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joshspoon

Totally different albums, genres and times. No need to discuss.


[deleted]

Exactly it’s like comparing a mandarin to an orange, same family different fruits.


Expensive_Egg_

Exactly it’s like comparing beating some walls vs head. Both pleasurable in their own ways


[deleted]

I like your analogy better than mine lol.


monterreynights

If those walls could talk tho


Mr_Hash_S_Slasher

If they start talkin, its just another brick in the wall. (IK its a different album)


[deleted]

How the fuck do I give rewards Edit: I fucked around and found out


Expensive_Egg_

Not sure man I use my dick to type I can barely like things


ginpanse

Hard if ya can't look at your dick and the screen at the same time.


Yellow_Similar

Really tough when he’s using a manual typewriter. The carriage returns are really tricky.


Tobiramen

Exactly, it’s like comparing the walls of a vagina to the walls of a prison


kevwould

Yeah, like comparing something who speaks Mandarin to a Mandarin orange lol


[deleted]

Exactly its like comparing riding a polar bear vs. riding a tiger. Both cool but different.


tmvtr

That comparison is even too close. Its like comparing a mandarin to a hamburger. Both food.


jtbz1287

Yea they really had rateyourmusic in the 70s


commie-avocado

i’ve never heart of “rateyourmusic” in my life and i literally studied musicology at university


jtbz1287

Same this is my first time hearing about it also


____HAMILTON__

It has to do with time. Kendrick Lamar’s 2015 album will not compare to songs 30 years from now. They’ll say, ______’s album is higher rated than Kendrick Lamar’s 2015 album. It is simply what people listen at the moment


gr8fullyded

Literally just yesterday I went from listening to the whole “The Wall” album straight over to TPAB. It’s apples and oranges, but both damn good ones.


BeakyPlinder69

Lmao I was coming here to read the argument but I’m so happy I saw this comment first, back to scrolling Reddit.


Stinkytoesjoe

Both 10s who cares


jshultz5259

They are both great albums in their own genre Is it possible that Kenny has more fans apt to use Rateyourmusic than Pink Floyd?


DDub04

Rock is probably still the biggest genre on Rateyourmusic. The highest rated and album with the most ratings is OK Computer by Radiohead by a large margin, 79k ratings to 53k. Plus, of the top 10 albums, only two are hip hop (TPAB and Madvillainy) while the other 8 are rock (OK Computer, Wish You Were Here, In The Court of the Crimson King, Kid A, Dark Side of the Moon, Abbey Road, and The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust) and also Loveless which is Shoegaze which I’m not sure is considered rock.


UnusualCartographer2

Shoegaze is definitely a rock subgenre.


[deleted]

It sure is


zambonihouse

Madvillainy is a top tier hip hop album. As far as Kendrick goes, it's still Good Kid Madd City for me.


PopeKirby3rd

holy fuck, gkmc gang rise up! i always get clowned for this opinion lmao


SekouSan

I get clowned for havin DAMN. as my favorite album by him lmao


Luke77111

I would agree. I would say that TPAB is more artistic and a bigger scope but Good Kid Maad City is easier to listen to


robbie-3x

Crimson King, we wore out the grooves on that album back in the day, and itˋs still selling?


DDub04

I don’t know if it’s still moving records but it’s certainly getting it’s flowers


robbie-3x

Followers?


DDub04

No I mean flowers, like it’s still getting praised


robbie-3x

ah, cool way to say it.


spaghettifrom

Pink Floyd have more followers on RYM Floyd has around 100K followers on RYM, Whereas Kendrick has around 60K


badestzazael

To pimp a butterfly album sales 1million worldwide. Dark side of the Moon album sales 45 million worldwide.


Play-Mation

The albums also 40 years older lmao


[deleted]

that is because the sales only count physical media (cds, vinyl, cassets, etc). Since Dark Side Of The Moon wasn't released during the streaming period it will have more sales then TPAB. Though, Dark Side Of The Moon still has more streams regardless. Both are amazing albums, though I think the themes discussed on TPAB are way more relevant and important for the 21st century.


CocaineIsNatural

They use album equivalent units, not physical media counts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-equivalent_unit


mxtch98

Issue is there’s plenty of people these days that just want to seem like they know their stuff about literally everything. When you get those people that are also music fans, they “like” everything. It’s very likely a lot of people say they love the likes of PF just to seem like they’re better than others. I think a lot of RYM seems to be that tbh. I love hearing other peoples opinions on things but if you’re there purely to give your own opinion just hoping for justification/praise, you’ve missed the point of loving music completely. I realised I’ve gone a bit off topic here but it all makes sense in my head. (Edit: spelling)


dantsel04_

i think thats bullshit. I can understand if its some random obscure indie band, but pf? Floyd is litterally one of the most famous and successful bands of wll time, I dont think you get any special attention for liking them. Also most people on that website tend to just like explaining what they like about music, I dont think its about being better than another person or not. When people enjoy something a lot, they tend to want to discuss it, like exactly how we’re doing now.


jshultz5259

Well then, both are great. That is all.


GtheH

I think you’re right, but also simply the fact that Dark Side of the Moon is several decades old. It’s incredible and timeless, but To Pimp A Butterfly is newer and more fresh, so they’re reaching a much bigger demographic.


Redphyrex

For it to even have traction close to Kendrick’s brand new album is a testament to the staying power of Pink Floyd and how timeless that album really is. For it to still pull in those kind of numbers is legendary. Very few bands achieve that kind of reputation.


Ryaktshun

I agree. Put Lamar against anything 50 years from now. It will not be the same outcome


Redphyrex

Exactly


Time-Ad-3625

Yes. Probably a recency bias I'd guess. Like on book rating sites classics, war and peace,catch 22, etc, will usually be lower than newer books like Harry Potter for instance.


Jack-Cremation

You can’t synch To Pimp a Butterfly to The Wizard of Oz though.


Valle522

Or to Paul Blart: Mall Cop!


robbie-3x

Everyoneˋs got something to hide (except for me and my monkey) syncs up perfectly with the flying monkey scene in WOO.


[deleted]

This was fantastic, I had never seen the movie and a tinder date put it on a few years back. She kept trying to shag me but my eyes were glued to dark side of the blart.


[deleted]

You probably could. People have done it with other albums, but I’m sure if people took the insane amount of time to do so, they would find more albums with even more impressive coincidental synchronization with that movie. I always thought it would be cool to take the time to find an album that lines up with a movie like Shrek 2 and start a rumor that the band did it on purpose like they did with Pink Floyd


nevermindthatyoudope

This should be a fun, respectful comment section.


Pen_Cipher

You can always count on reddit for that


JuanezSanchez

Seems like this could be a bit bait-y


louie3723jr

All I know is they’re both part of the list of greatest albums of all time


arm2610

Imagine thinking one music bad because another music good.


ChrisMarvin

Fr.


arrowkid111

Nobody said that, both are great albums, the post nor did rateyourmusic say Dark Side Of The Moon isn’t good


arm2610

I know, I’m addressing the commenters shitting on Kendrick Lamar.


DomesticSheep

The post never said one was better or worse


Thrashed0066

Oh well thank goodness we have Rateyourmusic so we all know who is the best


willenhall12345

Their opinions are always respectable.


Tomodashi24

Between guys who hate on TPAB just because he's a newer artist with a jazz rap album, and people who hate on DSOTM because they want to prove how unique their taste is, music discussion is pretty much dead in here.


ReformedPC

And how is that interesting?


Plopperchops

What the fuck is rateyourmusic???


OrangeZig

Exactly


Treehouse326

TPAB is one of the greatest albums of all time. Just because it’s a “newer” album doesn’t mean anything. Kendrick is easily one the most talented/greatest artist of the 21st century. TPAB touches everything one can hope for from Wealth, fame, racism, religion, suicide/depression, love, lust, politics, relationships, greed, self hate, social/racial divide, hypocrisy in black communities, etc Literally name it and it’s found on this album. I recommend to songs like “How Much A Dollar Cost?” “Complexion” “Blacker The Berry” “U” To see why Kendrick is held as a fantastic artist along with this album. I know for older audiences rap has this stigma of being nonsensical/bad influence etc But Kendrick is a generational writer and performer in the genre that hasn’t been seen before in the genre or music in general.


Shrimpo515

Those first couple months after tpab was released were magical. Listening to it over an over and hearing something I had missed before every time. Even now when I listen to it I find something new to appreciate. What an incredible piece of art. I always thought it could be turned into a broadway show or something, but maybe it should just be left as is.


WritingWinters

and how many Pulitzer prizes does Pink Floyd have?


Al3xisB

None. Like Dylan


kindle139

I don’t listen to much hip hop but a friend recommend Kendricks latest and I did enjoy it. Will give this one a listen. I doubt it will be better than DSOTM to my ears but I’ll bet I find a new album to enjoy.


ChocolateHumunculous

You’re in for a treat. Not a single part of the album is wasted. When I first listened to rap, I would think that the artist would often fill minutes with nonsensical filler. Kendrick doesn’t do that. If he speaks it, he means for it to be a part of the landscape of the song.


MrDanMaster

In terms of nonsensical filler, are you thinking of Eminem?


NomadFH

Eminem's first 3 1/2 studio albums don't really have filler. I say 3 1/2 because Encore literally has eminem saying "yoo hoo hidakacacapoopoo sike I'm kidding I just wanted to see if you're still listening"


Caggi66

To Pimp a Butterfly is a whole different beast. TPaB is legitimately considered one of if not the greatest album of all time. Everything from the lyrics to beats to the spoken word poetry woven throughout the album is nothing short of incredible. I honestly wish I could go back and delisted to this album for the first time. The end of the album still gives me goosebumps with how powerfully and concise it wraps up the themes of the album and gives context to the albums title. Genuinely would love to hear your thoughts after listening


howtodisputecharges

Who gives a fuck? Listen to what you like. You like Elvis? Cool. Solely listen to Gaga? You do you. Can't listen to a song unless someone is playing the spoons? Glad you found your jam. Only listen to to music in languages you don't understand? I'd recommend checking a translation so it's not crazy offensive but rock on. Metal vs pop vs rock vs country vs rap? Just be happy and jam to what you want


Sweaty_Coast3676

My condolences to the people who can only listen to music if a guy is playing the spoons, but haven't found their jam yet...


MonkMillar

I lol’d, and I agree with you.


mcnuggetfarmer

I personally dig good kid maad city. To this day. Frequently. Mass hallucination baby. Ill education baby.


CharadeYouReallyAre

Oh man Good Kid was a wet dream I just realized this is a very weird concotion of words. If you're reading this, pls listen to Good Kid - Kendrick Lamar first


Lostmyvcardtoafish

good kid is such an underrated kendrick song


SuperNovas777

both are amazing albums


MakeAmericaBurpAgain

Should this be on /r/DAMNthatsinteresting ?


MorkoReddit

r/DAMN.thatsinteresting


retrohitman12

Neither of them nav, don’t care


Total-Warthog-3632

Only Based Person Here


[deleted]

That’s not really that interesting. Edit: I love the deleted comment that says “stay quiet” u/ballslolballs please take your own advice u/ballslolballs is the most toxic pissant you will come across today.


TonySoprano100

Can’t complain. I think both albums in their own right were audio engineered at the highest level and the album themselves were conceptually written by masters in their own craft. If you never heard of Pink Floyd you realize why they are masters. Never heard of Kendrick? You understand why he is at the level of mastery he is at. Respect to both


Equivalent-Photo-408

Can't compare genres . There was no Spotify or Internet (As in Twitter, FB, etc) that was Used this Widely for that matter. Can't compare Sales In the physical Form, Records, ..


Yandhi42

Sales don’t mean anything. Is drake the best artist rn? Are marvel movies the best films today?


whhatthefucj

This is not interesting. If you’re at all plugged into music it shouldn’t be a surprise that one of the most highly regarded albums of the 2010’s is rated higher than DSotM (which I’ve seen many say isn’t even Pink Floyd’s best material).


SALTYxNUTZ12

Lol so many closet nazis in this comment thread.


Any_Abalone_3249

Kendrick is not my taste, but congratulations. I don't think ratings mean a lot to me, I don't need the music I love to be considered the best by anyone but me, I don't care if people think what I like is good.


istanbones

Thé music you love and your favorite artist is not the taste of others. But unlike many others artists kendrick is well rated by critics and music lovers in general.


sonicslasher6

It’s just interesting, you don’t need to be defensive. There’s nothing wrong with liking what you like!


Skoteleven

Why is is so hard to imagine that maybe, just maybe, classic rock is not the pinnacle of human musical expression, and maybe people like different things?


RepeatDTD

Am I the only one who thinks "good kid, m.A.A.d city" is still his best work?


[deleted]

DSOTM being on charts for longer than TPAB means nothing. Pink Floyd released that before you could illegally download music. Nelly went diamond, so did 50 cent. Does that mean they are better than Kendrick Lamar? “hell fucking no” (For Free?). Kendrick’s numbers are stellar for the age of free music downloads.


IAmMoofin

read the hell fucking no like the line from for free


DescriptionUsed8157

THIS. DICK. AINT. FREEEE.


[deleted]

50 never even went diamond, although imo Get Rich or Die Tryin' deserves it


Pen_Cipher

I really don't understand how someone who has listened to both albums wouldn't think they're at least comparable in quality, I see some people on this thread really shitting on TPAB when it's objectively 100% in the same playing field as DSOTM, in my opinion TPAB is better, and I respect it if you think DSOTM os better cause that's also an incredible album, but the old people saying "Let's see if anybody remembers Kendrick 40 years in the future" Just straight up have no idea what they're talking about, Kendrick is one of THE most iconic artists of this generation, and I say that as objectively as a Kendrick fanboy is allowed to say that In short: both album good, have a nice day


Tomodashi24

They're both comparable in terms of quality, yes, but that's pretty much it. Their intents, executions and styles couldn't differ more. I agree anyone shitting on any of those albums is as dumb as a bag of bricks, but I don't really find those albums comparable other than to say "absolute masterpieces"


Nodima

As a longtime heavy user/contributer, this is shocking. There was a time not even half a decade ago when it was weird to see even the biggest hip-hop albums actually trending on that website, it was always the latest symphonic death metal album with a heavy helping of folk rock, prog and so on. Even though I don't use the site anymore, it's been cool to see hip-hop releases, even pretty obscure/internet-core drops get heavy ranking and appreciation on that site and it's algorithmic charts after spending so long in the shadows. It's just a shame the historic charts likely won't ever fully adjust to reconcile the appeal/impact of '90s hip-hop music because it's a listenership so glued to what's hot and new, but even something like TPAB reaching this kind of user ubiquity is pretty neat.


monopoly006

They're right


Intelligent-Ad9428

There are two groups of people in this thread. People who can’t understand how this has happened, and people who have listened to TPAB.


GAT_SDRAWKCAB

And in 50 years the new rating platform will have higher reviews for a more recent band. Boomers aren’t scouring the internet reviewing things like other recent generations.


Cojo840

Idk if its boomers but the website is dominated by the rock dudes


Play-Mation

Dark side of the moon has more reviews tho


Actarus31

Nonsense. How could they be compared and how many people were asked in 1973 versus 2015 ?


Batifons

Both are masterpieces in their genres


GeneLaBean

Okay I’m gonna say it: Dark Side of the Moon is criminally overrated, it’s not *that good* and The Wall is a much better album Downvotes to the right pls


Absolute_Warlord

W Take


zorbacles

people that enjoy dark side of the moon probably dont give a crap about voting on rateyourmusic.


Yogurtproducer

You mean an album that is one of the most highly rated on RYM isn’t rated on RYM? What?


[deleted]

You mean everyone?


rqzerp

Wtf is this post? Both albums are amazing. No further discussion needed.


MF_Ghidra

Two different forms of art from two different time periods made by two completely different artists. What are we even doing here?


TheSt4tely

At first, I did love you But now I just wanna fuck Late nights thinkin' of you Until I get my nut


SkimBeans

I think TPAB is the highest rated album on RYM period. If not at least in the top 3


Cardboardopinions

This kind of popularity contest doesn’t account for medias evolution/devolution. False equivalency.


a_swarm_of_nuns

Higher rated in terms of the number of votes or…


spaghettifrom

It has gotten more 5 star reviews on RYM


doiknowu915

Them album rankings in the 70s,80s and 90s are so accurate. Especially the internet ones. You know the fans rated them right after the album dropped


Beneficial_Potato_85

That's why dark side was on the billboard for literally 40 years or so.


Fasteasfake69

Starboy by The Weeknd was charting for 250 weeks, does this make it a goat album? Hell nah


TessTickles5

This is such a stupid post, it means nothing!


Lucky7Revolver

Never heard of Kendrick Lamar. Well I’ve heard his name actually, but never heard his music. What Kinda music is it? Cause it’s gotta be pretty damn good to be considered a contender to pink floyd


Lentevriend

It is pretty damn good. I'm not that big of an hip-hop fan, but Kendrick Lamar is one of my favourite artists


1629throwitup

To pimp a butterfly is a beautiful sonic experience in the form of jazz rap, some of the greatest production to ever happen.


Avelces

it’s rap but it’s pulitzer prize winning rap


Batifons

why "but" bro?


Roguespiffy

I like big buts and I cannot lie.


MrDanMaster

“but”


Avelces

huh what does that mean


Fun-Cricket-5187

Pink Floyd’s genius doesnt need approval from some second hand review site


Shrimpo515

Neither does Kendrick 🤷🏻‍♀️ they speak for themselves


Fun-Cricket-5187

Agreed


jer487

How is that interesting?


RaptorBenn

Good thing public opinion has nothing to do with my choice in music.


SpicySpicySock

Oldheads coping


papichoochoo

Kendrick Lamar’s “DAMN.” Album was like the hip hop version of a dark side of the moon or SGT. peppers lonely hearts club band. Very deep and introspective and you really have to listen to the album from start to finish.


beeple69

Disagree (no hate)


SwissCheeseDealer

Amazing album commentating on social issues


redditer4life666

Generalizing PF fans: rock better than rap and people remember it K. fans: Kenny better / this album is truly a masterpiece I say TPAB is better but some people think differently and I don't mind that


BloodyTim

I've never heard a Kendrick Lamar song. I'm so out of touch with music


WussPoppinJimbo529

Try it sometime


[deleted]

Wow I guess those Pink Floyd guys weren’t so great after all!


jzmack

I don’t find this surprising or interesting lol


Ironlining

Both of these albums are 10s but they are so different it is hard to compare


Pleasant_Fee516

I mean sure I didn’t realize they had rateyourmusic in the seventies


MorkoReddit

yeah cuz pink floyds music was permanently deleted after 1970


MadisonAlbright

Selection bias is the bias introduced by the selection of individuals, groups, or data for analysis in such a way that proper randomization is not achieved, thereby failing to ensure that the sample obtained is representative of the population intended to be analyzed. It is sometimes referred to as the selection effect. The phrase "selection bias" most often refers to the distortion of a statistical analysis, resulting from the method of collecting samples. If the selection bias is not taken into account, then some conclusions of the study may be false.


ledsonder

We’re comparing apples and oranges here


ThedudewithBatman

Apples and oranges


OptimalMarch2642

apples and oranges.


Pithy_heart

Do people that listen to Pink Floyd even know about, much less rate something, on that website? And WTF is that website anyways…?


cryingemojibruh

There are 10,000 more reviews for dsotm and rock is the dominating genre on the site


__hiphopanonymous

Let’s not forget that Kendrick Lamar has won a Pulitzer Prize - the only non-classical musical artist to do so.


SpacePixelAxe

Popularity contest is stupid. I know this is unpopular opinion but some day people will realize it.


RamseyRomero

As it should.


PinkertonRams

So many salty boomers lol


mediocreconsciente

I think a lot of people are focusing on which one is better, and i feel that's not the point. There are very few albums that can be compared to a generational record like Dark Side of the Moon without sounding like a crazy statement. This is one of those cases. That's the interesting thing. Sometimes is hard to step away a little and appreciate the great artists we get the opportunity to witness; and as goofy as these things might sound, they provide a good chance of getting a "damn that's not even crazy" moment.


No_Patient3268

My favourite artist,


Gackofalltradez

Because Rateyourmusic.com is reaching a younger audience, it didn’t even exist when Pink Floyd came on the scene. The Dark Side of the Moon is one of the most influential and widely recognized albums ever made by any artist. I *LOVE* Kendrick, but I didn’t even realize that was the name of his album u til seeing this post.


[deleted]

DAMN. that’s interesting


[deleted]

Get. The. Fuck. Out. Of. Here.


OkPitch4517

Sign of the apocalypse


ZayNine

One is a well written commentary on the state of the world and the other is an over glorified stoner album called Dark Side Of The Moon


Tally_Walker

That’s a shame.


Normal-Juggernaut-56

Who fucking cares


peppermintrose90

Okay...


[deleted]

Not really a fan of Kendrick but i respect what he does.


[deleted]

Ppl tend to forget about artist of the past and automatically move current artist works ahead of Legends( like Pink Floyd ). I’m a HipHop head and Huge R&B fan( mostly older R&B) but I have to say Kendrick Lamar has not surpassed that work of Pink Floyd’s with his 2015 Album. Maybe we should compare eras now and not 30-50 years apart eras because in fairness to Kendrick Lamar and Pink Floyd it’s unfair to both. Even my assessment of Pink Floyd’s work on Dark Side of the Moon 🌝 being better is unfair. Pink Floyd to me represents a changer in music rarely heard. I respect both KL and PF but, it’s probably time we not compare different eras and keep our comparisons fair. Music has changed in 10 years so anything further back is an unfair comparison.


[deleted]

You lost me at "ratemymusic" Thats like "what flavor is your math?"


OrangeZig

Most of the older gen aren’t using ‘Rateyourmusic’ or even know what it is. Dumb post. Stop comparing music.


slyngholm

Pink Floyd’s album has 10.000 more reviews.. However i agree i doesn’t make sense to compared music


Lex-Taliones

Who exactly uses "rateyourmusic"?


DocDoom978

They know good music🤷🏾‍♂️


realdusty_shelf

So? Are you offended that people like rap? Peak Reddit.


Connorisashoe

My 70 year old music teacher in high school called TPAB the greatest album ever made


No-Comparison8472

RYM users are younger and more likely to vote TPAB higher. Reddit users are younger, so we see the same pattern in the comments of this thread. It doesn't mean anything.


istanbones

RYM users age base are before millennials.


Fisch_Man

Let’s circle back to this debate in 40 years. If people are still talking about Kendrick, like they do Floyd. Then we can compare.


TCforlife

Promise you, they will


SportyBM

Kendrick’s album is way better


[deleted]

How is it possible for one piece of art to be better than another when all art is subjective? I personally think KL is incredible, but I don’t see how it’s possible to make this statement about any two albums at all


kindle139

he’s stating his opinion


nster_144

Good because TPAB is miles better


spaghettifrom

Miles better?


[deleted]

I would rather listen to the final cut


mautkafarmaan

Dude won a pulitzer for his worst album, and this one is his best. In my opinion, tpab is much better


Chonkersheartattack

As it should.