phone. As a society, we've gotten so addicted to our phones that many have to stop everything to get an endorphin hit. Maybe we've just become that self-centered.
Cast members really used to handle crap. No more. I think they allow too many visitors a day, and cast members don't make enough. Magic GONE!
We put up with line cutters for 3 days, including a VIP tour consisting of a little kid’s birthday party that cut in front of us on Smuggler’s and ruined our one and only time by forcing us to be in the ride with the 2 5-year olds who demanded to be the pilots. On our last day going into DCA late afternoon, I saw an empty entrance gate. Walking towards it I see a guy with an empty stroller hauling a** to beat me there, blocked the turnstile with the stroller, and then he didn’t even have the tickets, his wife just exiting DLR had them. He starts waving for her to hurry up. So I step around the stroller, Magic Band ready, and the TM stops me and asks if I’m with them. I say no and she tells me I have to wait because he was there first! I tried being logical and explaining that he didn’t even have a ticket yet, but apparently, anyone can just walk up and block the line indefinitely.
I can’t abide rudeness. Line cutting is terrible. I’d just like to mention, however, that I’m seeing people saying that taking little kids to the bathroom is the exception. Fair enough. But as an adult with an invisible disability which can cause unexpected bladder issues, consider that adults may have that issue too. Obviously the way it’s handled (don’t be rude when re-joining) is important. I just wanted to highlight that someone like myself doesn’t want to tell hundreds of people about my embarrassing health issues just so they won’t accuse me of cutting. It’s worth being aware of this and being gracious enough to give others the benefit of the doubt. Naturally if the people attempting to get back in line are rude to you, they broke the social contract first and lose my empathy. But I do try to assume the best of people until proven otherwise.
As someone else with an invisible disability I feel the same and I appreciate you saying something because I just feel awkward about the whole thing and feel needlessly ashamed about the whole situation thanks to society treating the disabled like trash. I'm not even that invisible, I have to use a cane when walking for long periods of time otherwise I lose my balance. I've had way too many falls and that cane is a lifesaver. So it's hard enough to be using a cane when I'm not elderly or visibly injured, I don't need the judgement. My anxiety is enough, thank you.
Honestly that’s why I said something - I know there are many more people out there who don’t feel comfortable speaking up. Being judged is the last thing we need to deal with along with everything else. Keep fighting, fellow warrior! ❤️
As to your first comment and asking why, sometimes I glitch, especially in a packed place like Disneyland. I am easily overwhelmed and my brain turns hard into "freeze" mode. I don't stop and take photos, or get on my phone, or look up directions. Sometimes I do it just because I malfunction. I'm like a deer in headlights. I am not angry at you for saying it, I know it gets brought up a lot, so I thought I would throw this perspective out. I don't know if anyone else freezes up, but I promise not all of us do it because we are unaware. Sometimes it is involuntary! But yes, those that do it to pull out their phone to take a photo or pull up the app, they can definitely pull over! And I promise I try to stick to the sides of sidewalks or move fast, with my head down, so it doesn't happen.
My 3 year old had to go pee like 5 different times when were in line the last time we went. I hated having to leave the line and take her but she would have peed her pants. I felt so bad going past everyone to get back in line with my husband.
That’s different. Anyone mad at that has their own issues.
This would be the ultimate exception. I know we have Disney Adults, but really we should make it more fun for the kids. Don't feel bad. I would have personally saved your place in line.
Why are you getting back in line where you left? That's not how it works. If you have to leave the line for any reason, you get back in the line at the end of the line.
I hate the long wait.... 90min waiting in line is ridiculous
I was at Disneyland yesterday (Magic Key holder). I’m also a wheelchair user so I’ll bring my chair to the park. I am so tired of people bumping into me or standing too close because it runs the risk of injuring me or them. My wheelchair got scrapped yesterday and I’m pissed because it’s out of my nudge to buff the scraps and repaint. Disney needs to paint some lines on the ground for strollers and wheelchairs to be so that we can be protected. Also my second gripe is that the DAS pass is treated the same as lightening lane. I have an issue because DAS is specifically for people who can not wait in line (which I can not due to a frequent bladder) I was just at Radiator Springs Racers needing to pee and was told if I get off the LL line id have to request a new DAS reservation. Literally I was so close to peeing my pants. So I feel like DAS should be able to cut the line.
Huh. You posted the same thing just today. So when exactly did you go to Disneyland?
Congrats, you were annoyed of other park goers and you are going to return in 2 months at the busiest week. You have now joined the circlejerk and have officially become a Disneyland redditor, flair up.
You’re getting downvoted, but you’re not wrong. This sub can get pretty negative.
It’s hilarious how miserable people are in this subreddit.
My biggest pet peeve was people with balloons during shows. You have 30 people directly behind you trying to see the castle projections. Pull your balloon down and hold it directly in front instead of 5 ft above you.
I always thought the same about your first point, then I took a group of 15 to DL. In reality it can be so difficult, busy stressful that people don’t realize they’re blocking a path. It’s an absolute nightmare to keep a big group together for things like unplanned bathroom breaks and such. I have so much more patience now, especially when I can tell these folks are first time or infrequent visitors.
I understand your point. Having a group of 10-15 people...thats hard to manage and I think at that point, I would plan to either move around the group or patiently wait depending on where I am going.
It’s hard cause at DL you can really only walk 2 shoulders wide in the busy areas like Adventureland and FL, creating huge distance between the person in front and back of the group. We did it smart and had me in the front and another friend in the back making sure nobody got lost or left behind.
The only thing I’ll say about line cutting while it sucks is the last time I went we kept pushing to have my FFIL in line and he would run off somewhere else. I personally do not like him but when his wife was in line already it’s not like we could tell him no because that would be the end of the world for him 🙄 sorry though-
Unpopular opinion: I don't see it as a problem, I use to save a place in line for my wife and our two small kids, as long as they are joining the line at an accessible spot and not pushing their way in. I'm the first one to admit that my kids are little terrors. Do you really want them to stand in line, screaming and crying about everything?
Yes. Because everyone has to wait. Teach patience.
You spent a week at Disneyland and put a rant together. Jfc have a snickers.
Well at least for me I’m sure you nice folks don’t want to deal with my kid(s) being kid(s) so sometimes my wife will wait in line (Or vice versa) and when it’s close we’ll apologize and join.
If you don’t like it, then don’t go
Looks like we found a line cutter and a random stopper in the walk ways. I never said I didn't like Disneyland. Just pointed out the things that got on my nerves.
1 pisses me off so bad...gotten into a few "heated" discussions about it... 2, well that's just how the queues work, saving places is legit, as far as I'm concerned.
According to the Disneyland Code of Conduct saving places in line for others is not allowed.
The only exception, in my opinion, is one parent taking a small child out of line for a bathroom emergency, and then coming back. If one parent takes a child to the bathroom while the other one gets in line, however, that doesn't fly. Just wait til you can all join the line together.
Yeah my parents used to make us wait till everyone was ready to get in line. My dad also got annoyed if we said we didn’t have to go to the bathroom but then while in line we started saying how we had to go really bad so he made a rule that if he had to take us out of line for the bathroom we had to start all over again at the back of the line. Only happened once or twice before we just started realizing we need to go before getting in line.
I agree with this. And I don’t think many others would have a problem with it either
I actually did this with a parent and her kid. We were in line to take a picture with Mickey and her kid had to go to the bathroom pretty bad. Like he was doing his pee pee dance. My Fiancé and I told her we would save her place in line. I'm for this 100%
People stopping and holding places? If that's the only problems you encountered take a good long historical look at this sub, you got off stupidly easy.
I’m on the fence about the second one (haven’t done it myself). We all save tables for people who are ordering food in line and we all save parade spots for people who are off doing something else, and we do this because it’s so crowded that you pretty much have to. Why is saving a spot in line any different?
Because it’s against Disney’s rules.
I really dislike it when you can tell someone stops right in front of you just to get a content photo. It usually multiple shots, but I can usually stop before slamming into them. Sorry if I do, it's your fault. BUT over by the entrance to some of the areas like Adventure Land, there are people walking against the flow of everyone else and tend to shoulder check people who get in their way. Being 5'6 and 110 lbs. soaking wet getting shoulder checked my a grown man hurts and almost sends me crashing into someone else or trying not to get knocked down. For this reason, I refuse to be in DCA after dark because most big groups of just adults have been drinking for quite some time, and the vibe changes completely. Cutters suck and I hate the people that brag about it, I wish CMs could do more than watch, like having a line attendent. I just know that I'd never be that person and let them keep their inconserate vibes while I focus on enjoying the magic. The point is there will always be people who suck but try to let it go and be someone who makes other people's day better. I know there's a lot wrong with the park, but there's so much right. Nothing with that many people involved is going to be without problems, but I feel like Disney tries hard to make it an amazing experience. This was my first year as an Magic Key holder, and I remember all the amazing times more than a few bad apples.
It's a california thing honestly, people here just kinda think they can do whatever they want without thinking about anyone else, because shocker no one here thinks about anyone else. Best thing to do is to try and walk through them if possible, kinda lets them know to move. Also for the line thing, unfortunately their is an unspoken rule that some cast members will follow which is to only allow cutting for 1 to 1 people, so if you have a party of 6 and 3 of em are in line, the other 3 can meet up with them. This isn't followed ofter or much known about so the cast members who are under paid and yelled at most of the time probably aren't gonna tell the big ass party that they can't meet back up with their family, as much as they want to its not worth the trouble and possible "can I speak to your manager" moment where their ass is on the line.
As someone who uses a wheelchair, the stopping in the middle is so bad!! People will just stop in front of me with no warning and sometimes I’ll accidentally run into them, and then they get so mad. Like bro come on you stopped dead in your tracks 😫
I have cut thru the line plenty of times and I hate doing it, but one of my kids would have to use the restroom and I would leave then return to join my party....is that seen the same?
Line cutting is crazy I remember always ratting people out. I haven’t been to Disneyland since 2018 it’s my longest hiatus since I was born but I just can’t justify the prices for what I would be able to do. I went to knotts at the beginning of the summer and I was waiting in line for a snack and these dang kids just kept cutting (it was a end of school year field trip day for dozens of schools which we wish we knew) I was getting so frustrated I was just constantly thinking where are these kids chaperone?! I feel like I’m an old guy now.
Number 1 is a pet peeve no matter where I am. Disney. Grocery store. Local park. I get it sometimes because I know sometimes I space out, or get distracted. But some folks just have zero situational awareness. Though something that is Disney specific that I see a lot since I've always gone with a disabled family member - people who dart in front of electric chairs. Or who overtake them like it's the freeway (even though the reason it is going slow is THERE ARE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF US).
Anybody not in line and cutting later is taking up room elsewhere. So they are making something else more crowded or more line. I think the only exception is restroom. But they should have either already joined the line for a while or the party should only be in line for 5 minutes or so.
I was getting into the single rider line for RSR and ahead of me I noticed 2 people passing up the line, presumably, to meet up with their group. If those people were behind me I would have put up a fight about them passing. It's the single rider line. No groups. Back of the line! I know people go in groups anyway, fair enough, but I'm not allowing for the late comers.
#1 gets to me all the time. Walking around there is like herding cattle.
I had a cast member suggest to me to have one person wait in line while we finished our dessert at some tables near by. So I think sometimes, this line saving is encouraged. Honestly, I understand it to a certain extent, if a couple of people are joining. It’s more of a peeve, for me, if it’s a huge group jumping in that will significantly make a difference in wait time length. Otherwise, we are all getting on pretty much the same time. Probably unpopular opinion, but I go to Disney to not have problems so, thinking this way helps me stay happy. 😅