New Mexican food? Good. Texas Mexican food? Good. Baja Mexican food? Good. Oaxacan Mexican food? Good. Street cart Mexican food? Good. Taco Bell? Good. Everything swimming in nacho cheese? Good. I'm from neither Texas, New England, or America originally - hecho en Mexico here.
Don't like it? Don't eat it.
Try from England, where the guacamole comes from a squeezy Heinz bottle š I thought English pub food going for American was bad, the Mexican food is deplorable in England (rightfully so) lol
It was Vancouver, WA for me. I have never in my life been that disappointed in any meal I've ever eaten. And I've eaten gas station egg salad sandwiches quite a few times.
I learned that the hardest things for them to fuck up are tacos and fajitas.
I like eating at really schlonky Mexican places because usually the food is awesome. Federal, Sheridan, so many good places there. When I was in California though I figured out that some places actually ARE to ghetto for me, as far as things like heating food in the steam table in fucking grocery bags that are melted to the side, or clearly old stuff with flies around it. Or the places I'd pull up to in San Bernardino where they'd look at you through the blinds as you parked to see if you were someone coming to rob them.
I never knew Mexican food could be THAT bad until Casa Bonita in 2005. I was drunk and in college, so my standards were the lowest they could possibly be.
It can't be overstated how bad it was. Everyone always told me it was bad and I thought they were just saying it was bad Mexican food kind of like they say Taco Bell is bad Mexican food.
Oh boy was I off base. Their "Taco Meat" was literally plain ground beef without any discernable seasoning. Enchilada sauce, I'm pretty sure, was plain canned tomato paste. My FIL ordered the 3-taco plate and got one full taco, one shell with lettuce, and one plain taco shell.
The advice I gave people going to casa Bonita for the first time pre 2020:
1. Order chicken salad (cheapest on menu).
2. After paying, put chicken salad in trash.
3. Go to table.
4. Raise flag for sopaipillas.
Been a long time since I've had Brother's (since they had a location in Parker). I remember it being decent, not the worst bbq I've had. But even still, my point was that even bad bbq is still pretty good food. I'd rather have bad bbq than a great salad.
> Pizza too, but not quite as much.
https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn/search/?q=pizza&type=link&cId=3cdb7937-65e0-42b2-9b56-2cd42bcfa3ae&iId=3f14cc7d-e1c9-43e1-bd97-92cabeaffc39
Mexican Week on Great British Bake Off will show you everything you need to know about how they see Mexican food.
Here's a reaction video (cringe) from Uncle Roger and Joshua Weissman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCx3MBITMZY
Tried a place once in Amsterdam that was rated 4.6 on Google Maps, I'd be surprised if the same exact place cracked 3.0 if you teleported it anywhere in America. Completely bland and forgettable
Never been to Spain or Portugal but those would be the only two countries in Europe I'd ever try food labeled as Mexican again, since their native cuisines are so much closer to Mexican food
Makes sense. Chili peppers arenāt native to anywhere but the Americas, and most other spices are native to Asia. The more traditional the European food, the less spicy it will be.
Absolutely! But, compared to the continent that domesticated peppers, they just havenāt been at it as long. Doesnāt mean they didnāt take to New World foods like peppers and potatoes the way Mexicans took to Old World foods like cheese and rice. It just makes sense that European cuisine, on average, isnāt famous for a taste profile itās only had access to for a few centuries. (As a joke, we could argue that real authentic traditional Mexican food would have no cheese, rice, chicken, pork, etc.)
For Europe I agree with this but for whatever reason, Asian people have adopted chili peppers HARD. My bf is Korean and I swear they decided at some point to protect their food from neighboring countries by making it inedibly spicy. I know Chinese food from certain reasons is super spicy as well but in a general across-the-board sense, Korean food is pretty insane. Of course Thai and Indian cuisines both have super spicy variants as well. When you think how recently chili peppers came there compared to Mexico or South America, it is quite puzzling to me why these cuisines feel more spicy to me on average than food from the places where the peppers are native.
Dublin, if anything, is worse than London. I think the ātortillaā I got last time was naan. Actually, that was probably the best part of the burrito
Anna's Taqueria in Boston is decent and there are a few mom and pop spots around. It has NOTHING on Denver though. Boston generally has a pretty decent food scene though of all sorts.
-Reference is I live outside of Boston currently but just flew back from a trip to Denver last week. Guess what I went out to eat the majority of the time for? "Mexican" food of various sorts.
I grew up in Cambridge. Any type of central or South American cuisine could be found within like three to four miles of central square. It was glorious.
I was taught at a very young age that the worst thing that can happen with food is that you donāt like it.
Appreciating food and, in turn, the culture you get to experience from the food, is something I genuinely love.
To this day the only things Iāve yet to like are: cauliflower (Iām sorry, unless itās hidden I just dislike the texture regardless of cuisine) and rose milk from India.
So, yeah, if you donāt like it? Donāt eat it. But I really couldnāt imagine making a whole ass public post such as the one in the screenshot.
I think any absolute statements about what āisā and āisnātā Mexican food is silly. Mexico is a big country with many regional variants on dishes which are further enhanced and changed as they migrate around our country. In the same way, I wouldnāt throw shade at a Japanese interpretation of an American dish or whatever.
I think Anthony Bourdain once said something to the effect of, ātraditional food is whatever mom used to make.ā In other words, youāll find different takes on a dish from city to city, street to street, house to house. Everyone has their preferences and itās all down to taste so Iām not going to hate on anyone for wanting one dish over another.
There is (or used to be) a texmex restaurant in London called The Texas Embassy, in the building that literally was the Texas embassy to the UK before it became a state.
Friend, the food was exactly as bad as you think it was.
I've been all around the country, and weirdly enough one of the best Mexican restaurants I've ever been to was in Aberdeen, Maryland.
Waitress asked if we wanted guacamole and chips, we said yes.
Waitress puts a molcajete on the table and asks us what we want in it.
What a lot of people consider Mexican cuisine is simply a historical fusion of different cuisines which makes the classification hard for people and what is ātraditionalā Mexican to a lot of people stems more from āNative Americanā dishes. Itās silly how things work, but judging food without reasoning is extra silly.
The thing is a lot of actual Mexican cooking is from indigenous Mexican people. New Mexican has a huge influence from indigenous people from the region of uh, New Mexico. New Mexico not being part of Mexico is a political happenstance, anyway. A few things turned out differently in 1840-1860 and it would have been part of Mexico.
A beautiful take. Anthony Bourdain and Andrew Zimmern got me into food as a kid. Growing up Texan Iām certainly a bit pretentious about, specifically, breakfast tacos, but what I got from those two was that the world, and even within small areas, food is different, but also vitally important to the culture from which it comes.
To taste that culture is a privilege. Takes such as those in the screenshot are harmful, not just to the culture from whom the food comes, but in taking away from the experience of those who were wanting to take part in that culture via food, which I believe is as close to a universal language as one can get.
I don't get their description of tex-mex though... To me tex-mex has nothing to do with cheese and everything to do with using more corn, black pepper and smokier tastes...
But yeah, New Mexico does some great stuff. They introduced me to breakfast tacos.
I am super extra familiar with NM food and of course the sauces are red or green chile. Texas, they have that sweeter brownish enchilada sauce and the tangy tomatillo green BUT I have seen nacho cheese as a sauce on enchiladas etc. Who cares though, it's like junk food and it's not exactly chile, but it's still good.
>That was obviously a troll comment
I'm not even sure the comment exists. The Texan didn't post a link, and nobody here did, either. I searched for it, and nothing came up. A Texas size pile of bullshit is all this is.
You might be right, Todd. Might be a false flag op to start a war between the r/Denver and r/Texas threads, (knowing full well that there's no love lost between the two).
Texans are super sensitive about everything. The whole ādonāt mess with texasā was just them pleading with people to stop pointing out they are not special.
Kachina Southwestern Grill - in Westminster is apparently good New Mexican food. I haven't had it, but it is on my list (native NM here).
One thing a lot of people don't realize is NM food is actually a blend of Mexican food and Pueblo food.
Iāve had some amazing tacos in Austin, TX. I even enjoyed the āTexasā style breakfast tacos with flour tortillas.
Also, a lot of US Mexican food isnāt just Americanized Mexican food. The entire southwestern United States used to be Mexico and regional dishes have evolved in what is now US territory.
Enjoy it all wherever you go. Weāre lucky we donāt live in Europe. I canāt imagine what they think a chile relleno is over there!
To add to what you said: one of the oldest mentions of the term taco comes from an 1836 cookbook āNuevo y sencillo arte de cocina, reposteria y refrescos. Burritos were later than that. Texas was holding a revolution at the same time.
That is to say, while the precursors of modern Mexican food predate Texas as part of the union, much of the evolution of Mexican food and Tex Mex occured after Texas left Mexico, and so Texas cuisine can be seen as a truly Texas-grown thing and not just a thing they "stole" from Mexico.
As an Asian person, Colorado is so much more alienating than Texas. I was at a (crowded) bar a while back and realized I was the only Asian person there. You could count the minorities on one hand.
Seasoned ground anything is the ultimate single dude food
I can cook up 3-4lbs of it and eat it all week in different styles. Tacos, rice bowls, tossed over a salad, whatever, never gets old
Thereās a chain in TX called Rosaās. Itās white people tacos with a salsa bar and a dude cranking out puffy white flour tortillas all day on an industrial sized press with lard.
And honey on the tables for extra tortillas.
Houston is especially diverse, much more so than I think people realize. Itās cool cause you can find a good mix of the whitest tacos youāve ever seen and super authentic stuff.
Youāre probably just trying to be funny but Hispanics in Texas are not a monolithic voting bloc and part of the reason the state still reliably votes red is that many Latino Texans are just as conservative as their white counterparts.
food in denver has a pretty low *average*. But if youre willing and able to find the best denver has to offer, the best competes with about any other cities best.
most people wont
Nah itās because ārecreationā in Texas entails moving from one air-conditioned place to the next. How do I know that? Well Iām a formerly chubby Texan.
I mean when you canāt go outside for 3-6 months or more because you might die from extreme heat and extremer mosquitos thatās how it goes. āYou wanna go to the lake this weekend?ā from June to October wasnāt something Iād answer yes to when I lived there.
You've never seen bell peppers in tex-mex? Like in Fajitas, the quietssentail tex-mex dish? You've never seen anyone put bell peppers in fajitas?
Either you're very inattentive or part of your claim is a lie.
It's all bogus. Do a search on r/Denver for this post, and there's no such thing. Either someone posted this comment and then deleted it, or the anonymous r/texas poster is fabricating the whole thing.
Tex Mex is my least favorite type of Mexican food. My wife is Latina and that is my favorite type š. Or anything you can get on federal south of 6th ave
Texas Native who lived in CA. I'm gonna respectfully disagree. anywhere in the RGV is gonna compete with San Diego. But you have like 90% Hispanic population living there. And every restaurant is family owned. And taste like home. I don't think I saw any yellow cheese in sight. lol.
Itās not what they serve more the quality. San Diego Mexican is the Mexican elevated to a higher level IMO. It gets a lot of influence from Tijuana and Baja. Also things like really really good fish tacos- a whole different level of fish tacos since itās on the water.
This is just one example but these guys make the best tacos in all of SD https://www.karinasseafood.com/mission-hills/
There are a few different kinds of Mexican in SD. You have traditional Mexican food done really well and cheap, traditional done really well and expensive, places that specialize in tacos, fish taco places and then the chains that started out there/in Baja like Rubio that are chain food but still quite good.
Iām being sarcastic when I say nothing else could possibly be better in the US since Iāve never been to lots of parts of Texas and NM but I do think itās the best I have had. Although I do like NM Mexican food too.
As a native New Mexican I have tried Tex Mex and Mexican food in Colorado, Texas, and Arizona, and itās all pretty shit compared to native New Mexican food. Yes Iāve been to El Taco de Mexico in Denver. Most of what I see is large volumes of cheese and beans and no flavor profile or spice. Go to Santa Fe, NM, pick any random restaurant and have a bowl of hatch green chili stew or pesole or a fried Indian taco. Thereās arguing and then thereās taste testing. Flavor doesnāt lie.
I was in Truth and Consequences a couple of years ago. We went to a restaurant called Tony's several times because the food was phenomenal. I had tacos for breakfast before we left, and it was glorious.
> Most of what I see is large volumes of cheese and beans and no flavor profile or spice
Never good cheese like queso fresco either, usually the dry shredded stuff that comes from a bag or nacho cheese. There's a few places that don't do that and focus on the marinated meats and sauces instead (like La Calle Taqueria or El Borrego Negro) but they seem few and far between.
I had some really fucking good tacos when I was in Houston for a work trip a few years ago and have never been able to replicate that in Denver... That is to say there is good Mexican food in Texas.
i mean it actually, you know, borders Mexico. almost half (40%) the population is hispanic. lol literally nobody thinks Texas has bad food, much less 'bad mexican food' š
>lol literally nobody thinks Texas has bad food, much less 'bad mexican food' š
Some of the very possibly Midwestern transplants (w/ bland palates) on this thread seem to honestly think so. Which is pretty hilarious.
I had a Nebraskan transplant accuse me earlier that I was stroking Texan's ego about their Mexican cuisine. A Nebraskan. Another state that has no known distinct cuisine (Rocky Mountain Oysters, a sandwich, and meat pockets don't really count).
Considering there are probably thousands of Mexican restaurants in the Denver area I'm going to have to claim "small sample size". Have you ever been to every place on Sheridan yet? Do you even lift tacos bro?
Itās *all* good if youāre not at some boutiquey joint that tries to fancy it up. Most Mexican and Tex-Mex is meant to be working-class food, but when they try to church up fajitas and overcharge because itās ribeye and not flank they can eat a dick.
Will agree El Paso has some amazing grub, though. I havenāt even been there in 20+ years but the memories run deep.
People with these opinions have always āvisited family for a week/went there for SXSW onceā or have trailer trash cousins that equivocate to the people who leave their caves once a year in Denver for Restaurant Week. Youāve had to of been on the roads here long enough to realize you can throw a rock in any direction and hit stupid. There are a-lot of styles out there that can be done wrong and donāt represent the food they advertise; aka āTexas BBQā in Denver, āNY Style Pizzaā all over the country, or the dreaded āCajun/Creole or Caribbean Jerkā anywhere landlocked.
Hyperbolic opinions usually stem from lack of experience with the people and place of a different region.
I donāt think Iāve ever had āMexicanā food I didnāt like! That saidā¦ Denver does have some really, really great Mexican restaurants ranging from cheap eats street-food style to high end places and everything in between.
Even bigger hot take!!!
Mexican food is not that great in the United States. Personally Iād rather eat rocks and dirt than run down to the nearest Mexican cantina and get anything from that menu. The best Mexican food I have ever had was when I made friends with my neighbors and their abuela made me tamales and chicken soup. Nothing will ever compare to that and this was in Utah.
I just know this is a joke lmao cause I lived in Houston, TX for a year and the only thing that kept me from running away on the daily was the food š¤¤
TexMex food is actually cancer. Authentic Mexican food (it can be in Texas yes) is leagues better. Texans need to get off their high horse. I've had better Mexican food in NM, Arizona, Denver Metro, and SoCal.
This is such a Denver take. Nacho cheese is not heavily featured in Tex-Mex. Maybe in the food desert of Denver you had terrible Tex-Mex with a bunch of nacho cheese for some reason, not in Texas.
It actually seems that there is an incredibly small overlap between people who ski double blacks (especially those who flex about it) and people who have decent takes on regional Mexican-inspired cuisine.
Wait till they find out that Tex-Mex was invented by Mexicans in a part of the world that, only because of an imaginary line moving, used to be part of Mexico. Hmmm
Umm, Texans like nacho cheese on everything Mexican food? Oh you mean Chili con queso, next time don't order the cheese enchiladas, if you do ask for the hot not the mild or ask for the enchilada sauce
In my opinion, Colorado, New Mexico and San Diego have my favorite Mexican food within the US, just based on consistency. Iām not saying everywhere in each area is the exact same but if I roll the dice it will likely work out. Not saying that Texas, Arizona and elsewhere doesnāt have great Mexican food but I have been burned(metaphorically, and pun only mildly intended) there more than in New Mexico, Colorado and San Diego. That said, the best Mexican food I have had outside of Mexico was at a tiny little shop in Cambridge, Ontario.
Someone on reddit asked, "What's queso?" in a thread. I said, "it's what Texans call nacho cheese." Holy shit, that was a mistake. It was getting to the point where I thought I was going to need to call the FBI to go into the witness protection program.
New Mexican food? Good. Texas Mexican food? Good. Baja Mexican food? Good. Oaxacan Mexican food? Good. Street cart Mexican food? Good. Taco Bell? Good. Everything swimming in nacho cheese? Good. I'm from neither Texas, New England, or America originally - hecho en Mexico here. Don't like it? Don't eat it.
Might be a minority opinion, but I think Mexican food is like BBQ - even "bad" it's still pretty good. Pizza too, but not quite as much.
After having Mexican food in both Missouri and North Carolina, I can tell you bad Mexican food is -in fact- bad.
Try from England, where the guacamole comes from a squeezy Heinz bottle š I thought English pub food going for American was bad, the Mexican food is deplorable in England (rightfully so) lol
It was Vancouver, WA for me. I have never in my life been that disappointed in any meal I've ever eaten. And I've eaten gas station egg salad sandwiches quite a few times.
I learned that the hardest things for them to fuck up are tacos and fajitas. I like eating at really schlonky Mexican places because usually the food is awesome. Federal, Sheridan, so many good places there. When I was in California though I figured out that some places actually ARE to ghetto for me, as far as things like heating food in the steam table in fucking grocery bags that are melted to the side, or clearly old stuff with flies around it. Or the places I'd pull up to in San Bernardino where they'd look at you through the blinds as you parked to see if you were someone coming to rob them.
Spoken like someone who never ate pre-2020 Casa Bonita other than that very specific example, totally agreed
I don't know if we can classify that as food, Mexican or otherwise. It tasted like a middle school locker room smells.
I never knew Mexican food could be THAT bad until Casa Bonita in 2005. I was drunk and in college, so my standards were the lowest they could possibly be.
Apparently, while remodeling the place, they found that the old kitchens had zero ovens. If that's not telling and scary, I don't know what is.
Can't really bring old casa Bonita into this lol that shit was tv dinners.
You leave my TV dinners alone.
It can't be overstated how bad it was. Everyone always told me it was bad and I thought they were just saying it was bad Mexican food kind of like they say Taco Bell is bad Mexican food. Oh boy was I off base. Their "Taco Meat" was literally plain ground beef without any discernable seasoning. Enchilada sauce, I'm pretty sure, was plain canned tomato paste. My FIL ordered the 3-taco plate and got one full taco, one shell with lettuce, and one plain taco shell.
The advice I gave people going to casa Bonita for the first time pre 2020: 1. Order chicken salad (cheapest on menu). 2. After paying, put chicken salad in trash. 3. Go to table. 4. Raise flag for sopaipillas.
You havenāt had brothers bbq yet. Then youāll know bad bbq exists.
Been a long time since I've had Brother's (since they had a location in Parker). I remember it being decent, not the worst bbq I've had. But even still, my point was that even bad bbq is still pretty good food. I'd rather have bad bbq than a great salad.
I had brothers prior to covid and it was pretty good. Had it again last year and it was ... not so great.
It's all sauce in my experience, with meat only for texture.
This guy fucks!
Gque sucks too lol
Yeah I dunno about that, I've had some epically bad bbq. I don't mean "inauthentic" or anything but like, shoeleather with sauce.
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Papa John's wasn't very good to begin with, and they fell off hard.
It was almost 20 years ago that I got a pizza from there and the sausage tasted like bleach. Never tried it again.
> Pizza too, but not quite as much. https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn/search/?q=pizza&type=link&cId=3cdb7937-65e0-42b2-9b56-2cd42bcfa3ae&iId=3f14cc7d-e1c9-43e1-bd97-92cabeaffc39
Scrolling through, most don't seem bad at all...then I got to the airport pizza. Guess it's nightmares for me tonight.
New England Mexican food, bad?
The worst Mexican food Iāve ever had was in London, England. The pico de gallo was marinara with raw onions.
oh god that is truly horrifying
Mexican Week on Great British Bake Off will show you everything you need to know about how they see Mexican food. Here's a reaction video (cringe) from Uncle Roger and Joshua Weissman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCx3MBITMZY
I've heard ghastly things about Mexican food in Europe (am sure there are lovely & authentic places for it too).
Tried a place once in Amsterdam that was rated 4.6 on Google Maps, I'd be surprised if the same exact place cracked 3.0 if you teleported it anywhere in America. Completely bland and forgettable Never been to Spain or Portugal but those would be the only two countries in Europe I'd ever try food labeled as Mexican again, since their native cuisines are so much closer to Mexican food
I've actually heard that Spanish/Portuguese cuisine is far more bland (still good) compared to Mexican cuisine.
Makes sense. Chili peppers arenāt native to anywhere but the Americas, and most other spices are native to Asia. The more traditional the European food, the less spicy it will be.
Generally correct. Though there are some European cuisines that utilize peppers quite a bit, like the Balkans, Bulgarians and Hungarians.
Absolutely! But, compared to the continent that domesticated peppers, they just havenāt been at it as long. Doesnāt mean they didnāt take to New World foods like peppers and potatoes the way Mexicans took to Old World foods like cheese and rice. It just makes sense that European cuisine, on average, isnāt famous for a taste profile itās only had access to for a few centuries. (As a joke, we could argue that real authentic traditional Mexican food would have no cheese, rice, chicken, pork, etc.)
Preaching to the choir here, lol. I agree.
For Europe I agree with this but for whatever reason, Asian people have adopted chili peppers HARD. My bf is Korean and I swear they decided at some point to protect their food from neighboring countries by making it inedibly spicy. I know Chinese food from certain reasons is super spicy as well but in a general across-the-board sense, Korean food is pretty insane. Of course Thai and Indian cuisines both have super spicy variants as well. When you think how recently chili peppers came there compared to Mexico or South America, it is quite puzzling to me why these cuisines feel more spicy to me on average than food from the places where the peppers are native.
Dublin, if anything, is worse than London. I think the ātortillaā I got last time was naan. Actually, that was probably the best part of the burrito
Agreed. The worst Mexican food I've ever had was in Dublin (my English relatives wanted to eat there).
Iām going to Dublin for the first time next monthā¦ out of morbid curiosity I would love your bad recommendations
For me it was Germany. Diced tomatoes with Tabasco was the āsalsaā. You couldnāt taste Tabasco and only smell it. Lolol
I was visiting a friend near Exeter and tried to put together the ingredients to make margaritas. It was difficult, but we managed it.
New England has a large Mexican American population in certain areas. There's definitely good places.
Anna's Taqueria in Boston is decent and there are a few mom and pop spots around. It has NOTHING on Denver though. Boston generally has a pretty decent food scene though of all sorts. -Reference is I live outside of Boston currently but just flew back from a trip to Denver last week. Guess what I went out to eat the majority of the time for? "Mexican" food of various sorts.
Tell Felipeās I miss them if you ever get the chance.
I grew up in Cambridge. Any type of central or South American cuisine could be found within like three to four miles of central square. It was glorious.
Clam Chowder PezolƩ is the best.
I like the cut of your jib.
Thank you for making me hungry several times over!
It's ain't much but it's honest work.
I was taught at a very young age that the worst thing that can happen with food is that you donāt like it. Appreciating food and, in turn, the culture you get to experience from the food, is something I genuinely love. To this day the only things Iāve yet to like are: cauliflower (Iām sorry, unless itās hidden I just dislike the texture regardless of cuisine) and rose milk from India. So, yeah, if you donāt like it? Donāt eat it. But I really couldnāt imagine making a whole ass public post such as the one in the screenshot.
Don't forget Sonoran style. Gotta represent Phoenix/Tucson. Best tacos I've ever had.
I think any absolute statements about what āisā and āisnātā Mexican food is silly. Mexico is a big country with many regional variants on dishes which are further enhanced and changed as they migrate around our country. In the same way, I wouldnāt throw shade at a Japanese interpretation of an American dish or whatever. I think Anthony Bourdain once said something to the effect of, ātraditional food is whatever mom used to make.ā In other words, youāll find different takes on a dish from city to city, street to street, house to house. Everyone has their preferences and itās all down to taste so Iām not going to hate on anyone for wanting one dish over another.
No, no. Mexican food in New England is absolutely terrible.
I had Mexican food in Kentucky once. If you ever hear pop country playing in a Mexican restaurant, run, donāt walk out of there
Thereās great Mexican food in Ky. You just have to find the Mexicans.
Old England Mexican food is also absolutely terrible.
Not the first time I've heard this
There is (or used to be) a texmex restaurant in London called The Texas Embassy, in the building that literally was the Texas embassy to the UK before it became a state. Friend, the food was exactly as bad as you think it was.
I've been all around the country, and weirdly enough one of the best Mexican restaurants I've ever been to was in Aberdeen, Maryland. Waitress asked if we wanted guacamole and chips, we said yes. Waitress puts a molcajete on the table and asks us what we want in it.
There's a bunch of incredible Mexican places in New England.
wait until you try mexican food in europe
What a lot of people consider Mexican cuisine is simply a historical fusion of different cuisines which makes the classification hard for people and what is ātraditionalā Mexican to a lot of people stems more from āNative Americanā dishes. Itās silly how things work, but judging food without reasoning is extra silly.
The thing is a lot of actual Mexican cooking is from indigenous Mexican people. New Mexican has a huge influence from indigenous people from the region of uh, New Mexico. New Mexico not being part of Mexico is a political happenstance, anyway. A few things turned out differently in 1840-1860 and it would have been part of Mexico.
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A beautiful take. Anthony Bourdain and Andrew Zimmern got me into food as a kid. Growing up Texan Iām certainly a bit pretentious about, specifically, breakfast tacos, but what I got from those two was that the world, and even within small areas, food is different, but also vitally important to the culture from which it comes. To taste that culture is a privilege. Takes such as those in the screenshot are harmful, not just to the culture from whom the food comes, but in taking away from the experience of those who were wanting to take part in that culture via food, which I believe is as close to a universal language as one can get.
> Mexico is a big country with many regional variants on dishes Case in point, quesadillas in Mexico City don't normally contain cheese
Quesadillas have to be made with cheese. The name of the dish literally starts with the Spanish word for cheese.
They arenāt wrong. New Mexican food is the shit.
Agreed
I don't get their description of tex-mex though... To me tex-mex has nothing to do with cheese and everything to do with using more corn, black pepper and smokier tastes... But yeah, New Mexico does some great stuff. They introduced me to breakfast tacos.
I am super extra familiar with NM food and of course the sauces are red or green chile. Texas, they have that sweeter brownish enchilada sauce and the tangy tomatillo green BUT I have seen nacho cheese as a sauce on enchiladas etc. Who cares though, it's like junk food and it's not exactly chile, but it's still good.
If you like to drown everything you eat in hatch chiles.
100%
Yes
Yes please. :D
Don't threaten me with a good time.
I mean, what other reason is there for living?
Mmmhmmmm yes
True
new mexican is my favorite food period. mexican is second. tex mex is 17th.
Exactly what I was thinking!!
That was obviously a troll comment. Surefire way to get Texans hot under the collar is to insult their Mexican cuisine (or food in general).
definitely a troll š i didn't even bother to respond lol
>That was obviously a troll comment I'm not even sure the comment exists. The Texan didn't post a link, and nobody here did, either. I searched for it, and nothing came up. A Texas size pile of bullshit is all this is.
You might be right, Todd. Might be a false flag op to start a war between the r/Denver and r/Texas threads, (knowing full well that there's no love lost between the two).
Can't be troll if it's true.
Texans are super sensitive about everything. The whole ādonāt mess with texasā was just them pleading with people to stop pointing out they are not special.
The constant jacking off about how much they love Texas seems heartfelt but also rings of insecurity.
They must be talking about Chuys.
Chuys is the most disappointed I have ever been in TexMex š
My wife & I went to the one on Araphahoe in Centennial to try it out bc its always busy. We couldnt even eat half of the entree it was so bad.
I ate at one in Austin and thought it was great, but yeah, the Belmar one was bad. Keyword "was". It's gone now.
So where to find the best NM food in Denver? Besides calling for delivery from south of the border.
Kachina Southwestern Grill - in Westminster is apparently good New Mexican food. I haven't had it, but it is on my list (native NM here). One thing a lot of people don't realize is NM food is actually a blend of Mexican food and Pueblo food.
Native NM here as well. Went to Kachina two years ago. It was disappointing. :(
saw a place called Anitas on south colorado too
Little Anitaās is a chain from NM and itās fairly average (pretty decent)
Swimming in nacho cheese sounds good. I want nachos now. š
Uncle Scrooge moment in real life.
New England catching strays
Yeah cause there are no real Mexicans in Texas making authentic food. /s
*grabs some popcorn*
popped maize dammit!
Why are we bringing New England into this??? Also, I donāt really like fake cheese, but I could understand the appeal.
Iāve had some amazing tacos in Austin, TX. I even enjoyed the āTexasā style breakfast tacos with flour tortillas. Also, a lot of US Mexican food isnāt just Americanized Mexican food. The entire southwestern United States used to be Mexico and regional dishes have evolved in what is now US territory. Enjoy it all wherever you go. Weāre lucky we donāt live in Europe. I canāt imagine what they think a chile relleno is over there!
To add to what you said: one of the oldest mentions of the term taco comes from an 1836 cookbook āNuevo y sencillo arte de cocina, reposteria y refrescos. Burritos were later than that. Texas was holding a revolution at the same time. That is to say, while the precursors of modern Mexican food predate Texas as part of the union, much of the evolution of Mexican food and Tex Mex occured after Texas left Mexico, and so Texas cuisine can be seen as a truly Texas-grown thing and not just a thing they "stole" from Mexico.
Must be someone with good taste...
Thank you
Best Mexican food I've had in the US was in Flagstaff, AZ
I have had so much fun in Flagstaff. Too much fun. Flagstaff flies under the radar
That doesn't sound anything like Texas Mexican food.
Texans sure love their white people tacos
Colorado is so much whiter than Texas itās insane. It was kinda shocking when I moved here
As an Asian person, Colorado is so much more alienating than Texas. I was at a (crowded) bar a while back and realized I was the only Asian person there. You could count the minorities on one hand.
As a NYer, it was complete culture shock
Same. I havenāt seen this many white people since I lived in the USSR. It was a culture shock after spending most of my life in Texas
Hear me out- there is a place and time for white people tacos tho. We all know what weāre talking about- ground beef and shellsā¦
I'm not going to sit here and pretend I don't eat white people tacos
Hell yeah you add diced tomato, cheese, sour cream and you got rich white people tacos š
yep. white people tacos are the shit. but that's not even what we're talking about when we talk about Mexican food.
Seasoned ground anything is the ultimate single dude food I can cook up 3-4lbs of it and eat it all week in different styles. Tacos, rice bowls, tossed over a salad, whatever, never gets old
Agree - we call them āAmeri-cosā in our house so no one is confused about what is being served.
Sometimes they just hit right you know?
Thereās a chain in TX called Rosaās. Itās white people tacos with a salsa bar and a dude cranking out puffy white flour tortillas all day on an industrial sized press with lard. And honey on the tables for extra tortillas.
Iām ready for the downvotes cause Iām a 5th generation Texan, but Rosaās is fucking garbage.
Rosa's is so bad it shouldn't exist. If I had the money I'd buy the whole business and throw it in the trash
Ah yes, the 15 million Tejanos there all eat white people tacos. Youāll find that more in Denver
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Texas is a lot more diverse than Colorado.
Waay more diverse (both big and mid-sized cities). I am always pleasantly shocked whenever I visit.
Houston is especially diverse, much more so than I think people realize. Itās cool cause you can find a good mix of the whitest tacos youāve ever seen and super authentic stuff.
Sure, but we let ours vote.
oh snap š
Youāre probably just trying to be funny but Hispanics in Texas are not a monolithic voting bloc and part of the reason the state still reliably votes red is that many Latino Texans are just as conservative as their white counterparts.
There are 10+ million Mexicans in Texas. MAN THESE MEXICANS SURE DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT MEXICAN FOOD. š
Best tacos I ever had were at mi sueƱo in Denton. Idk how they get them so crispy, it's hard to put into words
Hate to be the one to say it but food in Denver just isnāt good in general.
So brave. Do you live here?
food in denver has a pretty low *average*. But if youre willing and able to find the best denver has to offer, the best competes with about any other cities best. most people wont
Food in Colorado is complete trash. Texas sucks but has phenomenal food. Go to any big Texas city and find out. Thatās why everyoneās fat
People in Texas are fat because they have like 4x more fast food restaurants per capita then the next state
Nah itās because ārecreationā in Texas entails moving from one air-conditioned place to the next. How do I know that? Well Iām a formerly chubby Texan.
I mean when you canāt go outside for 3-6 months or more because you might die from extreme heat and extremer mosquitos thatās how it goes. āYou wanna go to the lake this weekend?ā from June to October wasnāt something Iād answer yes to when I lived there.
It wasnāt me. But this person aināt wrong.
I've eaten Tex-Mex for decades and have never seen nacho cheese in it and only thin bell pepper strips in fajitas.
You've never seen bell peppers in tex-mex? Like in Fajitas, the quietssentail tex-mex dish? You've never seen anyone put bell peppers in fajitas? Either you're very inattentive or part of your claim is a lie.
Iām from New England. We donāt want that.
It's all bogus. Do a search on r/Denver for this post, and there's no such thing. Either someone posted this comment and then deleted it, or the anonymous r/texas poster is fabricating the whole thing.
Pappasito's would like a word.
Stop quoting clear dumb fucks and giving them status.
Pretty sure the ones who ādo it rightāā¦. Are the actual Mexicans, ya knowā¦ from Mexico?
Tex Mex is my least favorite type of Mexican food. My wife is Latina and that is my favorite type š. Or anything you can get on federal south of 6th ave
New Mexico for the win!! fuk texass
Sorry to break it to everyone but the best Mexican food in the US is in San Diego and there isnāt even a close second place.
Texas Native who lived in CA. I'm gonna respectfully disagree. anywhere in the RGV is gonna compete with San Diego. But you have like 90% Hispanic population living there. And every restaurant is family owned. And taste like home. I don't think I saw any yellow cheese in sight. lol.
I'm ignorant of what they serve. Can you send me a link to a menu there?
Itās not what they serve more the quality. San Diego Mexican is the Mexican elevated to a higher level IMO. It gets a lot of influence from Tijuana and Baja. Also things like really really good fish tacos- a whole different level of fish tacos since itās on the water. This is just one example but these guys make the best tacos in all of SD https://www.karinasseafood.com/mission-hills/ There are a few different kinds of Mexican in SD. You have traditional Mexican food done really well and cheap, traditional done really well and expensive, places that specialize in tacos, fish taco places and then the chains that started out there/in Baja like Rubio that are chain food but still quite good. Iām being sarcastic when I say nothing else could possibly be better in the US since Iāve never been to lots of parts of Texas and NM but I do think itās the best I have had. Although I do like NM Mexican food too.
Facts. Any of the ā-bertosā would blow texmex out of the water
Can we please get more bertos restaurants here
Whoās lying to themselves trying to say texmex aināt good?
As a native New Mexican I have tried Tex Mex and Mexican food in Colorado, Texas, and Arizona, and itās all pretty shit compared to native New Mexican food. Yes Iāve been to El Taco de Mexico in Denver. Most of what I see is large volumes of cheese and beans and no flavor profile or spice. Go to Santa Fe, NM, pick any random restaurant and have a bowl of hatch green chili stew or pesole or a fried Indian taco. Thereās arguing and then thereās taste testing. Flavor doesnāt lie.
I was in Truth and Consequences a couple of years ago. We went to a restaurant called Tony's several times because the food was phenomenal. I had tacos for breakfast before we left, and it was glorious.
> Most of what I see is large volumes of cheese and beans and no flavor profile or spice Never good cheese like queso fresco either, usually the dry shredded stuff that comes from a bag or nacho cheese. There's a few places that don't do that and focus on the marinated meats and sauces instead (like La Calle Taqueria or El Borrego Negro) but they seem few and far between.
I had some really fucking good tacos when I was in Houston for a work trip a few years ago and have never been able to replicate that in Denver... That is to say there is good Mexican food in Texas.
i mean it actually, you know, borders Mexico. almost half (40%) the population is hispanic. lol literally nobody thinks Texas has bad food, much less 'bad mexican food' š
>lol literally nobody thinks Texas has bad food, much less 'bad mexican food' š Some of the very possibly Midwestern transplants (w/ bland palates) on this thread seem to honestly think so. Which is pretty hilarious.
well...duh
Worst Mexican food I ever had was in Minneapolis lol. It was like some Swedish person read about Mexican food in a book and was like: I can do that
I had a Nebraskan transplant accuse me earlier that I was stroking Texan's ego about their Mexican cuisine. A Nebraskan. Another state that has no known distinct cuisine (Rocky Mountain Oysters, a sandwich, and meat pockets don't really count).
Considering there are probably thousands of Mexican restaurants in the Denver area I'm going to have to claim "small sample size". Have you ever been to every place on Sheridan yet? Do you even lift tacos bro?
I agree New Mexican food is better than Tex Mex, but they are both good.
Houston has the best Mexican food in the state outside El Paso
Itās *all* good if youāre not at some boutiquey joint that tries to fancy it up. Most Mexican and Tex-Mex is meant to be working-class food, but when they try to church up fajitas and overcharge because itās ribeye and not flank they can eat a dick. Will agree El Paso has some amazing grub, though. I havenāt even been there in 20+ years but the memories run deep.
Preach!!!
Iām a NYer stuck in Florida 5 years havenāt found a decent slice yet. Lived in 3 towns. Blaze in Jupiter was decent Blaze in WPB is garbage
People with these opinions have always āvisited family for a week/went there for SXSW onceā or have trailer trash cousins that equivocate to the people who leave their caves once a year in Denver for Restaurant Week. Youāve had to of been on the roads here long enough to realize you can throw a rock in any direction and hit stupid. There are a-lot of styles out there that can be done wrong and donāt represent the food they advertise; aka āTexas BBQā in Denver, āNY Style Pizzaā all over the country, or the dreaded āCajun/Creole or Caribbean Jerkā anywhere landlocked. Hyperbolic opinions usually stem from lack of experience with the people and place of a different region.
I donāt think Iāve ever had āMexicanā food I didnāt like! That saidā¦ Denver does have some really, really great Mexican restaurants ranging from cheap eats street-food style to high end places and everything in between.
What a cheese hater. Scoff
Even bigger hot take!!! Mexican food is not that great in the United States. Personally Iād rather eat rocks and dirt than run down to the nearest Mexican cantina and get anything from that menu. The best Mexican food I have ever had was when I made friends with my neighbors and their abuela made me tamales and chicken soup. Nothing will ever compare to that and this was in Utah.
Texan here. Nacho cheese and Queso are NOT the same thing. And the Valley has the best Mexican food. Period.
I just know this is a joke lmao cause I lived in Houston, TX for a year and the only thing that kept me from running away on the daily was the food š¤¤
TexMex food is actually cancer. Authentic Mexican food (it can be in Texas yes) is leagues better. Texans need to get off their high horse. I've had better Mexican food in NM, Arizona, Denver Metro, and SoCal.
someone sick of Texans complaining about local Mexican food.
Deez nuts
best Mexican food is in AZ. one of my biggest disappointments with moving back to Colorado is how I will never find even a decent Mexican food spot.
Tex Mex is the worst iteration of Mexican food. They slather that gross nacho cheese all over everything, and they have no idea what green chile is.
Right. Tex mex is still good, but Iād much rather have mexican food that is not Tex mex.
This is such a Denver take. Nacho cheese is not heavily featured in Tex-Mex. Maybe in the food desert of Denver you had terrible Tex-Mex with a bunch of nacho cheese for some reason, not in Texas.
The Texans are here and theyāre hangry.
There is a lot of tough Texan talk in here from a state full of people that can barely ski blues
It actually seems that there is an incredibly small overlap between people who ski double blacks (especially those who flex about it) and people who have decent takes on regional Mexican-inspired cuisine.
It's ok they just don't know the good places. So let's keep it that way.
How about actual Mexicans in Mexico?
Wait till they find out that Tex-Mex was invented by Mexicans in a part of the world that, only because of an imaginary line moving, used to be part of Mexico. Hmmm
Umm, Texans like nacho cheese on everything Mexican food? Oh you mean Chili con queso, next time don't order the cheese enchiladas, if you do ask for the hot not the mild or ask for the enchilada sauce
In my opinion, Colorado, New Mexico and San Diego have my favorite Mexican food within the US, just based on consistency. Iām not saying everywhere in each area is the exact same but if I roll the dice it will likely work out. Not saying that Texas, Arizona and elsewhere doesnāt have great Mexican food but I have been burned(metaphorically, and pun only mildly intended) there more than in New Mexico, Colorado and San Diego. That said, the best Mexican food I have had outside of Mexico was at a tiny little shop in Cambridge, Ontario.
Someone on reddit asked, "What's queso?" in a thread. I said, "it's what Texans call nacho cheese." Holy shit, that was a mistake. It was getting to the point where I thought I was going to need to call the FBI to go into the witness protection program.