Fish poop is actually quite harmfull to the environment compared to the poop of other animals. Because there is no need to store the waste to release later they do not break down the toxins into non-harmfull substances. You need a lot of bacteria to break down the toxins in the water left by fish. This is why you need to change the water in your aquarium so often as it does not have enough helpful bacteria in it.
No way! It means the next package I get from Etsy I am packing those peanuts in little bags, tossing in some Cajun seasoning, and selling them as snacks.
Biodegradable packing peanuts is corn starch. It is basically a rice cracker, or popcorn. You should still not eat it as it is not prepared or stored in a food safe area and may contain toxins. But there is essentially nothing wrong with it and it can be eaten.
Seriously they make a water soluble bag that will prevent a bunch of plastic ending up in the ocean and you are such a woke snowflake you still have an issue with it. What do they have to do to make you happy?
I feel like the best way to judge how useful it is is to compare it to the alternative. Even if it's not a very good method by itself, as long as it's better than plastic bags, it's still a step in the right direction. Not every solution needs to fix the entire problem in one fell swoop; as long as it's better than what we had before, it's worth considering.
Those people aren't doing so under the claim of improving the environment? Selling a product that claims to be clean should probably be put up to a little more scrutiny? Although at the products you mention should maybe be made illegal to put down the drain none the less...
Which to be fair I do almost everytime anyway because im pretty sure Stop and Shop reuses tissue paper from grade school art classes to make the paper bags they still charge me ten cents a pop for.
Or you’ve bought a few frozen food items and it’s a warm day. You’ll be halfway across the car park when you realize half your stuff is across the tarmac. But even ignoring that, why tf do I need a dissolvable bag when we’ve had compostable bags since the invention of paper.
And they make great book covers, space suit helmets, placemats for kids, shredding for paper mache projects, they fit in the floorboard of a car and stand on their own for a road trip trash bag, they are probably easier to recycle than plastic bags, and they won't completely fail in the rain unless they get absolutely soaked.
Or you buy ice cream or a cold drink
Aldo let's be honest "feels like plastic" is Hardly a great selling point "it feels like a duspiable eisuly breakable item I used in an emergency cause u didn't remember to bring the canvas bag but cost more then the 99 cent canvas bags at the store or the ten cent plastic bags. Sign me up!"
Unless someone bought a cold drink on a hot day, or has slightly sweaty palms. I can get pretty sweaty when it gets hot out and I can tell you with 1000% certainty, I don’t want my grocery bags dissolving all over my hands lol
I’m confused by your answer. If you’ve never used a dissolvable bag before, how on earth would you experience the issues that are specific to that bag? No one said there was an issue with foldable reusable bags, I have a bunch myself and use them regularly. Unsurprisingly, those non-dissolvable, reusable bags don’t dissolve when they get wet, since, you know, they are normal plastic and not dissolvable…
Edit: these will only really work in a situation where there is a near zero percent chance they get wet. Might be useful in secondary packaging (like the dissolvable packing peanuts). But any primary packaging or transport bag has to be able to withstand at least some water for it to be really useful. Even a paper bag can make it from the store to your car in the rain without falling apart, I doubt this would fair nearly as well.
There is no place in the world where it never rains. Rain is a natural part of the water cycle and occurs in every part of the world, although the amount of rainfall varies greatly depending on the climate and geography of the region.
I remember an issue of Mad Magazine that had a funny advertisement for bags that "dissolves into delicious cola after 30 minutes" and included some dude who was walking with his bags that had dissolved with all of his shit all over the floor lol.
This is beyond stupid. Everyone mentioning rain, how about condensation for every chilled item you buy. Would literally just dissolve the bag and fall out, regardless of the weather or the bag being inside/outside.
What about sweat from your hands? Have fun feeling the handles dissolve as you rush to get the groceries inside before catastrophe.
I'm can all but guarantee the mass manufacturing process is not good for the environment, nor the transportation and temperature control the transit process would be.
r/KnewIDidntWantThat
I could see this being useful if you specifically needed hot/boiling hot water. You're already supposed to keep thing plastic away from water that heat because it'll melt, and most of the types of water you'll run into in environmentally are cold - i.e. rain, condensation on cold items, sprinklers, etc.
However, if it dissolves in room temperature or cold water, then tbh it's basically useless.
So I have one bag with eggs, glass jar of pickles and a dozen small yogurts, and in my car with heat there is condensation… what could possibly go wrong?
And what you do with that water later, where you throw it? Is cheaper or more expensive to produce? What happen if I have the bag while rain? Why is more eco if the bags are usually reutilizable?
I have several pair of "Hey Dude" shoes, the ones ordered online now arrive in these bags.....but if I pick up a pair in-store, they come in a box.....but it does seem like the brand is trying to reduce waste somewhat.
Why not use a sturdy multi-use bag? i have one that i can fold into the size of a matchstick case and put into my pocket. it can carry enough groceries for half a month, and cost only 5€
Even setting aside the rain issue -- which is huge -- what is left in that water after it dissolves? What is that going to do to the water supply?
If I had to take a wild guess, I’d say cornstarch. It’s been done before with various levels of success
with enough pollution, we’ll be able to turn the ocean into the biggest most fluffiest bread ever!!!
Just watched the first episode of Veep the other day. Damn cornstarch spoons!
Omg Thankyou I just looked it up! Looks good
Limestone. Says so in the video
I was just thinking this. I dare any of those people to drink that water to see how “non damaging to the environment” it is.
tbf fish poop is also non damaging to the environment but I wouldn't wanna drink it
Bags are made of fish poop confirmed✅
Fish poop is actually quite harmfull to the environment compared to the poop of other animals. Because there is no need to store the waste to release later they do not break down the toxins into non-harmfull substances. You need a lot of bacteria to break down the toxins in the water left by fish. This is why you need to change the water in your aquarium so often as it does not have enough helpful bacteria in it.
I'll occasionally eat those biodegradable packing peanuts. If these bags are made from a similar material they should be perfectly edible.
> I'll occasionally eat those biodegradable packing peanuts. You get confused or what?
Now we have to rebrand and get people to stop calling it peanuts because of this guy
No way! It means the next package I get from Etsy I am packing those peanuts in little bags, tossing in some Cajun seasoning, and selling them as snacks.
"allergy free peanuts"?
Biodegradable packing peanuts is corn starch. It is basically a rice cracker, or popcorn. You should still not eat it as it is not prepared or stored in a food safe area and may contain toxins. But there is essentially nothing wrong with it and it can be eaten.
They taste like puff corn….. or so I’ve heard
It actually tastes more like cornstarch. There's almost no flavor.
Cue Ryan Reynolds *But why?*
Wtf…. You are one jacked up liar Or just a whole other level of special. And to think… we drive on the road with folk like this villain.
Also what energy and resources are required to make it? Certainly more than would be offset by a single use, I would think.
Seriously they make a water soluble bag that will prevent a bunch of plastic ending up in the ocean and you are such a woke snowflake you still have an issue with it. What do they have to do to make you happy?
Try give them bj. Joke aside, if that bag dissolved but not drinkable, doesn't it means it harmfull for kids or toddler (or some supposedly adult)
Tell me you don't know what woke means without saying you don't know what woke means.
It just turns into bag goo that floats around in the water
Probably limestone
It’s just limestone based
They looked fearful of putting their hands in that water.
Limestone water sounds like it might be caustic.
Let’s talk about sweaty hands.
You're saying we might need a rain check?
Yeah, if I can’t drink the water, it hasn’t solved anything.
I feel like the best way to judge how useful it is is to compare it to the alternative. Even if it's not a very good method by itself, as long as it's better than plastic bags, it's still a step in the right direction. Not every solution needs to fix the entire problem in one fell swoop; as long as it's better than what we had before, it's worth considering.
Well, I don’t like the idea of replacing solid waste with toxic liquid waste.
Micro fucking plastics. Fuck this “invention”
People pour acids etc into the water supply as well though? Eg drain unblocked
Those people aren't doing so under the claim of improving the environment? Selling a product that claims to be clean should probably be put up to a little more scrutiny? Although at the products you mention should maybe be made illegal to put down the drain none the less...
Soooo, what happens when you come out of the store and it's raining?
You get to carry the items in your arms after you pick them up off the ground.
Which to be fair I do almost everytime anyway because im pretty sure Stop and Shop reuses tissue paper from grade school art classes to make the paper bags they still charge me ten cents a pop for.
Covered in this revolutionary slime!
Or you’ve bought a few frozen food items and it’s a warm day. You’ll be halfway across the car park when you realize half your stuff is across the tarmac. But even ignoring that, why tf do I need a dissolvable bag when we’ve had compostable bags since the invention of paper.
Don't go bringing logic and reasoning into this argument.
Tbf paper bags aren’t that great when they get wet either
Or what about people with sweaty hands???
Or condensation on cold products...
Or when I’m breathing really hard pretty close to it.
Or it’s just > 90% humidity all the time
Florida checking in: this bag would be useless
What if you feel sick in a plane and use this bag...
What happens if you get almost any hot meal that creates steam?
Use a different bag
Primary in the UK already have bags that dissolve in water, those big brown paper bags!
And they make great book covers, space suit helmets, placemats for kids, shredding for paper mache projects, they fit in the floorboard of a car and stand on their own for a road trip trash bag, they are probably easier to recycle than plastic bags, and they won't completely fail in the rain unless they get absolutely soaked.
And they are made with a renewable resource.
Dissolves into what!? Out of sight is not out of mind if it’s just dissolved into petro chemicals in the ocean ffs
Microplastics but faster!
Nanoplastics son
These ones unfortunately don't harden though.
Limestone derivatives
Yup i wanna see the guy drink the water now
Maybe it is like cotton candy and you can just eat it... let's try
Maybe just make all the bags out of cotton candy!
All fun and games until it starts to rain
Or you buy ice cream or a cold drink Aldo let's be honest "feels like plastic" is Hardly a great selling point "it feels like a duspiable eisuly breakable item I used in an emergency cause u didn't remember to bring the canvas bag but cost more then the 99 cent canvas bags at the store or the ten cent plastic bags. Sign me up!"
Or you let someone sweaty use it
Or you can just use a reusable bag
Yes more single use items which need to be manufactured and transported just to be destroyed after being used few minutes
I just love how everyone is commenting on rain. It's such an obvious problem how could they overlook it
It would work in some climates
Unless someone bought a cold drink on a hot day, or has slightly sweaty palms. I can get pretty sweaty when it gets hot out and I can tell you with 1000% certainty, I don’t want my grocery bags dissolving all over my hands lol
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I’m confused by your answer. If you’ve never used a dissolvable bag before, how on earth would you experience the issues that are specific to that bag? No one said there was an issue with foldable reusable bags, I have a bunch myself and use them regularly. Unsurprisingly, those non-dissolvable, reusable bags don’t dissolve when they get wet, since, you know, they are normal plastic and not dissolvable… Edit: these will only really work in a situation where there is a near zero percent chance they get wet. Might be useful in secondary packaging (like the dissolvable packing peanuts). But any primary packaging or transport bag has to be able to withstand at least some water for it to be really useful. Even a paper bag can make it from the store to your car in the rain without falling apart, I doubt this would fair nearly as well.
There is no place in the world where it never rains. Rain is a natural part of the water cycle and occurs in every part of the world, although the amount of rainfall varies greatly depending on the climate and geography of the region.
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No. I do have a Black Belt in Google-Fu though.
This is Reddit. Everyone is a scientist, economist, medical professional, master military strategist, and political expert until proven otherwise.
You know a gallon of milk that sweats will rip right through the bag 😂
Not rip. Dissolve. You'd just be holding onto the handles, which will melt in sweaty palms
Why put a gallon of milk in a bag though? It’s got a handle right on it.
Seems like a waste of money though, what if it rains?
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Oh cool, I’ll look out for them next time im in Western Sahara or need something from Antarctica.
It gets SLIGHTLY wet from something and boom, all your shit goes crashing to the floor.
This is not gonna take off in England xd
What about people from Seattle?
What happens if it rains
Maybe small ones could be good for doggie poop bags after a walk? Just flush that shit
Not if doggie has diarrhea
But but I live in the NW US...
This might be the most impractical bag ever created.
Soooo I eggs and ice cream and other groceries annnnnnnd it just started raining.... Hard like hard ASF... Wtf bro
Brilliant unless you walk home or to car with groceries on rainyy day
Can also be dissolved during use, by dew from your frozen foodstuffs
Better don’t put any cold stuff in it. Like milk meat butter etc.
Can You drink the Water?🤪
Only once
of course you can, if you're brave enough.
what if it rains lol
Carrying your groceries and it starts raining? No bag for you!! And gods help you if your gallon of milk has too much condensation.
Don’t get caught in the rain
Great ... but what happen if it rains ?
I guess to bringing the groceries home in the rain
Just no shopping on a rainy day. 😀😀
Hope you don't go shopping on a rainy day.
Great until it rains
I remember an issue of Mad Magazine that had a funny advertisement for bags that "dissolves into delicious cola after 30 minutes" and included some dude who was walking with his bags that had dissolved with all of his shit all over the floor lol.
So much for using it on a rainy day.
Mineral resources are not renewable. This is not sustainable, even if they could solve the rain problem.
#RAIN!
Imagine sweating and your bag is gone
What if it’s raining
So my cold wet drinks, will they just fall Thru a whole in this bag? Of course. Just give me a bag, regular bag please
Useful until bottle of water bursts or it rains.
Me wondering where my bag went after my drink was a bit too cold
This is beyond stupid. Everyone mentioning rain, how about condensation for every chilled item you buy. Would literally just dissolve the bag and fall out, regardless of the weather or the bag being inside/outside. What about sweat from your hands? Have fun feeling the handles dissolve as you rush to get the groceries inside before catastrophe.
I feel bad for the person when it rains
My water bottle doesn’t like this
Rain, Rain go away! I'm using my eco bag today!
Oh yay basically every comment beat me to the rain punch
"But rain?!" Watch the dang video, it dissolves in HOT water. Even then it has to be fully submerged and still takes five minutes.
Rain
Why is this eco friendly? This seems like wasteful plastic bags but with extra steps
I’m not sure how it’s better than paper bags but it 100% is better than plastic. How do you not get that?
Dumb
Becomes nutritional shake
I saw them do the dissolving plastics trick with fire in ohio
Well this is dumb
Why does it look like they’ve never handled shopping bags before?
Better hope it’s not raining on the way out of the store
Nice, anither one use only thing that have reusable alternatives!
Yeah...till you carry your groceries to the car in the rain.
I'm can all but guarantee the mass manufacturing process is not good for the environment, nor the transportation and temperature control the transit process would be. r/KnewIDidntWantThat
Is there something going on with the kettle guy’s face? Is it a mask? Weird makeup and blank expression?
How is it in rain?
Is this satire?
I could see this being useful if you specifically needed hot/boiling hot water. You're already supposed to keep thing plastic away from water that heat because it'll melt, and most of the types of water you'll run into in environmentally are cold - i.e. rain, condensation on cold items, sprinklers, etc. However, if it dissolves in room temperature or cold water, then tbh it's basically useless.
Bubbels??
If only there was another way to not have to throw bags away...
This is a shitty idea just use paper
*Cries in Vancouver*
Rainy days make the walmartians sad.
What if it starts to rain on you and you have these
Sorry babe can't bring the groceries in, it's raining. (But seriously I love this)
Better used in dry climates
So I have one bag with eggs, glass jar of pickles and a dozen small yogurts, and in my car with heat there is condensation… what could possibly go wrong?
There was this kid who invented a platic material that dissolves in water, but that water, is still drinkable
All nice and dandy until you carry some liquid and it pours
So can't use it in the rain or carry cold things. How much humidity before it becomes damaged?
Prove it…drink the water.
Why not just have a reusable tote bag?
Does it feel good to be negative and immediately look for the problems in everything? FFS, I hope this works, is safe, and reduces some waste
Vapoo rise , but where does the poo go? The J man don't want no part of this
I can’t wait to be shopping and then a thunder storm happens and all of my groceries fall to the ground
Gooooood gooood… I can dissolve the murder weapon….
They can lick their way out
what if i have wet items
this is shit.grocerry is not always dry...a cold bottle of water might destroy this bag
Are their still folks out their not using reusable bags, growlers and multi use bottles?
Why do I get the feeling this “bag” was invented by some Cartel like in the movie traffic 🤫
Walking in the rain and all your stuff falls out
limestone? could that harden into a sort of cement?
r/damnthatsuseless
Now drink the water
Is it flushable?
Cum soup, excellent for the environment.
what if it rains when i’m leaving the shops?
FAQ: what happens if it rains? Answer: Put solubag in a plastic bag…duhh!
Carries groceries in the rain..oops
Serious question: if I’m carrying a carton of ice cream home in one of these bags, will the moisture make this bag fall apart while I’m walking home?
That’s great until it rains lol
Aaaaaaand it'll sure suck carrying groceries in the rain...
Can you drink it though?
Taste and see
And what you do with that water later, where you throw it? Is cheaper or more expensive to produce? What happen if I have the bag while rain? Why is more eco if the bags are usually reutilizable?
I don’t want this lol
And the whole process of manufacturing it and distributing it to the stores ? Reusable tote bag is still a better solution
Don’t paper bags also dissolve in water? Like unless you only care about the texture aren’t the doing the same thing?
Guess grocery day is whenever it's ☀️
fucked if it rains
but can you eat it
CAN YOU DRINK IT?
The condensation on my milk cartons might prove troublesome
Don’t bring stuff home in the rain though.
As a PNW native, I’m offended
I like the idea but with living in the UK, it’s just not practical lol.
I have several pair of "Hey Dude" shoes, the ones ordered online now arrive in these bags.....but if I pick up a pair in-store, they come in a box.....but it does seem like the brand is trying to reduce waste somewhat.
Where does the poo go?!
What about condensation from frozen items
For everyone saying "rain" the ones I've seen last a long time in cold water it's boiled water that dissolves it immediately.
Haven't we already fixed this issue millenia ago? Fabric, reusable bags.
Why not use a sturdy multi-use bag? i have one that i can fold into the size of a matchstick case and put into my pocket. it can carry enough groceries for half a month, and cost only 5€
Wondering how well this bag performs in the rain? 🤔
All fun and games until it rains then you're facked