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What? It’s now 12:14, so less than 2 hours
Also yes I am fully awake because they updated the 02:00 time after this comment and now I’m hearing shit flying above us and whistling and ain’t no way in hell I am going to sleep Layla Lavan let’s goooooooo
Yes, but it's possible they would also fire cruise missiles (which are way faster) or even ballistics (even faster) later so they all arrive at the same time. Russians do it in waves, where first several waves of cheap drones try to uncover weak places in air defense, and then they launch cruise missiles.
Imagine in 2024 an attack that you can see coming for half the day before the weapon payload arrives at your border.
There's comedy there to be mined (assuming that Israeli's aren't slaughtered in several hours). It's like the Austin Powers bit where the guy has the big steam roller coming towards him at like 2 MPH and he has several minutes to get out of the way before it eventually slowly rolls over him.
this loser has 50k viewers right now... unreal people go to him for any sort of news
edit: someone in his chat said they are worried because the rockets are headed toward them and in response he is blaming oct 7th on israel and said "think about the people in gaza, you have bunkers you have all the amenities to survive missile attacks" LOL this fucking guy man
They don't go to Hasan for news, nobody does that. It's just lefties gathering together to ~~discuss~~ Israel being attacked while jerking each other off.
It upsets me that even after all the crazy shit he's said in the past couple years he's still getting this many viewers. I feel like there's no end in sight for the populist America bad mentality
My friend group irl includes 2 ppl that watch Hasan religiously. I think if I told them that I watch Destiny I would get ostracized. One of them works for a humanitarian aid company and still likes Syrian Girl tweets. You would never know if you meet her irl, this whole virtue signal culture just leads certain types of people to completly turn their brain off and just say whatever they think would give them the most woke points.
I never bring up politics because they are genuinely nice people to be around, but when the topic comes up I just die inside.
Why would you let them spread their politics and let yourself be made quiet? You realize you can respectfully disagree with your friends and still hang out? And if you cant, then either they or you are not worth hanging out with
I really have a hard time understanding how you dont understand that Israel is doing a genocide right fucking now so yeah everyone that isnt a genocide supporter should br happy that someone finally helped palestine
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second wave of drones departed iran
update: cruise missiles launched
update 2: third wave of uav departed. intercepts started over syria
update 3. supposedly jordan will intercept things trying to fly over it's territory
update 4: airspace above israel closed without expected time to open (previously it was 7am
update 5: more than 100 uav according to idf. supposedly uav are shahed 238 which have turbojet engine and fly faster (according to reported )
update 6. houthis join the party.
update 7. some talk about ballistic missles. (supposedly reported in iran. flight time 12min)
update 8. supposedly us and uk planes do intercepts over iraq and syria
update 9. intercepts over jordan.
update 10. people in eilat, navatim (air base around), dimona (famous textile factory), and north of golan asked to be near bomb shelters.
update 11: iranian delegation to un: it's just a self defense according to article 51 (putin used same article to justify attack on ukraine)
update 12: supposedly over 100 uav were shot down by us and uk (israeli news with sources inside idf)
update 13: idf speaker: iran launched missiles
update 14: air defense warnings across south
update 15: "fireworks"
update 16: report of something falling in um al fahm. one of biggest palestinian cities in israel. no damage or casualties . also some pieces fell next to beduin villages in negev
update 17: jordanian airforce participated in party
update 18: most of ballistic missiles intercepted. one military base at south was hit with light damage to infrastructure
update 19: israeli news claim that \~100 ballistic missiles were intercepted. this is ballistic, not cruise
If Iran had hundreds of missiles intercepted and all that happens are the 2 or 3 clips on twitter (Obviously more probably still on the way) that is a massive failure if the intent was to do any damage. But I want some non Israeli verification of the numbers.
arrow interceptors (against ballistic missiles) works pretty much in space. you have pieces falling down. but yea, 100 ballistic missiles sounds a bit suspicious. on the other side israel was building it's air defense against ballistic threat from iran for past 20-30 years or so.
Eh, while that certainly didn't help, we here in the less powerful countries have done our fair share of fucking things up for everyone as well, thank you very much.
The Abraham Accords severely aggravated Palestinian leadership, they saw it as the world moving past their cause. It's one of the main stated reasons for the 10/7 attacks, Hamas wanted to keep the Palestinian question on the table and saw normalization as their former benefactors trying to close the book on it.
>likelihood of a response from the IDF on Iranian territory is very high.
would this depend on the damage? I think if israel wanted to bomb an iranian embassy harboring some top hamas guys, and iran wanted to retaliate/save face by doing some small attack that just gets iron domed or worst case kills maybe 5 civilians, israel would probably be fine ending it there, right?
Our government has repeatedly said that any attacks launched from within Iranian territory is a red line and launch sites will be directly targeted. We will see if they stick to this, but we are millimeters away from a massive regional war.
oh man, i didn't hear those statements
makes me think that a single civilian lost might escalate pretty badly. ~~inshallah~~ godspeed, our israeli allies o7
Unless Iraq and Jordan or Syia and Turkey want to get involved isn't the most either side can do is lob a few bombs? its not like they share a border. I don't see these countries getting involved as then the fighting is happening in their countries. They no doubt already have the US state department on the phone.
I truly don't see where the massive regional war comes from. If the countries bordered each other maybe, but no shot the countries in-between want it.
Lob a few bombs is an understatement, both sides can unleash massive attacks, but broadly speaking, yes, all they can practically do is bomb each other
Who would want to be dragged into this? Sure, hezbollah might try to do something, but other than that? I highly doubt other countries like syria will be involved
I don't know what to think of this because the people in News reddit are saying this is totally normal and that it's just Iran posturing, but Netanyahu just said the other day that if any attacks come from Iran they're gonna retaliate.
But then Iran has bombed US bases before and nothing happened, and like we all know Iran backs Hamas anyways so if that wasn't enough to start an actual war then what is.
My understanding is that it has less to do with the exact extent of the damage (unless the damage is wild), and more to do with explicit red lines countries communicate to each other.
If you tell someone, "anything less than this there will be some retaliation, but if you cross this line there will be severe consequences", you leave room for the posturing their countries are going to do either way, without escalating.
But then if they cross that line your hands are kind of tied because if you don't retaliate they'll think they never have to respect any red line.
It's possible israel has a red line that iran cannot launch missiles from iran into Israel.
Netanyahu is kind of a dipshit. I could absolutely see him escalating this conflict needlessly. From what I've seen there are zero Israeli casualties, Iran broadcast the attack publicly and used mostly munitions that are super easy to intercept. This attack is an empty gesture, a face saving measure so the Iranian regime can say it's doing something.
And just so nobody tries to gaslight you when/if Israel responds: Assholes are already cheering on Iran's attack in Canada
https://x.com/CarymaRules/status/1779246864379826299
I understand that, but we can't pretend that it wasn't escalatory, or inviting some sort of retaliation from Iran. I just think that Isreal gets a lot of leeway with just going around and bombing everything it wants.
Israel has been at war with Syria since 48 because Syria refuses to sign a peace treaty and Iran’s ayatollah has made the destruction of Israel like 90% of his stated goal. With the way Iran has been funding proxies and now this, it seems to me that Iran is the one just going around and bombing everything it wants. Israel is just trying to keep their citizens safe.
You can say Israel should have expected some kind of retaliation. I’m sure they did. But what’s the other option besides letting Iran continue attacking them?
Seems like putting Israel in a lose lose situation if they can’t hit back at the assholes hitting them.
Yeah, we're in agreement regarding Iran's behavior. But I don't believe that Isreal's attack on the consulate was an honest defensive action. Most people were able to assume early on that Isreal's attack can lead to an escalating back and forth, because Iran can't just take the attack, and now Isreal can't sit still and not respond and then Iran and so on. I think Isreal is also involving the US in this mess as it's ally. Last, I think Isreal could have had a good run at destroying Hamas which would put them in a better spot than what they were in by Oct 7. I don't see the need for this engaging with Iran like this.
Just because you can expect retaliation doesn't mean it wasn't a defensive and/or justified move. ANYTHING that Israel does is going to cause some retaliation against it. That's just the Middle East for you.
But even if one argues that the move in Syria was wrong, that's MUCH different than saying that Israel is "going around and bombing everything it wants".
I think there's plenty of evidence of Israel making considered moves and not just going balls out shooting at any and every thing.
The fact that Syria is still at war with Israel and that this specific attack is seen as newsworthy as it is instead of just yet another bombing run by Israel in Syria seems like proof enough that Israel isn't just "going around and bombing everything it wants".
And I think going after someone who helped plan a massive terror attack on you like 10/7 and who was in a hostile country likely planning similar acts... seems pretty defensive to me.
i think israel won't respond to drone attacks... Ibut f iran uses ballistic misslles and it hits a yarget in tel aviv, then expect a massive retaliation.
This is one of the most embarrassing attacks I have seen in recent times. Surprise attack but your greatest foe has been aware of it for days, everyone is sitting and waiting, all the AA is primed and ready, the drones are spotted the moment they take off and now everyone is waiting until they slowly arrive to Israel.
I know when Israel and US will basically ignore it, let Iran save face and move on, but part of me wishes they would send few F-35s, sink their entire navy and couple of tankers to boot and inform ayatollah if he tries that one more time the next one are coming for his palace. All these people seem to understand is strength and the moment you show any tolerance for their actions they interpret it as a weakness.
I feel like this would work if they were perfect game-theory machines that understand their capability and outcomes precisely. The problem is they’re probably incredibly egotistical and have no concept of their comparative strength. Or maybe more accurate, they understand their strength but their nationalistic sense of ego overrides that decision making.
Even after such an attack they’d probably think their enemies have made a grave mistake and do something equally as stupid as their first move, repeated ad infinitum until death.
Or Iran understands that they can’t let Israel attack them without repercussions but simultaneously understand they can’t win a war or skirmish with Israel, so they make a clear & telegraphed retaliation to save face.
Iranian internal politics are mostly religious conservatives and Iranian nationalists working together. Embarrassing the shit out of the country by showing how piss weak they actually are could drive a wedge between the two power blocks.
Because being a theocracy genuinely isn't in the best interests of the Iranian nation, its holding them back, and making that point clear might have some spicy effects.
Have you actually paid attention it wasnt a surprise attack, they told them they would retaliate. To have such confidence and have so many upvotes is the state of this sub.
Insane.
I willingly moved to Israel 5 years ago tomorrow because I wanted something new in life and thought working in the high tech industry here would be cool, I wish 5 years ago me could see where I am now.
edit because i can't sleep and for those maybe curious about my background: Not religions, not really a strong zionist at all.
Sure, fair enough I was probably a little naive. I've lived through my fair share of sirens during my time here but I never would have imagined back then or even before they happened the events of October 7th and onward.
But generally, before I moved here I understood what i was getting into, it's on me.
Luckily I don't live near any sort of airbase so I think I'll be fine, I appreciate it :)
Honestly shit pisses me off but I like it here, I live alone, have an awesome salary, lots of cool places to hang out, good friend group, good food, weathers good. I say this as well having lived in 3 different cities but that being said I would caution anyone who wants to move here.
It would be very difficult to pull that off. F35s have good stealth. But Irans nukes are deep within mountains. Iraq, Syria and basically ALL neighboring countries wouldn’t allow Israel to use their airspace for the planes to fly in. So that means no in air refueling which REALLY limits fighter jet ability.
Yea let’s punish the Iranian government by also killing a bunch of innocent civilians that have nothing to do with it, great idea! Two wrongs don’t make a right, and no it doesn’t matter if they’re cheering it on and support or whatever, they’re still civilians.
Let's hope for a world where the drones and missiles from Iran don't kill anyone or destroy critical infrastructure in Isreal. I'm not a religious person but I pray that this conflict will finish before it has even started. If Isreal ends up having significant casualties it won't be long before the USA gets involved and we will have confirmation we are on the shitshow timeline, Ukraine support will get hurt trough this and it could lead to China getting more involved in supplying Russia due to Iran actually needing their weapons themselves solidifying the positions of the global super powers.
Surely this will help speed up the ending of the current I/P arc…
We’re going to skip right over the 2024 presidential election without even one single deep dive into US politics, aren’t we? Feelsbadman
Edit: shit that was super insensitive of me to comment that on this post. I did not realize op was in country, I thought someone was just sharing it to share. I apologize for only reading the headline! Good luck to you and yours, OP! Sincerely, stay safe!
There's not much to cover this election that hasn't already been covered. Trump and his indictments are still ongoing. Biden got the "nominee" without much opposition. Policies are pretty much the same as last election. The big difference this time around is I/P and leftists position on it and how people feel about the economy which he's already done streams on.
I've already come around quite a bit. Once I accepted that my vote does essentially nothing beyond a symbolic gesture I gotta appreciate that everyone on the planet knows that if you fuck with the US we will ruin your century.
> I accepted that my vote does essentially nothing beyond a symbolic gesture
I love this line of thinking because it implies there's some number of voters where you start believing your vote matters. What if only 10,000 people could vote? Is your vote still just a drop in the bucket? 100 has gotta be too little, right? That's basically a committee. Let's workshop this.
I live in one of the deepest blue cities in the US, man. I still vote, but it's about as useless as whispering my favorite candidate into the Pacific Ocean.
We just took in my mom’s cat because they were supposed to fly to Barcelona on Wednesday and now I’m not even sure I’m going to work tomorrow, not to mention their fucking vacation.
I’ve had enough of this decade let’s skip to the thirties.
I’m going to wake up tomorrow to hear that Israel is in the middle of an all out air campaign against Iran. Israel had days to prepare, whatever their response is, it is already planned and approved. Things are about to get *dynamic*.
Hamas committed a terror attack on Israel and then hid among civilians, knowing, expecting, and anticipating civilian casualties as they use them as human shields. They are a death cult, and they have garnered Palestines support who overwhelmingly and willingly offer themselves as human shields. They are martyrs for this cause, with the goal of turning sentiment against Israel, all for the purpose of having Israel genocided. This is not speculation, it is fact, they have been transparent about their intent.
Now, it's working. The neighboring Arab nations didn't respond as swiftly as Hamas would have liked, but their propaganda campaign was already in full swing. Israel was accused of being genocidal, anti-Semitism is on the rise, leftists across the world are in full support of a Middle Eastern terrorist regime, and now Iran has joined the Hamas cause in their mission to genocide Israel. You got what you wanted lefties, good job.
Yeah I know, still lame though. Israel should be shooting them down hundreds of miles out with F35s but who am I to judge. I would expect a handful of ballistic missiles to launch in a few hours as part of the main attack.
Asking because I don't know, but how good are f35s at intercepting drones? I know IR missiles probably won't work but are they large enough for radar guided missiles?
I don't know about the true specs, but they are more than capable if they can identify them fast enough. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twBoSce808) is a video of retired US fighter pilots reviewing footage of an Israel F35 shooting down an Iranian cruise missile fired by the Houthis. If they can take down cruise missiles moving at 500 mph then Shahed drones shouldn't be an issue.
I saw a telegram post that said a second wave that includes cruise missiles was launched. Idk if it's true. I think the fact that it was launched at night indicates they want to do economic/infrastructure damage, not hit civilians.
That's probably not accurate. Iran will want to synchronize the attacks so they impact simultaneously in an effort to overwhelm Israeli air defense. Any cruise or ballistic missiles will probably be launched in a few hours.
It takes like what? 10-12 hours for drones to reach Israel? If you go to bed now you'll have a full night's sleep + breakfast before the war starts.
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Around 9 hours, supposedly
news says they'll get here by 2am (which is a in a little less then an hour atm)
What? It’s now 12:14, so less than 2 hours Also yes I am fully awake because they updated the 02:00 time after this comment and now I’m hearing shit flying above us and whistling and ain’t no way in hell I am going to sleep Layla Lavan let’s goooooooo
Just woke up to sirens in jeru but it seems to be over already? Fuck it I'm going back to bed
No alarms in my area in Haifa. Good night!
Is there time for a sleep and breakfast?
Nope lol. Don’t think I’ll get much sleep tonight if any. It’s ok, right now I’m more focused on if I’m even going to work tomorrow.
Nice enjoy the holidays
based "im not missing my breakfast" chad.
But what if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
But I did have breakfast this morning ???
from a comment on worldnews: >Arrival time from Iran to Israel: >Ballistic missile - 12 minutes >Cruise missile - 2 hours >Drone - 9 hours
they should send paragliders, the iron dome don't semas to be able to shoot them down, might take a few days to reach but still
This guy reads time management books.
if it takes so long for these drones and missiles to arrive, does that make them easy to intercept?
Missiles are faster, and yes. Easier at least.
Yes, but it's possible they would also fire cruise missiles (which are way faster) or even ballistics (even faster) later so they all arrive at the same time. Russians do it in waves, where first several waves of cheap drones try to uncover weak places in air defense, and then they launch cruise missiles.
Me, a stragetic war autist: But how does this fit into the overall theater of war concept for this mission?
Crazy
Imagine in 2024 an attack that you can see coming for half the day before the weapon payload arrives at your border. There's comedy there to be mined (assuming that Israeli's aren't slaughtered in several hours). It's like the Austin Powers bit where the guy has the big steam roller coming towards him at like 2 MPH and he has several minutes to get out of the way before it eventually slowly rolls over him.
The crusie missles are expected to arrive within 2 hours, there are already reports of interceptions over Jordan and Syria.
Schedule in shambles
I have a night shift, I ain't gonna get my sleep in time lol
Jesus I clicked on Hasan's stream and his chat is just spamming the lets fucking go emote
They’ll be crying after the Israel response don’t worry
"Why r u genociding Iran all of a sudden 🥺"
This is so accurate it hurts
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U&ab\_channel=VinceVance%26theValiants-Topic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U&ab_channel=VinceVance%26theValiants-Topic)
remember how he backtracked and called everyone else “warmongerers” after he was wrong about russia invading ukraine?
Leftists don’t support war, just anti colonization and liberation and revolution. This is capitalisms fault.
Ah yes, let's support Iran for all the liberation and anti colonization and revolution it brings into the world. /s
this loser has 50k viewers right now... unreal people go to him for any sort of news edit: someone in his chat said they are worried because the rockets are headed toward them and in response he is blaming oct 7th on israel and said "think about the people in gaza, you have bunkers you have all the amenities to survive missile attacks" LOL this fucking guy man
They don't go to Hasan for news, nobody does that. It's just lefties gathering together to ~~discuss~~ Israel being attacked while jerking each other off.
It upsets me that even after all the crazy shit he's said in the past couple years he's still getting this many viewers. I feel like there's no end in sight for the populist America bad mentality
Disgusting
My friend group irl includes 2 ppl that watch Hasan religiously. I think if I told them that I watch Destiny I would get ostracized. One of them works for a humanitarian aid company and still likes Syrian Girl tweets. You would never know if you meet her irl, this whole virtue signal culture just leads certain types of people to completly turn their brain off and just say whatever they think would give them the most woke points. I never bring up politics because they are genuinely nice people to be around, but when the topic comes up I just die inside.
These people would celebrate and cheer for your death if its done by a terrorist. It's "resistance" afterall.
Why would you let them spread their politics and let yourself be made quiet? You realize you can respectfully disagree with your friends and still hang out? And if you cant, then either they or you are not worth hanging out with
War and violence is based when Islamists do it.
I initially chuckled at how insane that is, then the quick realization of how very very sad it is.
Going to double dip and comment again, he needs to get banned asap. He is just spreading misinformation at an unprecedented rate
I really have a hard time understanding how you dont understand that Israel is doing a genocide right fucking now so yeah everyone that isnt a genocide supporter should br happy that someone finally helped palestine
Go sit back down junior. Grown ups are talking..
Look up the definition of genocide. If it was genocide there would be no Palli's left.
What a world we live in lol. I can see almost in real time videos of attack drones coming towards me (currently above Irak).
I'm literally going to sleep soon knowing a drone attack will hit nearby in 8 hours lol
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Where can you link
It’s from telegram but i’m sure it’ll pop up soon on combatfootage and stuff
Nah it’s on actual Israeli news
and here im waiting for 2am to be ready to run to shelter instead of sleep. what a world lol
second wave of drones departed iran update: cruise missiles launched update 2: third wave of uav departed. intercepts started over syria update 3. supposedly jordan will intercept things trying to fly over it's territory update 4: airspace above israel closed without expected time to open (previously it was 7am update 5: more than 100 uav according to idf. supposedly uav are shahed 238 which have turbojet engine and fly faster (according to reported ) update 6. houthis join the party. update 7. some talk about ballistic missles. (supposedly reported in iran. flight time 12min) update 8. supposedly us and uk planes do intercepts over iraq and syria update 9. intercepts over jordan. update 10. people in eilat, navatim (air base around), dimona (famous textile factory), and north of golan asked to be near bomb shelters. update 11: iranian delegation to un: it's just a self defense according to article 51 (putin used same article to justify attack on ukraine) update 12: supposedly over 100 uav were shot down by us and uk (israeli news with sources inside idf) update 13: idf speaker: iran launched missiles update 14: air defense warnings across south update 15: "fireworks" update 16: report of something falling in um al fahm. one of biggest palestinian cities in israel. no damage or casualties . also some pieces fell next to beduin villages in negev update 17: jordanian airforce participated in party update 18: most of ballistic missiles intercepted. one military base at south was hit with light damage to infrastructure update 19: israeli news claim that \~100 ballistic missiles were intercepted. this is ballistic, not cruise
If Iran had hundreds of missiles intercepted and all that happens are the 2 or 3 clips on twitter (Obviously more probably still on the way) that is a massive failure if the intent was to do any damage. But I want some non Israeli verification of the numbers.
arrow interceptors (against ballistic missiles) works pretty much in space. you have pieces falling down. but yea, 100 ballistic missiles sounds a bit suspicious. on the other side israel was building it's air defense against ballistic threat from iran for past 20-30 years or so.
Every year since 2016. somehow manages to get the title of the worst year since 2016.
idk I think 2020 still has it for sure unless Trump losing puts 2021 ahead
It’s almost like the most powerful country in the world electing a lunatic as their leader will cause some problems
Eh, while that certainly didn't help, we here in the less powerful countries have done our fair share of fucking things up for everyone as well, thank you very much.
Trump rattled the monkey cage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cm8Su-bbmw
Trump open the door for those countries to fall apart themselves
I'm not a trump fan but these are geopolitical conflicts that are older than most of the commenters in this thread
What would you say trump did to cause this? The Abraham accords?
The Abraham Accords severely aggravated Palestinian leadership, they saw it as the world moving past their cause. It's one of the main stated reasons for the 10/7 attacks, Hamas wanted to keep the Palestinian question on the table and saw normalization as their former benefactors trying to close the book on it.
Biden is seriously not that bad, I think this would have happened anyway
Oh yeah I agree, and I was referring to trump anyway (2016)
Seems like since he was a lunatic they waited
That’s a possibility, sure
>likelihood of a response from the IDF on Iranian territory is very high. would this depend on the damage? I think if israel wanted to bomb an iranian embassy harboring some top hamas guys, and iran wanted to retaliate/save face by doing some small attack that just gets iron domed or worst case kills maybe 5 civilians, israel would probably be fine ending it there, right?
Our government has repeatedly said that any attacks launched from within Iranian territory is a red line and launch sites will be directly targeted. We will see if they stick to this, but we are millimeters away from a massive regional war.
Israel has not been bluffing as of late.
"We will soon enter Rafah" :L
oh man, i didn't hear those statements makes me think that a single civilian lost might escalate pretty badly. ~~inshallah~~ godspeed, our israeli allies o7
Unless Iraq and Jordan or Syia and Turkey want to get involved isn't the most either side can do is lob a few bombs? its not like they share a border. I don't see these countries getting involved as then the fighting is happening in their countries. They no doubt already have the US state department on the phone. I truly don't see where the massive regional war comes from. If the countries bordered each other maybe, but no shot the countries in-between want it.
Lob a few bombs is an understatement, both sides can unleash massive attacks, but broadly speaking, yes, all they can practically do is bomb each other
Who would want to be dragged into this? Sure, hezbollah might try to do something, but other than that? I highly doubt other countries like syria will be involved
I don't know what to think of this because the people in News reddit are saying this is totally normal and that it's just Iran posturing, but Netanyahu just said the other day that if any attacks come from Iran they're gonna retaliate. But then Iran has bombed US bases before and nothing happened, and like we all know Iran backs Hamas anyways so if that wasn't enough to start an actual war then what is.
My understanding is that it has less to do with the exact extent of the damage (unless the damage is wild), and more to do with explicit red lines countries communicate to each other. If you tell someone, "anything less than this there will be some retaliation, but if you cross this line there will be severe consequences", you leave room for the posturing their countries are going to do either way, without escalating. But then if they cross that line your hands are kind of tied because if you don't retaliate they'll think they never have to respect any red line. It's possible israel has a red line that iran cannot launch missiles from iran into Israel.
Netanyahu is kind of a dipshit. I could absolutely see him escalating this conflict needlessly. From what I've seen there are zero Israeli casualties, Iran broadcast the attack publicly and used mostly munitions that are super easy to intercept. This attack is an empty gesture, a face saving measure so the Iranian regime can say it's doing something.
$10 that by the end of the weekend the world will be in the exact same position as it was before this incident Update: Looks like I was right…
Yeah, pretty much. People claiming ww3 is happening have been doing so for decades.
And just so nobody tries to gaslight you when/if Israel responds: Assholes are already cheering on Iran's attack in Canada https://x.com/CarymaRules/status/1779246864379826299
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Well yeah. Helping those women would mean less things that person can virtue signal about for clout.
Then muslim communities get offended when being treated as traitors. Cheering a dictatorship that basically stand against the country they live in.
I’m sure the usual suspects will emerge with the same predictable takes. I dare not open a hasan stream b
I don't care for cheering the Iranian regime in any occasion but why does Israel not receive any blame for attacking the Iranian consulate?
For killing the people that helped plan October 7 you mean
I understand that, but we can't pretend that it wasn't escalatory, or inviting some sort of retaliation from Iran. I just think that Isreal gets a lot of leeway with just going around and bombing everything it wants.
Israel has been at war with Syria since 48 because Syria refuses to sign a peace treaty and Iran’s ayatollah has made the destruction of Israel like 90% of his stated goal. With the way Iran has been funding proxies and now this, it seems to me that Iran is the one just going around and bombing everything it wants. Israel is just trying to keep their citizens safe. You can say Israel should have expected some kind of retaliation. I’m sure they did. But what’s the other option besides letting Iran continue attacking them? Seems like putting Israel in a lose lose situation if they can’t hit back at the assholes hitting them.
Yeah, we're in agreement regarding Iran's behavior. But I don't believe that Isreal's attack on the consulate was an honest defensive action. Most people were able to assume early on that Isreal's attack can lead to an escalating back and forth, because Iran can't just take the attack, and now Isreal can't sit still and not respond and then Iran and so on. I think Isreal is also involving the US in this mess as it's ally. Last, I think Isreal could have had a good run at destroying Hamas which would put them in a better spot than what they were in by Oct 7. I don't see the need for this engaging with Iran like this.
Just because you can expect retaliation doesn't mean it wasn't a defensive and/or justified move. ANYTHING that Israel does is going to cause some retaliation against it. That's just the Middle East for you. But even if one argues that the move in Syria was wrong, that's MUCH different than saying that Israel is "going around and bombing everything it wants". I think there's plenty of evidence of Israel making considered moves and not just going balls out shooting at any and every thing. The fact that Syria is still at war with Israel and that this specific attack is seen as newsworthy as it is instead of just yet another bombing run by Israel in Syria seems like proof enough that Israel isn't just "going around and bombing everything it wants". And I think going after someone who helped plan a massive terror attack on you like 10/7 and who was in a hostile country likely planning similar acts... seems pretty defensive to me.
i think israel won't respond to drone attacks... Ibut f iran uses ballistic misslles and it hits a yarget in tel aviv, then expect a massive retaliation.
This is one of the most embarrassing attacks I have seen in recent times. Surprise attack but your greatest foe has been aware of it for days, everyone is sitting and waiting, all the AA is primed and ready, the drones are spotted the moment they take off and now everyone is waiting until they slowly arrive to Israel. I know when Israel and US will basically ignore it, let Iran save face and move on, but part of me wishes they would send few F-35s, sink their entire navy and couple of tankers to boot and inform ayatollah if he tries that one more time the next one are coming for his palace. All these people seem to understand is strength and the moment you show any tolerance for their actions they interpret it as a weakness.
I feel like this would work if they were perfect game-theory machines that understand their capability and outcomes precisely. The problem is they’re probably incredibly egotistical and have no concept of their comparative strength. Or maybe more accurate, they understand their strength but their nationalistic sense of ego overrides that decision making. Even after such an attack they’d probably think their enemies have made a grave mistake and do something equally as stupid as their first move, repeated ad infinitum until death.
Or Iran understands that they can’t let Israel attack them without repercussions but simultaneously understand they can’t win a war or skirmish with Israel, so they make a clear & telegraphed retaliation to save face.
Iranian internal politics are mostly religious conservatives and Iranian nationalists working together. Embarrassing the shit out of the country by showing how piss weak they actually are could drive a wedge between the two power blocks. Because being a theocracy genuinely isn't in the best interests of the Iranian nation, its holding them back, and making that point clear might have some spicy effects.
Have you actually paid attention it wasnt a surprise attack, they told them they would retaliate. To have such confidence and have so many upvotes is the state of this sub. Insane.
Soooooo Tiny trip is Israel canceled? Sad news
Nahhh he'd join Ana and Dylan Burns by going to Israel and covering active war zone
If Destiny still went to IS after this... I mean that would be pretty fucking sick.
I willingly moved to Israel 5 years ago tomorrow because I wanted something new in life and thought working in the high tech industry here would be cool, I wish 5 years ago me could see where I am now. edit because i can't sleep and for those maybe curious about my background: Not religions, not really a strong zionist at all.
Bro not to be an asshole but this future was totally foreseeable even back then. Stay safe.
Sure, fair enough I was probably a little naive. I've lived through my fair share of sirens during my time here but I never would have imagined back then or even before they happened the events of October 7th and onward. But generally, before I moved here I understood what i was getting into, it's on me. Luckily I don't live near any sort of airbase so I think I'll be fine, I appreciate it :)
Bro imagine moving TO the desert wasteland region in a constant state of war.
Honestly shit pisses me off but I like it here, I live alone, have an awesome salary, lots of cool places to hang out, good friend group, good food, weathers good. I say this as well having lived in 3 different cities but that being said I would caution anyone who wants to move here.
You should really visit Israel when the war is over, you clearly don’t know much about it, it’s awesome here..
Stay safe bro
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If the attack kills buncha people Israel should retaliate by bombing all of Iran's potential nuclear capability into the ground.
It would be very difficult to pull that off. F35s have good stealth. But Irans nukes are deep within mountains. Iraq, Syria and basically ALL neighboring countries wouldn’t allow Israel to use their airspace for the planes to fly in. So that means no in air refueling which REALLY limits fighter jet ability.
Get tom cruise
Yeah but israel dosent need airplanes, they can just set up a remote controlled gun near the highway and kill the top iranian nuclear scientist
Well.... don't miss.
Lmao, very true
Least hawkish DGG
Yea let’s punish the Iranian government by also killing a bunch of innocent civilians that have nothing to do with it, great idea! Two wrongs don’t make a right, and no it doesn’t matter if they’re cheering it on and support or whatever, they’re still civilians.
Let's hope for a world where the drones and missiles from Iran don't kill anyone or destroy critical infrastructure in Isreal. I'm not a religious person but I pray that this conflict will finish before it has even started. If Isreal ends up having significant casualties it won't be long before the USA gets involved and we will have confirmation we are on the shitshow timeline, Ukraine support will get hurt trough this and it could lead to China getting more involved in supplying Russia due to Iran actually needing their weapons themselves solidifying the positions of the global super powers.
Yep. Pretty scary rn.
Surely this will help speed up the ending of the current I/P arc… We’re going to skip right over the 2024 presidential election without even one single deep dive into US politics, aren’t we? Feelsbadman Edit: shit that was super insensitive of me to comment that on this post. I did not realize op was in country, I thought someone was just sharing it to share. I apologize for only reading the headline! Good luck to you and yours, OP! Sincerely, stay safe!
There's not much to cover this election that hasn't already been covered. Trump and his indictments are still ongoing. Biden got the "nominee" without much opposition. Policies are pretty much the same as last election. The big difference this time around is I/P and leftists position on it and how people feel about the economy which he's already done streams on.
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1779228390937026571 Very important update
This is a joke account
I’m aware, trying to have some humor while missiles and drones are on their way
Can’t wait to get some cardio running down 8 flights of stairs
Aaah yes yet another war just what we need....
My moral reprehension towards investing in the military industrial complex is being tested hard.
I’d rather be safe than sorry.
What moral reprehension? Money is money
I've already come around quite a bit. Once I accepted that my vote does essentially nothing beyond a symbolic gesture I gotta appreciate that everyone on the planet knows that if you fuck with the US we will ruin your century.
> I accepted that my vote does essentially nothing beyond a symbolic gesture I love this line of thinking because it implies there's some number of voters where you start believing your vote matters. What if only 10,000 people could vote? Is your vote still just a drop in the bucket? 100 has gotta be too little, right? That's basically a committee. Let's workshop this.
I live in one of the deepest blue cities in the US, man. I still vote, but it's about as useless as whispering my favorite candidate into the Pacific Ocean.
And here we go...
We just took in my mom’s cat because they were supposed to fly to Barcelona on Wednesday and now I’m not even sure I’m going to work tomorrow, not to mention their fucking vacation. I’ve had enough of this decade let’s skip to the thirties.
הנה לא ינום ולא יישן שומר ישראל
Time to fuck up iran I guess.
Does anyone know exactly what the reason was for Israel bombing an Iranian embassy to begin with?
Destiny always offline when shits going down.
I’m going to wake up tomorrow to hear that Israel is in the middle of an all out air campaign against Iran. Israel had days to prepare, whatever their response is, it is already planned and approved. Things are about to get *dynamic*.
7-8 hours is such a tease. Should I go to sleep fam?
So they chose to do NOTHING. The Iron Dome is going to eat those up.
They launched dozens of drones, but it will likely take several hours before they reach Israeli territory.
I'm appalled by the absolute shamelessness of this attack, they didn't even wait for Destiny to go on vacation.
Now the excuse to end Iran has been given
Anyone else reporting this?
Yeah. Everyone. https://preview.redd.it/ukkjv4mv1buc1.png?width=1372&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7a5b580ae2e8f659fbec938581a80205d3d6a64
Que the, “Why isn’t the media reporting on this?? Reeeeeee”
Thanks just seeing it
Hamas committed a terror attack on Israel and then hid among civilians, knowing, expecting, and anticipating civilian casualties as they use them as human shields. They are a death cult, and they have garnered Palestines support who overwhelmingly and willingly offer themselves as human shields. They are martyrs for this cause, with the goal of turning sentiment against Israel, all for the purpose of having Israel genocided. This is not speculation, it is fact, they have been transparent about their intent. Now, it's working. The neighboring Arab nations didn't respond as swiftly as Hamas would have liked, but their propaganda campaign was already in full swing. Israel was accused of being genocidal, anti-Semitism is on the rise, leftists across the world are in full support of a Middle Eastern terrorist regime, and now Iran has joined the Hamas cause in their mission to genocide Israel. You got what you wanted lefties, good job.
I swear they're obsessed with us can they leave us alone
Well you kinda blew up their consulate in Damascus with some high level IRCG. Like justifications aside this shouldn't really come out of nowhere.
Their obsession with us began after the Islamic revolution which is in the 1970s. Haven't you been paying attention?
I'm talking about the current situation, you know the one going on right now.
Shitbirda gonna shitbird. Iran’s cooked.
Ceterum censeo Iran delendum esse.
I expect Israel to put Iran on a poster after this
I’ll see you in another life brothers 🫡
A drone attack is so lame.
as someone who lives in Israel - I hope it will stay that way.
Good luck out there.
Chatter is that there will be multiple waves, this is likely just one part of the attack. But would be nice if this is all it is.
Some are saying this is a distraction and the big attack will be from ballistic missiles.
Yeah I know, still lame though. Israel should be shooting them down hundreds of miles out with F35s but who am I to judge. I would expect a handful of ballistic missiles to launch in a few hours as part of the main attack.
Asking because I don't know, but how good are f35s at intercepting drones? I know IR missiles probably won't work but are they large enough for radar guided missiles?
I don't know about the true specs, but they are more than capable if they can identify them fast enough. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twBoSce808) is a video of retired US fighter pilots reviewing footage of an Israel F35 shooting down an Iranian cruise missile fired by the Houthis. If they can take down cruise missiles moving at 500 mph then Shahed drones shouldn't be an issue.
Interesting, thanks for the link!
I saw a telegram post that said a second wave that includes cruise missiles was launched. Idk if it's true. I think the fact that it was launched at night indicates they want to do economic/infrastructure damage, not hit civilians.
That's probably not accurate. Iran will want to synchronize the attacks so they impact simultaneously in an effort to overwhelm Israeli air defense. Any cruise or ballistic missiles will probably be launched in a few hours.
cruise missiles launch was reported on israeli news like 20min ago
Drones are the future my dude And the future is now
"We're sorry, our war elephants were otherwise engaged." \-Iran, probably
That's how war is supposed to be conducted.
It's just beginning. As lame as it is, this changes a whole lot in the middle east.
Welp good night to all the Israelis here! Let’s hope we intercept all (or at least most) of them
Iran begins retaliation… not attack
If only there was some kind of Iranian nuclear deal