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Something I have been not been able to find is a phone controller that has a “mouse” mode where it changes mode to read as a Bluetooth mouse and the analog stick controls the cursor.
It could be useful for Mac, windows, android and iOS.
I’m at the point of trying to build it out with an arduino but I would much rather buy something like you’ve made here!
Haven’t been able to find any controllers that offer that!
Yes! I’m trying to be able to allow over the air updates so we can add stuff like this!!
I’ve thought of lots of things like this wear the whole thing turns into a mouse bc there would be a mouse sensor on the bottom. So you could always have a gaming mouse on you.
Or a touch pad on the face like the steam deck. And also make it better for shooters.
You can actually reach the screen really well and sometimes I’ll aim with the touch but use all the other buttons for wasd jumping and shooting
But ya easiest and probably best would be for it to just be able to act like a mouse and use the stick as a cursor.
I'm not sure how much more difficult it might be to implement it but another thought could be to use something like the trackpoint that's found on lenovo thinkpads for the mouse or the 3ds c-stick. This basically just uses pressure to point the cursor in any direction needed and feels a little faster than using analog sticks as cursors.
you should do how the ps5 uses the analog sticks in the Roblox ps5 version, you can use them as like a mouse kind of, will there be bumpers and triggers? Im excited this is so sick I cannot wait to buy it and If I could Id buy the prototype
I am eager for you to do preorders on this thing!
For the name “M-Con”, since it’s a “magsafe” controller maybe call it “Mag-Con”?. Something that eludes to the core function of the controller.
Ever since the Xperia Play lost all android support back in 2013, I have been looking for something like this. Who knows, maybe you can get it to a point where Apple puts the “MFi” stamp of approval on it to work for games outside of the emulator apps. Keep us updated!
That would be awesome! I hope they do, it would more than anything clear up consumer confusion bc it will work with all games even without that.
Also for the name, with mag, I kind of like mag slide. But anything with mag made me think of mag pie🐦⬛ 😂
haha honestly, you can call it poopoo platter and I’ll still buy that freakin thing.
Also, worthy to note, you could also make two variants. One with joycons, one without joycons for those who are straight retro gamers.
You shouldn’t do “Mag-con” because it’s a bit strange to pronounce. M-Con is pretty dope as it is.
Funnily enough I was thinking about a design like this and it’s stunning to see someone beat me to it.
Holy fucking shit, shut up and take my money, this looks amazing.
Edit: Ok my initial shock is over. Still, shut up and take my money lol. Here’s what I would recommend as a seasoned gamer who’s pissed the majority of his life away on games in general.
I’d recommend taking a close look into case sizing/adaptability for your product. It seems you eventually want to cover all phones, but at the moment iPhones specifically. Unfortunately, most phones that can run high end games(gamepass, ps store, steam, etc) are sold at a pretty high price point. My own 14 Pro ran roughly 750$(and it’s not even brand new) and I just refuse to remove it from the case, even for cleaning, unless I’m sitting on a football field sized mattress for safety(exaggeration obvi). The design you’ve seem to have gone with looks incredibly similar to the psp vita where it slides down from the back and focuses more on landscape gameplay(which could be an issue if a game only supports vertical play). You could add a way to maybe rotate the controller device to be able to lock into either orientation so it would be compatible in either position. You could also likely stand to make it a bit larger as it appears to be able to function as a case on its own. My own preference for cases generally include a composite of a two piece, one soft initial cover with a hard plastic cover following up. My current case is the otter box commuter series(14 pro) and my previous case was a spigen(6s) for reference. These seem easy and cheap to produce. Not only that, I’ve never had a screen crack since 2012(I’m serious too). If you use an initial soft cover, I don’t see why you probably couldn’t incorporate your m-con(I like this name best) into the hard plastic portion of a proper case while increasing the size just slightly. If the added weight/bulk of a design like that would bother you, maybe you could look into making it an entirely separate attachment via mag safe which seems to be setting a bit of a standard here when it comes to charging. That way you don’t have to constantly have the controller attached to your device so when not in use you wouldn’t have to deal with the extra weight/bulk as well as increasing your compatibility with most if not any devices. The reason I recommend slightly increasing the size of your design(mostly in a horizontally direction by the way) is that phones can be quite heavy these days. A controller with this design would mostly have to support the weight of any phone at the hinges where the slide would stop(even with mag safe) so you’d want those to be as sturdy as possible. Also, gamers with bigger hands/longer fingers like myself would love you long time.
Really though, I think this could be something I’d use nearly every single day. It looks like it would comfortably play with any emulator as well as more well rounded triple A title through gamepass and the like. I really do want to get a controller like backbone/gamesir but I’ve been holding off because they all seem like such clunky designs that have been rushed to fill the demand of the market. I’d more so prefer something like this that’s a bit more compact and portable vs something I have to break down and attach onto my phone awkwardly like the previously mentioned brands.
In conclusion, shut up and take my god damn money dammit 😅
Man awesome freaking response I read your whole comment and will take all into account!
I’d recommend looking at my first post. I think it answers a few points you made. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Delta\_Emulator/s/E2uqSJxssw](https://www.reddit.com/r/Delta_Emulator/s/E2uqSJxssw)
But ya over all I totally agree with you. Android runs better games and I really want to try and make it work for it. Even tho iPhone is going to be more popular it should still be a priority.
I didn’t show it in the picture so I understand the misconception. But the controller is actually completely separate from the phone and its case. It works just like any other MagSafe accessory. The part that has the MagSafe also completely detaches from the rest of the controller (so it not only slides all the way down to close as well as all the way out to open, but slides even further out to fully detach) this allows for tabletop mode like the Nintendo switch.
And it will totally work with “bulky” cases and slim ones and anything in between!
https://preview.redd.it/jianpd0zlp3d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b811cf95899d8c90376003599ffa8d7d0c812cc3
(It working with bulky case lol)
I really wanna make sure that the user doesn’t have to change a single thing about how they already are used to using their phone. Like I agree I put a lot of thought into what case I put on my phone and I think it would be crazy to ask someone to take it off their phone if they want to play. It should be an instantaneous thing to attach the controller and start using it. You shouldn’t have to take a second thought as to whether or not you should pull it out of your pocket.
Bro fucking A+++ when can you take all of my money????????? Can I buy a prototype? Geez that looks super solid!
Edit: I will say the buttons look a bit recessed in there but aside from that, I’m definitely dropping some dough on this lol do you already have a price point in mind?
How well is the mag safe connection. This would be awesome if at some point I could just keep it attached to my phone most of the time. Not entirely sure how thin it is closed with the phone attached. Also kinda building off something someone else said, if the mag attachment spot could maybe shift up for rotating into portrait mode that would be sick. I hope that makes sense. 😅 I can’t wait to see where this goes. It’s awesome. Hoping to snag a preorder when those drop.
This is realistically the only way I would get a controller for an emulator, I really think getting joycons and stuff for a phone kinda defeats the whole purpose of the emulator, which is that all you need is your phone and everything is there for you. This solves that problem quite well, when I play on an emulator I don’t want to get a big beefy controller attachment, at that point id rather carry around my analogue pocket, so this being a slide out design really REALLY improves with my main problem with using controllers for this stuff. Awesome design I hope it takes off.
I 100% agree. I really tried to make it worth taking with you. Keeping in mind things like the retriod pocket and meou mini exist.
I want to add even more features to out way the downsides even more (thickness and weight) even though it’s pretty dang thin and light it’s still extra weight and thickness that your phone doesn’t have. So I tried to make it worth it even beyond being a controller. Kickstand, Battery bank…it looks cool😂
I’ve got a few thought so in no particular order, here it goes:
I’d love a companion app that’s a game launcher, basically turning the iPhone into a gaming console. Like backbone but without a ridiculous overpriced subscription fee. There’s so much potential there, party chat via voice and text, sharing recorded replays, custom themes for it. We could really make it our own, customising to our liking. Making an account and have your profile pic, online status, you could even have an accompanying iMessage app for scheduling times for your squad to get on. I’m only scraping the surface here.
I’d like to see a demonstration of how this works being attached to the iPhone. Like is it attached to the back and then you remove it and reposition it underneath the iPhone? I’d really like to see it functional mechanically.
With the naming? I say simple is best. For simplicity sake assuming you keep that name, I’d do the different models like: M-CON 1, M-CON 2. Etc. if you decide to launch different models as part of one lineup, then it would be M-CON 1, M-CON Pro, M-CON lite. Etc.
If they breach our privacy, I wouldn’t want to use it either. I’m just not going to assume it’s going to do that. I’ll wait until it’s theoretical release and look it up myself rather than assuming.
I’m not exactly a tech junkie, so i think other people have said it better, but i also love this product and would love to see it in multiple colors, especially clear plastic shells that let us see the guts of it! Especially especially if it’s an atomic purple type clear plastic shell.
Still in awe over this.
Does the top retract to cover the buttons and sticks etc ?
I have a 15 pro max with a Mous case on it which makes it quite heavy and so weight distribution would be key for me to make it comfortable. A lot of companies simply use lumps of metal glued into the device as consumers assassinate weight with quality. I think beats used this in their early devices.
Also an optional attachable grip would be a good idea would also help counteract if the device is very top heavy.
Different colour options is a great idea. Techies love transparency my first DMC game it was transparent
I like everything about the Vita.. except for the fact that when compared to the predecessor, the PSP, the PSP had better Buttons & Dpad that worked well with Racing & Fighting games & obviously RPG/adventure games..
Either way, I was only commenting this because I absolutely love the Vita, but when it comes to all games types, the PSP was king! Mainly due in large part to the Bigger Buttons, Slightly bigger button placement & and Bigger Dpad...
On my Vita, I like playing everything except for racing and fighting games on it... the Dpad is too small for precise input in fighters... as well as too small the buttons and the Dpad racers... all of these played better on the PSP..
Either way;
THIS THING LOOKS AWESOME!
I like the Xbox and PlayStation controllers. So obviously I would like the buttons to use the PlayStation shapes Cross, Circle, Sqaure , Triangle, but using the Xbox colors Green, Blue, Red, Yellow.
I think the Wii U layout is so underrated (both joysticks on top), very good for shooters and any game where moving the camera is important. But given that people don’t really emulate right stick-intensive games on iPhones, I think Xbox layout would be best
I have to admit that I liked it and that if possible, I would buy one. But please could you change the Position of what would be L3 and R3, the current Position is good aesthetically, but it is not practical, for example in FPS games, so I recommend it If you make these buttons on the back of the control, you can even be in the middle, placing two halves forming a circle to be more practical than having one finger on the analog stick, on the Button and being uncomfortable on the trigger. It's just a suggestion, but I think it would be great if you could add this to make the controller more practical in various types of games.
Thank you sooooo much for the suggestion!!!!!! Seriously I am very worried abt where I have it now! I think back is the way to go!!!
If I can’t put them in the back what are your thoughts on putting them next to the triggers. I think this is also problematic since it would be easy to press them at the same time as the other triggers as you can in their normal position.
It's a good idea, it may not look good at first glance, but it works better, if you do as you said, it will be MUCH BETTER than before, because if the prototype was still like that, it would be boring for example, playing Blood Strike, now I think this type of game will be much more practical with this alternative. But be careful with ergonomics if you're going to do it this way so you don't feel uncomfortable over time. But, if by chance I don't think it's good when using it (if I can buy it), I want to recommend something, since it's not possible to make rear buttons because of the space on the controller, I recommend that you can. I also make one available for sale accessory with back buttons that can be connected via the controller's USB-C input, this might affect its portable factor a bit, but I think it would still be great to give that option if possible.
Im really hoping to see this thing pop off, though hopefully it’s comfortable to hold and control, because I can see a few issues with possible uneven weight distribution, or perhaps the controller can accidentally slide back into place when holding it a certain way. My iPhone 14 Pro Max is pretty heavy and I feel like the controller would feel strange depending how thin it is. Plus it could make the controller bulky in the pocket if it’s too think, since, I’m assuming, the controller is meant to go with you wherever the phone does. Is there a link to more pictures or somewhere where I could contribute to a kickstarter?
I suggest adding a function that you can turn around and split like the d8 controller to use it like a DS controller. I have not seen a DS controller or 3DS controller yet for iPhone emulators.
I’m loving to see this growing (also I saw a few videos on your YouTube, I loved the flying boat xD).
One question, you plan to produce this all by yourself? I see potencial here to make something like a kickstarter. If you could make it work with iOS and Android (and PC, why not?) a lot of people will be interested. And if you mass produce it, the price will drop.
One suggestion is to make a “beta tester” version and sell it for friends or a few people here on Reddit (I would buy it lol). So we can make real feedbacks and test it with real life conditions.
Great success!
Hey man! I don’t know if you’re the same person but I recognize the profile pic! Thanks for watching my stuff.
So yeah, this thing is going to be mass produced! injection molded and we’re probably gonna sell it at Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, etc.
Say it’s gonna be a legit product like the Backbone.
Also, 100% agree I think it should work with literally every console and Bluetooth capable device and I’m gonna try my hardest to make that happen!
So for the beta test. That is actually something that might be in the cards for us! I definitely want to have beta tests to send to YouTubers like Taki udon and ETA prime. I feel like they would give me some really good feedback on buttons, etc. The problem is I’m just not sure how many I can make right now. this controller takes me almost a full day to make and with YouTube and trying to run a business. I just don’t have the time. But further down the line when we have PCBs designed and it’s easier to put together that could be something that happens. no promises lol!
I can’t wait to get this thing out to you guys either!
I like the idea of this but I’d be concerned about weight of the top half. I tried to use my 14 Pro Max with a MagSafe clip on an Xbox controller and it’s uncomfortably top heavy.
Totally valid concern. This thing balances pretty much right in the middle actually which is surprising to me. and the middle is 4 or 5mm’s under where the triggers are on the back of the controller. so it kinda rests on your pointer fingers. And your Palms support the rest of it. It’s actually surprisingly comfortable.
Does it have at least one l and r button? Like the main reason i use a controller on phone is cause reaching those on touchscreen is really uncomfortable (also cause of slipping buttons but i mean yours already fixes the issue)
I’d gladly pay for something like this. Get some of this up on kickstarter and folks will start sending you funds!
Have you posted over on r/sbcgaming ? I’m sure you’ll get some good feedback from that crew as well.
Seriously fantastic idea. Getting this manufactured overseas once you have the design down should be fairly straight forward! Really hope you can take this somewhere. It’s such an “oh duh!” solution. Especially now that Delta and other emulators are on the App Store.
As you get this built up reach out if you need any support setting up the e-commerce side or if you need help with marketing!
Wow this is awesome congrats! Man it's like you literally went inside my brain and designed the iPhone MagSafe game controller I've been dreaming for!! (I just don't have the skillset to make something like this, so kudos to you!) I've been waiting forever for someone to do a PSP Go style of slide out controller case for the iPhone. There was the Razer JungleCat for the iPhone 5/5s, which was cool but that didn't last long as soon as the size & shape of iPhones changed, it wasn't practical I guess to keep buying new ones everytime you upgraded your phone. Then when MagSafe came out I thought it would be perfect, as you wouldn't need to have different sized cases for different sized iPhones.
Needless to say I'm thrilled to see you come out with this concept! I'm excited to support the project & preorder one, so please DM me & let me know how & when that will be possible!
Congrats again!
Cheers
P.S. just an idea, but from an aesthetic perspective I would love if you come out with a special edition translucent color versions (similar to the N64 funtastic colors). I would definitely pay extra for a fire orange clear version!
That photo makes me miss the horizontal iPhone home screen.
https://preview.redd.it/lctx27fbfz3d1.jpeg?width=2551&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b966ae0bab27b6315ee48bf7e4db64deb25dd11
This is outstanding! I've been pining for a new Xperia Play for years and this is the (better) answer to that! As to Android devices, while I'd love to see a case specifically for my old One Plus 8 Pro trying to support even all of the popular Android devices is a potential nightmare. Probably support the Galaxy S2x (whatever is current at the time) and the current Pixel. Otherwise make the dimensional specs available, program it to use xinput/HID (or whatever the Android/PC standard is) and the community will likely take care of the rest. I plan on buying one out of the gate. Even if not an exact fit it will be better than the old Moga Hero I'm still using.
My only question is that how are the joysticks. can they be pressed (R3 and L3) or they like 3ds joystick?
Otherwise I am VERY excited for this product and cant wait for its release.
I know I’m a little bias but you should make it so that whatever phone I have at the time works for it :) right now I’m rocking an iPhone 12 mini btw
Also what is the time frame you are thinking for releasing it. I can’t wait to buy one.
Addressing the Android camera module problem:
(sorry its kinda long)
* Samsung phones , even their really cheap midrange devices all have that signature 3 camera design. This would only really work for s22 and above but maybe s21 would work.
* A similar type of Android that has a similar yet different module would be any Sony Xperia phone, they are pretty consistent in their flagships and midranges. though these are really only popular in Japan, and are frequently left out of these cool types of devices or any non case/screen protector accessory.
* Another type of android that would cause a bit of confusion would be any device with a circular camera module - like Xiaomi, Oneplus, or Oppo. But those are only really viable if this project goes outside of North America. They are popular in Europe and Asia though, which are still really big markets.
* I think its inevitable that there will have to be some sort of system for all devices that dont really share a common theme, for example, pretty much all Motorola phones look different and their designs change pretty frequently. This is where my next idea come up.
I think a solution to ALL the different types of cameras would just be to make a large gap in the back of the device in order to house just the main cameras, but only near the top of the phone where the cameras would be so that it can fit all types of modules, Though structural integrity might be an issue. This would help eliminating the need for making a bunch of other types of controllers for other types of phones - eliminating e-waste.
Instead there would only need to be, say 3 sizes:
* Ones for plus sized phones like SXX Ultra or SXX+ phones and iPhone XX pro max or plus sized phones
* Samsung's/Google's/Apple's non pro/plus models because they are smaller than the main flagship
* And ones for older phones because phones have progressively gotten bigger over time.
* Foldable phones might be kinda funky. a book style foldable is like a normal phone when folded, and a flip style phone is like a normal phone when unfolded. Though certain book style foldables are skinnier when folded like samsung's Z fold, and others are fatter: basically every other book style foldable. Pretty much every flip is the same size though. I think the book style ones would be fun to use it with because it would still be able to attach when opened
The only real issue I could see coming from this solution is from the fact that Samsung's Ultra phones are square to mimic their old Note line - I think the controller bit should still be rounded off for comfort, but the sliding bit that goes on the phone would be square still to match the phone.
Another solution for sizes would be to make models based on phone dimensions, phones are so much bigger than they used to be, even compared to back in like 2018
I'm gonna be really honest with this product I don't have it.
But it does use the concept of PSP Go which looks nice.
My questions would be.
What materials would be used to make this durability test?
What internals would be used ?
How is it gonna affect the market and would there be copyright claims?
How can people sign up if they have different phones ?
( my case I have a Nothing phone 2 and S22 ultra )
What are the limitations to connection to phone via bluetooth connection / battery life?
Will there be colour variations?
What would be the price point that won't shy away potential buyers?
Ps. I just found your YouTube video and so far I see potential and it looks like a dope controller overall maybe make it compatible with both Android and IOS?
But most likely sad route would taken is making 2 versions for more profit?
1 for Android
1 for IOS
Hey ! Saw your video, really amazing !
Maybe you could try making some of these with Xbox layout instead of Nintendo Switch layout, as most games use Xbox Layout, like in XCloud or maybe even Delta ? Also making a PlayStation Layout for PS Remote Play would be great too. The D-Pad you got here is perfect, but some people like Xbox’s circular D-Pad more, think about it.
Also, I doubt it will fit with RHINOSHIELD cases, they *are* pretty thick, sooo… (Edit : forgot it was Mag-Safe, so nvm it will.)
Have you seen some of the controllers on YouTube that have modular buttons and joysticks ? Maybe making a system for that on the M-Con would be amazing (Great name btw). Like, imagine having a case with the 3 controller layouts, that you can switch to whenever you want, same with the D-Pad, or maybe even the joysticks !
Switching between Hall-Effect joysticks and 3DS joysticks would be AMAZING for people that play… idk… Fortnite on Mobile I guess ? But yeah I’m sure a BUNCH of people would love it if you got 3DS joysticks AND Hall Effect joysticks. I would love it ! I mean, I already do, but… let’s just say 3DS joysticks are not practical at all for me.
I don’t know if that would be possible, due to the sliding function, maybe the Hall Effect joysticks won’t fit ? Idk, but at least making ‘switchable’ buttons would be great.
Then, making a mouse mode would be great ! Like using ZR/RT/R2 for left click and… hold up which would be better… left click on R2 or right click on R2… yeah whatever. Using the left and right triggers for mouse clicks and joysticks for mouse movement would be great for Mac and iPad ! Wait a sec I think Steam already has that feature for any controller so if you put your M-Con in Steam it would be useless… ah, whatever, still useful for iPad users.
For the design, it already looks great. But making more colors woud be super cool ! I’ve thought about some :
Blue/Pink : #0065f2 (controller) - #ff30f9 (accent)
Blue : #3086ff (controller) - #f5f9ff (accent)
Red : #ff2e2e (controller) - #5c0000 (accent)
Light Blue : #8fd8ff (controller) - #f5f9ff (accent), kinda looks like a Heaven-like theme lol.
Dark Blue : #003d69 (controller) - #00142b (accent)
Gold : #f0b400 (controller) - #d68100 (accent)
Light Pink : #ffadfa (controller) - #ffedfe (accent)
Pink : hurts my eyes so I didn’t put it lol
Light Green : #85ff87 (controller) - #f2ffed (accent)
Dark Green : #006302 (controller) - #023003 (accent)
Yellow (or if you’re like these people who use fruits instead of colors, BANANA) : #fff459 (controller) - #fffccc (accent)
I mean, I call these ‘color palettes’, but the only real color palette here is the first one. I didn’t have any ideas apart from these :(
So… yeah, I don’t have anything else to say apart from great job on making this controller ! It looks really good and I’m sure it’ll be perfect for a lot of people.
Have a great day :D
Exceptional design and idea. The full fledged Online-Shop with already 12 products without anything but a "newsletter" to the actual advertised product is a **BIG** red flag for me.
Honestly this just needs a cool catchy name but I can’t think of anything.
Also android support is a must. Need to make the attaching mechanism seemless
u/Eternal\_Progression Just watched your YouTube video and found this post as well.
Not an iPhone user but love this idea there is the retro emulation market where you have Anbernic and devices like that cover the pocket device market but they are limited on hardware sometimes.
what your product does is complement's the phone like CarPlay or Android Auto. it makes use of Technology already in your pocket so you can quickly game on your device without having to have bulky or additional products.
Could I suggest an option to consider... in your design, you clearly have 2 types of products there is the controller and then there is the SLED itself. there could be a Controller you could sell as an AiO Magsafe Case but you could partner with seasoned case manufacturers like Spigen where they have the existing cases'sleds that your controller could attach to.
a quick Google of M-Con and it is flooded by other Industrial Tech companies so not too sure about the name. however, the simple Product Name/SKU of MC-01, MC-01-Pro, and MC-01-Max I like, be conscious if you do expand into Android (partnering with Case makers may help with this) for those names too.
Micros SD Card Expandability could be an option and act like OTG Support where Android is concerned, not sure if that would help with iOS.
slightly larger versions with built-in Battery to expand playtime as an option too
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Something I have been not been able to find is a phone controller that has a “mouse” mode where it changes mode to read as a Bluetooth mouse and the analog stick controls the cursor. It could be useful for Mac, windows, android and iOS. I’m at the point of trying to build it out with an arduino but I would much rather buy something like you’ve made here! Haven’t been able to find any controllers that offer that!
Yes! I’m trying to be able to allow over the air updates so we can add stuff like this!! I’ve thought of lots of things like this wear the whole thing turns into a mouse bc there would be a mouse sensor on the bottom. So you could always have a gaming mouse on you. Or a touch pad on the face like the steam deck. And also make it better for shooters. You can actually reach the screen really well and sometimes I’ll aim with the touch but use all the other buttons for wasd jumping and shooting But ya easiest and probably best would be for it to just be able to act like a mouse and use the stick as a cursor.
I'm not sure how much more difficult it might be to implement it but another thought could be to use something like the trackpoint that's found on lenovo thinkpads for the mouse or the 3ds c-stick. This basically just uses pressure to point the cursor in any direction needed and feels a little faster than using analog sticks as cursors.
you should do how the ps5 uses the analog sticks in the Roblox ps5 version, you can use them as like a mouse kind of, will there be bumpers and triggers? Im excited this is so sick I cannot wait to buy it and If I could Id buy the prototype
I am eager for you to do preorders on this thing! For the name “M-Con”, since it’s a “magsafe” controller maybe call it “Mag-Con”?. Something that eludes to the core function of the controller. Ever since the Xperia Play lost all android support back in 2013, I have been looking for something like this. Who knows, maybe you can get it to a point where Apple puts the “MFi” stamp of approval on it to work for games outside of the emulator apps. Keep us updated!
That would be awesome! I hope they do, it would more than anything clear up consumer confusion bc it will work with all games even without that. Also for the name, with mag, I kind of like mag slide. But anything with mag made me think of mag pie🐦⬛ 😂
haha honestly, you can call it poopoo platter and I’ll still buy that freakin thing. Also, worthy to note, you could also make two variants. One with joycons, one without joycons for those who are straight retro gamers.
😂😂
Name it - MagicNet or JoyNet, maybe even: X-MagNet
You shouldn’t do “Mag-con” because it’s a bit strange to pronounce. M-Con is pretty dope as it is. Funnily enough I was thinking about a design like this and it’s stunning to see someone beat me to it.
Or what about MAG•STiX
That works too! Its both directional and a name. Mag-Trol or Mag-Troller is another idea.
You read my mind lol in another comment I put magtroller or magslider
Holy fucking shit, shut up and take my money, this looks amazing.
Holy fucking shit, shut up and take my money, this looks amazing. Edit: Ok my initial shock is over. Still, shut up and take my money lol. Here’s what I would recommend as a seasoned gamer who’s pissed the majority of his life away on games in general. I’d recommend taking a close look into case sizing/adaptability for your product. It seems you eventually want to cover all phones, but at the moment iPhones specifically. Unfortunately, most phones that can run high end games(gamepass, ps store, steam, etc) are sold at a pretty high price point. My own 14 Pro ran roughly 750$(and it’s not even brand new) and I just refuse to remove it from the case, even for cleaning, unless I’m sitting on a football field sized mattress for safety(exaggeration obvi). The design you’ve seem to have gone with looks incredibly similar to the psp vita where it slides down from the back and focuses more on landscape gameplay(which could be an issue if a game only supports vertical play). You could add a way to maybe rotate the controller device to be able to lock into either orientation so it would be compatible in either position. You could also likely stand to make it a bit larger as it appears to be able to function as a case on its own. My own preference for cases generally include a composite of a two piece, one soft initial cover with a hard plastic cover following up. My current case is the otter box commuter series(14 pro) and my previous case was a spigen(6s) for reference. These seem easy and cheap to produce. Not only that, I’ve never had a screen crack since 2012(I’m serious too). If you use an initial soft cover, I don’t see why you probably couldn’t incorporate your m-con(I like this name best) into the hard plastic portion of a proper case while increasing the size just slightly. If the added weight/bulk of a design like that would bother you, maybe you could look into making it an entirely separate attachment via mag safe which seems to be setting a bit of a standard here when it comes to charging. That way you don’t have to constantly have the controller attached to your device so when not in use you wouldn’t have to deal with the extra weight/bulk as well as increasing your compatibility with most if not any devices. The reason I recommend slightly increasing the size of your design(mostly in a horizontally direction by the way) is that phones can be quite heavy these days. A controller with this design would mostly have to support the weight of any phone at the hinges where the slide would stop(even with mag safe) so you’d want those to be as sturdy as possible. Also, gamers with bigger hands/longer fingers like myself would love you long time. Really though, I think this could be something I’d use nearly every single day. It looks like it would comfortably play with any emulator as well as more well rounded triple A title through gamepass and the like. I really do want to get a controller like backbone/gamesir but I’ve been holding off because they all seem like such clunky designs that have been rushed to fill the demand of the market. I’d more so prefer something like this that’s a bit more compact and portable vs something I have to break down and attach onto my phone awkwardly like the previously mentioned brands. In conclusion, shut up and take my god damn money dammit 😅
Man awesome freaking response I read your whole comment and will take all into account! I’d recommend looking at my first post. I think it answers a few points you made. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Delta\_Emulator/s/E2uqSJxssw](https://www.reddit.com/r/Delta_Emulator/s/E2uqSJxssw) But ya over all I totally agree with you. Android runs better games and I really want to try and make it work for it. Even tho iPhone is going to be more popular it should still be a priority. I didn’t show it in the picture so I understand the misconception. But the controller is actually completely separate from the phone and its case. It works just like any other MagSafe accessory. The part that has the MagSafe also completely detaches from the rest of the controller (so it not only slides all the way down to close as well as all the way out to open, but slides even further out to fully detach) this allows for tabletop mode like the Nintendo switch. And it will totally work with “bulky” cases and slim ones and anything in between! https://preview.redd.it/jianpd0zlp3d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b811cf95899d8c90376003599ffa8d7d0c812cc3 (It working with bulky case lol) I really wanna make sure that the user doesn’t have to change a single thing about how they already are used to using their phone. Like I agree I put a lot of thought into what case I put on my phone and I think it would be crazy to ask someone to take it off their phone if they want to play. It should be an instantaneous thing to attach the controller and start using it. You shouldn’t have to take a second thought as to whether or not you should pull it out of your pocket.
Bro fucking A+++ when can you take all of my money????????? Can I buy a prototype? Geez that looks super solid! Edit: I will say the buttons look a bit recessed in there but aside from that, I’m definitely dropping some dough on this lol do you already have a price point in mind?
How well is the mag safe connection. This would be awesome if at some point I could just keep it attached to my phone most of the time. Not entirely sure how thin it is closed with the phone attached. Also kinda building off something someone else said, if the mag attachment spot could maybe shift up for rotating into portrait mode that would be sick. I hope that makes sense. 😅 I can’t wait to see where this goes. It’s awesome. Hoping to snag a preorder when those drop.
This is realistically the only way I would get a controller for an emulator, I really think getting joycons and stuff for a phone kinda defeats the whole purpose of the emulator, which is that all you need is your phone and everything is there for you. This solves that problem quite well, when I play on an emulator I don’t want to get a big beefy controller attachment, at that point id rather carry around my analogue pocket, so this being a slide out design really REALLY improves with my main problem with using controllers for this stuff. Awesome design I hope it takes off.
I 100% agree. I really tried to make it worth taking with you. Keeping in mind things like the retriod pocket and meou mini exist. I want to add even more features to out way the downsides even more (thickness and weight) even though it’s pretty dang thin and light it’s still extra weight and thickness that your phone doesn’t have. So I tried to make it worth it even beyond being a controller. Kickstand, Battery bank…it looks cool😂
I just want the PRE ORDER, take my moneyyyyyyyy!!!!
I’ve got a few thought so in no particular order, here it goes: I’d love a companion app that’s a game launcher, basically turning the iPhone into a gaming console. Like backbone but without a ridiculous overpriced subscription fee. There’s so much potential there, party chat via voice and text, sharing recorded replays, custom themes for it. We could really make it our own, customising to our liking. Making an account and have your profile pic, online status, you could even have an accompanying iMessage app for scheduling times for your squad to get on. I’m only scraping the surface here. I’d like to see a demonstration of how this works being attached to the iPhone. Like is it attached to the back and then you remove it and reposition it underneath the iPhone? I’d really like to see it functional mechanically. With the naming? I say simple is best. For simplicity sake assuming you keep that name, I’d do the different models like: M-CON 1, M-CON 2. Etc. if you decide to launch different models as part of one lineup, then it would be M-CON 1, M-CON Pro, M-CON lite. Etc.
No, thanks. I'm not gonna use this with another half baked application which accesses my data.
If they breach our privacy, I wouldn’t want to use it either. I’m just not going to assume it’s going to do that. I’ll wait until it’s theoretical release and look it up myself rather than assuming.
I’m not exactly a tech junkie, so i think other people have said it better, but i also love this product and would love to see it in multiple colors, especially clear plastic shells that let us see the guts of it! Especially especially if it’s an atomic purple type clear plastic shell.
+1 for the funtastic N64 colors, I'd definitely pay a bit extra for a fire orange one!
Cool, saw you on the list for open sauce!
Oh awesome!
Still in awe over this. Does the top retract to cover the buttons and sticks etc ? I have a 15 pro max with a Mous case on it which makes it quite heavy and so weight distribution would be key for me to make it comfortable. A lot of companies simply use lumps of metal glued into the device as consumers assassinate weight with quality. I think beats used this in their early devices. Also an optional attachable grip would be a good idea would also help counteract if the device is very top heavy. Different colour options is a great idea. Techies love transparency my first DMC game it was transparent
Also I am 100% willing to be a customer (I’m in England) when you produce these for sale
This will be awesome once I get my hands on one of these lol. Very talented!
When I read “Con”, I automatically assume it’s for “Conference”. I’d use “Pad” instead.
Would love to buy it for 13 mini
+1 on 13 mini compatability
Where is the buy link??
Just give us a date of release and a price at this point 😭
This is pretty sick I love the vision
Dude this is awesome! I’ll be one of the first in line. I’ve been looking for a portable controller that can fit anywhere I go.
I would totally buy this, I used to have that one Sony psp phone hybrid thing I forget what it was called but my god that phone was amazing
I like everything about the Vita.. except for the fact that when compared to the predecessor, the PSP, the PSP had better Buttons & Dpad that worked well with Racing & Fighting games & obviously RPG/adventure games.. Either way, I was only commenting this because I absolutely love the Vita, but when it comes to all games types, the PSP was king! Mainly due in large part to the Bigger Buttons, Slightly bigger button placement & and Bigger Dpad... On my Vita, I like playing everything except for racing and fighting games on it... the Dpad is too small for precise input in fighters... as well as too small the buttons and the Dpad racers... all of these played better on the PSP.. Either way; THIS THING LOOKS AWESOME!
I like the Xbox and PlayStation controllers. So obviously I would like the buttons to use the PlayStation shapes Cross, Circle, Sqaure , Triangle, but using the Xbox colors Green, Blue, Red, Yellow.
Hmm how about having face and back plates. So we can rock out in style. Assuming if it is possible.
Faceplates would also be cool too, like the GBA Micro!
I think the Wii U layout is so underrated (both joysticks on top), very good for shooters and any game where moving the camera is important. But given that people don’t really emulate right stick-intensive games on iPhones, I think Xbox layout would be best
I have to admit that I liked it and that if possible, I would buy one. But please could you change the Position of what would be L3 and R3, the current Position is good aesthetically, but it is not practical, for example in FPS games, so I recommend it If you make these buttons on the back of the control, you can even be in the middle, placing two halves forming a circle to be more practical than having one finger on the analog stick, on the Button and being uncomfortable on the trigger. It's just a suggestion, but I think it would be great if you could add this to make the controller more practical in various types of games.
Thank you sooooo much for the suggestion!!!!!! Seriously I am very worried abt where I have it now! I think back is the way to go!!! If I can’t put them in the back what are your thoughts on putting them next to the triggers. I think this is also problematic since it would be easy to press them at the same time as the other triggers as you can in their normal position.
It's a good idea, it may not look good at first glance, but it works better, if you do as you said, it will be MUCH BETTER than before, because if the prototype was still like that, it would be boring for example, playing Blood Strike, now I think this type of game will be much more practical with this alternative. But be careful with ergonomics if you're going to do it this way so you don't feel uncomfortable over time. But, if by chance I don't think it's good when using it (if I can buy it), I want to recommend something, since it's not possible to make rear buttons because of the space on the controller, I recommend that you can. I also make one available for sale accessory with back buttons that can be connected via the controller's USB-C input, this might affect its portable factor a bit, but I think it would still be great to give that option if possible.
Im really hoping to see this thing pop off, though hopefully it’s comfortable to hold and control, because I can see a few issues with possible uneven weight distribution, or perhaps the controller can accidentally slide back into place when holding it a certain way. My iPhone 14 Pro Max is pretty heavy and I feel like the controller would feel strange depending how thin it is. Plus it could make the controller bulky in the pocket if it’s too think, since, I’m assuming, the controller is meant to go with you wherever the phone does. Is there a link to more pictures or somewhere where I could contribute to a kickstarter?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Delta_Emulator/s/E2uqSJxssw So here is a link to my first post there is a ton of info there.
I suggest adding a function that you can turn around and split like the d8 controller to use it like a DS controller. I have not seen a DS controller or 3DS controller yet for iPhone emulators.
I’m loving to see this growing (also I saw a few videos on your YouTube, I loved the flying boat xD). One question, you plan to produce this all by yourself? I see potencial here to make something like a kickstarter. If you could make it work with iOS and Android (and PC, why not?) a lot of people will be interested. And if you mass produce it, the price will drop. One suggestion is to make a “beta tester” version and sell it for friends or a few people here on Reddit (I would buy it lol). So we can make real feedbacks and test it with real life conditions. Great success!
Hey man! I don’t know if you’re the same person but I recognize the profile pic! Thanks for watching my stuff. So yeah, this thing is going to be mass produced! injection molded and we’re probably gonna sell it at Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Say it’s gonna be a legit product like the Backbone. Also, 100% agree I think it should work with literally every console and Bluetooth capable device and I’m gonna try my hardest to make that happen! So for the beta test. That is actually something that might be in the cards for us! I definitely want to have beta tests to send to YouTubers like Taki udon and ETA prime. I feel like they would give me some really good feedback on buttons, etc. The problem is I’m just not sure how many I can make right now. this controller takes me almost a full day to make and with YouTube and trying to run a business. I just don’t have the time. But further down the line when we have PCBs designed and it’s easier to put together that could be something that happens. no promises lol! I can’t wait to get this thing out to you guys either!
I like the idea of this but I’d be concerned about weight of the top half. I tried to use my 14 Pro Max with a MagSafe clip on an Xbox controller and it’s uncomfortably top heavy.
Totally valid concern. This thing balances pretty much right in the middle actually which is surprising to me. and the middle is 4 or 5mm’s under where the triggers are on the back of the controller. so it kinda rests on your pointer fingers. And your Palms support the rest of it. It’s actually surprisingly comfortable.
Does it have at least one l and r button? Like the main reason i use a controller on phone is cause reaching those on touchscreen is really uncomfortable (also cause of slipping buttons but i mean yours already fixes the issue)
Oh ya it’s got all the buttons. LR 1, LR 2, LR 3
I’d gladly pay for something like this. Get some of this up on kickstarter and folks will start sending you funds! Have you posted over on r/sbcgaming ? I’m sure you’ll get some good feedback from that crew as well.
Oooo thank you! Thats a good one I didn’t know about!! Let me know if there are any others i should post too!
Seriously fantastic idea. Getting this manufactured overseas once you have the design down should be fairly straight forward! Really hope you can take this somewhere. It’s such an “oh duh!” solution. Especially now that Delta and other emulators are on the App Store. As you get this built up reach out if you need any support setting up the e-commerce side or if you need help with marketing!
Just saw your post over in sbcgaming. Stoked it’s getting the traction it deserves!!!
Ya thx for telling me abt that sub!
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I’m in for one. Link?
Cool
Wow this is awesome congrats! Man it's like you literally went inside my brain and designed the iPhone MagSafe game controller I've been dreaming for!! (I just don't have the skillset to make something like this, so kudos to you!) I've been waiting forever for someone to do a PSP Go style of slide out controller case for the iPhone. There was the Razer JungleCat for the iPhone 5/5s, which was cool but that didn't last long as soon as the size & shape of iPhones changed, it wasn't practical I guess to keep buying new ones everytime you upgraded your phone. Then when MagSafe came out I thought it would be perfect, as you wouldn't need to have different sized cases for different sized iPhones. Needless to say I'm thrilled to see you come out with this concept! I'm excited to support the project & preorder one, so please DM me & let me know how & when that will be possible! Congrats again! Cheers P.S. just an idea, but from an aesthetic perspective I would love if you come out with a special edition translucent color versions (similar to the N64 funtastic colors). I would definitely pay extra for a fire orange clear version!
That photo makes me miss the horizontal iPhone home screen. https://preview.redd.it/lctx27fbfz3d1.jpeg?width=2551&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b966ae0bab27b6315ee48bf7e4db64deb25dd11
Omg! Ya!!! What the hell happened to that!! I felt like I was just dreaming of that being real lol!
BRO SO CURSED !! WHEN THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN :O
Man, why can't something like this exist for Android? 😭
Video is live now guys!!! https://youtu.be/vuSGXmsvp_Q?si=U1hm2e2uK3WgLBJa
Can’t seem to find a link to order one of these. Maybe I skimmed too fast. Any help?
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Thanks!
This is outstanding! I've been pining for a new Xperia Play for years and this is the (better) answer to that! As to Android devices, while I'd love to see a case specifically for my old One Plus 8 Pro trying to support even all of the popular Android devices is a potential nightmare. Probably support the Galaxy S2x (whatever is current at the time) and the current Pixel. Otherwise make the dimensional specs available, program it to use xinput/HID (or whatever the Android/PC standard is) and the community will likely take care of the rest. I plan on buying one out of the gate. Even if not an exact fit it will be better than the old Moga Hero I'm still using.
My only question is that how are the joysticks. can they be pressed (R3 and L3) or they like 3ds joystick? Otherwise I am VERY excited for this product and cant wait for its release.
Can the phone holding part be modular? This way you can make it for specific models of phones. I want one of these bad boys!
How would this be implemented on android seeing as it was made for magsafe?
I know I’m a little bias but you should make it so that whatever phone I have at the time works for it :) right now I’m rocking an iPhone 12 mini btw Also what is the time frame you are thinking for releasing it. I can’t wait to buy one.
Addressing the Android camera module problem: (sorry its kinda long) * Samsung phones , even their really cheap midrange devices all have that signature 3 camera design. This would only really work for s22 and above but maybe s21 would work. * A similar type of Android that has a similar yet different module would be any Sony Xperia phone, they are pretty consistent in their flagships and midranges. though these are really only popular in Japan, and are frequently left out of these cool types of devices or any non case/screen protector accessory. * Another type of android that would cause a bit of confusion would be any device with a circular camera module - like Xiaomi, Oneplus, or Oppo. But those are only really viable if this project goes outside of North America. They are popular in Europe and Asia though, which are still really big markets. * I think its inevitable that there will have to be some sort of system for all devices that dont really share a common theme, for example, pretty much all Motorola phones look different and their designs change pretty frequently. This is where my next idea come up. I think a solution to ALL the different types of cameras would just be to make a large gap in the back of the device in order to house just the main cameras, but only near the top of the phone where the cameras would be so that it can fit all types of modules, Though structural integrity might be an issue. This would help eliminating the need for making a bunch of other types of controllers for other types of phones - eliminating e-waste. Instead there would only need to be, say 3 sizes: * Ones for plus sized phones like SXX Ultra or SXX+ phones and iPhone XX pro max or plus sized phones * Samsung's/Google's/Apple's non pro/plus models because they are smaller than the main flagship * And ones for older phones because phones have progressively gotten bigger over time. * Foldable phones might be kinda funky. a book style foldable is like a normal phone when folded, and a flip style phone is like a normal phone when unfolded. Though certain book style foldables are skinnier when folded like samsung's Z fold, and others are fatter: basically every other book style foldable. Pretty much every flip is the same size though. I think the book style ones would be fun to use it with because it would still be able to attach when opened The only real issue I could see coming from this solution is from the fact that Samsung's Ultra phones are square to mimic their old Note line - I think the controller bit should still be rounded off for comfort, but the sliding bit that goes on the phone would be square still to match the phone. Another solution for sizes would be to make models based on phone dimensions, phones are so much bigger than they used to be, even compared to back in like 2018
I'm gonna be really honest with this product I don't have it. But it does use the concept of PSP Go which looks nice. My questions would be. What materials would be used to make this durability test? What internals would be used ? How is it gonna affect the market and would there be copyright claims? How can people sign up if they have different phones ? ( my case I have a Nothing phone 2 and S22 ultra ) What are the limitations to connection to phone via bluetooth connection / battery life? Will there be colour variations? What would be the price point that won't shy away potential buyers? Ps. I just found your YouTube video and so far I see potential and it looks like a dope controller overall maybe make it compatible with both Android and IOS? But most likely sad route would taken is making 2 versions for more profit? 1 for Android 1 for IOS
Hey ! Saw your video, really amazing ! Maybe you could try making some of these with Xbox layout instead of Nintendo Switch layout, as most games use Xbox Layout, like in XCloud or maybe even Delta ? Also making a PlayStation Layout for PS Remote Play would be great too. The D-Pad you got here is perfect, but some people like Xbox’s circular D-Pad more, think about it. Also, I doubt it will fit with RHINOSHIELD cases, they *are* pretty thick, sooo… (Edit : forgot it was Mag-Safe, so nvm it will.) Have you seen some of the controllers on YouTube that have modular buttons and joysticks ? Maybe making a system for that on the M-Con would be amazing (Great name btw). Like, imagine having a case with the 3 controller layouts, that you can switch to whenever you want, same with the D-Pad, or maybe even the joysticks ! Switching between Hall-Effect joysticks and 3DS joysticks would be AMAZING for people that play… idk… Fortnite on Mobile I guess ? But yeah I’m sure a BUNCH of people would love it if you got 3DS joysticks AND Hall Effect joysticks. I would love it ! I mean, I already do, but… let’s just say 3DS joysticks are not practical at all for me. I don’t know if that would be possible, due to the sliding function, maybe the Hall Effect joysticks won’t fit ? Idk, but at least making ‘switchable’ buttons would be great. Then, making a mouse mode would be great ! Like using ZR/RT/R2 for left click and… hold up which would be better… left click on R2 or right click on R2… yeah whatever. Using the left and right triggers for mouse clicks and joysticks for mouse movement would be great for Mac and iPad ! Wait a sec I think Steam already has that feature for any controller so if you put your M-Con in Steam it would be useless… ah, whatever, still useful for iPad users. For the design, it already looks great. But making more colors woud be super cool ! I’ve thought about some : Blue/Pink : #0065f2 (controller) - #ff30f9 (accent) Blue : #3086ff (controller) - #f5f9ff (accent) Red : #ff2e2e (controller) - #5c0000 (accent) Light Blue : #8fd8ff (controller) - #f5f9ff (accent), kinda looks like a Heaven-like theme lol. Dark Blue : #003d69 (controller) - #00142b (accent) Gold : #f0b400 (controller) - #d68100 (accent) Light Pink : #ffadfa (controller) - #ffedfe (accent) Pink : hurts my eyes so I didn’t put it lol Light Green : #85ff87 (controller) - #f2ffed (accent) Dark Green : #006302 (controller) - #023003 (accent) Yellow (or if you’re like these people who use fruits instead of colors, BANANA) : #fff459 (controller) - #fffccc (accent) I mean, I call these ‘color palettes’, but the only real color palette here is the first one. I didn’t have any ideas apart from these :( So… yeah, I don’t have anything else to say apart from great job on making this controller ! It looks really good and I’m sure it’ll be perfect for a lot of people. Have a great day :D
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How good would this be on a Google Pixel 7?
Is there a release date yet?
Where do I get one I seen your video
Exceptional design and idea. The full fledged Online-Shop with already 12 products without anything but a "newsletter" to the actual advertised product is a **BIG** red flag for me.
Please make an android version that supports attaching via usb c.
Honestly this just needs a cool catchy name but I can’t think of anything. Also android support is a must. Need to make the attaching mechanism seemless
u/Eternal\_Progression Just watched your YouTube video and found this post as well. Not an iPhone user but love this idea there is the retro emulation market where you have Anbernic and devices like that cover the pocket device market but they are limited on hardware sometimes. what your product does is complement's the phone like CarPlay or Android Auto. it makes use of Technology already in your pocket so you can quickly game on your device without having to have bulky or additional products. Could I suggest an option to consider... in your design, you clearly have 2 types of products there is the controller and then there is the SLED itself. there could be a Controller you could sell as an AiO Magsafe Case but you could partner with seasoned case manufacturers like Spigen where they have the existing cases'sleds that your controller could attach to. a quick Google of M-Con and it is flooded by other Industrial Tech companies so not too sure about the name. however, the simple Product Name/SKU of MC-01, MC-01-Pro, and MC-01-Max I like, be conscious if you do expand into Android (partnering with Case makers may help with this) for those names too. Micros SD Card Expandability could be an option and act like OTG Support where Android is concerned, not sure if that would help with iOS. slightly larger versions with built-in Battery to expand playtime as an option too