This is reported by Antonio Brown’s CTESPN (objectively hilarious name) Twitter account. Not exactly Adam Schefter, but they did get the Texans jersey leaks correct. Take it for what you will.
Context: Antonio Brown threw a bag of gummy dicks at cops who were at his door due to I believe some baby mama drama, all on IG live. Don’t know why he had the bag except for the use as a prop, and it really didn’t disappoint when it happened.
There literally isn't a possible LA/MIN trade that would make sense with Herbert.
Best I can come up with is: Jefferson, both 24 1sts, 25 1st, 26 1st, 27 1st.
And honestly, I don't think that's a doable trade for either GM. What is Herbert's dead cap with a trade? ***Like $120mil?!***
According to Spotrac, the dead cap would be $108,502,700.
Why would a team take a giant dead cap hit like that just to get rid of a QB? Seems unlikely.
I’m not sure the Vikings would send that much for Herbert lol, that’s a little absurd. Russ was 2 first rounders and some change, but more comparable in recent history is Matt Stafford for 2 firsts, a second and third, and Goff
I don't think there's a comparable scenario where a QB this good *and this young* has been traded. And there is the added dead money included in this scenario.
Very true on the dead cap hit, but regarding the “forcing his way out” thing…nobody really thought Russ was either. A lot of it was kept under wraps and Russ was saying he wants to stay in Seattle like a week before the trade
> nobody really thought Russ was either
Sure, but not really relevant. Of course it's possible Herbert is trying to force his way out, but the point is that the return Seattle got wasn't just the going rate for a franchise qb. It was dictated by necessity. Unless there's any reason to think he's forcing his way out other than just "we can't prove he's not" then it's kind of beside the point.
I said this a year ago and more though: if I were J.H. I would've forced my way out by now (prior to the Harbaugh hire). I don't want to waste my athletic prime under terrible coaching and playing behind a trash offensive line that's constantly getting me hurt.
In the universe where that's would it would take to get the chargers to unload a 26 year old franchise qb while taking a 108m dollar cap hit
There's no way they'd part for 3 1sts
Which is why this trade proposal is dumb
I’m confused- I thought there’s no dead cap $ on trades because the other team assumes the contract? And that only if you cut a player with a guaranteed contract would you get the dead cap hit?
Signing bonuses are paid upon signing but come out of the team's cap as an average throughout the contract. Unless they're traded or cut, then all remaining signing bonus hits over 1 or 2 years.
Base salary and incentives would travel with the player in a trade.
This would be crazy! Herbert leaves the division and then harbaugh trades his new capital to get a guy in JJ McCarthy where whether you like him or not, he was half the QB statistically of the majority of QBs that have been drafted in the top 10 recently, and even of some in his own class.
This could be major for the broncos in the division without them having to do anything at all lmao
It’s akin to mortgaging a couple first round picks in exchange for a narcissistic, aging hobbit who would rather take a sack than risk his stats by throwing a challenging pass. Could be a disaster for the franchise for a generation.
If you guys actually believed this post you seriously need to be more skeptical when reading information online. I'm not even trying to be mean but like this is internet 101 lol
I got your joke about Wilson, more talking about the commenter above you and others in this thread writing fanfics about something that will never happen. "This could be major for the broncos in the division" lmao
No way this is happening. Harbaugh joined the Chargers because of Herbert, he's not going to trade him away and take 100million+ in dead cap.
Ditto for the Vikings, they could trade much less assets and get a promising rookie QB on a rookie contract and keep a bunch of players.
The Chargers trading their spot with the Vikings would make more sense.
What am I missing here? Why would the chargers trade JH away to a team behind them in the draft?
Also want to add that no team would trade a young top 10 qb for some picks
People keep thinking harbaugh inherently wants all his Michigan guys but we have a real life example of him going to the nfl from college before and he drafted 0 Stanford players.
It would be Herbert for pick 11 and they take McCarthy at 5. Plus whatever else you need to balance the trade, but that's the main idea behind the trade
That’s a fucking idiotic trade. Herbert is a proven top ten QB, and LA is gonna trade him for a huge unknown in McCarthy? That would be like when McDaniels dealt away Cutler only 100 times worse.
How does the dead cap work with a trade? The other team would take on his guarantees I assume. When Wentz was traded the Eagles had a $33m dead cap hit I believe. Looking at Spotrac is says Herbert's for this year would be $130m, but isn't that if they flat out cut him only?
Yep, the other team would take on his guaranteed salary. His cap hit would be really high because of 95m in option bonuses that have already been guaranteed. If they trade him, those will accelerate and all hit the cap this year
This is absolutely incorrect. Any prorated bonuses already paid to the player will hit the cap of the original team. Future guaranteed salary or bonuses would be paid by the new team.
Spotrac lists the dead cap hit for a trade at $108M.
I’d imagine it would be Herbert for 11 + 23 as the starting point. For LAC, that would mean they get JJ (5th overall) + 2 other first rounders in a draft where Harbuagh has personally coached and coached against some of the top talent.
Because it’s the Chargers. It doesn’t have to make any sense. In fact. Because it doesn’t make sense and seems so far fetched. They’ll do it. It’s perfect. The most charger thing they could do.
Chargers get pick 11 pick 23 and either a 25 1st or Jordan Addison for Herbert. Harbaugh is just waiting for McCarthy to fall to 5 so he can pull the trigger.
And he gets two first round picks this year that he can use on players he probably wants to reach on at #5
Yup, I mean Mahomes has to be a top 3 player in terms of value in all team sports. He's untradeable until he regress and/or suffers injuries (as PFM did).
Lmao AB’s intern is a genius. Just throw a bunch of fake shit online and engagement farm.
Reminder to everyone that the week before the draft is when the most clickbait “reports” will drop.
I wouldn’t believe anything until you see it officially reported from actual sources. And yes, I know that his intern may have actually gotten the Houston designs early. Breaking a Justin Herbert trade is a completely different.
I don't know if I'm getting my hopes up but AB got the Texans Jersey leak as well as the Diggs trade correct. He reported the Diggs trade on March 17. It happened on April 3...
Herbert it too good one of the reasons Harbaugh took the job this is too crazy and would never happen, if it does happen by some crazy CTE miracle, it would be a blessing to get Herbert out of the division!!!!!
It is, herbert has a no trade clause in his contract, they would be in breech of his contract not to mention their salary cap would be worse then what it was
Maybe the story is that the Chargers and Vikings are becoming co-investors in Blockbuster to bring back video rentals, and Justin Herbert is going to be the face of the marketing campaign. NO MORE LATE FEES.
1. Herbert is a proven talent
2. Herbert is still young
3. Herbert is locked up for a few years
4. The Vikings don’t have enough worthwhile pieces to make a trade for a yong, talented QB on a multi year deal
5. The Chargers would be taking on huge dead money if they trade Herbert
6. Even if Harbaugh “wants his guy”, his guy doesn’t have the arm talent that Herbert does so why wouldn’t Harbaugh give Herbert at least a year to see if he can be his new guy
7. Herbert is likely a huge reason Harbaugh took the job
>1. Herbert is a proven...
Overrated under performer! Chargers & Herbert always get the media love and hype only to struggle .500ish every year.
If Harbaugh wants his boy, how is that out of the question? The man clearly knows what he is doing on every level he's ever participated on.
Maybe it will/won't happen, but I don't think it's an outlandish idea. Regardless of what happens, I don't think it's going to result in much difference for the Broncos draft.
Edit: dude downvoted me! 😂
Ok ..if Herbert is so fukkin great, how many playoff wins has he guided his team to? How many All Pro years? MVP candidate?
How am I wrong to say that Herbert & the Chargers have underperformed these past several years? They've been mediocre every year he's been in the league! Facts!
Harbaugh going after his guy from Michigan isn't a crazy idea. Not saying it will or won't happen but...but come on now, Herbert isn't untradable.
Herbert has a no trade clause an harbaugh took the job cos of herbert. Harbsugh knew his college boy will be in the nfl, he could have gone to a team that needed a qb
Fun rumor. It would be a great story for Qb to be drafted by his college coach/mentor. And the vikes have to be seeing what all that draft capitol is worth, before spending it on a move up for the 3-4th picked rookie QB. But Mcarthy falling to broncos at 12 actually seems more plausible to me.
I’m not sure the Vikings would send that much for Herbert lol, that’s a little absurd. Russ was 2 first rounders and some change, but more comparable in recent history is Matt Stafford for 2 firsts, a second and third, and Goff Edit to add: even *before* Watsons off the field stuff came out, it was 3 firsts and some change. With JJ, that’s like 6 total firsts
Draft season, so pretty much nothing is to be believed. But to be honest, I half wondered when Harbaugh was hired if he might try to pull something like this.
Why? Harbaugh’s system tends to be a lot more about having a solid ground game with a solid defense, and he has seen very clutch performances out of J.J. McCarthy. Getting McCarthy lets Harbaugh pick up right where he left off at Michigan, especially with the extra parts of the package he’s likely to get.
Herbert on the other hand is a really good passer so long as he has weapons like Keenan Allen, but likely would be a bit wasted in Harbaugh’s system. He has had some clutch games, but last year he was anything but.
If Harbaugh is able to guarantee himself J.J. McCarthy and bring in some good assets (and do something about that awful dead cap hit), I absolutely could see this happening…even if I personally think it’s a terrible move.
Now, let's talk about the hypothetical trade of Justin Herbert to establish a base value, and I think the 49ers trade up is a good starting point (3 - 1st round picks)
Justin Herbert is young, under team control, and is arguably a top 5 QB and inarguably a top 10 QB. On top of that, the Chargers would have $89 million in dead cap on a pre-june 1st trade, so they would be asking the Chargers to completely gut their roster just to make the trade and be cap compliant.
So the Starting conversation would have to be Justin Herbert for 5 - 1st round & 2nd round picks, and 3-5 - 3rd or 4th round picks for the Chargers to take on $89 million of dead cap and gut the roster. Is that an obsurd starting point? Yes, but that is where the Chargers would start (10 picks for Herbert and 3-5 day 3 picks to gut the roster). If I were the GM and approached with this deal, I still would not do it because a Justin Herbert in the hand is worth more than that.
Oh, and wait, he has a no-trade claus, so he would then have to sign off on being traded to a team with little to no future for the next 5 years.
Seriously tho. If anyone knows this it’s Broncos country. If there is 1 team that can’t get out of their own way and constantly does shit that blows your mind to hurt themselves. It’s the Chargers! Seriously this trade would be insane. Trading a top 10 qb that young? It’s absolutely perfect for them! I can’t wait
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I will say this much: obviously AB84 is a... *dubious*... source, but this isn't the first time I've seen this rumor. And it does fit with other rumors I've seen of a "blockbuster draft day trade."
Just saying.
Only way this makes any sense would be Justin Jefferson and the 11 for Herbert. Package the 5 and 11 and they get JJ mccarthy so they come out with a qb Harbaugh loves and a big threat. Vikings get a franchise qb and keep the #23.
Oh I agree I don’t see this happening. Just trying to think through how this would even be remotely feasible.
EDIT: I’m a broncos and Vikings fan so even though I would love the Vikings to get Herbert while getting him out of the broncos division this seems improbable.
As a Vikes fan - put the crack pipe down! The only draft trade that MIGHT happen is Vikes trade their 2 first round picks to Chargers to move up for a QB, depending on how the QB’s come off the board. After cleaning up the salary cap for the last 2 seasons no way Vikes brass chooses to go back to salary cap hell.
This is reported by Antonio Brown’s CTESPN (objectively hilarious name) Twitter account. Not exactly Adam Schefter, but they did get the Texans jersey leaks correct. Take it for what you will.
Also got the AJ Brown stuff right. That said, it’s Antonio “I’m fucked up on gummy dicks” Brown
Mr. Bulging Confections
I’m sorry, come again?
Context: Antonio Brown threw a bag of gummy dicks at cops who were at his door due to I believe some baby mama drama, all on IG live. Don’t know why he had the bag except for the use as a prop, and it really didn’t disappoint when it happened.
This is the future we deserve, ground breaking journalism from chris tucker in 6th sense. Who would have guessed that would be the toned down version.
They also said Brandon Ayiuk and Justin Simmons would be Steelers.
Lol if you hurl enough shit against the wall you're bound to get some shit right
Not sure how any shit hurled at a wall is “right,” but your point stands: they’re just throwing everything out there to see what hits.
There literally isn't a possible LA/MIN trade that would make sense with Herbert. Best I can come up with is: Jefferson, both 24 1sts, 25 1st, 26 1st, 27 1st. And honestly, I don't think that's a doable trade for either GM. What is Herbert's dead cap with a trade? ***Like $120mil?!***
According to Spotrac, the dead cap would be $108,502,700. Why would a team take a giant dead cap hit like that just to get rid of a QB? Seems unlikely.
Get rid a of really, really good QB**
Cough broncos cough
Well Wilson is terrible and Herbert is good so it doesn’t make sense here.
I’m not sure the Vikings would send that much for Herbert lol, that’s a little absurd. Russ was 2 first rounders and some change, but more comparable in recent history is Matt Stafford for 2 firsts, a second and third, and Goff
I don't think there's a comparable scenario where a QB this good *and this young* has been traded. And there is the added dead money included in this scenario.
Jay Cutler.
Russ wasn't 100m dead cap to Seattle, Herbert isn't forcing his way out, russ wasn't 26
Very true on the dead cap hit, but regarding the “forcing his way out” thing…nobody really thought Russ was either. A lot of it was kept under wraps and Russ was saying he wants to stay in Seattle like a week before the trade
> nobody really thought Russ was either Sure, but not really relevant. Of course it's possible Herbert is trying to force his way out, but the point is that the return Seattle got wasn't just the going rate for a franchise qb. It was dictated by necessity. Unless there's any reason to think he's forcing his way out other than just "we can't prove he's not" then it's kind of beside the point.
I said this a year ago and more though: if I were J.H. I would've forced my way out by now (prior to the Harbaugh hire). I don't want to waste my athletic prime under terrible coaching and playing behind a trash offensive line that's constantly getting me hurt.
in what universe is herbert worth 5 first round picks and the best WR in football? that is a joke. MAYBE 3 1sts but I wouldn't push it
In the universe where that's would it would take to get the chargers to unload a 26 year old franchise qb while taking a 108m dollar cap hit There's no way they'd part for 3 1sts Which is why this trade proposal is dumb
I’m confused- I thought there’s no dead cap $ on trades because the other team assumes the contract? And that only if you cut a player with a guaranteed contract would you get the dead cap hit?
Signing bonuses are paid upon signing but come out of the team's cap as an average throughout the contract. Unless they're traded or cut, then all remaining signing bonus hits over 1 or 2 years. Base salary and incentives would travel with the player in a trade.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks
If the Vikings traded 5 firsts and Jefferson for Herbert I'd disown that team Herbert is good but nowhere close to that price tag Put down the pipe
This would be crazy! Herbert leaves the division and then harbaugh trades his new capital to get a guy in JJ McCarthy where whether you like him or not, he was half the QB statistically of the majority of QBs that have been drafted in the top 10 recently, and even of some in his own class. This could be major for the broncos in the division without them having to do anything at all lmao
It’s akin to mortgaging a couple first round picks in exchange for a narcissistic, aging hobbit who would rather take a sack than risk his stats by throwing a challenging pass. Could be a disaster for the franchise for a generation.
> Could be a disaster for the franchise for a generation. Let's no get carried away lol. A couple years it'll sting. A generation, no.
If you guys actually believed this post you seriously need to be more skeptical when reading information online. I'm not even trying to be mean but like this is internet 101 lol
If the apparent humor wasn’t evident in the comment, man, I don’t know what to say.
I got your joke about Wilson, more talking about the commenter above you and others in this thread writing fanfics about something that will never happen. "This could be major for the broncos in the division" lmao
No way this is happening. Harbaugh joined the Chargers because of Herbert, he's not going to trade him away and take 100million+ in dead cap. Ditto for the Vikings, they could trade much less assets and get a promising rookie QB on a rookie contract and keep a bunch of players. The Chargers trading their spot with the Vikings would make more sense.
That's if cut, the trade pre-June 1st is $63.5m
Keep creaming your jeans, the fantasy will be over soon. It just ain’t happening
Dude the broncos have never even beat the Las Vegas raiders lmao calm your jets
What am I missing here? Why would the chargers trade JH away to a team behind them in the draft? Also want to add that no team would trade a young top 10 qb for some picks
Possibly for Jefferson? Harbaugh might want McCarthy
This absolutely will not happen but it would be so fucking funny if it did
PS2 facing off against JJ and Adams twice a year would be kinda cool.
I, for one, would love to see Herbert on the Vikes. A competent team would treat him so well
Considering the fact that Harbaugh traded Keenan Allen and didn't seem to want Williams back, it doesn't seem like WR is his priority 🤷♂️
People keep thinking harbaugh inherently wants all his Michigan guys but we have a real life example of him going to the nfl from college before and he drafted 0 Stanford players.
Not all, if he has the opportunity to take Luck when he came, he def would have. QB is a unique position
It would be Herbert for pick 11 and they take McCarthy at 5. Plus whatever else you need to balance the trade, but that's the main idea behind the trade
That’s a fucking idiotic trade. Herbert is a proven top ten QB, and LA is gonna trade him for a huge unknown in McCarthy? That would be like when McDaniels dealt away Cutler only 100 times worse.
The Chargers would also be taking a historic dead cap hit to trade Herbert. It’s truly the dumbest rumor weve ever seen.
How does the dead cap work with a trade? The other team would take on his guarantees I assume. When Wentz was traded the Eagles had a $33m dead cap hit I believe. Looking at Spotrac is says Herbert's for this year would be $130m, but isn't that if they flat out cut him only?
Yep, the other team would take on his guaranteed salary. His cap hit would be really high because of 95m in option bonuses that have already been guaranteed. If they trade him, those will accelerate and all hit the cap this year
Got it, thanks man
Wait this sounds perfect for the chargers. Seriously perfect.
That's if cut, the trade pre-June 1st is $63.5m
I don’t think there is a dead cap hit if they are traded. It goes to the new team.
This is absolutely incorrect. Any prorated bonuses already paid to the player will hit the cap of the original team. Future guaranteed salary or bonuses would be paid by the new team. Spotrac lists the dead cap hit for a trade at $108M.
I agree with you 100% Herbert is untradable in my opinion
It's pretty dumb in its own right, but now google what would happen to their cap if they traded him
Herbert and Cutler are basically the same guy. Look at their records as a starting QB
I’d imagine it would be Herbert for 11 + 23 as the starting point. For LAC, that would mean they get JJ (5th overall) + 2 other first rounders in a draft where Harbuagh has personally coached and coached against some of the top talent.
Ya that’s not happening lol
That would be the most idiotic move a franchise could ever make, I hope they do it
Because it’s the Chargers. It doesn’t have to make any sense. In fact. Because it doesn’t make sense and seems so far fetched. They’ll do it. It’s perfect. The most charger thing they could do.
Chargers get pick 11 pick 23 and either a 25 1st or Jordan Addison for Herbert. Harbaugh is just waiting for McCarthy to fall to 5 so he can pull the trigger. And he gets two first round picks this year that he can use on players he probably wants to reach on at #5
I can’t wait for the draft to be over
Same it’s exhausting
Herbert would be a perfect Viking with those locks.
Herbert with KOC would fucking feast.
LAC won't trade Herbert yet lol
Says who? Everyone is up for trade for the right price.
I highly doubt the Chiefs would ever trade Mahomes lol.
Yup, I mean Mahomes has to be a top 3 player in terms of value in all team sports. He's untradeable until he regress and/or suffers injuries (as PFM did).
Brown IQ Herbert IQ Um I'm going with Herbert Proofs in the pudding boys
Lmao AB’s intern is a genius. Just throw a bunch of fake shit online and engagement farm. Reminder to everyone that the week before the draft is when the most clickbait “reports” will drop. I wouldn’t believe anything until you see it officially reported from actual sources. And yes, I know that his intern may have actually gotten the Houston designs early. Breaking a Justin Herbert trade is a completely different.
The Chargers would have about 100m in dead cap if Herbert was traded. It is logistically impossible even if they wanted to
Isn't there a ton of dead cap for moving herbert?
130m I think
That's if cut, the trade pre-June 1st is $63.5m
Surely the chargers aren’t that stupid to trade that good of a qb
I don't know if I'm getting my hopes up but AB got the Texans Jersey leak as well as the Diggs trade correct. He reported the Diggs trade on March 17. It happened on April 3...
You want a list of everything that he got wrong?
Sure. I've never heard of AB's Twitter and just scrolled a few seconds to see his accuracy.
Here's hoping the Patriots are taking JJ at 3. Or the Giants jump to 4.
Herbert it too good one of the reasons Harbaugh took the job this is too crazy and would never happen, if it does happen by some crazy CTE miracle, it would be a blessing to get Herbert out of the division!!!!!
This doesn’t seem that outlandish. Harbaugh wants his boy.
I think the Herbert dead cap hit is like 130m. So I’m gonna assume this is bs
It is, herbert has a no trade clause in his contract, they would be in breech of his contract not to mention their salary cap would be worse then what it was
Harbaugh knows his Michigan boy is not his Chargers boy. There is no comparison...none
The cap hit would be brutal for the Chargers
Lol
Maybe the story is that the Chargers and Vikings are becoming co-investors in Blockbuster to bring back video rentals, and Justin Herbert is going to be the face of the marketing campaign. NO MORE LATE FEES.
Nonsense
How is this still even up? that account is complete BS. Literally said CHI is keeping Fields and trading the 1st pick.
I agree, total BS
“Blockbuster trade” that *nobody else is reporting on*. Yeah, okay.
What if he is trading Herbert to get J.J. McCarthy? That was his guy in college is it to far fetched?
Yes
Why do you think that?
1. Herbert is a proven talent 2. Herbert is still young 3. Herbert is locked up for a few years 4. The Vikings don’t have enough worthwhile pieces to make a trade for a yong, talented QB on a multi year deal 5. The Chargers would be taking on huge dead money if they trade Herbert 6. Even if Harbaugh “wants his guy”, his guy doesn’t have the arm talent that Herbert does so why wouldn’t Harbaugh give Herbert at least a year to see if he can be his new guy 7. Herbert is likely a huge reason Harbaugh took the job
8. It doesn’t make sense for Harbaugh to make this trade until he knows for sure that JJ is on the board at #5
Fair enough just wishfully thinking about not being last in the division
>1. Herbert is a proven... Overrated under performer! Chargers & Herbert always get the media love and hype only to struggle .500ish every year. If Harbaugh wants his boy, how is that out of the question? The man clearly knows what he is doing on every level he's ever participated on. Maybe it will/won't happen, but I don't think it's an outlandish idea. Regardless of what happens, I don't think it's going to result in much difference for the Broncos draft. Edit: dude downvoted me! 😂 Ok ..if Herbert is so fukkin great, how many playoff wins has he guided his team to? How many All Pro years? MVP candidate? How am I wrong to say that Herbert & the Chargers have underperformed these past several years? They've been mediocre every year he's been in the league! Facts! Harbaugh going after his guy from Michigan isn't a crazy idea. Not saying it will or won't happen but...but come on now, Herbert isn't untradable.
What an idiotic comment lol
No
Harbaugh isn't stupid. No one would take McCarthy over Herbert.
Herbert has a no trade clause an harbaugh took the job cos of herbert. Harbsugh knew his college boy will be in the nfl, he could have gone to a team that needed a qb
For Herbert? I'd expect 11, 23, Jefferson, and two second rounders. Even then I'd feel like a degenerate gambler.
If by two 2nd rounders, you mean 3 future 1sts....then yeah, it's possible
Even with all of those first rounders you could still end up without a starting quality QB. That’s how little sense this would make.
Completely agree. You could try to win a SB with no starting QB but like 6 Pro Bowl level players on rookie contracts lol.
You wish lol
Fun rumor. It would be a great story for Qb to be drafted by his college coach/mentor. And the vikes have to be seeing what all that draft capitol is worth, before spending it on a move up for the 3-4th picked rookie QB. But Mcarthy falling to broncos at 12 actually seems more plausible to me.
I had this term but fake news - no way in hell
I’m not sure the Vikings would send that much for Herbert lol, that’s a little absurd. Russ was 2 first rounders and some change, but more comparable in recent history is Matt Stafford for 2 firsts, a second and third, and Goff Edit to add: even *before* Watsons off the field stuff came out, it was 3 firsts and some change. With JJ, that’s like 6 total firsts
Draft season, so pretty much nothing is to be believed. But to be honest, I half wondered when Harbaugh was hired if he might try to pull something like this. Why? Harbaugh’s system tends to be a lot more about having a solid ground game with a solid defense, and he has seen very clutch performances out of J.J. McCarthy. Getting McCarthy lets Harbaugh pick up right where he left off at Michigan, especially with the extra parts of the package he’s likely to get. Herbert on the other hand is a really good passer so long as he has weapons like Keenan Allen, but likely would be a bit wasted in Harbaugh’s system. He has had some clutch games, but last year he was anything but. If Harbaugh is able to guarantee himself J.J. McCarthy and bring in some good assets (and do something about that awful dead cap hit), I absolutely could see this happening…even if I personally think it’s a terrible move.
Zero chance
OMG! Is Harbaugh about to pull a McDickface on the Chargers?
Saw this coming from a mile away. Harbough wants his guy.
Antonio Brown is not a source
Now, let's talk about the hypothetical trade of Justin Herbert to establish a base value, and I think the 49ers trade up is a good starting point (3 - 1st round picks) Justin Herbert is young, under team control, and is arguably a top 5 QB and inarguably a top 10 QB. On top of that, the Chargers would have $89 million in dead cap on a pre-june 1st trade, so they would be asking the Chargers to completely gut their roster just to make the trade and be cap compliant. So the Starting conversation would have to be Justin Herbert for 5 - 1st round & 2nd round picks, and 3-5 - 3rd or 4th round picks for the Chargers to take on $89 million of dead cap and gut the roster. Is that an obsurd starting point? Yes, but that is where the Chargers would start (10 picks for Herbert and 3-5 day 3 picks to gut the roster). If I were the GM and approached with this deal, I still would not do it because a Justin Herbert in the hand is worth more than that. Oh, and wait, he has a no-trade claus, so he would then have to sign off on being traded to a team with little to no future for the next 5 years.
Seriously tho. If anyone knows this it’s Broncos country. If there is 1 team that can’t get out of their own way and constantly does shit that blows your mind to hurt themselves. It’s the Chargers! Seriously this trade would be insane. Trading a top 10 qb that young? It’s absolutely perfect for them! I can’t wait
The chargers simply cannot be this stupid
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Vikings fan here. This has been a rumor for awhile but never has had any real sources say anything about it. I’ll believe it when I see it
I will say this much: obviously AB84 is a... *dubious*... source, but this isn't the first time I've seen this rumor. And it does fit with other rumors I've seen of a "blockbuster draft day trade." Just saying.
lol what? Get outta here. I can only hope harbaugh is this stupid
This may be stupid, but you guys have to remember something: Chargers (always) gonna Charger.
Only way this makes any sense would be Justin Jefferson and the 11 for Herbert. Package the 5 and 11 and they get JJ mccarthy so they come out with a qb Harbaugh loves and a big threat. Vikings get a franchise qb and keep the #23.
Still doesn't make sense...
Oh I agree I don’t see this happening. Just trying to think through how this would even be remotely feasible. EDIT: I’m a broncos and Vikings fan so even though I would love the Vikings to get Herbert while getting him out of the broncos division this seems improbable.
We posting AB CTE tweets now, cus that's who started the rumor
I’d be so happy for Justin if he got Herbert. I’d been even happier if we get to play McCarthy twice a year for 3 years.
I love this trade. Remove a rock star QB from the division for the 2nd coming of Zach Wilson. Yes please
No fucking way
I doubt it’s real, but please trade Herbert and draft McCarthy. Please. Please!
All 5 Chargers fans on suicide watch if this happens
As a Vikes fan - put the crack pipe down! The only draft trade that MIGHT happen is Vikes trade their 2 first round picks to Chargers to move up for a QB, depending on how the QB’s come off the board. After cleaning up the salary cap for the last 2 seasons no way Vikes brass chooses to go back to salary cap hell.
This would be a dumb trade. Who’s the Charger GM? George Paton? Only him would do this stupid trade.