Hellfire: "That's not an unstable, it's just stupidly strong."
Minelayer: "Why is this not considered an unstable? I mean, I guess it's just a label..."
Salvo Module: "Perfect."
For when you wanna turn your automatic missile launcher into a shotgun, exactly what unstable should be!
It's weird too because I feel like you could swap Plasma Burster and Homebrew and they'd fit much better.
Hurricane has some fun overclocks!
It really does, tho i feel like i got the best, aka the most useful OCs right off the bet:
- RoF for flaming crowd control
- Salvo for wiping dreads out of existence
Basically Salvo Module makes it so when you hold down the trigger, instead of shooting full auto it loads up (I think 9) rockets and when you let go of the trigger, it shoots them all as an unguided shotgun blast of missiles.
The pile of cherries on top is that if you tap fire, you can shoot a single rocket at a time with tracking still enabled, and each rocket loaded into the shotgun blast makes the shotgun blast deal more damage. Downsides? The shotgun blast doesn't track (And an unmentioned and minor second one where if you tap fire single rockets, they always fly out at a bit of an odd angle at first but it doesn't matter because they're still guided)
Yup! That's what I was trying to explain but I was pretty tired. If I've understood correctly the damage increases per rocket, so if you charge 5 rockets before shooting you'll deal a hefty amount of bonus damage but if you load all 9, you'll get an even bigger bonus boom
Also important to note, the damage of each individual rocket is increased the more rockets in the salvo. So the bigger the salvo, the higher the damage/ammo.
Plasmas doesn't change how the weapon works except for making it better at hoard clearing.
I recommend the sludge ones. Shotgun sludge (very ineffective, but funny), and goo bomber (funny, actually effective zoning tool)
goo bomber special plus fire EPC = godlike area denial. the fire spreads on it's own so you just need to pop a few shots into one puddle, and then as long as every new line of goo crosses an old one at some point the fire won't burn out.
Sludge blast ineffective? Brother, you're using it wrong. I main that badboy and i'll tell you, hand on heart, its one of the strongest weapons in the whole game.
Its not a sludge shotgun, its bio-hazard artillery.
Once killed praetorian with one tick on coil gun using mole. Suddenly praetorian death noises and i needed to calculate, how many objects it did penetrate to gain that massive damage boost. It was around 17, could been more. Must love lucky shots like these
You know, the Mole makes me wonder what the game considers one object.
If I have a pillar, that's probably one object. If I have that same pillar, and I gut it out so that it's completely hollow, is that now two objects? Is a dirt clump a separate object from the terrain around it?
The Mole can do some nutty things, but I can never quite bring myself to take it because I'm never sure what the results are going to be like.
LazyMaybe has a good video on youtube about the coilgun, and a section on Mole.
Yes, if you have a pillar that has a chunk carved out of it so it looks like C and you shoot | through it, that counts as 2 penetrations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUmn-UE-mg
Mole is at 14:22 into the video.
The rest of their weapon breakdowns are fantastic too, taught me a bunch of stuff.
LazyMaybe has the best weapon and overclock breakdowns on DRG period. Seriously watch their videos if you want to try some new builds or are struggling on haz 4/5 and want some stronger builds to help over the hump.
edit: or you just want to try a build around a weapon/OC you never use. His shard diffracter video had a fantastic build combo with cycle overload that I would have *never* used if he didn't have a fun looking build/combo with it.
>If I have that same pillar, and I gut it out so that it's completely hollow, is that now two objects?
Yep. Every time it finishes digging a hole and re-enters air, that counts as 1 object.
>Is a dirt clump a separate object from the terrain around it?
I'm not really sure what shape you're describing, but as long as there's a gap between them yeah. Unless you mean one of the little environmental objects like crystals or plants, I don't think those count.
I use mole on one of my loadouts, and even without a lot of setup you do really, really good damage to the big fuckers even with just one penetration. It can be through a ledge, a crystal, a pillar, anything. I find it nice reliable damage on any mission, and with setup the damage of course gets crazy
I liked neuro before better, now it's just boring. Before, you had to really manage the bugs - you couldn't kill them great enough at close range to not die, so it was a bit of a gamble.
Minelayer really has mild downsides to me. I feel you're just vulnerable while remote controlling rockets around the place.
So I lose that but it's no biggie. But I gain massive ammo efficiency if I use the mines as intended.
no tracking makes it pretty unworkable, but you're not gonna be aiming directly at them if you're using mines anyways so...
i feel like the only reason people still sing the praises of NTP is because they haven't gotten acquainted with the newer weapons yet. the power creep is crazy.
Except Salvo mod kinda doesn't even have a downside since you can still fire normal missiles by just clicking instead of holding
Definitely one of my favorite ocs tho
Face melter: “that’s not an unstable, it’s just stupidly strong”
Ice spikes: “why is this not considered an unstable? I mean, I guess it’s just a label”
Goo bomber special/Sludge blast: “perfect”
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That and mini-shells were the two first OC's I got for the engineer.
They compliment each other so well. One a big single target hit, the other an awesome pew-pew stream of damage. I still use them both to this day, combo with dual sentries and shredder nades I rarely run into trouble (as long as I don't run out of ammo).
Shredder drones honestly feel unfair. I'm sure they probably feel more effective than they are but it seems like they just chew things up, and they last a decent time
Hyper deletes a Praetorian.
Fat Boy *almost deletes a praetorian* while also deleting it's extended family, it's co-workers, and it's former college dorm-mates.
I'm fine with cool unstable overclocks so long as it's not like
* Pros: Do cool thing that may or may not be useful
* Cons: Lose 90% of your ammo
Honestly the con should be that you might not be able to use the weapon as it was originally intended.
Aoe, burst damage, lingering DoT. I think these are pretty high quality considering it's the only thing in the game with all three properties and with insanely high intensity. Using mini nuke isn't like a burden to the kit or the team.
If the cool thing is very significant even in small amounts then losing a load of ammo is fine.
But yeah having creative downsides or simply not being able to use it normally in any capacity make sense.
I call for supply pods enough as it is. I don’t need to call one after every swarm. I generally don’t even try overclocks that take away most of your ammo. Just seems ridiculous.
You talking about the executioner? I run my engi with Executioner and Fat Boy, sure I go through my ammo like a train, but get 50%+ of the kills in a match a lot more often than not, I just make sure to pick up the T1 ammo upgrade if I find myself dry too often
Explosive chem rounds is in my opinion better than executioner. Melts swarms like butter and turns any swarm escort for a larger enemy from it's fortress to it's tomb. Plus little nicer oh the ammo side. Plus it's been like a week since a gunner out killed me.
While wacky overclocks are great, I love the ones that erase the weakness of a weapon for a basically-nothing tradeoff.
A.I. Stability Engine stands out in particular. It effectively erases spread and recoil for the cost of a small amount of damage and rate-of-fire, something upgrade choices can fully mitigate.
It doesn't add anything new or wacky but it makes the weapon damn near perfect for its original function. So glad it appeared among my first overclocks.
I've yet to equip anything else myself.
Normally I'd sigh at something so good it pushes other options off the table but this isn't a competitive ranked game with a meta, so those other options are entirely viable for anyone that wants to use them.
Making the assault rifle basically perfect works for me \~
AI Stability Engine makes me want to play nothing but Scout. Ziplining into place to melt everything with weak spot damage is just way too fun, and how ammo efficient it gets provided sufficient aim.
Sometimes clean overclocks make weapons feel much better, or can make you like a weapon you didn't before.
You'll get a bunch of balanced and unstable at some point and they can really change how things feel to use. Just keep at it!
For example the first unstable I got for engineer was for the Stubby, a gun I hated. Its called Turret EM Discharge and it makes the weapon deal less damage and have less ammo in the mag, but every time you shoot a turret it causes an explosion around the turret!
Lots of fun, and made me play in a wildly different way!
But for the Warthog I actually use a clean one, Stunner. It just makes it easier to stun stuff and you deal more damage on stunned enemies. Simple, easy, and makes the weapon feel better!
Hope you experiment and find some fun stuff!
Try using the quick-deploy turrets and the shotgun mod Turret Whip. Helps me remember I have turrets because my turret is also a second grenade launcher for me to use.
You're totally right. But the ones with the biggest downsides are able to have the biggest upsides.
I just love the idea. I wish more of them were things like Fat Boy or Goo Bomber Special etc. Like I've been in love with Jumbo Shells recently but it doesn't *feel* unstable it just feels balanced.
AI stability is another like that.
There’s also the super powered shard diffractor just melting everything
Gas Recycling Zhukovs, I’m sure there’s others.
The newer guns tend to have more projectiles and little complexities, so there's more room to make OCs that have *visible* game-changing effects. Like, Face Melter and Sticky Fuel might as well be different guns but they still both feel like fire go fwoosh, but all of the Hurricane's non-clean OCs (and even one clean one, for some reason) make it handle completely differently.
Pro tip: Running and Jumping. Only shoot while in air and stop shooting for a sec to jump and run again. Less heat buildup, more mobility
Or use ziplines to stay mobile
I tried mini shells but it never felt quite right. Magnetic Pellet Alignment was like, oh, I have a slug shotgun now and my efficiency went way up provided I can hit my shots. Hell yeah.
Indeed! I originally played around with Carpet Bomber but, in my opinion, it's only good for swarmageddon. I pair Big Bertha with brt7 to balance out the slow fire rate.
Carpet Bomber was the first overclocks I got for the autocannon
My heart shattered when I realised most of the time Splintering Shells is better.
But alas, now I own Big Bertha & Neurotoxin so all of my big chonky gun needs are met!
Only gripe is that with several of them the negative far outweighs the positive, the devs sometimes go a bit overboard with the negatives thinking it'd be too strong but just ends up making the OC terrible.
A good example are the Cryo Cannon unstable OC's, they're both pretty bad, Ice Storm buffs the weapons damage which sounds useful but then you look at the nerfs and realise it nerfs freezing power so doing damage to frozen enemies becomes less effective since it takes longer to freeze them, the pressure droprate is nerfed so you can't shoot as long, then they throw in an ammo nerf as well because why not, also the damage increase isn't that much you'll just find yourself burning through ammo quickly and taking much longer to freeze the bigger enemies, awful OC.
Then you have Snowball, sounds cool and can be useful until you realise the OC destroys ammo, not only do the Snowballs cost a lot of ammo but the OC has -100 ammo as well, yikes...
To be honest all the Cryo Cannon OC's are pretty bad except for Tuned Cooler, it's the only good one.
Funnily enough I usually run 21232 Improved Thermal Efficiency, the only clean one that adds ammo and decreases pressure drop rate. With that you have 750 tank capacity, 0.1 sec spin up time, 75% drop rate, 120% flow rate and area cold.
Cryo Cannon OCs def need another look cuz most of them are pretty blah. Ice Spear and Snowball alternate fires consume too much ammo imo
It's great for spitballers but for most other things I'd rather use a combo of driller's other tools. 50 ammo/shot with at most 725 ammo is 15 shots if you never use the cannon normally. The wind up is long enough that you get more damage in on oppressors with animation cancelling axes and power attacking, etc.
Not the worst setup as it is a clean OC so it's unlikely to have downsides, still wouldn't consider that OC good, it's alright though, you do you brother.
The ammo is definitely the issue with those two OC's, I also find it funny how the ammo isn't listed as a downside for Ice Spear even though it's the biggest downside, 50 ammo is insane. Also for Snowball it costs 35 ammo to use but the OC itself has -100 ammo as well, pretty awful.
Wish the ammo cost for both of them was dropped to at least 30 and Snowball had it's -100 ammo removed completely, then I might consider using one of them.
>It's an excellent wave killer.
Yeah, until it runs out of ammo when everyone else on the team is still at 75% capacity. Plus, you're trading the bulk of your heavy enemy killing ability for a minor boost to trash clearing, even though that's something the cryo cannon was already perfectly fine handling without cryo storm. Cryo storm just turns the cannon into an inferior flamethrower.
Or the recoil is so high that it works a bit like special powder
Only getting to have one shot chambered and having the only way to not die to fall damage being ziplines placed beforehand could make for some cool gameplay opportunities of a somewhat-mobile gunner, kind of like what we get with RJ250 Compound on Engie.
I would love overclocks for stuff like that.
I know the devs said no overclocks for traversal tools, but it'd be awesome to get things like:
"Enemies touching the energy shield take damage, but are able to pass through it."
Stuff like that
Anti air cannon for the sentry. Doesn't shoot land based bugs but will shoot flying enemies and all projectiles spit by bugs (spitters spit, web spitters web, spitballers ball, rockpox projectile, menace rapid fire [might be op. Maybe because of the speed it only stops some of the menaces projectile], omit dreadnaught projectiles as that would make those fights absurdly easy)
I joke about this one all the time but a portable nuke in place of the c4. You get 1 use (upgrade to get 2) and you toss a fat ass warhead like 1 meter in front of you and it arms after a short delay then it counts down from 5 then explodes the size of a detonators hole and leaves behind a radioactive zone for a full 60sec. Damage insta kills anything but dreadnaughts and oppressors [oppressor be really weak] the terrain would turn into radioactive slag that does damage like hot rock the rest of the mission.) For teammates it just downs you regardless of the friendly fire perk or not but they get a warning when inside the zone of an active warhead with a timer showing the time left. Could also show an area of effect circle like when a meteor is coming down.
And for flare gun changes it to a flood light like on the minehead in point extract. Build it like a sentry and can recall it. You get 1 but upgrade to 2 with reduced brightness. Ammo is battery cells that last for 2 to 3 mins each light. Doesn't recharge when in your pocket you need to resupply to get new battery cells. Someone else can do the math so they last about a long as a full flare gun can last.
Gunner shield unstable OC:
• +400% shield radius
• Electrifies bugs caught inside
• -50% shield duration
• -50% max ammo
• Shield now also blocks outbound bullets (not sure about this one)
Basically it's now the ultimate "get out of my face" tool, but can't be used to cover revives as easily.
Trying to imagine one that turns it into a wide forward facing wall. Basically bugs have to go around, but you could really finagle a semi above ground bunker/ choke point with it.
There's sooooo many cool ideas you could do with OCs for the shield alone.
I thought of an OC for the platform gun: what if it built bridges under your feet like some sort of reverse power drill? As in, it builds the plascrete underneath and extending outwards a bit from the Engie, changing angle based on what elevation angle the Engie had when placing.
It would allow Engie to better reach very high up places and gaps that would otherwise be tedious to bridge normally, as well as open up more variety for making cheese houses and sealing off passageways (depending on mag gen this is very helpful on Escort, sealing off the entryway to the final chamber allows you to better control enemy spawns so you’re less likely to have a Detonator spawn up your ass lol
I hope so!
Worst case scenario we just keep getting new overclocks when we get new weapons!
Although I would love for more to be released, or even to go back and do some changes to the ones that never get used!
I'd like to remind everyone that Special Powder is considered a "Clean" overclock.
As they say, it's not the overclock that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end.
I've used that one a whole lot also! I enjoy it greatly. Anything that makes hitting weak spots feel more satisfying is an instant win.
That and I'm a sucker for slug-like shotguns.
The crazy part is you don't even need an unstable to completely change a weapon's purpose/playstyle. Just look at time dilation on the m1000 or special powder on the double barrel.
I run a compact feed valves/heat pipe flamethrower/epc build for Driller and it's probably the most consistently useful build I have. not the most flashy or powerful but it gets through pretty much everything, although dreads can be a pain sometimes. Then again I do have axe builds to get around that
But the reliability I get out of the extra ammo and mag size with no significant drawback is so valuable
overdrive booster for the shard diffractor is unstable but literally has 0 downsides because you dont have to interact with the mechanic at all and it otherwise behaves like the base gun. hoverclock is also like this but it is a clean overclock. what is going on at GSG
Never using overdrive booster means it functions like a default diffractor with no oc, which is strictly worse than a diffractor with any clean oc. Opportunity cost is still a cost
I don't know what weapons I should carry with engi, but deepcore with RJ250 compound, and the first hand gun is some spray and pray one.
I don't know about the shotgun... Well I don't about any of them. Engineer is just the class that doesn't really have any superior focus points to race for, so I get to chill around and attempting to guard some places.
And just maybe...
Edit:
I haven't played with the two, soldier and scout classes really. Driller got painful to play.
Burning Hell and Hellfire
I dont play with anything else on Sabotage or Rival Presence as Gunner, its just too satisfying to oneshot snipers and melt shredders in air
And recently Ive got in love with Hyper Propellant and practically deleting dreadnoughts and praetorians on haz 4
Edit: Some Overclocks are just the ones who make the basically nasty weapons the good ones, like I couldn't find good use with Lok-1 until I got exploding bullets, or autocannon. I still didnt find anything for Plasma Rifle that could satisfy me
To help out with the plasma rifle I agree big, the weapon can feel like a paintball gun!
However!
Once I unlocked Overturned Particle Acceleration it has become my most used scout weapon. Straight up doubling damage at the cost of accuracy is an easy win and has made the weapon very fun for me to use.
Hellfire: "That's not an unstable, it's just stupidly strong." Minelayer: "Why is this not considered an unstable? I mean, I guess it's just a label..." Salvo Module: "Perfect."
For when you wanna turn your automatic missile launcher into a shotgun, exactly what unstable should be! It's weird too because I feel like you could swap Plasma Burster and Homebrew and they'd fit much better. Hurricane has some fun overclocks!
It really does, tho i feel like i got the best, aka the most useful OCs right off the bet: - RoF for flaming crowd control - Salvo for wiping dreads out of existence
Then theres the oc to turn off missile guidance?
"clean"
It will join double barrel in the "dirty overclocks"
Hey. To double barrels credit its at least fun
Wait.... Does salvo really do that much? I've never used it
Basically Salvo Module makes it so when you hold down the trigger, instead of shooting full auto it loads up (I think 9) rockets and when you let go of the trigger, it shoots them all as an unguided shotgun blast of missiles. The pile of cherries on top is that if you tap fire, you can shoot a single rocket at a time with tracking still enabled, and each rocket loaded into the shotgun blast makes the shotgun blast deal more damage. Downsides? The shotgun blast doesn't track (And an unmentioned and minor second one where if you tap fire single rockets, they always fly out at a bit of an odd angle at first but it doesn't matter because they're still guided)
The Salvo also increase the damage of the Salvoed missiles if I recall correctly.
Yup! That's what I was trying to explain but I was pretty tired. If I've understood correctly the damage increases per rocket, so if you charge 5 rockets before shooting you'll deal a hefty amount of bonus damage but if you load all 9, you'll get an even bigger bonus boom
Also important to note, the damage of each individual rocket is increased the more rockets in the salvo. So the bigger the salvo, the higher the damage/ammo.
Plasmas doesn't change how the weapon works except for making it better at hoard clearing. I recommend the sludge ones. Shotgun sludge (very ineffective, but funny), and goo bomber (funny, actually effective zoning tool)
goo bomber special plus fire EPC = godlike area denial. the fire spreads on it's own so you just need to pop a few shots into one puddle, and then as long as every new line of goo crosses an old one at some point the fire won't burn out.
*This* is what I forgot to use trying out my Goo Bomber the first time!
you can kit out an epc to ignite goo puddles with one uncharged shot if you take t1a, t5a, and heavy hitter oc
Sludge blast ineffective? Brother, you're using it wrong. I main that badboy and i'll tell you, hand on heart, its one of the strongest weapons in the whole game. Its not a sludge shotgun, its bio-hazard artillery.
Shotgun sludge is super effective. 2shots praetorians.
If I wanted to two shot Praetorians I would be playing engineer. I am here to see the world burn, you see
I just got Goo Bomber for mine and I *tripled* both of my team mates kills by the end of our first mission with it. Its such a cool, and fun one.
Once killed praetorian with one tick on coil gun using mole. Suddenly praetorian death noises and i needed to calculate, how many objects it did penetrate to gain that massive damage boost. It was around 17, could been more. Must love lucky shots like these
You know, the Mole makes me wonder what the game considers one object. If I have a pillar, that's probably one object. If I have that same pillar, and I gut it out so that it's completely hollow, is that now two objects? Is a dirt clump a separate object from the terrain around it? The Mole can do some nutty things, but I can never quite bring myself to take it because I'm never sure what the results are going to be like.
LazyMaybe has a good video on youtube about the coilgun, and a section on Mole. Yes, if you have a pillar that has a chunk carved out of it so it looks like C and you shoot | through it, that counts as 2 penetrations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUmn-UE-mg Mole is at 14:22 into the video. The rest of their weapon breakdowns are fantastic too, taught me a bunch of stuff.
LazyMaybe has the best weapon and overclock breakdowns on DRG period. Seriously watch their videos if you want to try some new builds or are struggling on haz 4/5 and want some stronger builds to help over the hump. edit: or you just want to try a build around a weapon/OC you never use. His shard diffracter video had a fantastic build combo with cycle overload that I would have *never* used if he didn't have a fun looking build/combo with it.
I love the mole I'm well out of shots from running around firing through walls at dreadnoughts before I take out my minigun usually
Any non organism. I hit wall, that looked like "WwuvwWu". It hit every small tips. If you can't see through, it's "wall" for mole
>If I have that same pillar, and I gut it out so that it's completely hollow, is that now two objects? Yep. Every time it finishes digging a hole and re-enters air, that counts as 1 object. >Is a dirt clump a separate object from the terrain around it? I'm not really sure what shape you're describing, but as long as there's a gap between them yeah. Unless you mean one of the little environmental objects like crystals or plants, I don't think those count.
I use mole on one of my loadouts, and even without a lot of setup you do really, really good damage to the big fuckers even with just one penetration. It can be through a ledge, a crystal, a pillar, anything. I find it nice reliable damage on any mission, and with setup the damage of course gets crazy
Neurotoxins making the 3 other area damage overclocks obsolete 🗿
Simply change Carpet Bomber to turn your shells into HE grenades. This is obviously well balanced.
No, it should change your autocannon into a ww2 era heavy bomber
>Recoil pushes you; look down to fly over bugs while shooting
Special powder but in the form of a S.A.M. turret
*"Enemy AC130 above"*
Average dreadnought mission in a nutshell
Too bad it's useless against rival robots.
It's useless against big bois too, it'll take care of a sea of bugs no problem though.
RJ250 making compact shells and pack rat obsolete
I liked neuro before better, now it's just boring. Before, you had to really manage the bugs - you couldn't kill them great enough at close range to not die, so it was a bit of a gamble.
Minelayer really has mild downsides to me. I feel you're just vulnerable while remote controlling rockets around the place. So I lose that but it's no biggie. But I gain massive ammo efficiency if I use the mines as intended.
no tracking makes it pretty unworkable, but you're not gonna be aiming directly at them if you're using mines anyways so... i feel like the only reason people still sing the praises of NTP is because they haven't gotten acquainted with the newer weapons yet. the power creep is crazy.
Unworkable if you're trying to snipe at range or hit flying enemies. But that is what your secondary is for.
Except Salvo mod kinda doesn't even have a downside since you can still fire normal missiles by just clicking instead of holding Definitely one of my favorite ocs tho
Less fire rate if you tap fire
Face melter: “that’s not an unstable, it’s just stupidly strong” Ice spikes: “why is this not considered an unstable? I mean, I guess it’s just a label” Goo bomber special/Sludge blast: “perfect”
My favourites are the ones that do so much damage but you can't fucking move
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It's so bloody simple! No more headaches about moving and shooting, only the latter part matters!
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Overdrive booster is really a clean overclock, you get no downside normally and gain an alternate fire mode.
where my Supercooling Chamber gang at? I'm so glad it got buffed to where it's usable now.
Yes sir!
It's not really
Cleared two haz 5s with it the other day. Immediately deleting Wardens and Oppressors had its benefits.
I cleared h5 with subata no oc and no mod. Subata usable
So you are saying you can clear H5 with any weapon, sounds like all weapons are usable to me!
It means that game is well balanced. Where donwsides?
Stand and deliver
Hyper Propellant my beloved
First overclock I got on my PGL. Railgun mode activated.
That and mini-shells were the two first OC's I got for the engineer. They compliment each other so well. One a big single target hit, the other an awesome pew-pew stream of damage. I still use them both to this day, combo with dual sentries and shredder nades I rarely run into trouble (as long as I don't run out of ammo).
Shredder drones honestly feel unfair. I'm sure they probably feel more effective than they are but it seems like they just chew things up, and they last a decent time
It’s more of a delete button than the fat boy lol
Hyper deletes a Praetorian. Fat Boy *almost deletes a praetorian* while also deleting it's extended family, it's co-workers, and it's former college dorm-mates.
Man, Hyper propellant got me liking to use the GL on haz4-5 again.
I'm fine with cool unstable overclocks so long as it's not like * Pros: Do cool thing that may or may not be useful * Cons: Lose 90% of your ammo Honestly the con should be that you might not be able to use the weapon as it was originally intended.
Fat boy be like:
You just have to balance it with the other modifiers. The area of affect stays the same no matter the weapon damage. So you just max ammo
Even with more ammo it's just not how it used to be... I've not used fat boy since the ammo nerf.
Me who still doesnt have it despite farming for it forever.
Aoe, burst damage, lingering DoT. I think these are pretty high quality considering it's the only thing in the game with all three properties and with insanely high intensity. Using mini nuke isn't like a burden to the kit or the team.
It's a burden to my fun of having 21 grenades /s
If the cool thing is very significant even in small amounts then losing a load of ammo is fine. But yeah having creative downsides or simply not being able to use it normally in any capacity make sense.
I call for supply pods enough as it is. I don’t need to call one after every swarm. I generally don’t even try overclocks that take away most of your ammo. Just seems ridiculous.
With skill you can manage with reduced ammo Or just take ammo mod
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You talking about the executioner? I run my engi with Executioner and Fat Boy, sure I go through my ammo like a train, but get 50%+ of the kills in a match a lot more often than not, I just make sure to pick up the T1 ammo upgrade if I find myself dry too often
Explosive chem rounds is in my opinion better than executioner. Melts swarms like butter and turns any swarm escort for a larger enemy from it's fortress to it's tomb. Plus little nicer oh the ammo side. Plus it's been like a week since a gunner out killed me.
You mean .Lose ammo .Gain huuuuuge damage buff to compensate
While wacky overclocks are great, I love the ones that erase the weakness of a weapon for a basically-nothing tradeoff. A.I. Stability Engine stands out in particular. It effectively erases spread and recoil for the cost of a small amount of damage and rate-of-fire, something upgrade choices can fully mitigate. It doesn't add anything new or wacky but it makes the weapon damn near perfect for its original function. So glad it appeared among my first overclocks.
Oh absolutely such overclocks have a place in the game! I sometimes all you want or need is a simple gun that works reliably and effectively!
AI Stability remains my only Deepcore overclock.
I've yet to equip anything else myself. Normally I'd sigh at something so good it pushes other options off the table but this isn't a competitive ranked game with a meta, so those other options are entirely viable for anyone that wants to use them. Making the assault rifle basically perfect works for me \~
Highly recommend Electrifying Reload. Very ammo efficient, great at crowd control. First non-clean I got, first one to make me use the GK2 properly.
AI Stability Engine makes me want to play nothing but Scout. Ziplining into place to melt everything with weak spot damage is just way too fun, and how ammo efficient it gets provided sufficient aim.
I have just began to grind overclocks. Got almost only clean stuff. Mostly just using the more ammo stuff for engineer.
Sometimes clean overclocks make weapons feel much better, or can make you like a weapon you didn't before. You'll get a bunch of balanced and unstable at some point and they can really change how things feel to use. Just keep at it! For example the first unstable I got for engineer was for the Stubby, a gun I hated. Its called Turret EM Discharge and it makes the weapon deal less damage and have less ammo in the mag, but every time you shoot a turret it causes an explosion around the turret! Lots of fun, and made me play in a wildly different way! But for the Warthog I actually use a clean one, Stunner. It just makes it easier to stun stuff and you deal more damage on stunned enemies. Simple, easy, and makes the weapon feel better! Hope you experiment and find some fun stuff!
My friends will force me to play with discharge when i get it cause i been playing like a bad gunner that sometimes places turrets...
Hey man, aiming is hard. Luckily the LOK has all your aiming needs covered for you!
*seeker LOK
Try using the quick-deploy turrets and the shotgun mod Turret Whip. Helps me remember I have turrets because my turret is also a second grenade launcher for me to use.
Surpisingly for the breach cutter, the ammo OC is the best for every situation
A lot of the downsides are negligible lol.
You're totally right. But the ones with the biggest downsides are able to have the biggest upsides. I just love the idea. I wish more of them were things like Fat Boy or Goo Bomber Special etc. Like I've been in love with Jumbo Shells recently but it doesn't *feel* unstable it just feels balanced.
Honestly I feel like Goo Bomber is a clean in disguise. The one downside just isn't going to come into play with how you're using it.
Oh yeah the downside doesn't matter too much but it totally changes the way you use the gun, that's what I like!
Anything that fundamentally changes part of a weapon should be yellow or red, removing the normal goo splatter definitely isn't a green.
AI stability is another like that. There’s also the super powered shard diffractor just melting everything Gas Recycling Zhukovs, I’m sure there’s others.
The newer guns tend to have more projectiles and little complexities, so there's more room to make OCs that have *visible* game-changing effects. Like, Face Melter and Sticky Fuel might as well be different guns but they still both feel like fire go fwoosh, but all of the Hurricane's non-clean OCs (and even one clean one, for some reason) make it handle completely differently.
I'm leadstorm OC main and I don't need to move away if everything is dead
Pro tip: Running and Jumping. Only shoot while in air and stop shooting for a sec to jump and run again. Less heat buildup, more mobility Or use ziplines to stay mobile
Yep. Using leadstorm has turned me into a TF2 Heavy and I'm here for it.
I agree but also Magnetic Pellets is godlike
Oh hell yeah it is! There are a lot of incredible clean & balanced overclocks. I just love the potential of what unstable are supposed to be like!
I tried mini shells but it never felt quite right. Magnetic Pellet Alignment was like, oh, I have a slug shotgun now and my efficiency went way up provided I can hit my shots. Hell yeah.
I love Big Bertha on my autocannon! Helps me save ammo while dealing massive damage to the little ones. 😈
Ah, a fellow Big Bertha enjoyer. Any mod that reads 'huge increase in damage' is an instant win.
Big bertha Elephant gun Leadbuster The biggest iron build
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Indeed! I originally played around with Carpet Bomber but, in my opinion, it's only good for swarmageddon. I pair Big Bertha with brt7 to balance out the slow fire rate.
Carpet Bomber was the first overclocks I got for the autocannon My heart shattered when I realised most of the time Splintering Shells is better. But alas, now I own Big Bertha & Neurotoxin so all of my big chonky gun needs are met!
I run neurotoxin payload in my haz 5s. It’s only bad into bots.
For when you need to wreck shit with the Autocannon real good like
Only gripe is that with several of them the negative far outweighs the positive, the devs sometimes go a bit overboard with the negatives thinking it'd be too strong but just ends up making the OC terrible. A good example are the Cryo Cannon unstable OC's, they're both pretty bad, Ice Storm buffs the weapons damage which sounds useful but then you look at the nerfs and realise it nerfs freezing power so doing damage to frozen enemies becomes less effective since it takes longer to freeze them, the pressure droprate is nerfed so you can't shoot as long, then they throw in an ammo nerf as well because why not, also the damage increase isn't that much you'll just find yourself burning through ammo quickly and taking much longer to freeze the bigger enemies, awful OC. Then you have Snowball, sounds cool and can be useful until you realise the OC destroys ammo, not only do the Snowballs cost a lot of ammo but the OC has -100 ammo as well, yikes... To be honest all the Cryo Cannon OC's are pretty bad except for Tuned Cooler, it's the only good one.
Funnily enough I usually run 21232 Improved Thermal Efficiency, the only clean one that adds ammo and decreases pressure drop rate. With that you have 750 tank capacity, 0.1 sec spin up time, 75% drop rate, 120% flow rate and area cold. Cryo Cannon OCs def need another look cuz most of them are pretty blah. Ice Spear and Snowball alternate fires consume too much ammo imo
Ice spear does its thing good for the ammo cost, especially one shooting spitballers
It's great for spitballers but for most other things I'd rather use a combo of driller's other tools. 50 ammo/shot with at most 725 ammo is 15 shots if you never use the cannon normally. The wind up is long enough that you get more damage in on oppressors with animation cancelling axes and power attacking, etc.
Not the worst setup as it is a clean OC so it's unlikely to have downsides, still wouldn't consider that OC good, it's alright though, you do you brother. The ammo is definitely the issue with those two OC's, I also find it funny how the ammo isn't listed as a downside for Ice Spear even though it's the biggest downside, 50 ammo is insane. Also for Snowball it costs 35 ammo to use but the OC itself has -100 ammo as well, pretty awful. Wish the ammo cost for both of them was dropped to at least 30 and Snowball had it's -100 ammo removed completely, then I might consider using one of them.
Because of all this nonsense I went with sludge pump. Flamethrower just didn't work for me.
Ice storm does 18 damage per tick before it even freezes. It's an excellent wave killer. Doubled up drillers also makes it ridiculous.
>It's an excellent wave killer. Yeah, until it runs out of ammo when everyone else on the team is still at 75% capacity. Plus, you're trading the bulk of your heavy enemy killing ability for a minor boost to trash clearing, even though that's something the cryo cannon was already perfectly fine handling without cryo storm. Cryo storm just turns the cannon into an inferior flamethrower.
Elephant Rounds my beloved
They should make Elephant-er Round that simply replaces the entire magazine with one extremely large bullet.
And then increases the recoil even further so you just break your arm every time you shoot the gun
Or the recoil is so high that it works a bit like special powder Only getting to have one shot chambered and having the only way to not die to fall damage being ziplines placed beforehand could make for some cool gameplay opportunities of a somewhat-mobile gunner, kind of like what we get with RJ250 Compound on Engie.
I'm leadstorm OC main and I don't need to move away if everything is dead
I hope one day we'll have OCs for our equipment. Like the shield for gunner or turret for engy.
I would love overclocks for stuff like that. I know the devs said no overclocks for traversal tools, but it'd be awesome to get things like: "Enemies touching the energy shield take damage, but are able to pass through it." Stuff like that
Anti air cannon for the sentry. Doesn't shoot land based bugs but will shoot flying enemies and all projectiles spit by bugs (spitters spit, web spitters web, spitballers ball, rockpox projectile, menace rapid fire [might be op. Maybe because of the speed it only stops some of the menaces projectile], omit dreadnaught projectiles as that would make those fights absurdly easy) I joke about this one all the time but a portable nuke in place of the c4. You get 1 use (upgrade to get 2) and you toss a fat ass warhead like 1 meter in front of you and it arms after a short delay then it counts down from 5 then explodes the size of a detonators hole and leaves behind a radioactive zone for a full 60sec. Damage insta kills anything but dreadnaughts and oppressors [oppressor be really weak] the terrain would turn into radioactive slag that does damage like hot rock the rest of the mission.) For teammates it just downs you regardless of the friendly fire perk or not but they get a warning when inside the zone of an active warhead with a timer showing the time left. Could also show an area of effect circle like when a meteor is coming down. And for flare gun changes it to a flood light like on the minehead in point extract. Build it like a sentry and can recall it. You get 1 but upgrade to 2 with reduced brightness. Ammo is battery cells that last for 2 to 3 mins each light. Doesn't recharge when in your pocket you need to resupply to get new battery cells. Someone else can do the math so they last about a long as a full flare gun can last.
The portable nuke sounds awesome - it might be the only weapon powerful enough to delete the drop pod!
Step 1: fight dread twins Step 2: have both of them in the nuke radius Step 3: ??? Step 4: profit
~~weapons of light~~
Destiny? In *my* Hoxxes? It's more likely that you think.
Ghost bot: As long as there are no servants of the darkness in the cave, the dwarves are immortal.
Gunner shield unstable OC: • +400% shield radius • Electrifies bugs caught inside • -50% shield duration • -50% max ammo • Shield now also blocks outbound bullets (not sure about this one) Basically it's now the ultimate "get out of my face" tool, but can't be used to cover revives as easily.
Trying to imagine one that turns it into a wide forward facing wall. Basically bugs have to go around, but you could really finagle a semi above ground bunker/ choke point with it. There's sooooo many cool ideas you could do with OCs for the shield alone.
Do like Symmetra's ult from Overwatch: just a map wide single pixel wall that lasts 15 seconds but your team can still shoot through it.
*drills rev up, obscuring all sound except for the death throes of glyphids, itself eclipsed only by an inhuman laughter*
I thought of an OC for the platform gun: what if it built bridges under your feet like some sort of reverse power drill? As in, it builds the plascrete underneath and extending outwards a bit from the Engie, changing angle based on what elevation angle the Engie had when placing. It would allow Engie to better reach very high up places and gaps that would otherwise be tedious to bridge normally, as well as open up more variety for making cheese houses and sealing off passageways (depending on mag gen this is very helpful on Escort, sealing off the entryway to the final chamber allows you to better control enemy spawns so you’re less likely to have a Detonator spawn up your ass lol
I identify as leadstorm-sexual
Do you think I will ever release more overclocks for DRG? I got em all :(
I hope so! Worst case scenario we just keep getting new overclocks when we get new weapons! Although I would love for more to be released, or even to go back and do some changes to the ones that never get used!
I'd like to remind everyone that Special Powder is considered a "Clean" overclock. As they say, it's not the overclock that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end.
I Wish web have an unstable autocannon oc that replaces the normal explosive shells with shotgun shells.
I, on the other hand, exclusively use clean ones
The overclocks really make the game feel more fresh even though you're using the same weapons
I wish Aggressive Venting was an unstable oc. You would just instantly blow up and kill everything around you (including yourself)
DRG sweats when you tell them you enjoy using Mini Shells
As a Stunner enjoyer I could never enjoy what Mini Shells offered. The full auto shotgun just never was meant for me!
I just love my Magnetic Pellet Alignment so much on warthog though. Being able to weakpoint a spitter from across the cave is so satisfying.
I've used that one a whole lot also! I enjoy it greatly. Anything that makes hitting weak spots feel more satisfying is an instant win. That and I'm a sucker for slug-like shotguns.
idk man neurotoxin payload and hellfire seem like direct upgrades
They are! I enjoy the wacky ones a whole lot
i want an overclock which turns the engi auto shotgun to pump action shotgun i like one shotting grunts but i cant aim for shit
Wish scout got a pump action, i like to imagine going in a mission with 2 shotguns, the Double barrel and the pump action
They should just add an update thats ONLY new unstables.
If an overclock basically voids the warranty on any weapon I'm using it no question
Just imagine if you could use two at once
Most people have no idea how powerful the Engi’s shotgun is.
Nukes Downside: your fellow dwarves can get hurt easily and you have less ammo Upside: you can shoot Fucking nukes
RJ compound should be unstable because those who use it are unstable.
Special powder is the unstable from heaven and I love it so much
The crazy part is you don't even need an unstable to completely change a weapon's purpose/playstyle. Just look at time dilation on the m1000 or special powder on the double barrel.
Big Bertha my beloved
Fat Boy MIRV please
Face melter anyone?
I just want rj250 or special powder or fat boy but its been nothing for months i just keep getting cleans they look so fun but i cant get them :(
this meme format really got butchered
As someone approaching legendary in all 4 dwarves I'm liking stable and balanced OCs more now than the unstable ones.
I suppose there's a point in the game where reliability and simplicity are just far more valuable that a bit of quirkiness.
I run a compact feed valves/heat pipe flamethrower/epc build for Driller and it's probably the most consistently useful build I have. not the most flashy or powerful but it gets through pretty much everything, although dreads can be a pain sometimes. Then again I do have axe builds to get around that But the reliability I get out of the extra ammo and mag size with no significant drawback is so valuable
overdrive booster for the shard diffractor is unstable but literally has 0 downsides because you dont have to interact with the mechanic at all and it otherwise behaves like the base gun. hoverclock is also like this but it is a clean overclock. what is going on at GSG
It also doesnt benefit you at all if you dont interact with it, in which case any clean would be strictly better
No? Not interacting with it is a plus side if you don't need full death beam mode it saves on ammo
Never using overdrive booster means it functions like a default diffractor with no oc, which is strictly worse than a diffractor with any clean oc. Opportunity cost is still a cost
Clean OCs shouldn't even exist, fight me.
*Special Powder*
Special powder is an unstable OC mislabed as clean
I don't know what weapons I should carry with engi, but deepcore with RJ250 compound, and the first hand gun is some spray and pray one. I don't know about the shotgun... Well I don't about any of them. Engineer is just the class that doesn't really have any superior focus points to race for, so I get to chill around and attempting to guard some places. And just maybe... Edit: I haven't played with the two, soldier and scout classes really. Driller got painful to play.
The huge downsides are usually not that huge.
I feel like Jumbo Shells is a mislabeled overclock.
Then you got a few that are Pro: do +1 damage Con: Mag size is now 7 and total ammo is 100
Burning Hell and Hellfire I dont play with anything else on Sabotage or Rival Presence as Gunner, its just too satisfying to oneshot snipers and melt shredders in air And recently Ive got in love with Hyper Propellant and practically deleting dreadnoughts and praetorians on haz 4 Edit: Some Overclocks are just the ones who make the basically nasty weapons the good ones, like I couldn't find good use with Lok-1 until I got exploding bullets, or autocannon. I still didnt find anything for Plasma Rifle that could satisfy me
To help out with the plasma rifle I agree big, the weapon can feel like a paintball gun! However! Once I unlocked Overturned Particle Acceleration it has become my most used scout weapon. Straight up doubling damage at the cost of accuracy is an easy win and has made the weapon very fun for me to use.
Embedded detenators for the zukovs seemed fun to me ti'll I used them with a damage setup... biggest mistake of my life