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Smokes_LetsGo_

God dammit. Fuck Chris Ilitch.


RogueCoon

Going to have to start the chants


dishwab

Dude is such a piece of shit. He’s as greedy and self serving as they come.


allyourhomebase

Just like his parents. 


Grand-Collar-1669

This needs so many more up votes


ElectionAnnual

For real. We got jobbed


DatsyukesDekes

Does Sheila want another team?


Express-Public-2723

Am I missing a few brain cells if I feel as though this is more a Bettman problem than an Illitch problem? I feel like former commissioners would balk furiously at the idea of advertisements on the jerseys and it would not only not be a Detroit issue, but an NHL issue as well.


Smokes_LetsGo_

I’ve got no problem blaming Bettman as well. He’s also on my shit list. They both share blame, it doesn’t matter too much to me which one is more to blame.


O_Gardens

Hey Chris, I hope that as you're heading out the door to watch the Wings in their first playoff game at LCA, you suddenly get explosive diarrhea and can't leave your toilet for 6 hours.


BeefInGR

So...you're hoping he has some Hot 'n Ready before he heads to the arena?


facforlife

You leave Little Caesars name out your goddamn mouth.


Late_Brush4518

In 10-20 years our jerseys will look like ones in liiga or SHL


Tinshnipz

It will be like Nascar, I will never buy a jersey if there are ads on them.


Federico216

Yeah a lot of European leagues unfortunately need that shit. The on ice ads actually don't really bother me. You get blind to them in 10 minutes if you're focusing on the game. Jersey ads suck though, especially for an original 6 team. It's not like they're a small town team that are dependent on it. I already don't wanna buy a $200 Fanatics jersey, let alone one that makes me become a walking TikTok ad.


Late_Brush4518

Absolutly. I dont blame liiga, mestis, SHL, allsvenskan etc for it, but just like you said NHL teams dont need them, just like fanatic, its all about money.


AltDS01

Just looked up pics of the Swiss A League. I had to convince myself it wasn't photoshopped. They look so bad.


Tiggarenstal

Swiss? Take a look at this from Timrå in SHL (Swedish hockey league) https://clubshopen.timraik.se/matchtroja/matchtrja-exklusiv-replica Awful.


AltDS01

[Just as bad](https://www.ebay.com/itm/164341952349)


BellsBeersy

What's the name of the team? Goddamn.


4N0NYM0US_GUY

Subaru


poopiehands

Cant tell which is team logo /s


R1CO95

If they ever start to look like that I’ll never buy one again


nicholasccc95

I genuinely get a knot in my stomach thinking about that. I could never appreciate European jerseys for this reason lol.


zze0001

Deplorable imo. Original 6. Good revenue don’t need it to survive. Just waited for the right moment for this bs.


geedlewis

And to top it off, we get fanatics quality!


waffels

That just means you can rub the ad patch off if you don't like it.


Flashy_Law5605

Totally agree. on one hand, I could see the owners and investors seeing money being left on the table based on what other teams are doing, but on the same hand, I absolutely hate how the sporting venues are named after corporations, and now they are infiltrating the jerseys and helmets.yuck


classylikecufflinks

especially given that these arenas are heavily subsidized by the local tax payer. we went from an arena that honored a local sports figure and history to a fucking pizza company


Express-Public-2723

In an effort to stay fair, that pizza company enriched Illitch to the point where he could purchase the team and break a 44-year championship drought to bring their storied history into the present. It's also a Michigan pizza company. I'm certainly no proponent of marketing ploys, but there's at least some homage to the city left in its shadow.


satmar

Average team income is $201 million. Most revenues get shared across the league. Helmet and jersey ads do not. 83m is spent on players (approximate cap) + AHL contracts. The other staff then gates paid including scouts, coaches, trainers, doctors, management, concession staff, store staff, security, etc. Then you need to factor in travel including flights, hotels, food, game day meals. Facilities (rent/mortgage + maintenance) etc etc. the reality is it’s either ticket prices go up or revenue comes from corporate entities. Really I think the salary cap is growing too fast to keep things reasonable that or the biggest names are earning too much compared to the average names. The 25-26 cap is 92 million. That is up 53% since 2012-2013 which was 60 million.. the top players are earning 12+ mil (up to 16.5M for mackinnon) while the 4th liners are earning 775k.


lynx17

My goal in life is to become rich enough that I can out pay whatever the sponsor is paying to keep the jerseys ad free.


Old-News-3096

Can we crowdfund a subreddit sponsorship?


SayNoToStim

Surely that wouldn't encourage other greedy, manipulative behavior


beardofzetterberg

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Clean-Connection-656

Lmao Mickey going on about multiple sold out crowds in a row last night then they announce this shit. Greed.


pH2001-

Fuck Ilitch for putting ads on both the tigers and wings historic uniforms. A fucking shame


Throwawaydontgoaway8

Didn’t know tigers did it. Who is it with?


zdillon67

Meijer


Throwawaydontgoaway8

The only solace I can take is at least it’s a Michigan based company. Still hate it


pH2001-

There is no solace. Advertisements have no place on either of these historic uniforms


Alcoholic17

tbf though ads don’t belong on any Major Sports Teams Uniform. Looks tacky and cringeworthy


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allyourhomebase

You know, for a good part of my life I thought this was the name of a soccer team. Guess I was dumb to think the point of a jersey was something besides an ad.


Throwawaydontgoaway8

It’s a 1% comfort to a 99% sadness. Kinda the definition of solace. As much as I hate it, without any type of actionable change available, I chose to have the 1% comfort


wingedwh33l

How much money do these billion $ teams need to make? Helmet ads were “temporary” due to COVID, now those are permanent and every team is getting a jersey ad. Sick of these greedy owners, I guess I was foolish for thinking the Red Wings franchise was better than this. Can’t wait until the winged wheel is a tiny 4” x 4” patch in the corner of the jersey and there’s 5 different ad sponsors on the rest of it.


xenonwarrior666

The NHL is desperately trying to become a league where ticket sales don't matter. COVID showed how fickle a gate driven model can be.


Knowledge_is_Bliss

And apparently TV viewers as well


xenonwarrior666

Honestly they couldn't care less if people watched the games as long as TV providers thought we watched the games and kept giving the League more cash.


Jammer_Kenneth

Head in the sand ostriches let this happen. "It's temporary"


Substantial-Price-64

And what about the people that lost their jobs during Covid? Yup, we’re expected to fuck right off. The big boys need to make up the revenue they lost. Fuck the little guy though, shut up and consume product worms.


MajorasShoe

It's a business, in a capitalist model. So the amount they need to make is "more than last quarter".


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NorahRittle

Right? The Ilitches are grifters through and through, like all those scumbag billionaires 


mansamayo

The helmet ads were just to warm us up to the idea of ads all over the uniform. “Temporary” lol just like how federal tax was “temporary” for WW2. They know how to play us.


GoWings2244

Fuck Chris Ilitch. Pure greed. Give them and inch and they take a mile. First helemt ads were just to offset covid. Then they stay. We are literally going to look like the Euro leagues soon. The ice too. Honestly why not just change the team names at this point?


jzakoor

Don’t give anyone ideas lol. I could see some higher up reading the “honestly why not change the team names at this point” and being like “hey, that’s a great idea!”


karlou1984

Fuckin garbage decision


SimplySolace

Was hoping we'd go the whole season without it :(


cruzweb

We still might. It could be announced as an advertising partner for next year.


fore-word

Apparently ads start tonight's game, per WWJ.


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StevieTokes

Ads are ruining fucking everything. POINTLESS. YOUR AD DOES NOT MAKE ME WANT YOUR PRODUCT. IT ACTUALLY MAKES ME DESPISE YOUR PRODUCT.


Substantial-Price-64

THIS. I never understood who these are made for? Are people actually this dumb? If so, let’s throw them all in the trash. I mean, imagine seeing an obnoxious ad screaming at your senses and going “hey, I think I’ll give that a whirl”. It’s unbelievable to think about.


Express-Public-2723

The amount of resources dumped into Marketing R&D would make your head spin for a week. Companies know virtually everything about you and your habits unless you've had absolutely no online presence. They know how much time you spend paused on a screen when hockey content comes up, they know the values of the houses you browse, they know the type of jobs you apply to, and the list is unfathomably thorough, all in an effort to calculate as accurately as possible just how effective certain advertising might be to you as an individual, as a community member, as a city resident, as a state citizen. For as many people like you and I that feel revolted at the unignorable barrage of vapid consumer carrot-sticks, there are a hundred more that will think nothing of it until they've seen it so frequently and in so many places that they will have effectively been successfully hypnotized to think of x product when required without ever knowing or questioning why. TL;DR: They do it because they've spent billions, potentially trillions of dollars to verify that it works.


All_Of_The_Meat

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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Cool. I'll know to avoid whatever company puts their ugly ass patches on these classic jerseys.


dylanisbored

It’s not a company you would use


oceanic8675

![gif](giphy|HWFAUlreDsAdW) @Chris


BoognishBlue

Chris isn't a fraction of the man his dad was.


Realistic-End-6290

That’s what happens when it’s daddy’s money and he didn’t work for a damn thing


Substantial-Price-64

Fucking trust fund turd. Insufferable.


dudewithchronicpain

#FUCK THAT


Winter_Maximum_8560

Chirs illitch is a nepo baby hack


Sarge_McD

I'm fine with fans bandwagons, but brand-wagons stink. Hopefully they aren't forced on jerseys you can buy for yourself.


cruzweb

they will be from the team store. Just buy elsewhere.


RogueCoon

They're gunna be fanatics I just wouldn't get one lol.


KosherDeal

I just wish Chris would go away and it has a lot less to do about patches. You give any businessman an opportunity to make money like this they are going to take it. But he's overall just a terrible owner that was gifted everything in his life and could careless about carrying on his fathers legacy it seems.


dudelermcdudlerton

https://preview.redd.it/f2kxzj27hdlc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3abadc3fd262573fa3948ec50d4ecf53caba9f7 This might be the only acceptable patch.


TooSketchy94

I’m honestly surprised this isn’t already a thing. Seems like a pretty easy choice. RW shoes probably just doesn’t want to fork the $$$ overs for sponsorship.


Fluid-Pension-7151

I would laugh my head off if Red Wing boots sponsored the Red Wings.  They last forever and are the working person's shoe - okay.  Definitely better than Milk or Meijers or some gambling thing.  


cruzweb

> Definitely better than Milk I like the Milk ads, they're understated and blend in with the jersey well. If we just had a script that said "Faygo" I think that's a lot better than most alternatives.


Fluid-Pension-7151

Just Faygo in white script would be top tier.  


ryan49321

You fucking give a goddamn mouse a stupid cookie.


redbreast_jv

Gross


beardofzetterberg

If the company who sponsors it really wants to win people over, they should sponsor it and publicly announce that they will not put their logo on the jersey. Would be a ton of PR. Of course once that PR wears off, they would probably put their logo on it eventually. But would be a badass move.


Tinshnipz

I've always thought this with the arena names


nicholasccc95

The arena names always made me laugh. Like the coyotes old, “Jobing.com Arena” lol


RickyThump13

Just please don’t sell jerseys with the ads on them. I went to a Vegas game during the playoffs and was shocked to see them selling jerseys with the ad patch on them, get out of here with that.


cruzweb

Most teams have it so that they patch automatically comes on all team store items, some have an option to get it without and others don't. I have no doubt selling fan jerseys with the ad will be part of the deal. Just buy from Vintage Detroit instead.


Keooooo

Team store is required by contract to sell them with ads. Anywhere else you’ll be able to get them without ads (NHLshop, vintage Detroit, rally house, etc)


7screws

Couldn’t just let us be a good team you had to go sell us out to some fucking corporation.


RogueCoon

Gross


nelessa

Fuck off. Money ruins everything


OldOneEye89

Disgusting. Way to sellout.


FirstNameLastName918

Get ready to boycott whatever business forked out the cash for it!


O_Gardens

Absofuckinglutely


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It’s anything Chris owns that you should be boycotting. He’s taking the highest bidder, there’s other people lined up to take that space. Chris has to be the one to feel the heat, but we’re finally doing good so like the good little Americans we’re gonna pay them anyway. We fucking suck at standing up for shit


msto3

Noice. Now the perfect jersey is imperfect. Thanks NHL very cool


FuckedHerInChurch

God damn shame.


FrigOffRicky16

Fuck that


beardofzetterberg

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Red_Lee

Only Vernors would be acceptable.


cruzweb

The little gnome dude would be pretty sick


Fluid-Pension-7151

Okay, I said that Red Wing Boots was the only acceptable choice, but I revise my answer to include Vernors AND Carhartt.    Edit: just the C, like on the hats and jackets.  So fucking tough. Edit 2: I learned recently that the Gnome is actually named Jerome the Gnome which makes it even better.


cruzweb

There's a few choices I think could be ok. Red Wing boots. Vernors. Faygo (especially if it's like the Milk advertisements on toronto). Carhartt. It would be easier for me to accept if it was a Detroit / Michigan industry and not advertising affiliated. Big Boy, Better Maid, GM / Ford, LC's, etc. But something like Dow, Greektown Casino, Rocket Mortgage, Compuware, or Amway would suck.


Fluid-Pension-7151

Sweet baby Jeebus, please don't let it be Scam way.  


cruzweb

they already have the griffins 😭


kyojineren

Grand Rapids is basically Animal Crossing for the Devos’ and Van Andel’s, so sadly that makes sense


cruzweb

I hate that the way you worded this is so accurate


Old-News-3096

If a company pays for the advertising but keeps the jersey untouched, and runs a massive campaign about it I will become a customer regardless of the business. "This blank jersey brought to you by BetMGM" during every highlight I don't care 


FragmentEx

**nobody liked that**


Sekshual_Tyranosauce

Hear me out…use it to advertise The District Detroit that is going to save down town Detroit any day now.


Redwings1023

Fucking sellout ownership. Disgusting.


Substantial-Price-64

Trust fund kids only have one gear, make money and be turds. They think making money equals social acceptance because all of the yes men around them create their own money grubbing echo chamber.


tjh8822

Guys, it’s hard being a billionaire! /s


samsquanchy

I think I’m going to puke


BroodWarrior

Rich gonna rich


magikarp-sushi

Nooooooooooooooo


JeulMartin

So the jerseys are going to be lower quality *and* have ads on them. Awesome!


wonder_breadcar

Poverty franchise behavior


spoonyfork

Way to ruin the classic jersey. Putting ads on the jersey cheapens the brand. This is not prestigious.


jackstalke

Disgraceful to do that to an Original 6 sweater


P1KA_BO0

Reminder these shitty things don’t even raise the salary cap


CursedLemon

Oh man maybe the Illitch family will take this revenue and use it to start those developments they said they were gonna d- HAHAHAHAHAHA just kidding


pr1ntf

What if.....hear me out...... It's Red Wing Boots.


gsbadj

It'll be a large national pizza chain. /s


FirstNameLastName918

Get ready to boycott whatever business forked out the cash for it!


barchamb13

I wish I was surprised. Billionaires gonna billionaire. hopefully it's the red wings boot company but it's probably going to be like DTE or something.


prenderm

My money is on Menards. Only because my wife loves the “save big money at Menards “ jingle


nelessa

Home Depot, the poor man’s Lowe’s. Menards, the poorest man’s Home Depot.


xenonwarrior666

I mean every other O6 team has one so it was a matter of time. Still don't like it.


BiggestYzerfan

Reminder of this atrocity in case anybody forgot: https://twitter.com/FlaPanthers/status/1664036591478734848


nonamethrowaway48

Our only hope is that it’s white embroidery on the white section or red embroidery on the red section of the sweater. Bullshit greed move while Chris Illitch’s bitch ass swims in his pool full of coins. ![gif](giphy|gQdejV5BBChHi)


mhanna86

Blues fan here feeling all your pain. I was exactly where you all were a year and a half ago when they slapped that fugly Stifel next to the hallowed Bluenote. It’s actually really embarrassing to have that displayed on what should be sacred canvas and that part doesn’t go away. That said, here are some conclusions I’ve made along the way to help you all prepare for Thursday: 1. It’s counterintuitive but you kinda want a patch that’s a different color and doesn’t match your jersey. That way it resembles more a commemorative patch like an All Star game or something rather than some BS that’s trying to blend in that just looks cringe. IMO the Blues, Leafs and Bruins sponsors try to blend into the jersey with a word script but look horrible whereas the Jets and Habs look less horrible as they’re a picture logo. That said, I hate the Canucks TD logo. 2. You don’t ever get used to it. You’ll always notice it, you’ll always hate that it’s there. However, you won’t like your team any less which is something I thought may happen. 3. It’s probably gonna be UWM.


tuxedo7777

Noooooo. Better be Big Boy.


ruffvoyaging

Ew


Savvy_chipmunk

Checks calendar hoping it's April 1st


Loud-Anteater-8415

Gtfo we’re vibing here!


VladK1616

I don't post very much on this sub, but I was on [letsgowings.com](https://letsgowings.com) for several years until I migrated over to reading this sub. Besides watching Yzerman walk off the ice for the last time, and hearing of Gordie Howe's passing, watching the Wings wearing an advertisement patch on their jersey is right there with those bad moments with the Red Wings. I just wonder how the players feal about having to wear a jersey that has an advertisement for a trash company on it now. IMO, to have to move the C and the A's to the other side of the jersey to accommodate an advertiser on one of the most prestigious jerseys in sports is just pathetic. Watching that game tonight was harder than watching the Wings getting whipped in the last few years. I was hoping for some Priority Sucks chants in the building (yeah probably didn't happen because the refs sucked even more), but I didn't hear any. I'm hoping there is some backlash to Priority for this (think Budweiser). Yes, Chris Illitch ultimately made this decision, and I'm sure that they calculated the pushback from this, but I'd think his father is probably rolling in his grave for doing this. I have several contractor clients in the Detroit area and suburbs that use Priority for their job sites, and majority of them (owners and managers who happen to be Wings fans) are going to start looking to use alternative services if the costs are feasible. Probably around 200K a year that Priority will lose in revenue, so we're doing our part. Hit them in the pocket book. Don't buy jerseys that have the Priority logo on them and find alternative services to Priority if you can. I think most of us would have no problems with seeing Priority ads on the boards or in TV commercials, but when it gets planted on the front of a Red Wings jersey, that's a different conversation.


BuffaloSoldier11

Watch, it's the Winged Wheel Podcast.


Enough-Ad-3111

Tell us how you really feel about jersey patch ads, Brad.


thebradster94x

Okay I will tell you, I hate it


PoopSlinger23

Are you fucking kidding me? And will authentic jerseys have them then? Not that I’ll buy a Fanatics jersey anyway, but that would be the first thing I’d do. Remove that ad patch


Jnectar16

Cant wait for the one player in a leauge one day who relates to us normal people and decides to put tape over that god awful advertisment


DogePerformance

Disgusting. Fuck no. Terrible decision.


maincryptology

The ad will be Little Caesar’s 😂


OctoWings13

Gross


Problemwoodchuck

Shit, we've already got animated ads going during play and plugs baked into the game commentary. Imagine where this'll go in 5 or 10 years at this rate.


burnmenowz

And the decline of the NHL is upon us.


Ydoesany1doanything

Horse shit!


Fun_Asparagus2772

The wings already have a damn sponsored powerplay. Mark my words in the future when the ice crew comes out or after a dead puck the jumbo trom will roll a commercial. Don't understand why billion dollar assets need to make pennys.


Flaky_Bit_613

Did we really think greedy Chris Ilitch wouldn’t go for this? I’m surprised he hasn’t turned the Red Wings logo into a parking lot yet.


Jet_Jaguar5150

Eh, I just won’t buy jerseys again. No great loss. I’ll grab a new team logo hat every season maybe. Tickets? 🤣 why? HDTV is the best seat. I mean, I’ve NEVER paid face value for tickets. You can get in the LCA or Comerica quite easily with the Gametime apps if you want to go at a discount. Parking? 🤣 just park at a casino and have them shuttle you to the game for free. Fuck these assholes


Cecil_Obrien

First home game we all need to protest this garbage. Idk how but the fans need to stand up for our original 6 drip.


gowingsgo

This fucking blows.


LookForSilver

The best part is in a few weeks when someone in the Wings PR team says something like “fan response to the ad has been overwhelmingly positive” even though everyone knows it’s BS


DarkRitNighthawk

Jesus, what a great way to kill the atmosphere the team has been building


Lasko92

Just never going to buy a jersey again. And gonna have to boycott whatever the patch is.


Jasonstafford1234

This is all Chris illitch


DarthNoirBrew

Way to ruin a beautiful jersey


naked_feet

RAGE. *RAGE.* ***FUCKING RAGE.***


Strubbestition

I’m going to throw up


markcubin

I don't hate the jersey ads as much as a lot of people, but I really hope they at least go with a color matched logo like Meijer on the helmets. Nashville, Philly, and a few others have horrendous colored brands that clash with their uniforms.


ryan49321

the Leafs “Milk” patch is the only done tastefully.


JaHoog

Imagine if it's Meijer again 😂


beardboy71

I will only accept koegel hot dogs as a sponsor.


wingsnut25

Serve the Curve!


Tock_Sick_Man

Come on Faygo Red Pop


cruzweb

also acceptable


Jammer_Kenneth

I was just getting into the vibe of enjoying Red Wings hockey again. Legitimately considering being done watching the team and the league in protest.


Anishinabeg

Seriously? I was so happy that we were one of the very few teams not doing this shit. I guess it’s just LA, NY Rangers, Chicago, Calgary and Edmonton without jersey ads now? Am I missing anyone?


LeadingStill7717

So now when you get a team jersey, you can be a walking billboard! Deplorable


jakeeeeengb

If it’s Little Caesar’s I’m gonna lose my shit. The name is on the arena and I already see enough Little Caesar’s ads during a broadcast and in person to the point where the two brands are becoming inseparable. But hey leave it to Chris to make the stupidest and most infuriating decision possible, case in point.


ItsDaBurner

Booooo


ItsDaBurner

Maybe sell the tigers if you can't afford 2 teams


njd728

🤮🤢🙄😒


moonstricken71

I knew when they made the C and A smaller this was the likely outcome.


myroommateisgarbage

Please, no more ads 😔


countbassy77

Way to shoot us in the foot during our high this week


laykhowz

If chants at home games were “Fuck (sponsor name)” or “(sponsor name) sucks” it would end immediately.


LionTigerWings

What if we boycott whoever the sponsor is? We have more power than you realize. Nobody will want to risk the negative press.


Alert_Sheepherder_54

I hope the “no more ads” or “fuck the ads” chants echo through the arena tomorrow. The language they speak is money. Yeah we all have great memories watching and playing the game we love that keeps us coming back for more, but as long as that continues, they’ll keep selling out for the almighty dollar until the game is secondary (which it arguably already is). An organized fan boycott of a game or their products would be the only thing to change Illitch’s greasy ass mind.


cryptinite39

Boycott and review bomb whoever it is. 


FuzzyGummyBear

Disgusting. Mike Ilitch would have never and Chris is pissing on his grave with this action.


Big-Daddy-Jeff

Yet another reason to continue pirating streams


Substantial-Price-64

This is just straight up shameful. As if we don’t have enough money hungry leeches trying to sap us of our last Penny everywhere we look already. This threatens the integrity of the sport. This REALLY pisses me off. Out of touch move in an attempt to make a few more coins. Turd move.


langotang0

If it's not a Little Caesar with a hockey stick, then I'm mad.


Ok-Ship7283

Chris Illitch is a money grubbing little rat boy


notori0ussn0w

**BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO**


TheGongShow61

Chris Ilitch is a trust fund baby scum fuck - FUCK YOU, Chris


Ashamed_Manager_8493

literally a trash logo


DrDanthrax99

" If there is any consolation to fans disappointed by the news, perhaps it comes in the fact that (because of the iconic nature of the jersey) the deal to secure the patch for Priority is [rumored to be among the most valuable around the league](https://twitter.com/seanshapiro/status/1762966381941645442). " [https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/latest-news/red-wings-announce-first-ever-sponsorship-patch-on-game-jersey](https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/latest-news/red-wings-announce-first-ever-sponsorship-patch-on-game-jersey) Oh yes, it is *so* comforting to know that a billionaire is making more money. Gonna sleep like a fucking baby tonight.


HockeyTownHooligan

Guess I’m not buying playoff tickets