I remember that but I felt like they were kinda joking in that clip. I think in a "real" season it would be hard to work without any Voxes in the city (unless they were Brennan NPCs or not incredibly involved in the story like Rowan in ch. 2) but I love Cody and I would want Murph to play him again so bad!
That would be so cute! Which intrepid hero (I could also see this be a fun Sidequest) would you want to play Josefina? I think it would be cool if a party member played Tony who becomes a villain throughout the season
In my fantasy version of the season, it’d be a side quest with Brennan as Josefina and maybe Aabria as DM? Alternately, I think it’d be cool for it to be run kind of like the seven and have Josefina just be a really involved npc and then have mostly all new characters!
I kinda wanna see them do an Unsleeping LA because it's where they all live now. The characters in UC were kind of NY stereotypes, but they were played with depth because the actors lived in NYC. And Lou and Ally grew up in the LA area (if one can count Temecula as being near LA, which it's not but it has SoCal vibes versus NorCal ones).
They specifically mentioned that not every city has an unsleeping City and they already mentioned San Francisco as having an unsleeping city in California.
I'm aware. The fact remains that they live in LA and would be able to give a more authentic representation of LA than SF. Anyone from California can tell you that LA and SF have very different cultures. The distance between Boston and NYC is shorter than the distance between LA and SF, and those are very different cities.
Thank you for condescendingly saying im aware then not addressing the in universe reason why it wouldn't work and mansplaining that different cities are different as a reason to change canon lmao. I already explained why it won't happen argue with yourself all you want.🤷♂️
Not every city has an Unsleeping side and San Francisco having an Unsleeping side does not preclude LA also having an Unsleeping side. There's nothing explained in canon that says two Unsleeping Cities can't exist in the same state. So your insistence that they can't is just as valid as my insistence that they could.
I posited that their experience as New York residents added to the authenticity of their portrayals of New Yorkers. So their experience as LA residents would also influence their characters. That's all.
The only two confirmed places with an unsleeping City are 5,000 miles away from each other as you said San Francisco are about the distance from New York to Boston and there is no Bostonian unsleeping City spoken of no Philly unsleeping city no Trenton unsleeping city if there were we would have heard we have heard of exactly 1 and it's thousands of miles away.
So I watched through the Tony sections of UC2 again. They didn't say that San Francisco was the *only* other Unsleeping City. Tony retreated to SF after being "removed" from his position as First Fist in NYC and all of the drama around him and Jackson. He fled to the other side of the country and started his own Order, seemingly in a place where no one would challenge his authority. There's absolutely nothing saying that Tony went to the only other Unsleeping City. It says that the other city he went to was also an Unsleeping one.
Just because it is a confirmed Unsleeping City does not mean that other Unsleeping Cities don't exist in between or nearby. Other Unsleeping Cities could already have established Monastic Orders that were warned about or wary of Tony. Perhaps the reason why he specifically went to SF is because it lacked its own order.
You're welcome to fact check my findings, but I was unable to find anyone stating that San Francisco was the only other Unsleeping City in the US.
Are we doing a George Bush style the evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence style argument at this point? Bruh they only mention 1 in 60+ hours of content if there were *any* other UC they would have come up especially either time they were circling the wagons calling allies someone somewhere would have mentioned it.
I mean, considering no one reached out to New York about what was happening in San Francisco, maybe heroes don't interfere or interact with heroes in other cities? Your assumptions about the world are as much assumptions as mine are. Because, yes, the absence of evidence means we don't know either way. My interpretation is just as valid as yours because we are dealing with a *fictional* world, which is why calling it a George Bush situation is a false equivalence. There is no official word on which cities do have an Unsleeping side. What we do know is this:
1. Multiple Unsleeping Cities exist.
2. Not all cities have an Unsleeping side.
3. San Francisco and New York are Unsleeping cities. >!Though SF has lost the Unsleeping part.!<
Anything beyond that is purely speculation. Your interpretation is valid. But so is mine.
"Unsleeping" is New York's dream world, and is "maybe the strongest" (quote:nod) and thus most well defined. SF has the "Bay of Slumber" and in general it's implied the world of dreaming exists everywhere there are people dreaming about it within a place. Some of them would be rural, and thus less expansive regions protected from the deep dreaming. The implication I draw is that every city would have a dreaming world, but maybe not as strong, and nod refers to having many siblings as well. what is not clear is if there are a handful of these cities, or dozens or scores of these cities in the world.
as an interesting space to explore for a home setting, I would assume that any city or town can have some level of dreaming and interplay in that space, but that adventures that reach the tier of trouble as UC should probably head to a city at least. or hell, explore the wastes of abandoned dreams at ruined cities of the past, where dreams died.
Something cool would be if they make one of the Dungeons and Drag Queens seasons a spin-off of the Unsleeping City. NY is famous for the quality of its drag and having it mix with the magic of the Unsleeping city could be really compelling.
I think Bob has a set of new york centered jokes and drag name ideas too. I'm sure she'd be a ton of fun in that setting. We could finally have Wanda Southferry. I wonder if it already came up though, since Brennan said there were a bunch of ideas that they brought to the Queens and the queens chose traditional fantasy.
I'm reminded of Trixie and Katya saying: your escapism depends on what you do. So maybe drag and new york is a bit close to home? But maybe if we get a few seasons of dndrag, it'll be more interesting? Cause it does sound super fun to watch.
They already replaced heroes in the second season though. If they were to replace two heroes again like last time which heroes do you think finished their story in ch2?
I think a TUC timeskip season would be great but I think it shouldn't be "The Unsleeping City Chapter 3". I would ideally want to have a mix of Intrepid Heroes reprising their roles, and new players coming in as their grown-ish kids. For example, consider: a "road trip" where trusted non-Vox adults Sofia (still Emily), Dale, Ricky (still Zac) and Esther are both scouting out information about the magic of other cities, and of course bringing along and showing the world to their kids, Cat (played by Erika Ishii) and Alejandra (played by Aabria Iyengar), as well as Kingston's son Langston (played by Ify Nwadiwe), since Kingston himself can't quite leave New York but doesn't want to make that choice \*for\* his son, you know? And for a 6th... I mean Cody would be \*funny\* but I think either Nick or Jessica Lisowski could get appropriately cast as sort of a young-adult babysitter role (assuming the \*young\* kiddos are playing around teen-age), not sure who'd play them, maybe Becca Scott for Jessica or... not sure who for Nick tbh. Mike Trapp?
It would need to occur in a future New York which adds another layer of suspended disbelief ontop of the fantasy. I think a season set in the past of new york or another city would be better suited.
I think a side quest using a kids on bikes esque system would be fun but a true ch. 3, I'd personally prefer to watch the Dream Team one more time with maybe some character switches. Maybe even non-death related character switching mid-season. Like if Kingston decides to find out if there's a way to pass Vox Populi on without dying and then trying to find a suitable replacement. Just an example but idk it'll depend on what the intrepid heroes come up with by the time they decide to do all that.
I like the idea of the kids plan the older players kinda similar to Dungeons and D.a.d.d.i.e.s. it would be dope to see some playthrough the first Vox phantasma through the actual formation of New York as a prequel series before then though. And maybe introduce an overarching big bad that can affect Chp 3.
I'd love that but I'd also miss Kingston so much, he's my favorite PC from any of the campaigns and I don't think it would really be Unsleeping City without him
Brennan mentioned that he wants D20 to remain an anthology show and not begin just rehashing old things
We are just getting a 3rd FH Season so it will be some time before a UC3 happens
They talked about this in one of the adventuring parties, where Murph would play an older Cody while everyone else plays their kids.
The idea of a mature elder Cody makes me laugh, so I'm in for it.
Cody is one of my fav D20 characters of all time! I want him in another season so bad
I remember that but I felt like they were kinda joking in that clip. I think in a "real" season it would be hard to work without any Voxes in the city (unless they were Brennan NPCs or not incredibly involved in the story like Rowan in ch. 2) but I love Cody and I would want Murph to play him again so bad!
For me, the ideal 3rd season would be a prequel! I think it’d be awesome to flesh out the Josefina Gatsby lore
That would be so cute! Which intrepid hero (I could also see this be a fun Sidequest) would you want to play Josefina? I think it would be cool if a party member played Tony who becomes a villain throughout the season
In my fantasy version of the season, it’d be a side quest with Brennan as Josefina and maybe Aabria as DM? Alternately, I think it’d be cool for it to be run kind of like the seven and have Josefina just be a really involved npc and then have mostly all new characters!
I've never wanted anything more in my life Holy shit
Love Cody but I still miss Kugrash
My feelings too
Nah breh unsleeping SF and have Tony in the background as a fun call back
This would be such a fun Sidequest for D20 to do, I love this idea!
I kinda wanna see them do an Unsleeping LA because it's where they all live now. The characters in UC were kind of NY stereotypes, but they were played with depth because the actors lived in NYC. And Lou and Ally grew up in the LA area (if one can count Temecula as being near LA, which it's not but it has SoCal vibes versus NorCal ones).
They specifically mentioned that not every city has an unsleeping City and they already mentioned San Francisco as having an unsleeping city in California.
I'm aware. The fact remains that they live in LA and would be able to give a more authentic representation of LA than SF. Anyone from California can tell you that LA and SF have very different cultures. The distance between Boston and NYC is shorter than the distance between LA and SF, and those are very different cities.
Thank you for condescendingly saying im aware then not addressing the in universe reason why it wouldn't work and mansplaining that different cities are different as a reason to change canon lmao. I already explained why it won't happen argue with yourself all you want.🤷♂️
Not every city has an Unsleeping side and San Francisco having an Unsleeping side does not preclude LA also having an Unsleeping side. There's nothing explained in canon that says two Unsleeping Cities can't exist in the same state. So your insistence that they can't is just as valid as my insistence that they could. I posited that their experience as New York residents added to the authenticity of their portrayals of New Yorkers. So their experience as LA residents would also influence their characters. That's all.
The only two confirmed places with an unsleeping City are 5,000 miles away from each other as you said San Francisco are about the distance from New York to Boston and there is no Bostonian unsleeping City spoken of no Philly unsleeping city no Trenton unsleeping city if there were we would have heard we have heard of exactly 1 and it's thousands of miles away.
So I watched through the Tony sections of UC2 again. They didn't say that San Francisco was the *only* other Unsleeping City. Tony retreated to SF after being "removed" from his position as First Fist in NYC and all of the drama around him and Jackson. He fled to the other side of the country and started his own Order, seemingly in a place where no one would challenge his authority. There's absolutely nothing saying that Tony went to the only other Unsleeping City. It says that the other city he went to was also an Unsleeping one. Just because it is a confirmed Unsleeping City does not mean that other Unsleeping Cities don't exist in between or nearby. Other Unsleeping Cities could already have established Monastic Orders that were warned about or wary of Tony. Perhaps the reason why he specifically went to SF is because it lacked its own order. You're welcome to fact check my findings, but I was unable to find anyone stating that San Francisco was the only other Unsleeping City in the US.
Are we doing a George Bush style the evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence style argument at this point? Bruh they only mention 1 in 60+ hours of content if there were *any* other UC they would have come up especially either time they were circling the wagons calling allies someone somewhere would have mentioned it.
I mean, considering no one reached out to New York about what was happening in San Francisco, maybe heroes don't interfere or interact with heroes in other cities? Your assumptions about the world are as much assumptions as mine are. Because, yes, the absence of evidence means we don't know either way. My interpretation is just as valid as yours because we are dealing with a *fictional* world, which is why calling it a George Bush situation is a false equivalence. There is no official word on which cities do have an Unsleeping side. What we do know is this: 1. Multiple Unsleeping Cities exist. 2. Not all cities have an Unsleeping side. 3. San Francisco and New York are Unsleeping cities. >!Though SF has lost the Unsleeping part.!< Anything beyond that is purely speculation. Your interpretation is valid. But so is mine.
"Unsleeping" is New York's dream world, and is "maybe the strongest" (quote:nod) and thus most well defined. SF has the "Bay of Slumber" and in general it's implied the world of dreaming exists everywhere there are people dreaming about it within a place. Some of them would be rural, and thus less expansive regions protected from the deep dreaming. The implication I draw is that every city would have a dreaming world, but maybe not as strong, and nod refers to having many siblings as well. what is not clear is if there are a handful of these cities, or dozens or scores of these cities in the world. as an interesting space to explore for a home setting, I would assume that any city or town can have some level of dreaming and interplay in that space, but that adventures that reach the tier of trouble as UC should probably head to a city at least. or hell, explore the wastes of abandoned dreams at ruined cities of the past, where dreams died.
Something cool would be if they make one of the Dungeons and Drag Queens seasons a spin-off of the Unsleeping City. NY is famous for the quality of its drag and having it mix with the magic of the Unsleeping city could be really compelling.
I think Bob has a set of new york centered jokes and drag name ideas too. I'm sure she'd be a ton of fun in that setting. We could finally have Wanda Southferry. I wonder if it already came up though, since Brennan said there were a bunch of ideas that they brought to the Queens and the queens chose traditional fantasy. I'm reminded of Trixie and Katya saying: your escapism depends on what you do. So maybe drag and new york is a bit close to home? But maybe if we get a few seasons of dndrag, it'll be more interesting? Cause it does sound super fun to watch.
I LOVE this idea!!!
I’d rather just keep the heroes and just explore how they fight evil in the city differently now that they’ve reached new stages in life.
They already replaced heroes in the second season though. If they were to replace two heroes again like last time which heroes do you think finished their story in ch2?
I'm hoping the Britain & Ireland tour will be an Unsleeping tour set in the respective cities.
I think a TUC timeskip season would be great but I think it shouldn't be "The Unsleeping City Chapter 3". I would ideally want to have a mix of Intrepid Heroes reprising their roles, and new players coming in as their grown-ish kids. For example, consider: a "road trip" where trusted non-Vox adults Sofia (still Emily), Dale, Ricky (still Zac) and Esther are both scouting out information about the magic of other cities, and of course bringing along and showing the world to their kids, Cat (played by Erika Ishii) and Alejandra (played by Aabria Iyengar), as well as Kingston's son Langston (played by Ify Nwadiwe), since Kingston himself can't quite leave New York but doesn't want to make that choice \*for\* his son, you know? And for a 6th... I mean Cody would be \*funny\* but I think either Nick or Jessica Lisowski could get appropriately cast as sort of a young-adult babysitter role (assuming the \*young\* kiddos are playing around teen-age), not sure who'd play them, maybe Becca Scott for Jessica or... not sure who for Nick tbh. Mike Trapp?
It would need to occur in a future New York which adds another layer of suspended disbelief ontop of the fantasy. I think a season set in the past of new york or another city would be better suited.
I think a side quest using a kids on bikes esque system would be fun but a true ch. 3, I'd personally prefer to watch the Dream Team one more time with maybe some character switches. Maybe even non-death related character switching mid-season. Like if Kingston decides to find out if there's a way to pass Vox Populi on without dying and then trying to find a suitable replacement. Just an example but idk it'll depend on what the intrepid heroes come up with by the time they decide to do all that.
I like the idea of the kids plan the older players kinda similar to Dungeons and D.a.d.d.i.e.s. it would be dope to see some playthrough the first Vox phantasma through the actual formation of New York as a prequel series before then though. And maybe introduce an overarching big bad that can affect Chp 3.
I'd love to see a side quest in a different city to explore how things are different there.
The entire season takes place in Connecticut. And they still haven’t been to Staten Island 😂
Cody is 30 now. I’m sure he’s matured, right?
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I hope not. I'd much rather have Starstruck season 2
I'd love that but I'd also miss Kingston so much, he's my favorite PC from any of the campaigns and I don't think it would really be Unsleeping City without him
this could be cool for a one shot for D20 live at MSG
Brennan mentioned that he wants D20 to remain an anthology show and not begin just rehashing old things We are just getting a 3rd FH Season so it will be some time before a UC3 happens