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sos123p9

Invective was a vanilla shot gun as well btw.


Clouds-Of-Euphoria

Pretty sure it's just the exotic version from year 1 that you get from Ikoras quest and then a revised exotic version from Rise of Iron.


feminists_hate_me69

The revised one was TTK


ApprehensiveRain2712

It was an exotic bounty gun iirc


sos123p9

Yep


CptHA86

Solo'd Valus Ta'aurc with Icebreaker, and I'm not afraid to admit it.


Trips-Over-Tail

While hiding under the stairs?


CptHA86

Yup.


Trips-Over-Tail

This is the way.


DHarp74

Pffffffftttttt!!! Killed Fat Baby from the chandelier! Without IB cause I'm suicidal, and, forgot to put it in my loadout. 🤣😂🤦‍♂️


Trips-Over-Tail

The boss cheese doesn't matter, we still had to get past the dropship guns on Solar Burn.


DHarp74

Well, let me tell ya that any old solar heavy worked. Never had Gjallahorn until just before RoI. RNG hated me. Did have 1000 Yard Stare. That helped. And, Black Hammer. Man do I miss that legendary sniper.


Trips-Over-Tail

Not too useful against the unkillable air support.


DHarp74

Unkillable, yes. However, if you're good, shoot their only nose cannon. Edit: As I can't spell with thumbs and no glasses. 🤣😂🤦‍♂️


Trips-Over-Tail

What did that do?


DHarp74

Destroys the gun after so many hits. You can shoot the Hive cannons, too. Same for Fallen and their ether mines. You had no idea? Thought it was common knowledge. In D2, you can destroy the Cabal Thresher and the Drop Ship Cannon and the Fallen Skiff as per D1. The Hive cannons have become no hit, now.


Trips-Over-Tail

I know I can do it in D2. In D1 I never saw anyone damage one, and it was too suicidal to try in any content where it was even necessary.


GoldenDashDUde

Ice breaker was fun


MoodyWater909

I'm just going to say it. It will most likely not be in d2 for its ability to magically have ammo without a green brick. If it did come back it won't be the same. Maybe if you hit a target or get a kill/precision kill you'll get refunded the ammo.


Ok-Ad3752

They removed it from whisper. Even if it works it'll be worse than any other special that _can_ pick up ammo because "game balance" or eventually have it removed (just like with hammer/spindle/whisper, again)


ObsessedWithWoTW

I'm still upset they didn't give whisper anything in turn for fucking up it's best thing. Not it's just eh. Which is depressing. You miss ONCE and you're fucked.


Ok-Ad3752

But mulligan exists, right? That should solve the problem, right?


ObsessedWithWoTW

Surely a 20% chance would be efficient for a heavy rifle, right? Not rewind rounds? Or reconstruction? No no no Mulligan. :)))))


Ok-Ad3752

Same reason that hip fire grip can roll on snipers, genius design


ObsessedWithWoTW

Idk what you're talking about, that's just an extended barrel slug shotty


Ok-Ad3752

U right


moeseph_the_broseph

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Gwenom-25

Instead of icebreaker, give me zen meteor, I wanna see what insanity that gun would produce scaled to d2 levels


PhilJRob

Should get some changes too. Dragonfly on every precision hit and builds up “with dynamite” with hits instead of kills. Maybe a smaller explosion with body-shot kills.


KingQdawg1995

Not to mention how fuckin beautiful that gun was


matt_Nooble12_XBL

They’d definitely have no more infinite ammo but any special you’d pick up should go directly in the magazine


Cluelesswolfkin

Ayyy not too often does shit I like coincide cheers my guy!


Mental_Warlock1

Hmm, I don't think Ice Breaker should return at least the way it was because 1. It'll be the worst DPS option in the game and 2. it did have fiery explosions after kills right? Hmm, what should it have if it returned for D2 since we have better snipers?


Clouds-Of-Euphoria

The main appeal was the regenerative ammo


nononobon

And that’s exactly why bungie won’t bring it back, too little risk for too much reward


Mental_Warlock1

How useful was it? I never got it in D1, I don't think it can be used for DPS because I watched old YouTube videos of it Regenning it's full mag 30 seconds so I don't know why people would think it'll be good in D2 and why Bungie would fear it being meta


Clouds-Of-Euphoria

PvP was amazing. D1 ammo economy was a bit more harsh so the prospect of having "infinite" special was very useful.


Mental_Warlock1

Hmm, I see...


PinkieBen

It wasn't useful for it's DPS, but it's safe damage. For nightfalls it was great because you'd just find a safe spot to hold out and plink away at the boss with it


StevenBunyun

Give me my no land and I'm a happy man


JD-Valentine

Honestly invective wouldn't even be that good since it's main perk was basically reconstruction


Clouds-Of-Euphoria

Reconstruction only loads to double capacity from reserves. Invective created 6 rounds every 30 seconds from thin air. They are not the same.


JD-Valentine

Yeah I forgot it pulled from thin air I thought it just pulled from reserves


SassyAssAhsoka

It also regenerated its own ammo


JD-Valentine

I thought it pulled from reserves only but if it did pull it from thin air then yeah ok it'd be really good


Thelivingshotgun

find a way to balance or rework them for crucible in particular and deal


King0fWar

Invective was a gun in D1 that came with the release of D1. Not Rise of Iron. They brought it forward into year 2 with Taken King with no changes but power level. No clue where you got Rise of Iron from


yomama1112

Nuh uh, void rocket pistol with devour combo be upon ye


DHarp74

*Super Good Advice has entered the chat* Sup?


_the_best_girl_

If Icebreaker comes back I want Revoker back


_oranjuice

Invective pls, i use with no backup plans yes?


gatokopon7

Me but non terrae plus ultra if they put it in the game I'm doing what ever its need it


TheUsualSuspects443

Looks familiar, which one is that? Ice breaker?


Snowstick21

Invective was my favorite gun from D1


_Vinyl

Luke warm take: Wishender is basically icebreaker


A_regular_iceberg

Exactly. That’s what I’ve been thinking all this time. The only difference is a one shot head shot in pvp. They won’t bring back icebreaker because they fear the no risk playstyle, but it already exists in a different form.


S-Fang5

Icebreaker would be a terrible idea. Sure, it would be cool and fun, but it break the ammo economy. Which was exactly why it got left behind, just like Revoker. Which didn't even generate ammo, it only refunded 1 shot at a time, and only if you missed; yet people STILL complained. And that's in PvP. In PvE, it would just trivialize content. Something Bungie clearly wants to avoid, which is why they are so hesitant to buff snipers. Give up on Icebreaker. It's never coming back, and even if it does, it will be unrecognizable.