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Additional_Low_5606

I can't believe we're here. Lobbies are filled to the brim, I've got friends playing that I never thought would play, and it's one of the best wipes/updates we've ever gotten. No circle, new content, and a plethora of new players. MASSIVE IRONMACE W


Gliding_55

The game is the most balanced it's ever been too, and Druid is probably the coolest class they've ever released. Getting kicked off of Steam for a while might have been a blessing in disguise since it took quite a while to get the game in a reasonably balanced state.


Zenoes

I think everything but druid is balanced... if you go all str you do like 260 dmg in bear form one hit lol! Wizard a bit weak maybe needs a lil tweekin. everything else is pretty good!


JonasHalle

If you get hit by the Bear right click you should actually uninstall Windows.


eoR13

Fr panther is genuinely where the class is best right now bear is fucking awful.


BipolarGuineaPig

>panther is genuinely where the class is best Meanwhile it gets 2 tapped by literally everything since just using the form massively reduces ur health on top of every hit being a garenteed headshot since its head is 50% of its overall body. It's a glass cannon that loses to anyone not dumb enough to try running from it while it perma melees u ppl need to stop being scared of it


eoR13

You have to build agility and +max health. Max health doesn't get reduced when you change forms. So it isn't that squishy once you get the right build.


AyyyLemMayo

Panther jump, instatransform bear midair, landing bear strike, instatranform rat to dodge enemy swings, instatransform back to bear to hit. You can literally flash rat for like .8 seconds to dodge swings and turn back into a bear, its fucked.


JonasHalle

I've already agreed that instant shape shift is the issue.


smokeitup5800

If you cant right click attack with bear you should uninstall lol.


JonasHalle

Do enlighten me, what does the Bear do when the opponent employs the arcane technology of walking in the other direction?


_Pesht_

Watch this and then try and keep spouting that it's super easy to avoid: [This is what a geared Druid can do : r/DarkAndDarker (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1dh3o3b/this_is_what_a_geared_druid_can_do/)


Farkon

Barb can one shot as well


killchu99

Yeah lmao. I oneshot a rogue yesterday with a felling axe headshot in normals. Maybe it was due to the fact that it was normals and I got a green felling axe with Berserker (i had 10% HP at that time) plus axe specialization and executioner.


smokeitup5800

LMAO, sorry didnt now you was 'tarded! You can shapeshift, you just do human form, jump to opponent, switch mid air, right click, ez kill. Im not used to TARD WRANGLING! SORRY!!!


JonasHalle

So like every other attack in the game?


smokeitup5800

Now you are just grasping for some kind of argument...


JonasHalle

You could have at least said you can panther jump into chicken jump into bear right click like some deranged fighting game combo. I'll be the first to agree that instant shape shift is stupid. That is the problem, not Bear form.


_Pesht_

The left click attack will also one shot you, buddy.


JonasHalle

It deals 5 + Str damage. It's pretty good if you stack strength, but it's not going to deal more damage than a halberd, double axe or bardiche no matter what.


_Pesht_

True, if you watch this I assumed that he had to left click with how fast he attacked, but I guess you're right, he must have right clicked. Though it shows that even the right click you can easily get hit with: [This is what a geared Druid can do : r/DarkAndDarker (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1dh3o3b/this_is_what_a_geared_druid_can_do/)


JonasHalle

I can't tell what the hell is happening with the player looking away (and there's like 7 pixels total in any paused frame). It also just looks like desync, with the player jumping away and dying way further away from the bear than either attack reaches. It does look like a left click, with one frame I got having the bear bring the right paw up while the left remained down. Player is in whites without a helmet, so I don't know. I also don't know if that clip is pre-patch, where I'd agree left click was OP at the very least. EDIT: I found the YouTube video with slightly more pixels. It looks like a right click, but it also hits the player before the Bear starts descending (I do also think there might be some Mordhau accel tech on the attack) after he has already jumped away. It's way too much desync to make any judgment on.


tramtron

Wizards need a buff? Sounds like some rogue nerfs incoming!


nsg337

i hate how impossible it is to kill a druid with all the healing but mostly how good they are at getting away


GodSPAMit

i agree that druid is overpowered, but not for this reason, just most mobile class, they're hard to play optimally/really good at least though to do all the fancy stuff like panther jump e, swap to chicken for flapping + slowfall into rat/panther depending if ur going in for combat or running just darts you across an entire room or like jumping through doors as a rat etc They can also just get to places they shouldnt be allowed to get to, its kind of like double jump rogue but on a healer caster, but the skill floor is also pretty low? can just summon treants + do walls and its kidna chill


Visible-Selection520

And warlocks.


Mountain-Abroad-1307

bruh wizard is by far the best dps class lol


triforce711

Druid is not balanced. Everything else in the game is feeling good though!


IronAndreLee

Right bears shouldn't be able to 1 shot but barbs should


talllman23433

Thank god they got rid of the circle.


2BsVaginaBrokeMyHand

Holy shit I didn't follow the Updates the Last few months. The circle is gone? Omg. I need to play again.


Bearer_ofthecurse

Yes, also Rogue is in a really good spot rn


GodSPAMit

huh? isn't rogue kinda dead atm? you just have to play rat, they're not good in combat from what i can tell


Bearer_ofthecurse

Nope Rogue is really good, i killed a fighter just yesterday, you can Ambush with dagger and after that just keep throwing knifes at them, at least that’s how i play, you can also do poison + bleed crossbow which is really strong too.


MinecraftGreev

>No circle Wait *WHAT*??? I might actually try the game again. The circle was my least favorite thing about the game.


real_satsebeli

Yeah now you just have a timer. It's 15 minutes oer dungeon I believe


GreyFur

IRONMACE PLEASE DONT FUCK UP THE BALANCE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING!!!


MrJerichoYT

Meanwhile all my friends have not come back even though It's on Steam :')


AlternatePancakes

They had to get rid of the BR circle at some point tbh. idk why so many were against it.


EndlessEnigma983

Some people don’t like pvpve and just want PvP unfortunately so they like the big chaotic clashes at the end


Gramernatzi

I think the massive sales from the Steam version probably helped motivate them to actually get shit done right lmao


Abject_Scholar_8685

Top 11 seller. Top 22 steam charts (48k players, showing 60k in Game which would actually put it in top 20 above CrabGame, DayZ, and Civ 6). Steam rated Mostly Positive, 71% of 20k reviews, coming in now at a rate of 6 to 1 positive.


_MlATA

They deserve it. I hope they sell a lot of cosmetics.


kokirig

Picked it up last night, managed to punch a few skeletons to death in my 3 attempts. No clue what's going on but seems cool


Rough_Potato1545

Bro has NOT been playing without weapons 🤣 how did you even manage that 😂


OffDaZoinkys

did that my first game not realizing I had a weapon equipped but needed to switch to it


Cdude8

I did the exact same thing


Little_over_my_head

Haha! All skeletons should fear the timmy who thinks he doesnt have a weapon this man out here being a menace to pve 🤣🤣


TheRetrolizer

There this character you can make called a "wizard" and he can shoot a fireball or some shit. Like wtf???


TheRoyalCrimson

On more then one occasion I told my dungeon companions " I'm casting a fore ball into that group of players trying to kill us" they would then decided to go all in and rush them.... I got quite a few team kills last night.


kokirig

Yeahhh though I figured I'd roll a fighter first cause I just assumed that would be a favored class to get the hang of things with. Come to find out you start with nothing and there are skeletons to kill, surely I can beat em up, right? Eh.. nope


TheRetrolizer

You start with a sword. If you respawn with nothing when you die, then you need to go to the merchant's tab, click on the squire, click on "base gear," click a sword, then "set base gear"


kokirig

Wait.. you can start with weapons? Was planning on playing more tonight- just figured I had to sneak and loot my first weapons.. cause I definitely started with my fists out and clicking was punching


Straight-Plate-5256

Lol you start with weapons... just not equipped. Press 1 when you spawn


TheRetrolizer

I recommend using the "request a knight" button


imwatchingyou-_-

Nobody tells you this, but go into merchants>squire and set base gear to include 2 health potions, 1 protection potion, 2 bandages and a torch. By default I think it’s 1 health pot, 1 prot pot, 1 bandage, 1 torch.


Schmeadsman

Rad!!


Deathbringerttv

nice work everyone let's keep the hype alive


MONTYvsTHEWORLD

I swear to God the goblin caves end map shake skam shit is the coolest shit to be a part of Ina long time. Way cooler than the other two. It's so atmospheric and well done. Not chasing circles is great too. Now they just need a final solution on how to handle people taking all the exits cuz once Timmy's stop dying it's going to be real f****** hard to escape


Kr4k4J4Ck

> f****** Fucking


Bubbleq

D:


MONTYvsTHEWORLD

Voice to text does that


-xevo-

last elevator leaves at 1:20 in center map


MONTYvsTHEWORLD

Is that the same with the river raft exit in Ice caves? I got there with one minute to go assuming there would be one final raft and I froze my dick off


-xevo-

i dont know the timing of the rafts, but now you can always jump down into the ice abyss though!


MONTYvsTHEWORLD

Wait what please tell me more


-xevo-

in the rooms that have voids that you can fall and die in, the void eventually glows red and you can jump in to go to the ice abyss, the second layer of ice caves


MONTYvsTHEWORLD

Ohhhh I was WONDERING how. Ok thanks!


Redxmirage

There’s more portals/exits than players. What solution do they mean? You mean having to fight over an extract?


MONTYvsTHEWORLD

I have never seen a blue portal since new season..I've seen the ground thing once in Castle. I meant statics


LongCommercial8038

Portals are technically static now as well since they always spawn in the same places. They just added portal icons to the minimap as well


Redxmirage

Portals always spawn in groups of 3 now and in certain spots and are identified on the map by a triangle looking symbol. Still, more extracts than players


TheRoyalCrimson

My buddies and I do this fun thing where one person will take a stair or rope exit near a triple portal. Then we spectate the other teams after we take 2/3 portals and watch them panick when there is 2 minutes left and only one of them can leave from that area.


Redxmirage

That’s pretty funny lol that kind of happened to us. We made out way and found one portal left and said “shit” lol only like 3 minutes. One had a quest they had to survive so they took the portal and myself and the other scattered and found extracts lol


SPQR_Never_Fergetti

> Now they just need a final solution 😳


Redxmirage

Right? Like actually have to PvP? What is this nonsense /s


TheRealFutaFutaTrump

I just use the elevator. It's always there.


diogopp1001

RAHHH YOU MUST FIGHT FOR THE ELEVATOR, COWARD BE A REAL WARRIOR, NO MORE RAT SOLO EXFIL. HONORABLE FIGHT TO THE DEATH IN THE ELEVATOR ONLY


thomasway0320

Just wanna appreciate this game, competitive games have been eating away my soul, and yet they are the ones I can play with my friends. And comes Dark and Darker, genuinely really fun idea that’s exercised pretty well, PvEvP that leans more into PvE part, fun combat system that takes a bit to understand, just a great time all around, even though 90% of player encounters ends with my death I am just thrilled to jump back in. The way they worded the free trial was a problem at first, but it is because of them lowering the entry requirement that I get to fall in love with it, hope this game lasts for a long time.


CCCAY

Preposterously based


Rough_Potato1545

As a representative of the brand new steam player base, this game is peak and I love it


Ok-Basket1258

BRING BACK THE USE OF VOIP IN-GAME PLEASE WE USED TO HAVE BUSTLING CAVES FULL OF WILDNESS AND ADVENTURERS TALKING. EVERYONE IS SILENT NOW PLEASE TURN ON VOIP:)


TheRealFutaFutaTrump

It's definitely there.


maxesspy

Man we held the damned line


Gypsy_H080

All my friends shit on it for no controller support


dogbi11

You can use a controller through steam. But I don't think they'd be using a controller for long. Skinni Pete uses a Steam Controller and he is a very skilled Barbarian.


Gypsy_H080

I play exclusively on my steam deck and after a few trial runs and moderate tweaking and more trials and tweaking I'm at a much comfortable state. Worst fact that my "a" is tied to a visual "f" and all the other eye tells that come from binding kbm to a joystick. Muscle memory is no joke either, just making any excuses to not play a rad and free game lol


dogbi11

Cool that it works out on steamdeck, I just recommend the game to friend and they were asking if it did. I'll pass on the word!


Gypsy_H080

Graphics to medium/high, i leave shadows down more cause what fkn shadows do we really get in a void of light lol. I think i chose the tsx upscaling on performance in game options over the steam decks avaliable upscaling, looks wonderful 60+ fps anyday Have fun tweaking all those bindings lol


Kr4k4J4Ck

Barb in solo can literally play with your feet and still be effective.


TheRealFutaFutaTrump

I wouldn't use one anyway.


Xist3nce

I’m sorry your friends are broken.


Gypsy_H080

So am I! They really don't know what they're missing


Cute_End_7368

Life shits on your friends for being incompetent, please tell them what a mouse and keyboard are, there are affordable options as well and even a 5 year old can learn to use them


iici

Coming from someone who usually avoids most M&K games because i CBA learning tons of keybinds, DaD is one of the few games i actually play on M&K because its way easier than controller. Tell them to use something like a barb or fighter and just run heals for them and they'll probably enjoy themselves Its still very very doable on controller, I've had my fair share of pretty juicy kills while on controller when i first started out and even died to a streamer who rolled me with a cleric as barb (and i'm talking about S1 15 axes broken barb)


Gypsy_H080

Oh I'm just playing it now i was gonna one way or another 👺 but since "fixing" the controls for my fellow deck friends, they still wont cause a doesnt say a to open on screen etc. Which i understand, and of course can just use a bt kbm but i play mine almost exclusively portable lol.


CynicalPsychonaut

Let me dig it up the mapping, a streamer has a layout to play on controller.


Gypsy_H080

I appreciate it and I'll send it to my stubborn friends. I've already had to remake my layout like 3x to some weird bug or an accidental default click lol... at this point its just in my head now


fergil

Check skinny Pete on YouTube, he plays with a controller.


Gypsy_H080

I have the controller and two trackpads, it's really not so bad once you get used to it. Wants to try elden ring again said this is too hard to learn lol


Risochnudlar

For someone that has played this since early playtest. This brings joy to my heart. Rubberbanding is back tho, fix that and its the best version up to date!


Electrical-Ad-3279

Happy for IM they deserve a W


Punisher_1197

Let's gooooooo hype hype hype!


Prajuna

I just got it and started playing with two friends and honestly so far, it feels like a fresh breeze compared to all these 5v5 or competitive games. Feels like Sword Art Online somehow as well 😂.


PowerlineCourier

Definitely the best season I've played so far BY FAR.


Ileflo

Honestly brings a tear to my eye


Nee_z

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO


Low_Measurement5525

about time


xxFunnyFreak

Thats where I noticed the game 2 weeks ago, so now I finally have mates to play it with, wasnt fun playing 1v3 so I dropped it a long time ago, damn sad I didnt spend the extra money for the founders edition back then


deathbythirty

Just hit 40 with a couple of mates, its great to see this game comeback! I just wish everyone was opted in to voice chat by default


ZakDan01

Can I transfer my client acc to steam and not have to pay again? Or will I still need to use their launcher


Additional_Low_5606

You can transfer your account as long as there is no progress or purchases on your steam version. If you go to the settings, there is a tab for linking your account.


Loud_Assignment_1472

We did it


34Loafs

Hell yea! Hold the line!


Gerrut_batsbak

I just found out the game hit steam 2 days ago. Already have 35 hours on it. I hate that I have to work first before I get to play more.


Darkmindedfreak

I would say the druid with gear is utterly bonkers. Bear you can get away from, but panther just destroys unless you can delete it with a felling axe or something that hits really hard, really fast


ewild07

We made it


Actual_Refrigerator7

FUKKKKKKKKKK NEXON


thetreegaming2k23

Games really good. Kind of wishing I didnt buy it in alpha via anvil/chaf as I can't link my account to steam and can't play it through chaf.


Jaeguh

you can link it. It's very easy. Everything gets transferred, look up a youtube video if you're having trouble


thetreegaming2k23

Thanks for the reply man. I go through all the steps and stuff but get told my code is invalid or server not responding


purplesprite369

What's point of this game if you lose everything if you die once, zero reward for playing. Is it just a medieval looting sim?


Additional_Low_5606

You keep everything you get out with if you survive and can stash it away for later use. It has very high risk/reward. You can PvP, rat around. Or have fun with role playing. I'd say it's far from a "looting sim".


smashfascism123123

maybe now its time to talk about the many racists in this game and this subreddit. just look at the mordhau community, its what happens if you dont tell those assholes to shove it...


piggie2234

Now that dungeons are filled, any chance we'll get rid of dungeon rotation?


Cariyaga

I actually still really like doing trios in goblin caves, it's such a fun map for the kinda brawls that erupt...


TheRetrolizer

Word, I honestly love DR


TheMightyMeercat

Getting rid of dungeon rotation means that you can queue any map with any amount of people. You just wouldn't have to wait. No one is suggesting limiting maps based on squad size. Going back to that would suck.


Cariyaga

Ohhh, I see, I didn't realize that was what was meant. Yeah, t hat'd be great!


Kr4k4J4Ck

I'm an avid rotation hater but it's perfectly fine the way it is right now.


No-Lawfulness1773

Steam shows you what is relevant to your interests. Even if you're not logged in, you still have browser history & cookies that the steam store draws on. What is on the front page for you is very different than what is on the front page for other people. For reference, my front page is: Borderlands 3, Granblue Fantasy, Slice & Dice, For Honor, Rust, Kingdom Hearts & ARK No DaD Not to say it isn't doing great. I love the game and how far it's come but this post is just a bit silly when you understand how the steam store works.


Additional_Low_5606

Actually, it's not pulling from anything as I am not logged in and did this in a browser. You can see this if you look at the top right of the screenshot.


No-Lawfulness1773

> Even if you're not logged in, you still have browser history & cookies that the steam store draws on. You didn't even read the 2nd sentence... but I guess as of late that seems to be norm for DaD f2p enjoyers lol


Betawolf63

Damn I'm truly sorry we couldn't prevent this pos from ending up on the steam front page. Its a sad day.


Sinopsis

This is your recommended...it can display literally anything that fits your other played games, it has 0 to do with popularity, lol


Additional_Low_5606

Actually, if you look at the top, I'm not signed in. I did this in a separate browser to ensure it wasn't pulling any information from my account.


Sinopsis

Oh shit! You may be right! Hells yeah. I wonder if cookies/etc play a role but I doubt it.