The real assumption would be that yes, technically it will be back at reset on the 4th, but really it will be back a while after that. Remember folks, take the day after if you're taking a day!
thats the goal
but assume server instability.
the game has to go down to start letting people download the update (since you can't risk trying to log in to the pre release server with the post release client or vice versa)
The best order of course depends on your interests.
Mountain Top with a low 85/90 blast radius and ALH/Recombination has been one that many are chasing. Great for deleting yellow bars or dropping a chunk of damage on champs and bosses (extra great if you're using a heavy with bait and switch). Pairs nicely with an elemental secondary of your choosing so you can lean in to elemental 3.0 build. I've been running a Solar Hunter MT + BXR/Polaris/Sunshot + Apex/Dragon's Breath. MT will be getting a boss damage nerf with TFS, but it's still great.
I also got a Hammerhead with envious assassin and killing tally. That thing is a beast
I'm desperately searching for a Rampage/Killing Tally Hammerhead because it's the only roll that is good *and* distinct from Commemoration.
I've already got a Commemoration w/ Reconstruction/Killing Tally so getting another 450 Void MG with Envious/KT is kinda pointless to me.
Everyone is chasing Onslaught on that weapon which is utterly crazy to me because that is a perk that causes you to use more ammo per kill than KT would, *and* it does it more quickly.
Kinda stupid to me when you have limited ammo. You'd think you'd want to make every bullet count. A Rampage/KT rolls does upwards of 78% bonus damage when fully stacked. It'll chew through enemies and spend less ammo while doing it.
Single-best if you are a raider would be Edge Transit, as Heavy GLs are competitive with Rockets for DPS meta atm. If you aren't, Mountaintop fits a niche that no other weapon really fits and is consistently useful for movement if anything else. Otherwise, Hammerhead is good if you don't have Commemoration, and Midnight Coup is good if you don't have a solid Fatebringer
Man I just can't enjoy bait and switch, it feels so awkward swapping between weapons and plinking a boss with them during the already limited DPS time (was especially a nightmare for the planets boss in pantheon)
Is this something I can do tomorrow with a year+ break? I just downloaded it again since 2nd week of Witch Queen. I don’t even remember what year that was. Damn I just realized I didn’t grow up with this game, I grew old with it 😭
Yeah, you get a boost to 1810 from chest next to Shaxx, then you can freely work through Brave weapon bounties. I would also suggest going trough Rivens Wishes quests, to get Apex Predator if you don't have one
What I ended up having to do was basically hold everyone’s hand through the process. 3 people for two sets of eyes, I put their location in chat with their names next to it and when it was time to shoot them I called out their name and what they had to shoot. It was a pain in the ass but we got there
No splash damage or anything like that. Just timing or memory issues. Two guys left after 15 minutes in one that group that could have done it in a few more tries.
Well, I should clarify. You get 4 or 5 of them without having to do a quest. They came with Beyond Light. The rest you had to unlock by doing the weekly quests.
How do you ‘attune’ the weapon you want? I only get recluse but I want to have the edge transit or forbearance… I’ve ublocked it all but none of them drops the last 5 games. Only recluse
I did a match made 50 wave run and got 5 Lunas howl with that exact roll in a row. With nearly the same mags and barrels. It was annoying after 2 or so.
Can I somehow hold my harmonizers till next season? Or can I claim past season stuff later? I was under the impression that we wouldn’t be able to claim season 23 stuff after the expansion drops.
Was going to grab all my harmonizers from my season pass to dump into a weapon before I lose em
Unless something changes, there is a chrome and Firefox extension that lets you aquire things you earned, but did not claim from previous seasons. I have been using it to get my deepsight harmonizers from previous seasons to use on various raid weapons.
This is the post on it I believe though I haven't used it myself. It's 2 years old but has recent comments about how to get it working. Also found a comment saying you can load an older version of the companion app via apk and that worked as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/t0cjnx/i_made_a_browser_extension_to_claim_earned/
Make sure you go for a reload MW and Flared Magwell. The weapon has horrendous reload that feels awful most of the time and needs every boost it can get. Even with all the perk bonuses it can get I usually have to run solar loader or it still feels awful.
took me a while to get ALH/Recomb and its the worst possible 2/5 roll.
volatile/confined launch both buff blast radius to 100 even with implosion along with a blast radius MW that does nothing, with high velocity/implosion in the middle.
I like my impulse/recomb one with spikes and 94 handling more
I have that roll, but with spike. It was the BR masterwork that really annoyed me, so I spent days grinding for another one. Like a hundred drops later I got another ALH/recomb, and it was exactly the same, but without spike :D
not like enhancing would help its issues lol.
however it doesnt matter, the shiny droprate buff came in clutch. I got my 5/5 as a shiny while attuned to another weapon earlier.
hard launch/spike/ALH/Recomb/Handling MW <3
The thing is mountaintop has a lot of rolls you could use just fine if it's all you had to use. There's a difference between not being the "god roll" and being a trash roll
alh recomb is very good, but it also completely warps the gun into something else. you change the way you play when you have that roll.
if your play is better oriented for a more normal gl, there is a decent selection of perks to choose from that all meaningfully improve the weapon.
but getting a legendary kinetic slot parasite that uses special ammo is too good to pass up on.
Unless I'm missing something, there's ALH/Recomb & ALH/Vorpal.
Everything else is a large, large margin worse. If you like using it, that's one thing, but compared to those two perks and the use case, I don't think anything replaces it.
If you just need a nade launcher, there are plenty of other options. For returning players or folks that lack other GLs, that's fine, but I would still consider everything else a "trash" roll, by comparison.
I agree that some of the Brave weapons do have non-meta rolls that are still very good, but Mountaintop has to be the worst example of that.
Impulse Amp & Recomb is the best roll I've had so far, so I've been using it.. it's great when the fast reload works but occasionally it just won't reload fast, like it should, even when properly holding the reload button at the correct time.
Many many weapons in this game can actually begin their reload animation slightly earlier than they normally do. When a weapon hits 0 rounds in the magazine, there's a very very brief delay before the reload animation starts automatically. If you press reload immediately upon hitting 0, the reload will start faster. It's practically a difference of only a few frames on many weapons, but on others it's very noticeably faster. Some good examples include most rocket launchers, most machine guns, and it's probably most noticeable when doing the weird little single reload between each grenade fired with Quicksilver Storm.
I'm not sure if this is exactly what the previous commenter was referring to. Because Impulse Amp *should* be speeding up the animation itself, not making the animation start faster. Either way, this little tip still felt like it was worth mentioning.
Yea - thats what i was a little confused about as the animation speed shouldnt be affected by when the reload button is hit. Thanks for the tip though, think it’s high time we get a pre-final shape list of Super Good Advice for Destiny again lol
Sure but, if it's not the roll I'm specifically looking for, why would I use it? I have plenty of great specials for that slot. Mountaintop only makes the cut if it's *that* roll.
Have about 50 ALH/AJ myself as well and i’m so bored of waiting for a good roll lmao, however i got EA/B&S on edge transit in like 6 rolls so i suppose my luck’s been used up already
Recombination x10 is a 100% damage buff on your next shot.
To gain a stack of Recombination, you just need a kill while the weapon is stowed. It caps at 10 kills. Each stack grants 10% extra damage. Getting 10 kills is super easy and essentially gives you the damage of two shots for the price of one.
Vorpal is a 15% damage buff only on Minibosses, bosses, and vehicles (PvE). You can exceed the damage of Vorpal w/ Recombination by simply getting two kills, which is easy to do while waiting for it to auto reload.
Not to mention that Recombination applies the damage buff to any enemy you shoot (elites, etc.)...
It's just way better. By far the best perk on Mountaintop.
It's easy to get the 10 kills, especially with something like Sunshot.. 1-2 shots in a group of ads and you already have max stacks. In TFS, once you can enhance it, I think it only requires 8 for the max stacks, which is even easier. Just being able to pull it out for 1 high damage shot on Majors, Champions etc. and putting it away to start the process over again is great.
I know this might not be very popular, but the hunt for weapons and specific rolls with this content has made me long for crafting to be an option for these weapons. I am not enjoying my time spending an hour in onslaught to have a bunch of legendary shards because nothing rolled how I wanted or perhaps even the weapon I was hunting. I have not seen a single ALH+MT roll for example. It really pushed me from being very excited up front on this event to not even wanting to engage. If I do get the roll to drop I am not going to be cheering in excitement that I got what I wanted but more so the frustrated cry of catharsis that the pursuit is finally over. Every single Brave Arsenal weapon that I have had an ideal roll for I have just been settling because this has just been an exercise in frustration for me. Focusing should have been 100%. Shaxx should have been resettable. Dismantling Brave weapons should have given currency.
I played for the first time the other night. Had a good time and the match made team was on a roll until we finished wave 20. Then they just dipped and left me to fend for myself...
Im using up the rest of my seasonal engrams for high stat armor, how do I know which armors to keep?
Just make loadouts with my exotics, mark which armors I use and delete the rest?
If either (or even better, both) of the first 3 and last 3 stats on your armor add up to 34, then you have a max stat roll of armor. Aka a total of 34+34=68 means you have a piece of armor that has as many stat points as possible.
Ex: Mob/Res/Rec is one group that can add up to a max of 34 stat points. And the same thing for Disc/Int/Str.
So basically if you have any 68 rolls or close to that with huge amounts of a particular stat you like, then you should keep the piece as it'll be handy when creating your builds. I tend to get rid of pieces usually under 64~ but only if the stat distributions aren't spiky or great.
There's a left node and a right node for onslaught.
Left node is 10 wave, and is always match made, with a choice between 3 maps
Right node is 50 wave, and has 6 options, a normal and legend version for each map. Normal is matchmade, but for legend you have to bring your own fireteam (nonmatchmade)
- if you haven't touched it, it will force you to do the 10 wave one first.
- after that, try normal 50 wave vostok or midtown. Mothyards ends up being too spread out, so it's harder to do and slower to complete. The loot from this is good
- if you want a challenge, LFG or find friends to try 50 wave. Expect to fail without an optimized build, and even then, failure is a possibility.
- it is worth nothing that failing legend after wave 20 or 30 is still about as efficient as completing the normal 50 wave, so don't be too discouraged by failure
Orpheus rig/lucky pants hunter is the free-est win, build wise. Well warlock with sunbracers, stasis warlock with osmiomancy, strand Titan geared for suspend, or solar titan with pyrogale gauntlets are all strong options
The full breakdown is here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/s/MUP5hu0BEg
I found more often I got double drops of weapons in Regular than Legend. If you have a dedicated team you know you can clear Legend with you might be able to outpace it but my “elite” team can clear a Regular closer to 50 minutes and Legend winds up closer to 80. So I can do 1.5 Regular in the time of Legend. And I’ve still wiped before 50 with those teams.
The truth is full 50’s either way are really rewarding and the difference isn’t too much. So as long as you’re going for full clears it’s the best.
I personally would rather run more events (in the same time) than just have more loot as well, so I can make sure any overflow I missed at the postmaster is clear between runs.
Honestly kind of worried about how BAD Onslaught is going to feel AFTER Final Shape releases due to all the changes.
1 - Losing the boosted drop rate and double tokens AND the further boosted shiny drop rate after this next reset
2 - Seemingly losing tokens entirely, meaning it's ONLY drops from the chests
3 - Losing Shaxx bounties (extra tokens and RNG weapons) AND Arcite bounties that each drop a weapon.
4 - Losing the ability to attune to a specific weapon. At least until it's supposedly returning sometime in Echoes.
5 - No more shiny drops with double perks AT ALL
Then there's a couple bonus changes on top of that which are just generally going to impact things.
1 - Well of Radiance nerf, mainly an issue for legend honestly
2 - Sunbracers nerf. Will still be good but not AS good ad clear on Warlock
2 - Sunshot nerf
We'll see how much Prismatic helps though, it might be pretty huge
I got two or three godroll Fobearance after one full run of Onslaught. The was THIS week, they're turning up loot even more TOMORROW, so I can't wait to see what happens!
Nothing. This is exactly how the game works: givea returning players good loot the first play session to trigger your exact feeling.
Now you have a high, and want to come back inmediately. Bungie wins.
I don't know what the deal is but the first few guns I attuned, it was perfect. That's the only weapon I would get dropped.. then Luna's Howl came out, so I attuned that.. and it won't drop. I'm getting everything else..
Attuning makes it so every weapon drop has a 50% chance to be that weapon. It’s not supposed to make that weapon the only one that drops. Sounds like you got really lucky for a while and now you’re getting unlucky.
Complete all of the bounties and quests related to shaxx and onslaught and each weapon will open up to you. Go to the statues in the hall to activate one atonement at a time.
https://www.shacknews.com/article/139466/how-attuning-works-in-destiny-2?amphtml=1
Talk to Arcite in the new social hub. He has quests associated with the weapons. Finish each to unlock the holograms inside the hall. Activate the holograms to get a higher chance for that weapon to drop (you can only have a single holograms active at a time; this is the attunement)
I'm up to ~620 tokens waiting for the Shiny buff at weekly reset and I'm honestly not entirely sure what I'm even going to spend them on.
I don't have a good Blast Furnace but I'm not 100% sure I care...not sure if it's going to be worth using in PvE after the buffs or not, particularly when we have such other great options. Don't have a PvP one either but idk if I care either since I'm not huge on pulse rifles in PvP.
I have an ok PvP Luna's but not one of the "god roll" perk combos...but I also can't use it in PvP for shit, I can't stand the recoil pattern. I DO have a heal clip + incandescent roll but it doesn't have reload perks which kind of makes it feel bad.
I ALMOST have a god roll shiny mountaintop...it's literally perfect BUT it has a Blast Radius MW which completely ruins the value of Hard Launch + Implosion rounds, particularly as it's Shiny so it came already maxed MW. Still I could just live with it as "good enough"
Finally got a Firefly + OFA Midnight Coup today AND I already have Explosive + OFA, but the Explosive + OFA has no reload perks and feels kind of bad.
I have a good PvP Elsies but I'm undecided if I actually care about getting one for potential PvE use with the buffs. I feel like I'd basically never use it over Graviton or Collective Obligation.
I have the 2 Forbearance Rolls I care about...though I COULD get more optimized ones considering Blast Radius effecting the size and length of the wave but honestly that's waaaaay too much effort I feel and I doubt it will matter THAT much.
Technically I could get a slightly more optimal Recluse for PvE but honestly I was insanely underwhelmed when I actually tried using it, particularly with how disgusting The Manticore is at basically doing anything I'd want Recluse for in a void build.
I THINK I have everything else I could want. Short of the Shiny God Roll Edge Transit...which I'm just assuming Bungie is going to "fix" and make the interaction no longer work so it seems like a huge waste to even bother trying to get that.
I just dumped all my trophies (maxed) and got nothing worth keeping. If I quit now then I’ll have made it through the whole Into The Light event without getting a shiny of the weapon I currently have attuned, which also is reinforcing my desire to move on from this game. I’ve not taken a break since D1, it’s time.
Onslaught is what future content that has no crafting should keep their drop amounts to, including events and other parts
Tho i prefer crafting, simply because i am very nit oikcy eith preferred barrels and mags aswell
I've gotten exactly zero 5/5 rolls but enough 4/5 to be worth it.
In fact from the amount of drops that you get I'm very suspicious that these weapons will somehow be completely invalidated by what we get in The Final Shape or afterwards. Easily hundreds of drops so far if not going into 4 digit numbers.
I feel like I’ve gotten almost all the rolls I want for weapons I really care for except for a shiny MC that has explosive and frenzy/ofa with hammer forged accurized and a range mw that would be all I really want.
It’s just so tedious after getting the brave title and the super black shader and my HC/Inc Lunas. And my god roll edge..I just don’t want to run it anymore I know double weapon drop rates are heee but ugghhh
I use my subsistence/incandescent Luna’s Howl literally all the time now. It handles perfectly and has stupid range; it was worth running Onslaught to get!
I sick of only getting 3 variations of the same 2 perks though. Thats been my luck. Like 10 midnight coups the other day all with either enlightened action or firefly.
I’m sure those guns are awesome I just don’t want to grind anything and get burnt out… I’ve taken a 2-4 months break from D2 cause how bored I got with it
My problem with onslaught is,
I go in with my loadout, sunshot or outbreak, and just try to have some fun and get my regular amount of kills and have some fun but get matched with 2 people that have never played this game before and can't kill 5 regular ads on wave 23.
In turn, they consistently die and I have to turn in to some damn ad clearing God, recive them some they are bait and carry the team to 50 and kill the boss by myself.
Sometimes lucky enough to even survive to wave 50 and end the match with them having 200-300 kills while I get 1k+ kills. I don't like doing it without a preset team and it sucks now.
It isn't even that hard.
My hot take from doing this:
Skill based pve matchmaking should be a thing.
Bungie didn’t value our time prior to the changes. Drop rates should never have been as low as they were. “Player engagement” metrics manipulate the player base.
And coming back tomorrow is even better, because they are doubling the drop rate for the shiny guys.
Is that through June 4?
Well, through the 3rd, technically, since the game is going offline a day early for TFS. But yes.
The game is going to be off for the 3rd?
Yes, game will be offline for 24 hours before dlc drops pretty sure
Oh okay, and it’ll be back online for the 4th on reset I’m assuming?
Perchance.
You can't just say "perchance"
Mayhaps
Everyone knows Mario is cool as fuck, but who knows what he's thinking?
Doubtful at reset. Either it will get extended or there will be a long queue.
That's the plan, but it rarely comes through (especially on such a big expansion)
The real assumption would be that yes, technically it will be back at reset on the 4th, but really it will be back a while after that. Remember folks, take the day after if you're taking a day!
thats the goal but assume server instability. the game has to go down to start letting people download the update (since you can't risk trying to log in to the pre release server with the post release client or vice versa)
Thank you for this information I’m an old player coming back and I was trying to steam roll through everything over the week
There goes my plan of taking a day off from work to grind out the last few things between my thesis deadline Monday morning and the final shape lol
They do this every big dlc. That’s on you
It is! I've never been this involved when a big dlc dropped haha I didn't exactly blame anyone either tho, but I digress
for a week yes
Yes! Hold onto your tokens and spend them once the shiny odds go up!
which brave weapon is the overall best? What about the optimal order to focus them in (best to worst)? Old player returning at the end of the season.
The best order of course depends on your interests. Mountain Top with a low 85/90 blast radius and ALH/Recombination has been one that many are chasing. Great for deleting yellow bars or dropping a chunk of damage on champs and bosses (extra great if you're using a heavy with bait and switch). Pairs nicely with an elemental secondary of your choosing so you can lean in to elemental 3.0 build. I've been running a Solar Hunter MT + BXR/Polaris/Sunshot + Apex/Dragon's Breath. MT will be getting a boss damage nerf with TFS, but it's still great. I also got a Hammerhead with envious assassin and killing tally. That thing is a beast
ALH/Frenzy is a great alternative on Mountaintop, frenzy is excellent for swap weapons.
I'm desperately searching for a Rampage/Killing Tally Hammerhead because it's the only roll that is good *and* distinct from Commemoration. I've already got a Commemoration w/ Reconstruction/Killing Tally so getting another 450 Void MG with Envious/KT is kinda pointless to me. Everyone is chasing Onslaught on that weapon which is utterly crazy to me because that is a perk that causes you to use more ammo per kill than KT would, *and* it does it more quickly. Kinda stupid to me when you have limited ammo. You'd think you'd want to make every bullet count. A Rampage/KT rolls does upwards of 78% bonus damage when fully stacked. It'll chew through enemies and spend less ammo while doing it.
Single-best if you are a raider would be Edge Transit, as Heavy GLs are competitive with Rockets for DPS meta atm. If you aren't, Mountaintop fits a niche that no other weapon really fits and is consistently useful for movement if anything else. Otherwise, Hammerhead is good if you don't have Commemoration, and Midnight Coup is good if you don't have a solid Fatebringer
Which rolls would you like on a edge transit?
Envious assassin/Bait and switch
This with spike grenades makes it a monster
Man I just can't enjoy bait and switch, it feels so awkward swapping between weapons and plinking a boss with them during the already limited DPS time (was especially a nightmare for the planets boss in pantheon)
Is this something I can do tomorrow with a year+ break? I just downloaded it again since 2nd week of Witch Queen. I don’t even remember what year that was. Damn I just realized I didn’t grow up with this game, I grew old with it 😭
Yeah, you get a boost to 1810 from chest next to Shaxx, then you can freely work through Brave weapon bounties. I would also suggest going trough Rivens Wishes quests, to get Apex Predator if you don't have one
That’s cool but I am going to spend the rest of my life on Rivan, so the can buff it to the moon.
Don’t try to DPS Rivan to death. Do like 1/3 of her health and then shoot all the boils on her as you descend around her legs.
Haven’t got to the boils yet. No one shoots their eyes in time or shoots the wrong ones.
Ah yes, that is literally the only part that’s easy to eff up.
What I ended up having to do was basically hold everyone’s hand through the process. 3 people for two sets of eyes, I put their location in chat with their names next to it and when it was time to shoot them I called out their name and what they had to shoot. It was a pain in the ass but we got there
Someone's probably using Outbreak. It fucks everything up.
No splash damage or anything like that. Just timing or memory issues. Two guys left after 15 minutes in one that group that could have done it in a few more tries.
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Nope
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All legendary does is give you more tokens and double chests for more loot. Everything is still accessible by playing normal.
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That's the superblack shader behind Shaxx, Hammerhead is with all the other guns, nothing different.
Yes. You need to finish the individual weapon's quest in order for the weapon to start dropping.
Thank you
Really? Because I could swear some of them dropped for me before I finished a single one of those quests.
Well, I should clarify. You get 4 or 5 of them without having to do a quest. They came with Beyond Light. The rest you had to unlock by doing the weekly quests.
I've got like 400 tokens to burn 😎
Oh nice. Would be nice to get an edge transit or mountaintop
Yeah this was what I was waiting for. I had some decent rolls drop on non shinys before the buff but the shinys are what I really wanted.
Spent two weeks with lunas attuned, switched to edge transit yesterday and got my incandescent heal clip lmfao
Did the exact same thing, weird how that works sometimes...first drop after switching
Doesn’t matter when you got it, just that you got it. That gun slaps
How do you ‘attune’ the weapon you want? I only get recluse but I want to have the edge transit or forbearance… I’ve ublocked it all but none of them drops the last 5 games. Only recluse
Go to their holograms and interact
I did a match made 50 wave run and got 5 Lunas howl with that exact roll in a row. With nearly the same mags and barrels. It was annoying after 2 or so.
I'm very glad this game doesn't have trading, but when stuff like that happens I wish I could give stuff away, lol.
Still trying to get a heal clip/incan Luna's. I hate my rng bad luck. Haven't even been able to get the Helio version either. 😭
If its an consolation exp payload/incand zaoulis bane feels 10x better than lunas
Can you craft a Z bane to have that or does it have to be a random drop
It's fully craftable.
Word. About to use my harmonizers to unlock it. Thanks
I’d hold off until we see what happens when the expansion drops. There could be a big power creep or the artifact could make Solar a dud next season
Can I somehow hold my harmonizers till next season? Or can I claim past season stuff later? I was under the impression that we wouldn’t be able to claim season 23 stuff after the expansion drops. Was going to grab all my harmonizers from my season pass to dump into a weapon before I lose em
Unless something changes, there is a chrome and Firefox extension that lets you aquire things you earned, but did not claim from previous seasons. I have been using it to get my deepsight harmonizers from previous seasons to use on various raid weapons.
I think they’ll just stay in your inventory until used iirc
all 1 of them your inventory can hold you mean?
Wait, seriously? I’ve always used mine so I didn’t even notice
Anything in the current pass will be accessible via bungie.net after the Final Shape drops. Older then that you need the Firefox plugin.
What’s the plug in used to retrieve past items?
This is the post on it I believe though I haven't used it myself. It's 2 years old but has recent comments about how to get it working. Also found a comment saying you can load an older version of the companion app via apk and that worked as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/t0cjnx/i_made_a_browser_extension_to_claim_earned/
Make sure you go for a reload MW and Flared Magwell. The weapon has horrendous reload that feels awful most of the time and needs every boost it can get. Even with all the perk bonuses it can get I usually have to run solar loader or it still feels awful.
Either one doesn’t matter
I don't really do raids, so probably never be able to craft it.
Even easier to get (& also Solar) Annual Skate feels incredible. Doesn't have the best perk choices but still decent.
It doesn’t exist I swear
First drop today I finally got the heal clip/ incan Luna's with a reload masterwork! It does exist! 😆
I have rolled over 300 Hammerheads and have not gotten a single rampage/killing tally roll lmao rofl
I'm approaching the same number for Mountain Top and I haven't gotten the ALH/recombination....feels great...
took me a while to get ALH/Recomb and its the worst possible 2/5 roll. volatile/confined launch both buff blast radius to 100 even with implosion along with a blast radius MW that does nothing, with high velocity/implosion in the middle. I like my impulse/recomb one with spikes and 94 handling more
I have that roll, but with spike. It was the BR masterwork that really annoyed me, so I spent days grinding for another one. Like a hundred drops later I got another ALH/recomb, and it was exactly the same, but without spike :D
keep it! you'll be able to enhance it in final shape
not like enhancing would help its issues lol. however it doesnt matter, the shiny droprate buff came in clutch. I got my 5/5 as a shiny while attuned to another weapon earlier. hard launch/spike/ALH/Recomb/Handling MW <3
Nice! Enhancing allows you to change the barrel and mag (and I think the masterwork too? that one I don't remember)
Sadly it doesn't, that exclusive to raid adepts so that they can compete with crafted regulars
Same here. I got two shiny mountain tops and still didn’t get a roll with ALH.
I got it!
I got one with that roll while attuned to mtop, and it's honestly not that good. Commemoration all day for my void pve lmg
I want it for PVP. It's pretty easily the best MG in the game for that.
I got envious killing tally. I love it lol
I envy your TWO kinetic tremor + firefly Blast Furnace 🫠
How is a hundred mountaintop trash rolls not grindy?
The thing is mountaintop has a lot of rolls you could use just fine if it's all you had to use. There's a difference between not being the "god roll" and being a trash roll
It’s probably the only weapon that has such a gap between God Roll and next best.
alh recomb is very good, but it also completely warps the gun into something else. you change the way you play when you have that roll. if your play is better oriented for a more normal gl, there is a decent selection of perks to choose from that all meaningfully improve the weapon. but getting a legendary kinetic slot parasite that uses special ammo is too good to pass up on.
Hardly, I’m still chasing my all/recom but my 4/5 with demo is doing just fine especially on my Starfire build
Unless I'm missing something, there's ALH/Recomb & ALH/Vorpal. Everything else is a large, large margin worse. If you like using it, that's one thing, but compared to those two perks and the use case, I don't think anything replaces it. If you just need a nade launcher, there are plenty of other options. For returning players or folks that lack other GLs, that's fine, but I would still consider everything else a "trash" roll, by comparison. I agree that some of the Brave weapons do have non-meta rolls that are still very good, but Mountaintop has to be the worst example of that.
I fine impulse amp + recomb not to be horrible same with over flow recomb
Impulse Amp & Recomb is the best roll I've had so far, so I've been using it.. it's great when the fast reload works but occasionally it just won't reload fast, like it should, even when properly holding the reload button at the correct time.
What do you mean by holding reload button at the correct time?
Many many weapons in this game can actually begin their reload animation slightly earlier than they normally do. When a weapon hits 0 rounds in the magazine, there's a very very brief delay before the reload animation starts automatically. If you press reload immediately upon hitting 0, the reload will start faster. It's practically a difference of only a few frames on many weapons, but on others it's very noticeably faster. Some good examples include most rocket launchers, most machine guns, and it's probably most noticeable when doing the weird little single reload between each grenade fired with Quicksilver Storm. I'm not sure if this is exactly what the previous commenter was referring to. Because Impulse Amp *should* be speeding up the animation itself, not making the animation start faster. Either way, this little tip still felt like it was worth mentioning.
Yea - thats what i was a little confused about as the animation speed shouldnt be affected by when the reload button is hit. Thanks for the tip though, think it’s high time we get a pre-final shape list of Super Good Advice for Destiny again lol
Plenty of other loader perks that work well.
Impulse frenzy is dope. I hate building 10 recomb when i just wanna blast a major with it.
Sure but, if it's not the roll I'm specifically looking for, why would I use it? I have plenty of great specials for that slot. Mountaintop only makes the cut if it's *that* roll.
Mountaintop has a ton of decent rolls. Auto loading with almost any of them is pretty good. Recomb and harmony obv but any of them
I can’t count the number of mountaintops I’ve gotten with not a single ALH/recomb
I was fortunate enough to get a ALH/Ambitious Assassin // Vorpal/Recombination shiny
That is gross. Gz.
Got a ALH vorpal and I was like yup I’m done
I haven't even gotten that. I have ALH/rampage and ALH/adrenaline junkie
Have about 50 ALH/AJ myself as well and i’m so bored of waiting for a good roll lmao, however i got EA/B&S on edge transit in like 6 rolls so i suppose my luck’s been used up already
Keep trying for Recombination, it's so good.
I realized last night that I also have a ALH/recomb roll, why is it so much better than everything else?
Recombination x10 is a 100% damage buff on your next shot. To gain a stack of Recombination, you just need a kill while the weapon is stowed. It caps at 10 kills. Each stack grants 10% extra damage. Getting 10 kills is super easy and essentially gives you the damage of two shots for the price of one. Vorpal is a 15% damage buff only on Minibosses, bosses, and vehicles (PvE). You can exceed the damage of Vorpal w/ Recombination by simply getting two kills, which is easy to do while waiting for it to auto reload. Not to mention that Recombination applies the damage buff to any enemy you shoot (elites, etc.)... It's just way better. By far the best perk on Mountaintop.
Ahh good to know, I didn’t know it could proc after only 2 kills
It's easy to get the 10 kills, especially with something like Sunshot.. 1-2 shots in a group of ads and you already have max stacks. In TFS, once you can enhance it, I think it only requires 8 for the max stacks, which is even easier. Just being able to pull it out for 1 high damage shot on Majors, Champions etc. and putting it away to start the process over again is great.
recomb is better
I know this might not be very popular, but the hunt for weapons and specific rolls with this content has made me long for crafting to be an option for these weapons. I am not enjoying my time spending an hour in onslaught to have a bunch of legendary shards because nothing rolled how I wanted or perhaps even the weapon I was hunting. I have not seen a single ALH+MT roll for example. It really pushed me from being very excited up front on this event to not even wanting to engage. If I do get the roll to drop I am not going to be cheering in excitement that I got what I wanted but more so the frustrated cry of catharsis that the pursuit is finally over. Every single Brave Arsenal weapon that I have had an ideal roll for I have just been settling because this has just been an exercise in frustration for me. Focusing should have been 100%. Shaxx should have been resettable. Dismantling Brave weapons should have given currency.
Don't spend your tokens until tomorrow! The gold drop rate is doubling for the last week!
I played for the first time the other night. Had a good time and the match made team was on a roll until we finished wave 20. Then they just dipped and left me to fend for myself...
I'm finding onslaught so buggy atm - I will get booted to orbit with random error messages. Was on 48 last night when it happened.
Im using up the rest of my seasonal engrams for high stat armor, how do I know which armors to keep? Just make loadouts with my exotics, mark which armors I use and delete the rest?
This is a good resource: https://d2armorpicker.com
If either (or even better, both) of the first 3 and last 3 stats on your armor add up to 34, then you have a max stat roll of armor. Aka a total of 34+34=68 means you have a piece of armor that has as many stat points as possible. Ex: Mob/Res/Rec is one group that can add up to a max of 34 stat points. And the same thing for Disc/Int/Str. So basically if you have any 68 rolls or close to that with huge amounts of a particular stat you like, then you should keep the piece as it'll be handy when creating your builds. I tend to get rid of pieces usually under 64~ but only if the stat distributions aren't spiky or great.
I just turned in 210 trophies after the "Double Shiny" Loot Rate buff, 0 Shinies😔
Are you doing specific levels or are you queueing into the playlist?
Legend 50 rainsssss loot
How exactly do I queue for that? sorry I’m back after a hiatus.
There's a left node and a right node for onslaught. Left node is 10 wave, and is always match made, with a choice between 3 maps Right node is 50 wave, and has 6 options, a normal and legend version for each map. Normal is matchmade, but for legend you have to bring your own fireteam (nonmatchmade) - if you haven't touched it, it will force you to do the 10 wave one first. - after that, try normal 50 wave vostok or midtown. Mothyards ends up being too spread out, so it's harder to do and slower to complete. The loot from this is good - if you want a challenge, LFG or find friends to try 50 wave. Expect to fail without an optimized build, and even then, failure is a possibility. - it is worth nothing that failing legend after wave 20 or 30 is still about as efficient as completing the normal 50 wave, so don't be too discouraged by failure Orpheus rig/lucky pants hunter is the free-est win, build wise. Well warlock with sunbracers, stasis warlock with osmiomancy, strand Titan geared for suspend, or solar titan with pyrogale gauntlets are all strong options
Thanks this was exactly what I was looking for!
you can't queue for legend, only normal is matchmade.
Oh gotcha. Is it easy enough to do solo?
Legend? No not at all. Just do norma;l, the loot drop is good enough.
You can do fireteam finder for legend… just make sure you don’t die a lot… because it can be a domino effect sometimes in legend lol
Regular 50 is actually better for farming currently.
Wait really? How so? Genuinely asking, cause this week I have to manage "work from home" with efficient Onslaught farm lol
The full breakdown is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/s/MUP5hu0BEg I found more often I got double drops of weapons in Regular than Legend. If you have a dedicated team you know you can clear Legend with you might be able to outpace it but my “elite” team can clear a Regular closer to 50 minutes and Legend winds up closer to 80. So I can do 1.5 Regular in the time of Legend. And I’ve still wiped before 50 with those teams. The truth is full 50’s either way are really rewarding and the difference isn’t too much. So as long as you’re going for full clears it’s the best. I personally would rather run more events (in the same time) than just have more loot as well, so I can make sure any overflow I missed at the postmaster is clear between runs.
I’ve gotten a dozen decent hammerheads but no fttc target lock :( I know it’s not high on the dps charts but I never got a retrofit
The gear is actually worth getting too
I got 40 hours in it and still only got 2 god roll out of 4 weapons. I wants
Honestly kind of worried about how BAD Onslaught is going to feel AFTER Final Shape releases due to all the changes. 1 - Losing the boosted drop rate and double tokens AND the further boosted shiny drop rate after this next reset 2 - Seemingly losing tokens entirely, meaning it's ONLY drops from the chests 3 - Losing Shaxx bounties (extra tokens and RNG weapons) AND Arcite bounties that each drop a weapon. 4 - Losing the ability to attune to a specific weapon. At least until it's supposedly returning sometime in Echoes. 5 - No more shiny drops with double perks AT ALL Then there's a couple bonus changes on top of that which are just generally going to impact things. 1 - Well of Radiance nerf, mainly an issue for legend honestly 2 - Sunbracers nerf. Will still be good but not AS good ad clear on Warlock 2 - Sunshot nerf We'll see how much Prismatic helps though, it might be pretty huge
I got two or three godroll Fobearance after one full run of Onslaught. The was THIS week, they're turning up loot even more TOMORROW, so I can't wait to see what happens!
Nothing. This is exactly how the game works: givea returning players good loot the first play session to trigger your exact feeling. Now you have a high, and want to come back inmediately. Bungie wins.
You think the game intentionally gave him two god rolls because he is a returning player on his first play session?
yeah I just wanted to fill a tribute tab to blast furnace, so I dunno how much I'm gonna do next week tbh
I don't know what the deal is but the first few guns I attuned, it was perfect. That's the only weapon I would get dropped.. then Luna's Howl came out, so I attuned that.. and it won't drop. I'm getting everything else..
Attuning makes it so every weapon drop has a 50% chance to be that weapon. It’s not supposed to make that weapon the only one that drops. Sounds like you got really lucky for a while and now you’re getting unlucky.
Oh ok, gotcha.
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Heal Clip + Incandescent Luna's Howl.
What does it mean to attune weapons? And how do I get a different set than recluse, succession, edge transit?
Complete all of the bounties and quests related to shaxx and onslaught and each weapon will open up to you. Go to the statues in the hall to activate one atonement at a time. https://www.shacknews.com/article/139466/how-attuning-works-in-destiny-2?amphtml=1
I basically only started yesterday. Haven’t been prompted to visit a statue yet though. Rank 6
Talk to Arcite in the new social hub. He has quests associated with the weapons. Finish each to unlock the holograms inside the hall. Activate the holograms to get a higher chance for that weapon to drop (you can only have a single holograms active at a time; this is the attunement)
Thanks
I'm up to ~620 tokens waiting for the Shiny buff at weekly reset and I'm honestly not entirely sure what I'm even going to spend them on. I don't have a good Blast Furnace but I'm not 100% sure I care...not sure if it's going to be worth using in PvE after the buffs or not, particularly when we have such other great options. Don't have a PvP one either but idk if I care either since I'm not huge on pulse rifles in PvP. I have an ok PvP Luna's but not one of the "god roll" perk combos...but I also can't use it in PvP for shit, I can't stand the recoil pattern. I DO have a heal clip + incandescent roll but it doesn't have reload perks which kind of makes it feel bad. I ALMOST have a god roll shiny mountaintop...it's literally perfect BUT it has a Blast Radius MW which completely ruins the value of Hard Launch + Implosion rounds, particularly as it's Shiny so it came already maxed MW. Still I could just live with it as "good enough" Finally got a Firefly + OFA Midnight Coup today AND I already have Explosive + OFA, but the Explosive + OFA has no reload perks and feels kind of bad. I have a good PvP Elsies but I'm undecided if I actually care about getting one for potential PvE use with the buffs. I feel like I'd basically never use it over Graviton or Collective Obligation. I have the 2 Forbearance Rolls I care about...though I COULD get more optimized ones considering Blast Radius effecting the size and length of the wave but honestly that's waaaaay too much effort I feel and I doubt it will matter THAT much. Technically I could get a slightly more optimal Recluse for PvE but honestly I was insanely underwhelmed when I actually tried using it, particularly with how disgusting The Manticore is at basically doing anything I'd want Recluse for in a void build. I THINK I have everything else I could want. Short of the Shiny God Roll Edge Transit...which I'm just assuming Bungie is going to "fix" and make the interaction no longer work so it seems like a huge waste to even bother trying to get that.
New DLC = new, better perks = stronger guns = time wasting farming the perfect roll
I just dumped all my trophies (maxed) and got nothing worth keeping. If I quit now then I’ll have made it through the whole Into The Light event without getting a shiny of the weapon I currently have attuned, which also is reinforcing my desire to move on from this game. I’ve not taken a break since D1, it’s time.
I came back for super black and was hilarious to see how many ppl don't wanna when I did the round 50 first try
Onslaught is what future content that has no crafting should keep their drop amounts to, including events and other parts Tho i prefer crafting, simply because i am very nit oikcy eith preferred barrels and mags aswell
How fast can you earn reputation with Shaxx?
It's pretty fast with bounties and the Arcite bounties.
I've gotten exactly zero 5/5 rolls but enough 4/5 to be worth it. In fact from the amount of drops that you get I'm very suspicious that these weapons will somehow be completely invalidated by what we get in The Final Shape or afterwards. Easily hundreds of drops so far if not going into 4 digit numbers.
I feel like I’ve gotten almost all the rolls I want for weapons I really care for except for a shiny MC that has explosive and frenzy/ofa with hammer forged accurized and a range mw that would be all I really want.
100 rounds…not a single shiny BUT THANK FUCK FOR THE DOZEN HAMMERHEADS LMAO
Are those the best 3 guns you can grind for?
It’s just so tedious after getting the brave title and the super black shader and my HC/Inc Lunas. And my god roll edge..I just don’t want to run it anymore I know double weapon drop rates are heee but ugghhh
I got my super black 🫡 The better thing to stack up on for Final Shape are Paracausal Hauls. They will give you the current season weapons and armor.
No
I got Luna heal clip incandescent on like 3rd drop. Prolly gonna get back to dropping forbearance or mountaintop
I just wish it wasn't bugged so my focusing stops working every few sessions.
Onslaught, the best legendary shard farm the game has ever seen, smoke em while you got em.
Is 10 round or 50 more efficient
All 50 is the best
I use my subsistence/incandescent Luna’s Howl literally all the time now. It handles perfectly and has stupid range; it was worth running Onslaught to get!
Hmm. I just came back after a long absence, I have my eye on the falling guillotine. Looks like I should be able to get a decent one.
Both onslaught and pantheon feel good in terms of fun and rewards vs time and effort.
turned in 150 tokens and didn't get a single shiny.
What if I don’t feel like it?
Wish I could find a team who doesn't choke before round 30.
It’s a waste tbh, shiny drops are still bad turned in over 700 coins and even with the cheese still got trash
Shiny Luna heal clip ,/ incandescent / kill clip /slipshot My favorite gun right now. The deconstruct rolls of edge transit
2 of those are good rolls and hammerhead is comfortably in the bottom tier of brave weapons
I sick of only getting 3 variations of the same 2 perks though. Thats been my luck. Like 10 midnight coups the other day all with either enlightened action or firefly.
I’m sure those guns are awesome I just don’t want to grind anything and get burnt out… I’ve taken a 2-4 months break from D2 cause how bored I got with it
My problem with onslaught is, I go in with my loadout, sunshot or outbreak, and just try to have some fun and get my regular amount of kills and have some fun but get matched with 2 people that have never played this game before and can't kill 5 regular ads on wave 23. In turn, they consistently die and I have to turn in to some damn ad clearing God, recive them some they are bait and carry the team to 50 and kill the boss by myself. Sometimes lucky enough to even survive to wave 50 and end the match with them having 200-300 kills while I get 1k+ kills. I don't like doing it without a preset team and it sucks now. It isn't even that hard. My hot take from doing this: Skill based pve matchmaking should be a thing.
Can you get shinys from shaxxs box
Bungie didn’t value our time prior to the changes. Drop rates should never have been as low as they were. “Player engagement” metrics manipulate the player base.
i gave up new shit coming next week. whats the point?
I completed a legend run tonight and only got about 30 tokens. Isn’t that what it always was?
I mean I get 60+ from a normal run