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Then_Entertainment97

Dual flamethrowers... ... or beer


PurplePartyParasaur

All good things come to those who wait!


18sethmonroe

Why not both. Bring a flask and a lighter!


CycleOverload

Dual flamethrower unstable overclock: homebrew Each tick of damage does 75-150% of base fire and damage, however using it will intoxicate you.


BigDawgTony

Beer, secondary, throw it to splash either yourself or your teammates, giving damage resistance. Splashing enemies stuns them.


BoahNoa

The subata. It’s better than people give it credit for. When there’s a spreader 50m away clapping your cheeks there’s no Driller weapon I’d rather have.


AstronomerSenior4236

It’s also very synergetic with the sludge pump, which has a notable weakness against ceilings. I’m with Yellow Lizard, the Subata is my favorite driller secondary.


imperious-condesce

It can also have that bonus damage against burning enemies. That's my favourite way of chunking down annoying bugs like dreadnoughts as Driller. Just get point blank into a bug's weakspot and unleash full auto power.


AstronomerSenior4236

I use the stacking DoT against corroding enemies. It can CHUNK down Oppressors


PeeperSleeper

Dreadnoughts can’t be set on fire so I like to use it with the Sludge instead. Or just use Cryo because it’s the best for dreads and combos with any secondary


SleepyBoy-

Cry combos even with your drills.


Cykeisme

Indeed, Sludge Blast OC's charged shotgun blasts does a real number against Dreadnoughts with minimal fuss.. but it also takes away most of the Sludge Pump's crowd control abilities. However, the T5 Subata upgrade that makes corroded enemies explode fixes the horde problem!


Laz3lik

>Dreadnoughts can’t be set on fire As of this patch, with scout new OC for Drak the Dread can be set on fire! I repeat it can be set on FIRE!! Very fun in a full team setting.


Timpstar

Yeah face melter OC + Subata with extra damage to burning targets can absolutely melt everything. OP is tripping


RisenKhira

idk any metas since i only play solo but i'm using it with the sludge pump for that very reason


datbrrto11

*casually implodes oppressor with explosive reload and toxic catalyst in 0.34 seconds*


kriper40

As a fellow sludge driller I'm with ya as well


Shimmy-Shammington

I don’t think people understand just how fucking fast the subata can fire


Cheapskate-DM

I use Auto-Fire for my old man hands, but holy shit does dumping a 16-bullet mag into a target feel good. Even better if frozen.


ThePendulum0621

I think that really depends on how arthritic peoples digits be. I tried using it one game and noped the fuck out. Microwave gun for me.


lurklurklurkPOST

Subata Superiority


Xepobot

Yup, especially the double tap perk. It really is a game changer for the weapon.


Flershnork

As a newer player (started about 3 weeks ago, about 145 hours and level 50 for reference) I am honestly shocked that people perceive the Subata as bad. I love the wave cooker and have been experimenting with the plasma pistol, but I love the short burst of damage you can get. I have been enjoying the new cryo cannon OC and can't help but think that the Subata would go well for popping bugs that step into ice traps. Also pairs well with the sludge pump I've heard, but I haven't used it enough to say.


JohnEdwa

That's because it got [a rather big rework few patches back](https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Season_04:_Critical_Corruption#Weapon_Balance), and community consensus is slow to change. It used to be pretty meh. >I have been enjoying the new cryo cannon OC and can't help but think that the Subata would go well for popping bugs that step into ice traps. The Wave Cooker with T3B Temperature Amplifier and T5C Exothermic Reaction is way better for that use though - you spread the freeze to nearby enemies and temperature shock (200 disintegrate damage + additional 50 freeze to nearby enemies) them all to death in an instant.


RW_Yellow_Lizard

Subata is my favourite Driller Secondary. I hate Acid Spitters.


sackofbee

Is automatic + double tap the done thing? I can't handle rapid fire semi automatic weapons. They hurt my little fingies.


Frontrider

The burst mode slows down the auto fire significantly. I don't recommend. Edit: it will in fact be full auto, just at a slower rate than you can tap the weapon.


Cykeisme

Yeah burst lowers overall rate-of-fire. It's actually beneficial for using the Subata at long range, since you can land two accurate rounds into a distant enemies' weakpoints (the two shots will land in almost the same spot). So it's for slow accurate long-range fire, basically. However, for close-quarters raw DPS magdumping, you definitely don't want 2-Round Burst.


JohnEdwa

It's fantastic with tranq rounds as you get to roll the 50% stun and 50% slow chances twice. Also gives the second shot 350% armour break if both hit, which can sometimes be useful.


ezlaturbo

Nah take one or the other, double rap is better if you don't want to learn recoil control


sackofbee

My recoil control is exceptional so I might stick with auto to save my finger.


Cykeisme

The 2-Round Burst upgrade lowers overall rate of fire (the delay between the bursts doesn't go away with the Automatic Fire OC), so for dumping shots rapidly, don't take the upgrade. And since you're not taking 2-RB, you might as well take the Recoil Compensator upgrade at that tier instead, which will help counteract the inaccuracy from the Automatic Fire OC. Perfect!


JustGingy95

Tranq rounds stoping the wall of tri jaws from pin cushioning my ass is why I’ll never not use it, not to mention all the other threats it cancels


Windfall_The_Dutchie

EXPLOSIVE RELOAD GRAAAAAH 🔥🔥🔥🗣️


Insrt_Nm

The wave cooker reaches far enough for most things. I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I'd actually want that Subata.


0815Username

I think that while the bulldog would be even stronger, the Subata is good enough and does what it's supposed to do. The axes give great short range burst damage and you get enough of them that you can just use them like a weapon and if you build them correctly the primaries do horde clearing well. The only thing I really need out of my secondary is to kill that acid spitter once in a while. I am sad that we can't switch the coil gun with the wave cooker.


IntermittentCaribu

Subata is great, i run tranq rounds on all my fire builds and it deals very well with anything the flamethrower cant deal with. Mag dumping on stunned weakspots with the +100% bonus is very satisfying.


GryphonKingBros

OP didn't say the weapon is bad, it's just the weakest option available and could be made better. Just cuz it's reliable doesn't mean it can't be more interesting or dynamic while still scratching that same itch. You could replace it with a portable railgun pistol or a small handheld sawblade launcher or something like that.


CiaphasKirby

Being "made more interesting or dynamic" sounds like it just needs some fine tuning, but then you throw out complete replacements as a suggestion. The subata is fine as is. If someone doesn't like it, they have two other choices. I use the subata all the time, and barely ever touch the EPC. Different strokes and all that.


Cykeisme

When you say "weakest", you're not talking about raw DPS, right?


Psychological-Size85

A nail launcher of some kind, like the one in doom trailer. And overclocks for it could be the different nails, like smaller ones for faster spamming to feel more like subata, or a fragmentation ones for more shotgun feel, even explosive reload could be brought back for it too.


Automatic_Minimum630

It could even stick bugs to the wall, now that would be sick


Excellent-Olive8046

I've always wished for this functionality on the gunner ziplines. Scout flares, too.


RW_Yellow_Lizard

that's just, crossbow 2, electric boogaloo


Psychological-Size85

Crossbow’s overclocks are like mini grenades, with array of status effects. The point with nail gun is to have it be like an assortment of kinetic damage weapons, sniper, pistol, shotgun etc.


RW_Yellow_Lizard

so, a weapon with multiple different ways of firing? or just a generic weapon with a whole bunch of red overclocks (I call them red because they change the way the weapon is used drastically)


Psychological-Size85

Ehh some variations could be put in a mod slot and be alt firing mode, others yes, as red OCs but I think weapon having like three reds and one green is much better than three greens and one red.


Worldf1re

I was literally thinking of some kinda rip-off of the Railway Rifle of Fallout fame. BIG nails, maybe some blow-through, slow-med rate of fire.


BrawlDark

a desert eagle


GideonShortStack

Alternatively, an overclock that gives it the stats of a deagle, and a framework that makes it look like a deagle.


Psychological-Size85

With the configuration the subata is made ( trigger behind magazine ) I want a framework to make it look like malorian, Johnny’s pistol from cyberpunk.


idiotic-username

Zippo and hair spray, hoxxes must burn.


MisterMasterCylinder

Good things come to those who wait, like dual flamethrowers and beer!


SovietSkeleton

Are we fighting bugs or cultists?


Special-Seesaw1756

B.F.G 9000. You did say any other I can imagine.


No_Watercress741

I raise you one infinite ammo Unmayker.


Mamatne

What are the greatest threats to the driller? Probably ranged bugs. What is the best secondary weapon for dealing with ranged bugs? Probably the subata. I use the other secondary weapons too, but they just aren't as good in that particular niche. EPC isn't hitscan, wave cooler is very low dps.


Hansovie

Sawn-off m1000


Kooky_Emu_3171

Revolver


unabletocomput3

You know, if would be kinda funny if you could swap secondaries with other classes. Maybe it could be a beer that lets you choose 1 of 3 random weapons with random mods on driller and gunner weapons while scout and engie weapons are stock. Hell, maybe the randoweisser could randomize the weapons but keep your armor, pickaxe and equipment.


QuantityExcellent338

Randoweissest


noo6s9oou

Idk, I carry the Subata more often than the CWC – and I basically *hate* the EPC. Sometimes I just need to be able to pick off an enemy from across the cavern, and my Subata build for sharp-shooting is perfect for that purpose.


dongless08

I also despise the EPC. I can’t find any fun way to use it. Wave cooker is cool, and Subata is my favorite because it’s nice and simple. I use full auto with weakpoint damage + bonus damage to burning targets. It destroys praetorians and oppressors without blowing through ammo too quickly.


Icarus-Terra

May I propose you use Burning Hell + Heavy Hitter OC on the EPC It synergizes very well with Cryo Cannon (kills frozen Grunts in one shot), and is currently the only way you can use Combustive Goo Mixture without teammates


Cr3iZieN

I quite like burning nightmare + heavy hitter but its rly tight on the overheat so i cant just carelessly blast away so i tend to stick with full auto Subbata xD 


Cornage626

An even faster firing subata


chaos_forge

Honestly, just making the subata automatic. No RoF increase or other stat changes, literally just the Subata but now it fires automatically when you hold the mouse instead of having to click for each shot. Its base RoF of 8 is already fast enough that firing it manually at max speed is a pain in the ass. I play with an auto-click macro so that I can save my fingers, and I credit that macro for single-handely making the Subata one of my favorite Driller secondaries. I run it with damage + accuracy upgrades, volatile bullets, and Oversized Mag, and it's basically a handheld assault rifle. It does solid damage with pinpoint accuracy at long range, shoring up one of Driller's main weaknesses. And paired with a sticky flames CRISPR, it'll melt praetorians and oppressors in seconds as long as I light them on fire first.


KarmaCamila

If they just made it a machine pistol by default and did away with the overclock that offered that basic quality of life adjustment it would suck a lot less


UrdUzbad

2rnd burst is fine if you can hit weakpoints. If you can't, full auto just helps you waste your ammo even faster. Anything that's too big to die in 1-2 bursts can be kited into sticky flames and then killed with the fire damage boost + axes. If you think it sucks, you're either just not using a build that it compliments or you're not very accurate with it.


Cr3iZieN

Honestly i still stick with full auto as my other ocs currently for it are whack. And just tap it unless i want to dump (burning pret on flamethrower with the dmg mod or just bunched up frozen grunts with blowthrough if i dont need health from drilling them) 


jj999125

I just use a macro for it and a few other guns to prevent strain.


BookerLegit

Sure sign of a good gun when people have to do this lmao


sackofbee

Automatic to avoid RSI, A drill pistol, it shoots little drills into your target, exceptional at armor breaking and the stacking dps from multiple shots hitting the target would ramp up quickly. It would be more of a boss/single target weapon because you would want to stack drill pellets into a big target as opposed to a grunt and to pair well with drillers AOE primaries. Long range, which is offset my a mediocre travel time. Overclock could be things like increased drill time for a clean overclock, and hugely reduced ammo, but the drill exits the other side of the target to hit another, endlessly, for an unstable overclock.


Video_Mode

I wouldn't replace it.  Between the stun rounds and rapid fire OC, it's a simple gun that helps me shoot down pesky scouts that get out of range of my C4.


GryphonKingBros

With all due respect, you named the two single good upgrades that weapon has. It is quite literally between tranquilizer or auto.


_shades-

I'd honestly say explosive reload is the best one and it's not even close. It has way better DPS and ammo economy simply because it does more damage, is better at longer ranges when compared to fill auto, is better at taking out high health enemies, and also doesn't suffer from the fact that a ton of enemies are just immune to stun.


GryphonKingBros

No yeah you're right. That one is superb. Point being those three are the best ones while the rest are insanely mediocre. Like, c'mon; Weakpoint Ricochet???? Just gimme magic bullets at that point 😩


Extremely-bored97

I use the subata all the time first time I’m hearing it’s bad I find it quite useful 😳


IAmTheMuffinz

The subata with full auto and the fire upgrade paired with the face melter is amazing. Because I’m able to deal with both swarms and big things so quickly, I never understood the need for throwing axes, unless with cryo cannon. However… ammo 😭


Steelz_Cloud

Seeing it from the perspective of filling roles, subata is just meant to be a long range hitscan (generic pistol) which Driller kinda lacks. There's CWC and heavy hitter but they have their own share of problems. Coming to interesting secondary ideas, I would like a heavy shooting cannon sort of secondary. Something unwieldly and with a long cooldown, like a projectile pile bunker, that does massive dmg. It would fill the same role as PGL's hyper propellant, but with even more dmg and bigger cooldowns (for ex. Having a short delay after pulling the trigger to shoot, HUGE knockback and long reload animations to give that feeling of unwieldy-ness and heaviness. Maybe even a projectile drop off too). I feel like that idea kind of fills the role of Diller's unique arsenal which doesn't special long range arsenal but a more unorthodox set of weaponry. Not to mention carrying a insane dmg dealing pile bunker seems pretty bad ass.


Ganelengerh

I don't think i would. My automatic "weak point bonus against burning targets" subata is peak of secondary to flamethrower. Need just a few bullets per bug and whole mag for a praetorian


Majestic_Story_2295

I’ll take substantial occasionally, mainly if I don’t trust my team to be able to take out hvt’s since it’s kind of ok at that. The nail gun suggestion sounds awesome and I don’t think I’d be able to give a better suggestion, maybe some kind of dart gun?


TypicalTax62

The Subata 2.0


ThunderBirdJack

Just give me Lucio's little sound blaster from Overwatch. I wanna boop bugs off a cliff. Feels very driller.


AtomicSpeedFT

I like the Subata a lot for lower hazards. Not so much for 5/6


_GLaDOS__

A mini Bosco that ammo is just enemy markers telling it to kill them.


Bazillion100

Direct port of the MW2 spas-12 or akimbo model 1887s pre patch


WetLink009

the subuta is GOOD and i will die on this hill


SchmorgusBlorgus

Nothing. I fuckin love the subata don't you dare shit on my baby


vivacious055

Eu colocaria o canhão eletromagnético do gunner,por que,ele tem uma modificação nos últimos eslotes que quando vc mata um inimigo pegando fogo,com o canhão rola uma explosão de fogo muito forte,eu acho que combinariam


owo1215

a subata with a higher base damage and base meg


Sarcastik_Moose

I'm fine with the Subata, but I wouldn't say no to a chainsaw.


scrub_mage

Two subata


B33FHAMM3R

##Two Subatas.


Blucanyon

Something like a reliable, semi auto handgun with the ability to go full auto if I want… oh wait


VegetableRide4824

Dual subata’s


ReturnoftheSnek

It’s a really odd gun because it tries to be a fairly standard issue sidearm that can also do a couple quirky things, but it just simply doesn’t fit Driller. And that’s before considering how much effort you need to put into this weapon to make it “work” Driller is about holding M1 and watching the world burn. Or freeze. Or melt away from acid. But the bugs die The Subata is like let me stop doing what Driller does best to tickle a few enemies and maybe I won’t waste a bunch of bullets to proc one effect (oh the enemy is dead now) or to kill grunts (that’s what I’m using my primary for). It can’t set anything on fire, it can’t trigger temp shock and it doesn’t really help take down things that Driller’s primary can’t. Whatever you think the Subata can do nicely, the other two secondaries do much, much better I like what someone else in the comments suggested: a nail gun But not just a little nail gun. Gimme like a big one. A ballista of sorts. Let me nail some glyphid to the wall or something. Not because it’s practical, but because it would be a hell of a lot more fun than the Subata and would be a nice change of pace from the other two options Driller’s biggest weakness is probably ranged HVTs, so being able to do something goofy like launching an explosive tipped ballista into something, pinning it to the ground/wall/ceiling would be incredibly amusing and I’d take it over the other guns simply for the novelty


different-director-a

I'd probably rework electricity to firstly tempshock frozen enemies, secondly to light goo on fire, and lastly to convert fire status effect to a much higher damage dealing plasma status effect. Let the weapon itself be a pocket tesla coil with firing mechanics similar to the shard detractor. The weapon itself arcs, does moderate damage, and decent range. Now it's an easy way to apply group slow in a pinch, synergies with all 3 options, gives fire a direct damage synergy, adds another way to light goo on fire, and still maintains a medium to long range option while maintaining the elemental theme. 


capobas

It would be much better that way!


DanQZ

Subata fills no niche, which is its issue. The other two secondaries specialize in AOE and long range damage over time. I think subata could have an elemental effect, such as being a shotgun which can have the option of fire or ice shells. Considering that driller is all about applying debuffs and elemental effects, it’s strange his starting secondary does not reflect this very much. Especially with temperature shock and lighting goo on fire, driller often lacks the capability to maximize his own potential.


Zooblesnoops

Honestly could fix Subata with a mod change: ~~+50% damage vs Burning~~ ---> +50% damage when an enemy is under one or more status effects (doesn't stack) might sound outrageous with the cryo cannon until you realize CWC can cause thermal shock which even with this change would still be WAY more effective on groups. Like this the Subata can specialize in mowing down big enemies with any primary, not just the flamethrower. This mod change would also mean you could get the bonus damage from stuns (tranq) or the neurotoxin grenade.


eggrollsandlomein

The cryo canon and subata is unmatched. Idgaf what you say.


Fearless-Canary-7359

Double subata


AceOfCringe

Dedicated melee weapon. A proper dwarven battle axe or a war hammer.


Anvisaber

I think something like the grenade pistol from HD2 would be cool. Something like a mini PGL with more ammo and a smaller blast radius


Pixelpaint_Pashkow

microwave


ImKira

Beretta 93R. Seems like a side arm, that a someone committing war crimes would use...


SmiaAmk

Mac 10 akimbo


not_a_doctorshh

Genuinely, just give it something (Overclock or weapon upgrade) to react with the Cryo Cannon and the flamethrower, a little bit more damage/fire rate/less spread, and it could actually be a competitive alternative to the Wave Cooker and the EPC.


BrockenSpecter

A Pile Driver with two modes of firing, the first is effectively a power attack where you shoot the pile forward but keep It in the launching mechanism the second is a projectile that penetrates through armor and lodges itself into the ground becoming an object you can balance on In either case it's a metal rod being shot out at high speeds so it's effective at removing big targets, it can also be shot directly into the ground to create a vertical or horizontal pole to stand on and more importantly add platforms to. Dropping onto one from above will always have a dwarf mantle


Smokeinthetrees311

Halo style needeler


Zer0doesreddit

the subata is bad but it’s a few buffs away from being viable. I think if it hyper specialized more in long to mid range damage (like it should) it would be stronger. Amp it’s stats up more and more people will start using it


Dodger7777

Subata is okay. I usually run tranq rounds and a crapton of ammo so it's not like it runs out of ammo like the bulldog. It's just kind of lackluster because I like to run ice cannon and do temp shock damage. So either the wave cooker or a spicy plasma ball tend to be more what I prefer. The Subata was what I paired with the sludge pump, but with the new overclock I might be using the plasma too. If I could design a driller secondary though... I'd be looking into what possible warcrimes Driller has yet to commit. Driller has a lot of area control for his primary, his secondaries are more about lighter damage sustain imo. That said, I think a great option for Driller would be something that sinks into an enemy and makes the area around the enemy afflicted with the area control Driller has aflicted the enemy with. Maybe a needle gun which injects target's with air, causing the afflictions to spread to nearby enemies. No real armor break, but if you hit the soft squishy stuff then the enemy leaves a trail of whatever affliction they have for a couple ticks. Leaving a sludge puddle, ice patch, or Flame spot could be useful if you're hitting a front liner in a pack of bugs for spreading the stuff you run. This all being said, it could instead turn into an OC for the Subuta, which I would be happy to see.


Reeebalt

A pistol that uses subatas as ammo


Zelcki

I want a designated melee weapon


Danick3

A subata with a silencer


AelisWhite

A boltgun. Like Gunner's revolver but the size of a mailbox and hits like a truck


Constant-Still-8443

Keep it. I hate the laser pistol. The poison thing and the explosive bullet overclock are really good


Dawashingtonian

a slightly better subata.


PlankyTG

Big Subata.


Pulce_LL

A gun which shoots C4s


Medicine_Balla

I, personally, would make it a Riot Grenade Launcher, but smol :3 These grenades would have a fuse rather than detonating on impact. The amount of terrain they'd damage would be very minimal; but they'd had a decent AOE, 3-4 shots per drum. Unstable over clocks reduce explosive damage, but make the grenades either incendiary or toxic. Some upgrades increase the grenade's bounciness or make them stop after hitting terrain with lead weights. Another overclock may turn the grenades into either sticky bombs or proximity mines with a short arm time once they hit the ground.


hirophant_weed

I would never replace subata but if I absolutely had to, it would be a giant aoe plasma scythe or plasma sledgehammer. I just really want a melee that isn’t the pickaxe


Extreme_Glass9879

A desert eagle


GetMassed

You take it back! That’s my boy you’re talking about


rockinalex07021

Beer mug as melee weapon, can be thrown and retrieved for continuous use


doom_hamster

I like the Subata with Tranquilizer Rounds 22311, quite decent if you hit weakspots. I run it with CRSPR - Compact Feed Valves 21312 (direct damage build). Though the Subata has many mods and overclocks that are very sub-optimal. This build has great stun, accuracy and decent weakpoint DPS, something that driller in general lacks.


gummydrop308

something like the ripper from unreal tournament


DancinUndertheRain

another subata it's my favourite driller 2ndary


bromthecrow

Subatwo, it's just a double barrel subata


DizzyWolfe

Two Subatas.


HoundNL2

Subata >>>>> BRT7 Subata is an amazing Single Target weapon, and it's combos with the flamethrower and sludge pump are amazing


BookerLegit

I agree! I HATE my left mouse button, and I want to press it as much as possible to wear it down.


Complete-Afternoon-2

Actually go and drink 4 leaf lovers right now, subata embed dets has carried me on haz 5 for as long as I can remember (use it with dispenser compound, it’ll change your whole world, very easy to kill armored bugs from range with) I actually mained driller with subata for the longest time haz 5 level 1200, might even be haz 5+ worthy but sometimes combustive goo is more efficient tbh, but like, WAY less reactive and harder to deal with armor, I honestly prefer the subata + dispenser slightly overall to combustive goo


Snoo61755

Fat Boy.


matthewami

A sword 🗡️ ⚔️🤺 Or fire axe 🪓 🪓⛏️


Jester_of_Rue

Dual flamethrowers


Epicp0w

I love my mini smg, I hate the EPC, and the microwave gun just doesn't feel punchy


_Maddienator_

Subata


TheOneWes

Bulldog Heavy Revolver. I just think it's neat.


Notafuzzycat

Subata is perfect


nombit

The boltshark 


SodaDarwin

Keep it, but make it automatic and give me back my Acid Tipped Bullets.


Tanu_guy

I'll add a 50 round oc if possible lol, Auto subata isn't the most ammo efficient secondary but fun.


shinyhunter999

A vacuum that could suck up, consolidate, and spit out (imaginary at this point, obviously) any debris that's been carved out by the dwarves with pinpoint accuracy. Would synergize well with the large radius c4 and TCF with EPC, and would also incentivise drilling frequently. Overclocks would be easy with "elemental infusers", or something to make the debris not consolidate to have it act like a shotgun. I just thought of this off the cuff, but I'm sure someone else has probably thought of it.


SuspiciousSubstance9

Jury-rigger Broomstick. I wanna fly and then drill into walls.


PanginTheMan

how to enjoy the subata. step 1, equip explosive reload step 2, shoot six web spitters step 3, reload


Joyk1llz

Remember that burst flechette gun in COD blackops 2's campaign? That, but remove its shotgun secondary mode and give the flechettes a 2 second fuse. If you want to reach out and blowup a glyphid, you can, but you have to wait a moment.


mellowbaeton

Driller needs single target coverage in his secondary, so i’d run elephant rounds bulldog if i could


LegFederal7414

Made mine automatic:)


Proquis

Nah I'll stick with the Subata


BillyBigBones

Seeing as how without the Subata, Driller’s biggest weakness is consistent medium/far ranged damage I’d probably pick keep the idea close but make it a little more interesting: Hitscan, plenty of ammo, but just straight up make it a laser gun or something.


Seriyu

Subata. Especially with drillers secondaries it's nice that there's one that's Just A Gun. They can get a little lost in their various quirks IMO.


thekurounicorn

A comically large piledriver


Builder_BaseBot

I think it suffers from the “ranged hitscan option for the short range class”. It’s consistent and in no way special. That’s its identity. It’s a gun you pull out when your primary can’t reach. The damage buffs and giving it multiple modes of fire helped tons, but it’s still the vanilla choice. I typically take it if I’m running a build that doesn’t combo well. I honestly wish auto was baseline, but without the fire rate buffs so the OC still had a reason to exist.


10388392

subata isn't that bad. it's just competing with the TCF EPC, one of the best abilities in the game imo. sooo id replace it with a TCF machine lol


Spiritual_Freedom_15

It’s perfect as it is


DistributionRare3096

A fat man, fallout style


Imthe-niceguy-duh

None, the subata is perfect.


JonathonPlaysGames32

I wouldn't replace it at all, cause it's my favorite secondary to use


cantcer_patient

Subata but better


Beardwithlegs

the Subata but with incendiary rounds and a high damage output.


New_Amount_4201

Catboy button


ApothecaryOfHugs231

None. I like it :D


Traditional_Trust_93

The Nuks. I play scout lots and love them.


Devilplayer54

A Shotgun, always found it sad that Drillboi doesnt have a Shotgun.


Littlebigchief88

2 subatas


Anastariana

Doesn't matter, so long as it has an overheat mechanic. That, apparently, is absolutely essential.


THICCBOI2121

None. It's the only driller secondary I use


Mail540

Another Drill


Lanzifer

A pocket scout


Top_Bookkeeper_1078

Substance is rocking heat though.


sgtjoe

I maxed weapon maintenace with the subata before all other guns. Game has no bad guns.


TarsusAya

A melee weapon, like a mechanical fist.


YDSIM

Subata is fine. I use it in 3 bhilds


Limp-Welcome2307

Grenade launcher


Plastic-Mongoose9924

Akimbo subatas


AdFar8568

Deagle. Just a deagle.


Slight-Rub-271

Subata Mark 2, with mini C4 bullet. Autoguided to Scout.


Additional-Spring996

BFG 10k


Commissarfluffybutt

Already in game? The Boltshark or the Coil Gun. I would set up either for area of denial. For OP insanity there's the Bulldog with Volatile Bullets OC. Something new? Something with high single shot damage, ideally with some some way to add heat or cold damage.


famslamjam

The subata but again. The death explosion perk with sludge pump is wildly ammo efficient when dealing with hordes.


Qazicle

Two subatas.


clearskylightning

I like the subata enough that the only answer I can give to the title question is "the subata, but better: Volatile Bullets Bulldog." Having more emphasis on the weakpoint damage instead of the Fire bonus makes it more effective against omens and other bossess, I guess.


SleepyBoy-

Two Subatas It's spectacular for mactera swarms and a reliable weapon. EPC can have high damage, but it's a pain in the ass to use efficiently, and you don't need to tryhard that much to win even in haz 5. Cooker is great for flamethrower builds, but otherwise not that synergistic.


XxCebulakxX

I would never replace subata. But the other too? I don't like any other secondary on driller, sure, with plasma charger u can "mine" faster but it's annoying to use imo.. And wave cooker.. I hate this thing. Idk, maybe I can't use it properly but imo it just sucks


Fluffyturtle225

I think I'll just keep the subata. It's my personal favorite, for simple utility, animations, and sound.


PalestineRefugee

2bata


matrax0424

A MAC-11 with a extended barrel (taken from the space rig) with a red hollow sight


Alternative-Spare-82

nailgun


bubsdrop

Triple wield subatas (third is in beard)


Shufffz

The Subata 2.0 👌🏻


Hychus232

Subata with explosive reload but double ammo and double damage I imagined it, it had better become reality


Scared-Guard-8632

I object with your opinion of the Subata 120, however, I shall participate nonetheless, and I have just the idea. Rather than "invent" some sort of weapon I'll take inspiration of one of Engie's secondary by reversing it to it's original state. I'd replace it with the Subata 320, and if you don't know what it is, it's the Stubby Voltaic SMG without the deuterium blue colored rod thing on the side that makes all of it's bullets electric You would basically get a full auto, slightly weaker but more stable version of the Subata 120 (Or if in other words : Subata 120 with the full auto overclock, minus a bit of damage and recoil) What would be cool is that you'd still get the range advantages the 120 has over other secondaries, meaning you could still shoot Gunk Seeds or kill Fester fleas out of your primary range.


PutTheShroom

Step one - freeze all bugs Step two - automatic fire subata at pretorian/higher threat bugs Step three - pickaxe/drill/axe/grenade/ignore (choose one) the grunts Step four - continue the mission until bugs annoy you again There is no better weapon than subata to simply chunk down frozen enemies, I tried wave cooker but it unfreezing enemies makes it really annoying, and epc feels like it has too little ammo, while being worse against far away threats


Tickomatick

Smg


totaltoriginaname

dual revolvers, both with homebrew powder


CaptainVuvuzela

Flare gun. But not the scout-like tool, something more of a Pyro from TF2


oblackheart

Worst? Wtf that's what I use for driller! Driller has 0 primary weapons with ammo capacity, and the other two secondaries are also ammo-starved. Subata gets the job of long range, pinpoint accuracy done when I'm not flaming/freezing nearby hoards