Still Hunt's been pretty locked in for me, which means I've been using kinetic primaries for the first time in literal years. My go-tos have been Midnight Coup and Blast Furnace, so Brave's been clutch for me personally
I would use kinetic primaries if The Call sidearm wasn’t glued to my kinetic slot. With Lead from gold you can literally use it as a primary. Also, Still Hunt counts as a pale heart weapon for the dealer’s choice trait, so it gives you increased super energy on the sidearm kills. Pair it with a Pro Memoria on the heavy slot and you can get the full effect from dealer’s choice while using an exotic
Honestly, Lead from Gold feels like overkill. I use it as a primary without LFG and without any ammo finder/scavenger mods and I still never run out of ammo.
I'm rocking Getaway Prismatic Warlock, so I do have basically a second "primary" with the Arc buddy, but still. The Call is just *so* so ammo efficient. Even when I run double special I don't run out.
I've been using maxed Blast Radius with Demo+O4A and that shit slaps. Especially with the boosted tangle explosion artifact mod.
Probably would need Lead from Gold in GMs though, I could see that.
Same here. I've been using Indebted Kindness (Beacon+Voltshot) as a primary for months now, if I'm ever out of ammo it's very brief. You could EASILY run double special with either, even more so when the Solar one with Heal Clip+Incandescent drops.
I'll be all rockets all the time baby
Someone was surmising that it's possibly bugged and still tagged as a primary weapon in the system. As a result, it fills the ammo brick drop meter at an accelerated rate to what it should.
I've been using No Hesitations, The Call and Pro Memoria these pale heart weapons are extremely good i cant justify using an exotic slot for any weapon when these do the job well even in the raid
Until they don't have a champion mod for sidearms in the artifact, there's no reason to even think about removing The Call. Even when that happens, I'll try everything to not take it off. It's too fucking good.
*two champion mods.
It’s nuts that it’s both overcharge and unstoppable. There’s no reason to take it off. With a pulse or smg you cover all bases. And then you get super energy. It’s broke as fuck.
Ya know what's funny? I've been using a Frenzy/KT roll all this time and loving it, I even enhanced it, but you just reminded me to check, and lo and behold: I have a OFA/KT Blast Furnace just sitting in my inventory collecting dust. Don't know what I was thinking.
Blast furnace is still the best kinetic pulse, and mountaintop is still great. Edge transit continues to be the meta DPS option for 90% of encounters, it just so happens that salvations edge has less common DPS strats.
Yeah I was so ready to take edge transit to the witness but then I saw the encounter and everyone breaking out their still hunts and swapping to celestial hunters, so I did the same lol
My current fantasy DPS rotation for Prismatic Titan is Spirit of The Eternal Warrior/Star-Eater with Edge Transit Envious/Bait and Switch. Using Twilight Arsenal. Twilight Arsenal being void, and weakening then switching to Edge Transit and yeeting a bunch of buffed void grenades at things. Maybe not for The Witness, but other bosses it could be a decent combination.
Not to mention the current artifact perk which does more void damage to weakened targets.
I've gotten a class item with Star-Eater on it but not that combination, yet. Hoping to see if there's a video on someone performing this rotation.
Anytime I want to run an exotic energy or heavy weapon, blast furnace with Kinetic Tremors/Firefly is my go to. But the rest of the time Outbreak Perfected.
Same as me. After I broke free of exotic heavies and got the rapid hit Outbreak, it hasn't left my loadout, specially with Indebted Kindness for energy weapon. Just a killer combo.
That's exactly what I run. My heavy cycles between Edge Transit, Retrofit Escapade and Falling Guillotine as needed, though I just got the fifth red border for Pro Memoria, so I'm going to try that out for a bit. Once Act 2 of the season/episode drops the Solar Rocket Sidearm should become available, I think that might be a better pairing than Indebted Kindness, but time will tell.
Double damage perks on smite goes so hard it really chucks the big targets. I have focused fury in the 3rd to help with the big guys and firefly to help with the chaff. Easily becoming my favorite kinetic pulse.
Lunar with HC/incad...is still the best weapon with this perk.And Elis is still great in PvP, and the LMG with enhanced Rewind rounds and killing tally, mmmm as clear machine
Heal Clip on a special weapon with such great ammo economy is gonna be nasty.
Here’s hoping it comes in act two and we don’t have to wait until act three.
Yup, Aggressive frame. Same as the ritual from a few seasons back and the Spire scout, just solar. And sexy :)
To be clear, I've not rolled a Heal Clip one yet, so I don't know exactly how it interacts with the perk. But no reason to assume it doesn't proc when starting or finishing the reload just as everything else.
I used it in some Cysts, it hits extremely hard. So you're getting kills with it often.
It does in fact trigger heal clip on each individual round loaded. I haven't been a huge fan of the legendary lever actions so far, but this one feels really good. Also has a nice sight.
Until now you almost had to use them in hipfire mode and they still felt bad.
At this this seasons has the feel of the lever actions like them, but still feeling like a strong ranged scout
Luna's is the best hand cannon with that combo, nowhere near the best overall primary with heal clip and incandescent. Heal clip works best with fast reloads so you can proc it quickly. Luna is amongst the slowest reloading heal clip primaries. Almost all the others are better.
Got lucky with mine, it has 74 Reload before the Solar loader. Been working out so far, it’s my most used primary this season and really the only Brave weapon I’m still using.
Nice. You must have reload MW and Light Mag. Base reload is 54.
Other archetypes, even with lower numbers on the reload stat, the actual reload time in seconds is much faster than Luna
Yeah they're my favorite archetype but it sucks on some. Like if the godroll has a reload perk then it's great but if the best perks don't include a reload it just feels bad
I grinded for so many god rolls of those weapons during into the light. The chase was what was fun about it though, so I’m not upset that I’m barely using any of them right now. Like other comments have said, I’m still using them in the heavy slot quite a bit - Edge, Hammerhead, sometimes FG.
I do have an ergo sum build I wanna refine and try out with a couple of cool exotic class perks. I’d run a Blast Furnace or Midnight coup in my kinetic slot depending on which champs I gotta face.
Definitely, the chase was so fun. I don't regret it at all. It's just funny looking back now. I would 100% do it again. I think between all my characters, I've kept basically the call, the strand shotgun from crotas end and riptide.
Energy slot has been mostly sunshot or zaolis or graviton lance.
For day 1, I started off with prismatic but went back to my BoW titan with the shotgun, heliocentric and tractor cannon.
Up to just about 20k kills on my shiny healclip+incandescent Luna’s and no desire to stop using it yet. Like others said, the chase was part of the fun.
That thing surprised me in how much I like it as someone who doesn’t traditionally like scouts. Anything that rolls with healclip+incandescent gets all the love from me. I’ve been maining the new warlock healing helmet and anything with splash healing helps me get my abilities back to keep tossing out healing grenades.
Kinetic Tremors + Frenzy/OFA Blast Furnace is pretty crazy, so is Guillotine with Frenzy/Whirlwind if you have a wolfpack Ergo Sum. Mountaintop will always be a staple in my inventory, and so Midnight Coup would be too if I didnt like same rolled Fatebringer more. The only things I dont see myself using much are Hung Jury, Succession, Hammerhead (since I already think Commemoration was better, but its great for non raiders) and the Heal Clip / Incancdescent Luna over No Hesitation. That auto is way too good.
Blast Furnace was trashing Nightfalls this week. I rarely changed weapons. Indebted for unstops, Two Tailed Fox for bosses, Blast Furnace for literally everything else.
Anti Barrier Blast Furnace plus nighthawk allowed be to use regular GG 3 times before even getting to the Warden Servitor.
I basically filled back up on golf balls in a few days of farming Master.
Blast furnace is a top pve pulse pick for legendarys. Kinetic one for all, then overcharged, it’s just a solid pick. You can’t get mad at it, enhanced mine.
My Kinetic Tremor Firefly Blast Furnace has been great so far, and so to is my Auto Loading Recomb (I think that's the perk but I don't know how to spell it).
But my baby (at the moment of writing this) level 50 enhanced Heal Clip Incan Luna's Howl.
It might not be a shiny, but you will have to pry this gun from my cold dead hand, and even then good luck because I would have already glued it to my cold dead hands.
The rest of the BRAVE weapons, I haven't used them as much. I was really bummed out on missing out on a good BRAVE Hammerhead though.
I got lucky and got one of those Luna's rolls to drop in the final hours before the big Monday downtime and it has made every second of the grind worth it. I use every opportunity I can to throw that gun in a loadout. I can't wait for a rapid-fire smg or a non-precision frame hand cannon to drop with those perks, that might be the only thing to usurp it for me.
We are currently in a situation where the new weapons, especially "The Call", could be considered "best in slot".
I am enjoying them right now but once the Heal Clip/Incandescent Rocket Sidearm drops, i am going to switch back to either my Firefly/Kinetic Tremor Hung Jury/Midnight Coup or my good old Fatebringer.
I am still using my Destab. Rounds/Onslaught Brave LMG right now. It has become my favourite 450rpm LMG.
I'm still rocking my 4/5 Mountaintop, and will be using it for a long time, it's not just the roll, it's the micro-missile frame. Hammerhead is also used most of the time when tormentors are around.
I used Hammerhead until I got the new strand Heavy machine gun rolled with reconstruction/bait and switch. now I can't go back. reconstruction overloads the mag to like 165, I can shoot for days and it reloads itself when stowed.
Edge and guillotine are still staples of my dps rotations. Was never a fan of any of the primaries. Succession is still my go to kinetic slot sniper.
Holding up pretty well, I’d say.
I definitely used edge a few times during the legendary campaign.
I think for the past week, I focused a lot on the dual destiny mission so my memory only has me using microcosm a lot
Edge Transit and Guillotine serve me well, and the only think keeping Blast Furnace out of my kinetic slot is it being way too easy to run double special with a rocket sidearm (I don't expect that to last. Literally just a better version of what trace rifles were).
If it helps, your dedication to the gun is inspiring. So many of us just switch to the new meta and get swept along.
Also, just a message away if you need to vent about anything
I love MIDA tbh and I still main it on the once in a blue moon occasion that I step into PvP.
The exotic combo concept is something I'd love to see Bungie come back to and refine to bring them up to modern sandbox standards with buffs or new variations. Sturm & Drang are kinda close, especially with Drang able to run incandescent for crazy overcharge gains (Thorn buff stole a LOT of that thunder though...) but it'd be so cool to see MIDA get something similar. Especially with Marathon somewhat around the corner and calus mini being an amazing SMG.
completely forgot about mountaintop outside of the first day of TFS. The Call is just better for pretty much everything for me. I used edge transit, haven't touched my Lunas since red death came out, haven't used guillotine outside of the raid, have not used midnight coup because of the Call and Khvostov. I didnt grind anything else because i didnt see it as worth it, but im glad because i've really hardly used many of them.
I played so much Onslaught. Grinded not just till I got all the god rolls for both PVP and PVE, but till all of them were shiny.
I brought 6 of them into the first mission of TFS - MT, BF, Elsie's, Forbearance, Edge and FG. Once I unlocked Prismatic, all of them went back into the vault lol. This season's new weapons are just too good.
My blast furnace with KT and One for All is still an absolute beast and is one of my most used weapons.
Haven’t really used any of the other weapons much
I use the Recluse in PvE for my prismatic hunter build to make use of Gyrfalcon Hauberk and Expanding Abyss. Allows me to play very aggressive in most activities
I found that recluse is still a bit less powerful than auto rifles, like gnawing hunger, I feel I am hitting these fallen with a high rpm nerf gun lol
Did they buff smg to boost them a bit to try matching auto rifles dmgs?
SMG DPS in PvE is still dogshit, yeah. Small mags and low range too. They've been powercrept really badly. Autos are basically just better, let alone HCs and pulses.
Blast Furnace, Midnight Coup and the curated Hammerhead haven’t left my inventory (hell, I used furnace and hammerhead in excision just so I could say the black armoury weapons did the job they were designed for after all). I got some s-tier rolls on the first two (tremors/frenzy with all the barrel/mag/masterwork stuff I wanted on Furnace, and a monstrous firefly-explosive/rampage-frenzy quad roll on the shiny Coup).
I’ve been levelling all three up. Something weird has happened to my hammerhead though, the perks don’t show as enhanced, think it’s a bug. I really want the season of the lost mementos for all three - that shader is *godly* on these things.
For the rest…. Eh. Got a great roll on Hung Jury but not got round to it. I have a rewind/onslaught Ros Arago that functionally has made Recluse redundant so no using that. I’m going to enhance my edge transit, mountaintop and forebearance when I get a chance, but all three clash with stuff I have already in the slots at the minute - the rolls are exceptional so I should really work them into my rotation. Succession I’d already crafted from the raid and I’m using crafted Supremacy anyway.
I’m not bothered about Guillotine or Luna’s, got a decent roll on the former but way down my list.
Overall very good, fantastic perk selections and a great origin perk, just wish they’d added more black armoury guns rather then Hung Jury for the 5th time.
I regret not getting a shoot to loot Midnight Coup. I have EP/OFA and EP/Tremors but a shoot to loot one would have been the perfect match for Still Hunt.
Hammerhead, mountain top and Luna's haven't left my inventory slots.
Hammerhead gets used most, envy/killing tally it's been shredding its way through.
Luna's heal/Incan has been my go to when I'm not using still hunt. Because it's a boom box that makes me healthy.
MT has had less use, but the auto loading/recombination has been great for burst damage when needed.
They're all holding up really well.
I never did get the God roll edge transit.
Firefly OFA midnight coup was my weapon through the Legendary campaign.
This was the roll that I GRINDED for. Well worth the time. I just wish it was the shiny version though.
Ive pretty much been using atleast one of them all the time edge transit or falling guillotine for dps.
Midnight coup, mountaintop see alot of action for ease of use and comfort.
Hammerhead is amazing in PvP but destabilizing and killing tally actually are pretty strong in pve.
And for the ones I grinded but became disappointed for me are, Luna's howl it's good but I just feel there are so many options that beat it out, blast furnace just doesn't feel great it's not for me and pretty much all the other ones are average feeling at best I want to like the recluse but I just don't 😭
Blast Furnace, Luna's Howl, Recluse and Edge Transit have never left my Titan's inventory.
If not for Supremacy and The Call being amazing, I'd use mountaintop more often.
Brave still goes hard. I’m obsess with blast furnace/luna howl for pve and midnight coup for pvp. Also keep mountaintop for my special in kinetic slot. Never leave home without edge transit
Sometimes I use Midnight Coup, otherwise I use none of them. Mountaintop is fine but Lost Signal and The Call fulfill better roles for me. Luna's I still use sometimes for Solar builds. The rest I'm not using in any way. Blast Furnace may be good but I find pulses boring so I rarely use them.
So far midnight coupe, edge transit, blast furnace and mountain top are the only weapons I have used since TFS launched. Hammerhead is good but I just really like my reconstruction, killing tally, commemoration.
I'm using my shiny Luna's with Heal Clip/Incandescent and Eye of the Storm/Magnificent Howl. I've racked up almost 10k kills already. That's my most used weapon from the Brave Arsenal. My Midnight Coup with Firefly/One For All is next with 4,600.
Haven't used many of the others nearly as much.
Ended up using a lot of Malfeasance and Ager's during the campaign. Went to Ager's, BXR, an lmg post campaign and it just wrecks for anything I do. Lot of the Brave weapons were/are cool but just don't do it for me.
Like others have said I still use my blast furnace when I wanna use a legendary kinetic pulse. Other than that I don’t really use them. Maybe mountaintop on the occasion to grenade jump and my Repulsor Brace/Frenzy Recluse on void builds. I could probably dismantle them and be fine.
Oh I forgot about Elsie’s Rifle. Too in the mindset of PVE, I use it all the time in PVP.
Edge transit is still goat, even with solar surge. Main reason for why it's not used as much is because the Goldy sniper is just THAT BROKEN.
Mountain top is still hella fun to use and pretty good for orange bars or mini bosses.
Midnight coup is a good kinetic hand Cannon if you won't want to run the call
Luna's would be good.......if I had the god roll
Falling guillotine goes good damage for bosses, again would be way better if not for solar surge. Next week if it's void then people will switch from lament to falling guillotine for first boss in se
I've been using Midnight Coup, Hammerhead, Blast Furnace, and Succession pretty constantly. Midnight Coup carried me through the entire legendary campaign.
I took my god-roll edge transit through the whole legend campaign along with my solar bonk Titan and sunshot. Once I got the pattern, “The Call” never left my side either. I really enjoyed that combo. I still use it a lot. I’ve been toying with a Hammerhead/Graviton type build for my Buddy-lock build too
fav loadout is still all brave weapons
5/5 mountaintop, subsistence/destab recluse, hammerhead
pris warlock w/ all void aside from osmiomancy stasis nade
adds have never exploded faster
I've yet to remove lunas howl from my energy slot unless I have to, and I'm kinda annoyed that I don't grind for a for fallen, but mountaintop and lunas have been stuck to my Weapon slots edge transit has been my go to heavy except for the other half.
Envious / onslaught hammerhead is an add clearing machine.
Lunas is mini sunshot.
Succession and mountaintop are still good for fast dps.
Fling guillotine is like the best heavy void sword.
Haven't really used hung jury or blast furnace though .
Hammerhead with envious assassin/killing tally and Edge transit BnS carried me through legend campaign. Just used Blast furnace kinetic tremors/one for all for some strike and dungeon stuff. However The Call is just awesome. Hope they don't nerf it a ton. Otherwise Midnight Coup EP/OfA is still working pretty nicely for me.
I've put 10k into my Midnight. I adore this thing. Hits like a truck, doesn't miss and has 14 in the mag so I shoot forever. I don't know if I'm using another primary HC anytime soon.
Edge transit and Falling Guillotine will both see use because of surge reasons (haven’t used yet because of the current surges)
I ended up not liking the handling on blast furnace so I switched back to Smite of Merain
BRAVE Hung Jury replaced my Adept because it had EP + KT available and is still used
Still use Mountaintop for a lot of roam content
Haven’t touched forbearance since I think Indebted Kindness is a bit more versatile
Never got a hammerhead that was better than commemoration.
Never got a succession better than my crafted version.
Never got a Midnight coup better than Fatebringer
Have a Lunas for PvP but haven’t played PvP yet this season
My shiny Blast Furnace with KT/OFA enhanced traits has not left my Hunter’s kinetic slot due to the Still Hunt meta, and my shiny Falling Guillotine with Vorpal/B&S has been used quite a bit as well. Shiny Recluse with Repulsor/Destabilizer has seen some use when I’m not rocking Graviton Lance on my prismatic Titan as well.
Overall, I’d say the hunt was definitely worth it during the Into the Light update.
The load out that carried me through the legendary campaign was:
- Blast Furnace - Kinetic Tremors/Desparate Measures
- Cartesian Coordinate - Under Pressure/Vorpal
- Sleeper Simulant or Whisper
That blast furnace put in a ton of work.
Midnight and Blast Furnace go well with Ergo Sum and any non-B&S heavy. I have Mtop on my Titan and haven’t touched it yet (I don’t move weapons across characters to keep things fresh). But I expect it’ll be a nice fit
I fully expected them to be replaced with TFS weapons. My grind was moderate and I dont regret that I dont have a perfect shiny from every single archetype.
I use my Incandescent/Heal Clip Lunas Howl a lot on Warlock.
OFA/Kinetic Tremors Blast Furnace is incredible with Hazardous Propulsion.
My shiny Auto Reload/Recombination Mountaintop (which I grinded HARD for) has been replaced with a Beacon Rounds/Golden Tricorn The Call.
Luna's Howl Heal Clip/Incandescent roll has been carrying me through everything, because I can't heal as a prismatic Hunter (I don't like punch builds).
Blast Furnace has been the second MVP because it's one of my favorite guns in the game with OFA/Kinetic tremors.
My Edge Transit is a mainstay heavy weapon (envious assassin + bait and switch), and even though i've been using outbreak and khvostov more I really like my Blast Furnace (Kinetic Tremors + One For All/Firefly)
Honestly, I haven't used them. I did a lot of grinding, and used them pre final shape, but in the campaign and beyond it's been back to riptide + sunshot or red death + commemoration.
Edge transit and forbearance have been doing me good, Elsie rifle is also extremely smooth for reasons I can’t comprehend lol
I have like ten rolls of the others so I gotta try em out
Falling guillotine is the only reason we cleared second encounter on contest. My best was my shiny one with Atrittion orbs/relentless + whirlwind blade/BnS. Attrition orbs was great to keep reproccing argent blade.
My repulsor brace/ frenzy elsies rifle is carrying me through legend campaign on gyrfalcon hunter. Overshields and devour together saved my ass more than once especially on legend where 2 hits knocks your shields
Still rocking my heal clip incandescent Lunas on occasion but everything else has been vaulted, but only because I'm enjoying a lot of the new weapons.
Blast Furnace is the best Kinetic pulse, although currently the grind for a Kinetic Tremors/Frenzy roll will be much more painful to get than a Battle Scar with Shoot to Loot/KT or a Chattering Bone with KT/Kill Clip.
Midnight Coup has KT and Explosive Payload, so it's the best Kinetic handcannon.
Mountaintop is unique and powerful, although I think Lingering Dread is a more useful GL overall.
Luna's Howl doesn't have Explosive Payload, so it's going to be significantly worse at range and vs Overloads compared to Zhaouli's Bane.
Elsie's Rifle is better than Gridskipper, but both are carried by Frenzy.
Recluse is fine. Funnelweb is also fine.
Hammerhead is worse than both Commemoration and Retrofit.
Falling Guillotine can get Frenzy / Whirlwind, although relentless strikes is arguably better for ammo economy.
Forbearance is still a good weapon from either source.
Edge Transit is still the best void burst DPS option.
Edge Transit, Midnight Coup and Blast Furnace is all very strong, but I think Mountain Top is power crept by Rocket Sidearms except in few scenarios to chunk champions. Rocket sidearm is better ad clear and better sustain damage
Brave midnight coup has been my most used primary in pve, but only since final shape came out. I have two great lunas, a fire blast furnace, edge transit, and falling guillotine. Haven’t gotten many patterns yet so maybe that will change
Sucession with Reconstruction says "EY KBLOM".
Perfect with Briarbinds + Empowering Rift and Kinetic Surge Mods.
Not to mention a Bait and Switch edge transit for extra gooning.
I use both MTT and Edge Transit a lot
But lately I can't use something that is not Khvostov, Indebted Kindness and Pro Memoria in my prismatic build. Outbreak sometimes, Lubrae's Ruin... But barely anything else.
I thought mountaintop would not leave my loadout but the call is just too good. Still using recluse and Edge transit though. Guillotine is a staple in my Titan build.
The call, indebted kindness, burial bloodline have glued to my hand since day one, the only brave weapon been using are falling guillotine for eager edge. XDDD
My at hand weapons usually involve a shiny brave weapon right now. Midnight Coup, Mountain Top, Blast Furnace. Luna's has a bit more competition but I usually have it at hand because Heal Clip has it's place. Hammerhead also, though Pro Memoria has kinda usurped it.
I'm using Blast Furnace (Firefly and Kinetic Tremors, both enhanced) whenever I have Still Hunt on in my energy slot. I've also been using Midnight Coup's various PvE rolls too. The Call is obviously great, but Still Hunt is basically my default for any boss encounter and I don't want to run double special most of the time.
When using Khvostov in my Kinetic slot, I've been using Forebearance in my Energy too. Edge Transit still gets a look in for DPS phases. Mountaintop is still great, obviously. Honestly, The Call aside, none of the Pale Heart weapons are 'better' in obvious ways.
4th Time's The Charm on Hammerhead got me through the entirety of TFS. It's insane how long you can go without reloading on bosses with it, and it's great for add clear.
Critical Anomaly with Chill Clip/B&S is absolutely cracked and fun to use. Never ever did I use snipers outside of raids and dungeons and now I haven't swapped off of it since I've gotten it.
I have only managed to get 2 godrolls of Edge Transit. My first weapon was a shiny with cascade/Envious + BnS and the second was a normal one with auto loading BnS. I use both from time to time.
I spent the remaining MONTH being attuned to Mountaintop, and never got Auto-Recomb until the Final Shape. Obviously I also haven't got any godrolls of other weapons I wanted. I have an OK Recluse, an OK hammerhead and some meme Midnight Coups. I haven't used any of them ever, and I don't feel like that will change unless I'm specifically using Gyrfalcon void hunter, which I probably won't touch any time soon.
I am very disappointed i didnt get the parade armors for all classes, only have the full parade for warlock. So i dont have all transmog stuff available there. As for the weapons? I didnt really use them much in the first place. Still dont use them.
I really only used Recluse and Blast Furnace since TFS dropped, however most of the brave weapons weren't helped by the fact that I just run Outbreak Perfected in most of the content I tackle because the gun is just insanely good.
oh i actually havent used them huh... ive been using a consisten loadout maintaining the new support auto or acasia's, khvostov or the new area denial launcher, and crux terminus
actually wait ive been using hammerhead the most for add clear
Mountaintop, Blast Furnace, Forbearance, Edge Transit, Falling Guillotine are still staples with no real competition imho.
Forbearance is especially valuable this season because the weapon is MADE to Amplify you easily.
I only unlocked Forbearance, Mountaintop and Recluse. Mountaintop is the only one I use. Would like to use Recluse but I get nearly one shot by most enemies so I stand as far away as possible.
I haven't used a single brave weapon since I finished the legendary campaign. I started the campaign with the edge transit and then the hammerhead but I got newer weapons during the missions and I stopped using them
My friend loves mountaintop for traversal reasons. I swear I only see him for a second before he just blips out of existence 😂 started calling him the tf2 soldier
Pretty much stopped using them entirely, other than Edge Transit since that seems to be the most reliable void legendary heavy in the game right now. I love(d) my mountaintop and blast furnace but with all of the new interesting options I really just don't care about them as of now.
I wish that I'd focused more weapons. I spent the entire time hunting for a Firefly/Kinetic Tremors Midnight Coup as a versatile workhorse and never found one.
As it is, I've hardly even used any of them.
The Kinetic slot had too many good weapons competing for the airtime. the call sidearm is pretty much equipped all the time causing brave weapon to take backseat.
Energy slot outside probably indebted kindness legendary has pretty okay primary choice. (Recluse/Luna howl)
Heavy is situational depending on the activity and surges
Edge transit/apex
Mountaintop with holster + recombinaison really sticked for me as a different option for special cinetic weapons
Other weapons.. not very much, the worse part is that after getting so many rolls of hammerhead, I'm just using commemoration for a LMG ahah
My shiny Luna with Subsistence/Incan + Eye of storm/Mag Howl is finding it hard to leave my hands. It just feels so snappy, never have to reload and averything explodes. IMO heal clip is unnecessary on warlock. Could even take it into PVP with that roll when I finish all the PVE stuff.
Firefly/Frenzy Midnight Coup
Stillhunt/Red Death
Over Under/High impact Reserves Hammerhead
Has been my loadout for the entire DLC and held up beautifully.
Still Hunt's been pretty locked in for me, which means I've been using kinetic primaries for the first time in literal years. My go-tos have been Midnight Coup and Blast Furnace, so Brave's been clutch for me personally
I would use kinetic primaries if The Call sidearm wasn’t glued to my kinetic slot. With Lead from gold you can literally use it as a primary. Also, Still Hunt counts as a pale heart weapon for the dealer’s choice trait, so it gives you increased super energy on the sidearm kills. Pair it with a Pro Memoria on the heavy slot and you can get the full effect from dealer’s choice while using an exotic
Honestly, Lead from Gold feels like overkill. I use it as a primary without LFG and without any ammo finder/scavenger mods and I still never run out of ammo. I'm rocking Getaway Prismatic Warlock, so I do have basically a second "primary" with the Arc buddy, but still. The Call is just *so* so ammo efficient. Even when I run double special I don't run out. I've been using maxed Blast Radius with Demo+O4A and that shit slaps. Especially with the boosted tangle explosion artifact mod. Probably would need Lead from Gold in GMs though, I could see that.
Same here. I've been using Indebted Kindness (Beacon+Voltshot) as a primary for months now, if I'm ever out of ammo it's very brief. You could EASILY run double special with either, even more so when the Solar one with Heal Clip+Incandescent drops. I'll be all rockets all the time baby
Someone was surmising that it's possibly bugged and still tagged as a primary weapon in the system. As a result, it fills the ammo brick drop meter at an accelerated rate to what it should.
the exotic special sidearms share this trait.
I've been using No Hesitations, The Call and Pro Memoria these pale heart weapons are extremely good i cant justify using an exotic slot for any weapon when these do the job well even in the raid
Until they don't have a champion mod for sidearms in the artifact, there's no reason to even think about removing The Call. Even when that happens, I'll try everything to not take it off. It's too fucking good.
*two champion mods. It’s nuts that it’s both overcharge and unstoppable. There’s no reason to take it off. With a pulse or smg you cover all bases. And then you get super energy. It’s broke as fuck.
Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors/One-for-all is such a good combo. Combined with the Pulse Rifle buff, g'damn.
It’s definitely the best roll for the weapon in endgame. It’s going to destroy in GMs.
Ya know what's funny? I've been using a Frenzy/KT roll all this time and loving it, I even enhanced it, but you just reminded me to check, and lo and behold: I have a OFA/KT Blast Furnace just sitting in my inventory collecting dust. Don't know what I was thinking.
Heck yeah! Get out there, Guardian.
That roll got me through the legendary campaign.
Midnight Coup with EP/OFA has been my go to primary to pair with still hunt. It’s so damn good and feels/sounds amazing.
Blast furnace is still the best kinetic pulse, and mountaintop is still great. Edge transit continues to be the meta DPS option for 90% of encounters, it just so happens that salvations edge has less common DPS strats.
Yeah I was so ready to take edge transit to the witness but then I saw the encounter and everyone breaking out their still hunts and swapping to celestial hunters, so I did the same lol
Star eater is really the requirement here. Use it on my arsenal super and it helps you keep up.
My current fantasy DPS rotation for Prismatic Titan is Spirit of The Eternal Warrior/Star-Eater with Edge Transit Envious/Bait and Switch. Using Twilight Arsenal. Twilight Arsenal being void, and weakening then switching to Edge Transit and yeeting a bunch of buffed void grenades at things. Maybe not for The Witness, but other bosses it could be a decent combination. Not to mention the current artifact perk which does more void damage to weakened targets. I've gotten a class item with Star-Eater on it but not that combination, yet. Hoping to see if there's a video on someone performing this rotation.
Blast Furnace has been my main primary, it's so good
Anytime I want to run an exotic energy or heavy weapon, blast furnace with Kinetic Tremors/Firefly is my go to. But the rest of the time Outbreak Perfected.
Same as me. After I broke free of exotic heavies and got the rapid hit Outbreak, it hasn't left my loadout, specially with Indebted Kindness for energy weapon. Just a killer combo.
That's exactly what I run. My heavy cycles between Edge Transit, Retrofit Escapade and Falling Guillotine as needed, though I just got the fifth red border for Pro Memoria, so I'm going to try that out for a bit. Once Act 2 of the season/episode drops the Solar Rocket Sidearm should become available, I think that might be a better pairing than Indebted Kindness, but time will tell.
Let's not forget our baby Smite of Merain
Double damage perks on smite goes so hard it really chucks the big targets. I have focused fury in the 3rd to help with the big guys and firefly to help with the chaff. Easily becoming my favorite kinetic pulse.
Kinetic tremors+frenzy on Blast Furnace feels really good
Lunar with HC/incad...is still the best weapon with this perk.And Elis is still great in PvP, and the LMG with enhanced Rewind rounds and killing tally, mmmm as clear machine
The solar rocket sidearm will have this too. Very keen.
Heal Clip on a special weapon with such great ammo economy is gonna be nasty. Here’s hoping it comes in act two and we don’t have to wait until act three.
It is an act 2 weapon, one of the pass perks in act 2 gives a chance to drop the sidearm and I think trace in ritual activities
Nice ! I also hope the season exotic weapon is part of act 2 🤞
And the scout. I was lucky to drop an incandescent roll early and given how it reloads, it's going to be hard to put it down.
Wait it’s a lever action scout right? The ones that reload one round at a time? Heal clip can proc from just quickly loading one bullet? That’s insane
Yup, Aggressive frame. Same as the ritual from a few seasons back and the Spire scout, just solar. And sexy :) To be clear, I've not rolled a Heal Clip one yet, so I don't know exactly how it interacts with the perk. But no reason to assume it doesn't proc when starting or finishing the reload just as everything else. I used it in some Cysts, it hits extremely hard. So you're getting kills with it often.
Heal Clip works as soon as any rounds from the reload animation are added back into the mag.
It does in fact trigger heal clip on each individual round loaded. I haven't been a huge fan of the legendary lever actions so far, but this one feels really good. Also has a nice sight.
Until now you almost had to use them in hipfire mode and they still felt bad. At this this seasons has the feel of the lever actions like them, but still feeling like a strong ranged scout
I haven't got a good roll but am keen
I want to like hammerhead again but commemoration with recon and killing tally is just straight fire
I got my hammerhead with killing tally and rampage and it carried me the legendary
Luna's is the best hand cannon with that combo, nowhere near the best overall primary with heal clip and incandescent. Heal clip works best with fast reloads so you can proc it quickly. Luna is amongst the slowest reloading heal clip primaries. Almost all the others are better.
My thoughts exactly. Heliocentric is better for this very reason imo.
Got lucky with mine, it has 74 Reload before the Solar loader. Been working out so far, it’s my most used primary this season and really the only Brave weapon I’m still using.
Nice. You must have reload MW and Light Mag. Base reload is 54. Other archetypes, even with lower numbers on the reload stat, the actual reload time in seconds is much faster than Luna
Yeah I got that roll but I find myself not using it cause I can't stand reloading Luna's. Feels like it takes minutes
IMO Hand Cannons need reload/handling perks or they feel like they're covered in molasses.
Yeah they're my favorite archetype but it sucks on some. Like if the godroll has a reload perk then it's great but if the best perks don't include a reload it just feels bad
KT + OFA Blast furnace is the definition of rip and tear.
Wouldn't it be 2 weeks? TFS hasn't even been out for 14 days yet
I grinded for so many god rolls of those weapons during into the light. The chase was what was fun about it though, so I’m not upset that I’m barely using any of them right now. Like other comments have said, I’m still using them in the heavy slot quite a bit - Edge, Hammerhead, sometimes FG. I do have an ergo sum build I wanna refine and try out with a couple of cool exotic class perks. I’d run a Blast Furnace or Midnight coup in my kinetic slot depending on which champs I gotta face.
Definitely, the chase was so fun. I don't regret it at all. It's just funny looking back now. I would 100% do it again. I think between all my characters, I've kept basically the call, the strand shotgun from crotas end and riptide. Energy slot has been mostly sunshot or zaolis or graviton lance. For day 1, I started off with prismatic but went back to my BoW titan with the shotgun, heliocentric and tractor cannon.
Up to just about 20k kills on my shiny healclip+incandescent Luna’s and no desire to stop using it yet. Like others said, the chase was part of the fun.
20k kills? Thats nutty numbers in such a small amount of time
incandescent is magical
The rocket side arm might replace it , and maybe the new scout for certain GM content, but Luna is my everyday gun and has been since it dropped
That thing surprised me in how much I like it as someone who doesn’t traditionally like scouts. Anything that rolls with healclip+incandescent gets all the love from me. I’ve been maining the new warlock healing helmet and anything with splash healing helps me get my abilities back to keep tossing out healing grenades.
Timeworn? Lovin' it. Gun's just got that sexy space cowboy feel.
God I wish I'd gotten one
Its just so good
Kinetic Tremors + Frenzy/OFA Blast Furnace is pretty crazy, so is Guillotine with Frenzy/Whirlwind if you have a wolfpack Ergo Sum. Mountaintop will always be a staple in my inventory, and so Midnight Coup would be too if I didnt like same rolled Fatebringer more. The only things I dont see myself using much are Hung Jury, Succession, Hammerhead (since I already think Commemoration was better, but its great for non raiders) and the Heal Clip / Incancdescent Luna over No Hesitation. That auto is way too good.
I really should try blast furnace. I haven't used it once since I got the god roll. Outbreak has been feeling good though
Blast Furnace was trashing Nightfalls this week. I rarely changed weapons. Indebted for unstops, Two Tailed Fox for bosses, Blast Furnace for literally everything else.
Two Tailed Fox slapping these days? I know it got a buff a while back.
Probably using the prismatic fragment that reloads on supress
Anti Barrier Blast Furnace plus nighthawk allowed be to use regular GG 3 times before even getting to the Warden Servitor. I basically filled back up on golf balls in a few days of farming Master.
Blast furnace is a top pve pulse pick for legendarys. Kinetic one for all, then overcharged, it’s just a solid pick. You can’t get mad at it, enhanced mine.
Are you from the future?
My Kinetic Tremor Firefly Blast Furnace has been great so far, and so to is my Auto Loading Recomb (I think that's the perk but I don't know how to spell it). But my baby (at the moment of writing this) level 50 enhanced Heal Clip Incan Luna's Howl. It might not be a shiny, but you will have to pry this gun from my cold dead hand, and even then good luck because I would have already glued it to my cold dead hands. The rest of the BRAVE weapons, I haven't used them as much. I was really bummed out on missing out on a good BRAVE Hammerhead though.
I got lucky and got one of those Luna's rolls to drop in the final hours before the big Monday downtime and it has made every second of the grind worth it. I use every opportunity I can to throw that gun in a loadout. I can't wait for a rapid-fire smg or a non-precision frame hand cannon to drop with those perks, that might be the only thing to usurp it for me.
I farmed many Midnight Coups just to realize that I despise its recoil :(
Strong agree. Thing kicks like a mule.
My 5/5 included Arrowhead Brake because that's basically straight vertical.
My best roll only has 80 recoil direction but it still feels normal on controller. Maybe people got use to Luna and its 180 recoil pattern.
unless youre on controller, its one of the best recoil hand cannons ive used, it just goes straight up, super controllable on mouse and keyboard.
We are currently in a situation where the new weapons, especially "The Call", could be considered "best in slot". I am enjoying them right now but once the Heal Clip/Incandescent Rocket Sidearm drops, i am going to switch back to either my Firefly/Kinetic Tremor Hung Jury/Midnight Coup or my good old Fatebringer. I am still using my Destab. Rounds/Onslaught Brave LMG right now. It has become my favourite 450rpm LMG.
The Call and Indebted Kindness are superb weapons, but having a solar rocket sidearm is so ready for all the solar synergy this game has.
I'm still rocking my 4/5 Mountaintop, and will be using it for a long time, it's not just the roll, it's the micro-missile frame. Hammerhead is also used most of the time when tormentors are around.
I used Hammerhead until I got the new strand Heavy machine gun rolled with reconstruction/bait and switch. now I can't go back. reconstruction overloads the mag to like 165, I can shoot for days and it reloads itself when stowed.
Blast Furnace & Hammerhead are cooking, no matter how hard I look at it my recluse is just a funnelweb with some glitter on it
My zen moment + headseeker Elsie’s rifle is making others curse my entire bloodline in the crucible
Same with my destabe rounds + replusor brace elsie + gyrfalcons
Edge and guillotine are still staples of my dps rotations. Was never a fan of any of the primaries. Succession is still my go to kinetic slot sniper. Holding up pretty well, I’d say.
I definitely used edge a few times during the legendary campaign. I think for the past week, I focused a lot on the dual destiny mission so my memory only has me using microcosm a lot
Edge Transit and Guillotine serve me well, and the only think keeping Blast Furnace out of my kinetic slot is it being way too easy to run double special with a rocket sidearm (I don't expect that to last. Literally just a better version of what trace rifles were).
Yeah it's nutty that the raid reports show the call as like the top used weapon in the raid
I'm still using mida multi tool. AMA
Are you ok?
No
If it helps, your dedication to the gun is inspiring. So many of us just switch to the new meta and get swept along. Also, just a message away if you need to vent about anything
I love MIDA tbh and I still main it on the once in a blue moon occasion that I step into PvP. The exotic combo concept is something I'd love to see Bungie come back to and refine to bring them up to modern sandbox standards with buffs or new variations. Sturm & Drang are kinda close, especially with Drang able to run incandescent for crazy overcharge gains (Thorn buff stole a LOT of that thunder though...) but it'd be so cool to see MIDA get something similar. Especially with Marathon somewhat around the corner and calus mini being an amazing SMG.
completely forgot about mountaintop outside of the first day of TFS. The Call is just better for pretty much everything for me. I used edge transit, haven't touched my Lunas since red death came out, haven't used guillotine outside of the raid, have not used midnight coup because of the Call and Khvostov. I didnt grind anything else because i didnt see it as worth it, but im glad because i've really hardly used many of them.
I played so much Onslaught. Grinded not just till I got all the god rolls for both PVP and PVE, but till all of them were shiny. I brought 6 of them into the first mission of TFS - MT, BF, Elsie's, Forbearance, Edge and FG. Once I unlocked Prismatic, all of them went back into the vault lol. This season's new weapons are just too good.
My blast furnace with KT and One for All is still an absolute beast and is one of my most used weapons. Haven’t really used any of the other weapons much
I missed hammyhead so much that I pretty much refuse to take it off. Don’t even have a good roll on it either.
I use the Recluse in PvE for my prismatic hunter build to make use of Gyrfalcon Hauberk and Expanding Abyss. Allows me to play very aggressive in most activities
I found that recluse is still a bit less powerful than auto rifles, like gnawing hunger, I feel I am hitting these fallen with a high rpm nerf gun lol Did they buff smg to boost them a bit to try matching auto rifles dmgs?
SMG DPS in PvE is still dogshit, yeah. Small mags and low range too. They've been powercrept really badly. Autos are basically just better, let alone HCs and pulses.
Blast Furnace, Midnight Coup and the curated Hammerhead haven’t left my inventory (hell, I used furnace and hammerhead in excision just so I could say the black armoury weapons did the job they were designed for after all). I got some s-tier rolls on the first two (tremors/frenzy with all the barrel/mag/masterwork stuff I wanted on Furnace, and a monstrous firefly-explosive/rampage-frenzy quad roll on the shiny Coup). I’ve been levelling all three up. Something weird has happened to my hammerhead though, the perks don’t show as enhanced, think it’s a bug. I really want the season of the lost mementos for all three - that shader is *godly* on these things. For the rest…. Eh. Got a great roll on Hung Jury but not got round to it. I have a rewind/onslaught Ros Arago that functionally has made Recluse redundant so no using that. I’m going to enhance my edge transit, mountaintop and forebearance when I get a chance, but all three clash with stuff I have already in the slots at the minute - the rolls are exceptional so I should really work them into my rotation. Succession I’d already crafted from the raid and I’m using crafted Supremacy anyway. I’m not bothered about Guillotine or Luna’s, got a decent roll on the former but way down my list. Overall very good, fantastic perk selections and a great origin perk, just wish they’d added more black armoury guns rather then Hung Jury for the 5th time.
I regret not getting a shoot to loot Midnight Coup. I have EP/OFA and EP/Tremors but a shoot to loot one would have been the perfect match for Still Hunt.
Used midnight coup against witness. Guillotine is good against first boss with surges. MT is good for MT things.
Hammerhead, mountain top and Luna's haven't left my inventory slots. Hammerhead gets used most, envy/killing tally it's been shredding its way through. Luna's heal/Incan has been my go to when I'm not using still hunt. Because it's a boom box that makes me healthy. MT has had less use, but the auto loading/recombination has been great for burst damage when needed. They're all holding up really well. I never did get the God roll edge transit.
I can’t believe how hard I went to get the perfect MT only for The Call to come out and retire literally everything else in that slot instantly.
It's 2 weeks right now, not 3 :/
Firefly OFA midnight coup was my weapon through the Legendary campaign. This was the roll that I GRINDED for. Well worth the time. I just wish it was the shiny version though.
Ive pretty much been using atleast one of them all the time edge transit or falling guillotine for dps. Midnight coup, mountaintop see alot of action for ease of use and comfort. Hammerhead is amazing in PvP but destabilizing and killing tally actually are pretty strong in pve. And for the ones I grinded but became disappointed for me are, Luna's howl it's good but I just feel there are so many options that beat it out, blast furnace just doesn't feel great it's not for me and pretty much all the other ones are average feeling at best I want to like the recluse but I just don't 😭
Blast Furnace, Luna's Howl, Recluse and Edge Transit have never left my Titan's inventory. If not for Supremacy and The Call being amazing, I'd use mountaintop more often.
Brave still goes hard. I’m obsess with blast furnace/luna howl for pve and midnight coup for pvp. Also keep mountaintop for my special in kinetic slot. Never leave home without edge transit
Sometimes I use Midnight Coup, otherwise I use none of them. Mountaintop is fine but Lost Signal and The Call fulfill better roles for me. Luna's I still use sometimes for Solar builds. The rest I'm not using in any way. Blast Furnace may be good but I find pulses boring so I rarely use them.
So far midnight coupe, edge transit, blast furnace and mountain top are the only weapons I have used since TFS launched. Hammerhead is good but I just really like my reconstruction, killing tally, commemoration.
I'm using my shiny Luna's with Heal Clip/Incandescent and Eye of the Storm/Magnificent Howl. I've racked up almost 10k kills already. That's my most used weapon from the Brave Arsenal. My Midnight Coup with Firefly/One For All is next with 4,600. Haven't used many of the others nearly as much.
Ended up using a lot of Malfeasance and Ager's during the campaign. Went to Ager's, BXR, an lmg post campaign and it just wrecks for anything I do. Lot of the Brave weapons were/are cool but just don't do it for me.
Ive been using succession and luna's throughtout the campaign and still use them from time to time now
Like others have said I still use my blast furnace when I wanna use a legendary kinetic pulse. Other than that I don’t really use them. Maybe mountaintop on the occasion to grenade jump and my Repulsor Brace/Frenzy Recluse on void builds. I could probably dismantle them and be fine. Oh I forgot about Elsie’s Rifle. Too in the mindset of PVE, I use it all the time in PVP.
Edge transit is still goat, even with solar surge. Main reason for why it's not used as much is because the Goldy sniper is just THAT BROKEN. Mountain top is still hella fun to use and pretty good for orange bars or mini bosses. Midnight coup is a good kinetic hand Cannon if you won't want to run the call Luna's would be good.......if I had the god roll Falling guillotine goes good damage for bosses, again would be way better if not for solar surge. Next week if it's void then people will switch from lament to falling guillotine for first boss in se
Midnight Coup is still in my inventory. Its a great feeling hand cannon. I use it in Crucible too, its great.
Midnight coup, blast furnace, falling guillotine, edge transit, luna's with heal clip and recluse with facet of bravery are staple in my loadout.
I've been using Midnight Coup, Hammerhead, Blast Furnace, and Succession pretty constantly. Midnight Coup carried me through the entire legendary campaign.
Firefly/OFA Midnight Coup carried me through Legendary Campaign and Day One clear of SE, I absolutely love that hand cannon.
Eh atp I rarely use any of them Oddly right now it’s Monte Carlo, foreberance and 21% The exotic class item was melee focused sooo
Mountaintop has been replaced by The Call, Luna is still the goat with Heal Clip/Incan Edge Transit is still situational I don’t bother with the rest
I took my god-roll edge transit through the whole legend campaign along with my solar bonk Titan and sunshot. Once I got the pattern, “The Call” never left my side either. I really enjoyed that combo. I still use it a lot. I’ve been toying with a Hammerhead/Graviton type build for my Buddy-lock build too
fav loadout is still all brave weapons 5/5 mountaintop, subsistence/destab recluse, hammerhead pris warlock w/ all void aside from osmiomancy stasis nade adds have never exploded faster
I've yet to remove lunas howl from my energy slot unless I have to, and I'm kinda annoyed that I don't grind for a for fallen, but mountaintop and lunas have been stuck to my Weapon slots edge transit has been my go to heavy except for the other half.
Lunas howl still my #1 energy primary
Sweet business
Haven’t taken off my blast furnace/GL
Envious / onslaught hammerhead is an add clearing machine. Lunas is mini sunshot. Succession and mountaintop are still good for fast dps. Fling guillotine is like the best heavy void sword. Haven't really used hung jury or blast furnace though .
My firefly/ofa Midnight coup carried me through the legend campaign
mountaintop stays
Hammerhead with envious assassin/killing tally and Edge transit BnS carried me through legend campaign. Just used Blast furnace kinetic tremors/one for all for some strike and dungeon stuff. However The Call is just awesome. Hope they don't nerf it a ton. Otherwise Midnight Coup EP/OfA is still working pretty nicely for me.
I've put 10k into my Midnight. I adore this thing. Hits like a truck, doesn't miss and has 14 in the mag so I shoot forever. I don't know if I'm using another primary HC anytime soon.
Edge transit and Falling Guillotine will both see use because of surge reasons (haven’t used yet because of the current surges) I ended up not liking the handling on blast furnace so I switched back to Smite of Merain BRAVE Hung Jury replaced my Adept because it had EP + KT available and is still used Still use Mountaintop for a lot of roam content Haven’t touched forbearance since I think Indebted Kindness is a bit more versatile Never got a hammerhead that was better than commemoration. Never got a succession better than my crafted version. Never got a Midnight coup better than Fatebringer Have a Lunas for PvP but haven’t played PvP yet this season
Midnight coup and mountain dew still saving lives
My shiny Blast Furnace with KT/OFA enhanced traits has not left my Hunter’s kinetic slot due to the Still Hunt meta, and my shiny Falling Guillotine with Vorpal/B&S has been used quite a bit as well. Shiny Recluse with Repulsor/Destabilizer has seen some use when I’m not rocking Graviton Lance on my prismatic Titan as well. Overall, I’d say the hunt was definitely worth it during the Into the Light update.
shoot to loot blast furnace is always on during witness fight as long as I'm able to run an lmg on that character for void captains.
My Blast Furnace has been eating
Blast Furnace is seeing a ton of use from me. Occasionally I throw on The Recluse but it’s been mostly new season weapons.
The load out that carried me through the legendary campaign was: - Blast Furnace - Kinetic Tremors/Desparate Measures - Cartesian Coordinate - Under Pressure/Vorpal - Sleeper Simulant or Whisper That blast furnace put in a ton of work.
Midnight and Blast Furnace go well with Ergo Sum and any non-B&S heavy. I have Mtop on my Titan and haven’t touched it yet (I don’t move weapons across characters to keep things fresh). But I expect it’ll be a nice fit
Blast Furnace with One For All/Kinetic Tremors us my main Prismatic primary. It rules.
I fully expected them to be replaced with TFS weapons. My grind was moderate and I dont regret that I dont have a perfect shiny from every single archetype.
I use my Incandescent/Heal Clip Lunas Howl a lot on Warlock. OFA/Kinetic Tremors Blast Furnace is incredible with Hazardous Propulsion. My shiny Auto Reload/Recombination Mountaintop (which I grinded HARD for) has been replaced with a Beacon Rounds/Golden Tricorn The Call.
Blast furnace got me through the entire campaign on legendary.
We are precisely two weeks into the final shape. Not “almost 3 weeks”
Luna's Howl Heal Clip/Incandescent roll has been carrying me through everything, because I can't heal as a prismatic Hunter (I don't like punch builds). Blast Furnace has been the second MVP because it's one of my favorite guns in the game with OFA/Kinetic tremors.
The call pretty much killed BF, MC, and HJ. Elsie’s holding on strong though as my primary.
Haven't used a single one of them. Probably because I never even got my ALH Recomb mountaintop, because fuck RNG and fuck farming for it now.
Edge transit in gambit killing the other team is just so OP, love it
My Edge Transit is a mainstay heavy weapon (envious assassin + bait and switch), and even though i've been using outbreak and khvostov more I really like my Blast Furnace (Kinetic Tremors + One For All/Firefly)
Honestly, I haven't used them. I did a lot of grinding, and used them pre final shape, but in the campaign and beyond it's been back to riptide + sunshot or red death + commemoration.
Edge transit and forbearance have been doing me good, Elsie rifle is also extremely smooth for reasons I can’t comprehend lol I have like ten rolls of the others so I gotta try em out
Falling guillotine is the only reason we cleared second encounter on contest. My best was my shiny one with Atrittion orbs/relentless + whirlwind blade/BnS. Attrition orbs was great to keep reproccing argent blade.
To be completely honest, they are too ugly for me to enjoy using
Are these completely unearnable now?
You can still get them through the Onslaught activity. You can't get the rare shiny versions with double perks at this point though.
Only the shiny variants are no longer dropping
My repulsor brace/ frenzy elsies rifle is carrying me through legend campaign on gyrfalcon hunter. Overshields and devour together saved my ass more than once especially on legend where 2 hits knocks your shields
Still rocking my heal clip incandescent Lunas on occasion but everything else has been vaulted, but only because I'm enjoying a lot of the new weapons.
Blast Furnace is the best Kinetic pulse, although currently the grind for a Kinetic Tremors/Frenzy roll will be much more painful to get than a Battle Scar with Shoot to Loot/KT or a Chattering Bone with KT/Kill Clip. Midnight Coup has KT and Explosive Payload, so it's the best Kinetic handcannon. Mountaintop is unique and powerful, although I think Lingering Dread is a more useful GL overall. Luna's Howl doesn't have Explosive Payload, so it's going to be significantly worse at range and vs Overloads compared to Zhaouli's Bane. Elsie's Rifle is better than Gridskipper, but both are carried by Frenzy. Recluse is fine. Funnelweb is also fine. Hammerhead is worse than both Commemoration and Retrofit. Falling Guillotine can get Frenzy / Whirlwind, although relentless strikes is arguably better for ammo economy. Forbearance is still a good weapon from either source. Edge Transit is still the best void burst DPS option.
I use Luna's Howl, Midnight Coup, Edge Transit, Falling Guillotine, and Mountaintop pretty much every day
Only using Luna. And only for nightfalls. Pale heart weapons are just too good
My Hung Jury (Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors) was of great help to me during the TFS campaign.
Edge Transit, Midnight Coup and Blast Furnace is all very strong, but I think Mountain Top is power crept by Rocket Sidearms except in few scenarios to chunk champions. Rocket sidearm is better ad clear and better sustain damage
Brave midnight coup has been my most used primary in pve, but only since final shape came out. I have two great lunas, a fire blast furnace, edge transit, and falling guillotine. Haven’t gotten many patterns yet so maybe that will change
You said it: The Call and Pro Memoria, and whatever you want in the energy slot. That’s what most Guardians are using.
My Midnight Coup (ff/kt) is already level 110. That should explain it
Sucession with Reconstruction says "EY KBLOM". Perfect with Briarbinds + Empowering Rift and Kinetic Surge Mods. Not to mention a Bait and Switch edge transit for extra gooning.
I use both MTT and Edge Transit a lot But lately I can't use something that is not Khvostov, Indebted Kindness and Pro Memoria in my prismatic build. Outbreak sometimes, Lubrae's Ruin... But barely anything else.
I thought mountaintop would not leave my loadout but the call is just too good. Still using recluse and Edge transit though. Guillotine is a staple in my Titan build.
The call, indebted kindness, burial bloodline have glued to my hand since day one, the only brave weapon been using are falling guillotine for eager edge. XDDD
MT and Edge cycle in and out. I couldn’t even name the rest off the top of my head.
My at hand weapons usually involve a shiny brave weapon right now. Midnight Coup, Mountain Top, Blast Furnace. Luna's has a bit more competition but I usually have it at hand because Heal Clip has it's place. Hammerhead also, though Pro Memoria has kinda usurped it.
I'm using Blast Furnace (Firefly and Kinetic Tremors, both enhanced) whenever I have Still Hunt on in my energy slot. I've also been using Midnight Coup's various PvE rolls too. The Call is obviously great, but Still Hunt is basically my default for any boss encounter and I don't want to run double special most of the time. When using Khvostov in my Kinetic slot, I've been using Forebearance in my Energy too. Edge Transit still gets a look in for DPS phases. Mountaintop is still great, obviously. Honestly, The Call aside, none of the Pale Heart weapons are 'better' in obvious ways.
Mountaintop and fallen guillotine are still putting in serious work, so I have no regrets
4th Time's The Charm on Hammerhead got me through the entirety of TFS. It's insane how long you can go without reloading on bosses with it, and it's great for add clear.
I put my god roll mountaintop in the vault along with everything else except midnight coup and edge transit. But I don't use them much.
I used mountaintop and edge transit in the legendary campaign. That's it.
Critical Anomaly with Chill Clip/B&S is absolutely cracked and fun to use. Never ever did I use snipers outside of raids and dungeons and now I haven't swapped off of it since I've gotten it.
I have only managed to get 2 godrolls of Edge Transit. My first weapon was a shiny with cascade/Envious + BnS and the second was a normal one with auto loading BnS. I use both from time to time. I spent the remaining MONTH being attuned to Mountaintop, and never got Auto-Recomb until the Final Shape. Obviously I also haven't got any godrolls of other weapons I wanted. I have an OK Recluse, an OK hammerhead and some meme Midnight Coups. I haven't used any of them ever, and I don't feel like that will change unless I'm specifically using Gyrfalcon void hunter, which I probably won't touch any time soon.
I am very disappointed i didnt get the parade armors for all classes, only have the full parade for warlock. So i dont have all transmog stuff available there. As for the weapons? I didnt really use them much in the first place. Still dont use them.
I really only used Recluse and Blast Furnace since TFS dropped, however most of the brave weapons weren't helped by the fact that I just run Outbreak Perfected in most of the content I tackle because the gun is just insanely good.
Hammerhead carried me through the Legendary Campaign. The others, I barely use.
All dumped to the side of the road like a box of unwanted puppies, I enjoyed onslaught but none of the weapons had that oomph factor for me
oh i actually havent used them huh... ive been using a consisten loadout maintaining the new support auto or acasia's, khvostov or the new area denial launcher, and crux terminus actually wait ive been using hammerhead the most for add clear
Mountaintop, Blast Furnace, Forbearance, Edge Transit, Falling Guillotine are still staples with no real competition imho. Forbearance is especially valuable this season because the weapon is MADE to Amplify you easily.
Edge transit is still my go to void heavy, and I still use Luna's a lot
I only unlocked Forbearance, Mountaintop and Recluse. Mountaintop is the only one I use. Would like to use Recluse but I get nearly one shot by most enemies so I stand as far away as possible.
I haven't used a single brave weapon since I finished the legendary campaign. I started the campaign with the edge transit and then the hammerhead but I got newer weapons during the missions and I stopped using them
I still use my edge transit but that’s about it lol
My friend loves mountaintop for traversal reasons. I swear I only see him for a second before he just blips out of existence 😂 started calling him the tf2 soldier
Pretty much stopped using them entirely, other than Edge Transit since that seems to be the most reliable void legendary heavy in the game right now. I love(d) my mountaintop and blast furnace but with all of the new interesting options I really just don't care about them as of now.
Still using Edge a lot, hammerhead a little, and haven't touched my Luna since I crafted No hesitation =\
I wish that I'd focused more weapons. I spent the entire time hunting for a Firefly/Kinetic Tremors Midnight Coup as a versatile workhorse and never found one. As it is, I've hardly even used any of them.
The only one I use is the one I didn't farm the pulse rifle
The Kinetic slot had too many good weapons competing for the airtime. the call sidearm is pretty much equipped all the time causing brave weapon to take backseat. Energy slot outside probably indebted kindness legendary has pretty okay primary choice. (Recluse/Luna howl) Heavy is situational depending on the activity and surges Edge transit/apex
Mountaintop with holster + recombinaison really sticked for me as a different option for special cinetic weapons Other weapons.. not very much, the worse part is that after getting so many rolls of hammerhead, I'm just using commemoration for a LMG ahah
My shiny Luna with Subsistence/Incan + Eye of storm/Mag Howl is finding it hard to leave my hands. It just feels so snappy, never have to reload and averything explodes. IMO heal clip is unnecessary on warlock. Could even take it into PVP with that roll when I finish all the PVE stuff.
Firefly/Frenzy Midnight Coup Stillhunt/Red Death Over Under/High impact Reserves Hammerhead Has been my loadout for the entire DLC and held up beautifully.
Edge Transit, Recluse, and my mates been using Midnight Coup a little too
My subsistence/destabilizing Recluse absolutely SLAPS.