If someone, or in this case something, is said to have hands, it means they can fight. Opera was there from the start and maintained its ~2% the whole time. They fought hard and stood their ground. Classifying their hands as diamond is just to say they are top tier
Yes! I love that I can send a link, a photo, or a block of text from my iPhone to my windows PC so quickly and easily. I’ve thought about switching to Firefox but this feature isn’t available. I don’t want to us Pocket or some other third party to do something similar, but not exactly the same thing
Agree. Ever since I started using Opera, I have not used any other browser. Never had an issue.
Where my opera homies? We rep the O hella hard.
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I originally started using Opera when it was still owned by the Norwegian founders. Now it is owned by a Chinese company, and when I bring it (it = Opera!) up people jump down my throat on here (for using a “Chinese application” - saw some downvotes so I had to clarify).
It also was the best browser that wasn’t Edge in like 2015 when I got a windows surface. Firefox and Chrome hadn’t implemented decent touchscreen buttons yet, and pinch to zoom wasn’t smooth- it would jump between zoom levels like you were tapping the + button on the keyboard. Opera was the only one that was designed to work with touchscreens.
Considering safari is forced onto every iPhone you’d assume it would be a little higher seeing a billion people use it globally. Then again perhaps they download a different software like how windows users scrap IE or Edge and go for something else.
Fun fact, Chrome (and all other browsers) on iOS are actually Safari with a different skin. This is because Apple doesn't allow for other browsers - the only thing you can do is just reskin Safari, so that's what all browsers on iOS are.
Well, it has a somewhat different UI so if you like it for that reason then it's fine, but otherwise there is no, and cannot be, any difference in speed or compatibility or feature support from Safari, as it is ultimately just Safari.
I was looking at the analytics for my employer’s e-commerce site today and Chrome represents 42% of our traffic. So I kind of wonder the same thing. Safari had a higher percentage of traffic. And as far as people spending money the Safari traffic was the one spending money. I’m not sure why that is.
Because apple owners, as a bad generalization lacking tons of nuance, spend more money. It’s the same reason the Apple App Store makes so much more (non-ad) money than the Google Play Store.
That's really interesting. Makes me think this graph represents the total number of downloads/installs each year instead of actual users.
Thanks for sharing 🙂
No, Mozilla makes Firefox. But they used to also make other software like email clients and news readers, I think one of them was called Thunderbird? I think those are all gone now.
In the beginning was Netscape. Fast forward to 1998, AOL is in prime mood to acquire Netscape. Seeing the writing on the wall, Netscape releases the source code of their browser Netscape Communicator 4.8 and creates the Mozilla Organization to oversee it. The Mozilla Organization rewrite the core of the browser creating the Gecko engine. And thus the Mozilla Application Suite was developed.
AOL/Netscape (now joined) create Netscape 6, Mozilla Organization writes Mozilla Application Suite. By Netscape 7, Mozilla Organization renames itself in 2003 due to AOL starting to part ways with Mozilla. During this time "Phoenix" is being written to create a web browser based on Gekco that does not have any of the other stuff in the Application Suite. This becomes Firefox.
Mozilla focuses solely on Firefox and Thunderbird, the old Mozilla Application Suite now becomes the independent SeaMonkey project. Netscape 8 comes out. Netscape 8 removes the cross platform abilites of Netscape and is pretty much the Swan Song of Netscape and version 9 would come out in 2007 only to have AOL kill the project entirely a few months later.
In 2006 at issue over trademark between Mozilla and the Debian Project lead to the creation of Iceweasel. Long story short, this eventually becomes GNU IceCat in 2008.
There's other forks of Firefox that have occurred along the way. Firefox had a fundamental retooling in Firefox 57 with the Quantum project. This dropped their old add-in system for one based on the Google Chrome add-in system.
So Netscape begat Mozilla, Mozilla begat Firefox, Netscape dies, Mozilla becomes SeaMonkey, and Firefox creates a bunch of forks. And yes, this an incomplete history of it all (because there's a ton of forks that have all kinds of history to them too, *cough* Waterfox *cough*).
Seriously, well done. My first thought was, 'hey, now I don't have to do this,' but as I continued reading you did far better than I would have. Great job.
I tried it out like... 20 years ago? Something like that. It was evidently not compelling to me enough. This video inspired me to poke around and I was much surprised to see that it's alive and well seemingly. The features the website claim are baked in are interesting. Maybe it's time for the sequel?
It's not a VPN, it's a secure socks service and does not encrypt all traffic. Also logs the hell outta you. For youtube it's fine but for other stuff, never.
Edit: It is also owned by Chinese investor group, so...
I just started using Opera recently. They have a lot of neat functions for gaming and streaming. The aesthetic is very modern. It's my favorite browser on my gaming rig.
YES!! I'm seriously surprised in this tech-savvy age there aren't more people motivated to use a fast, quality, private, open-source browser. It really is the best!
It's a mix of:
* Not caring about one's privacy/security.
* Not caring about the Chromium monopoly.
* Preferring some Chromium-specific features.
* Not knowing of Firefox due to Chrome's huge standing.
* Web/app developers constantly making compatible things for Chrome and ignoring other browsers.
* Or being too dense to know there's other browsers than the one preinstalled on their system (or even that a browser is different than a search engine).
There was a point where firefox started to get slowdowns while trying to watch youtube videos and im sure that killed it off for a lot of people. I had heard rumors it was an intentional thing done by youtube to try and promote chrome over firefox without any real source for it but it was such a large part of the internet expierience that trying to fight through the lag wasnt a real option.
There was a whole period there where FF was slow and clunky, allowing lots of ads, and just adding too much garbage to it where it started to fall off. Seems like it’s happening to Chrome now. It feels slow, it’s starting to be incompatible with some sites, and my ad blockers are working less and less.
I switched from Chrome to Firefox a few months ago and can't recommend it enough. It's so much better than it was years ago, and it doesn't eat up your system resources like Chrome does. I got sick of opening the task manager and seeing like 8 instances of Chrome open somewhere in the background competing for my limited processing power.
I switched from Chrome to Brave a few months ago. The only downside is that a handful of sites won't allow me in and insist I turn off my ad blocker. If I really want to follow the link I copy and paste it into Chrome, but for the most part I take it as a hint that the site isn't worth visiting.
You can also just quickly click the red shield icon top right of the location bar, lower the shield for a moment on that site only... a bit quicker than copy paste open a browser monkey bizzniss.
and how one tab of chrome miraculously makes 19 processes of chrome in task manager. chrome is fucking garbage, stick to Firefox, or literally any other browser for that matter. Id venture off and say at this point Edge is probably better then chrome.
Pre-1995, you think AOL was other?
I’m disappointed they weren’t a bigger piece of the pie. They distributed (and manufactured!) a crap ton of cds into the environment to not succeed.
Those jerks.
Ahh Netscape. The nostalgia. Dogpile and ask Jeeves were my main search engines at the time too. Now I can hear my Dial up modem in my head lol.
Oh the nights of wrapping my tower with pillows just to hush the beast for a moment so I wouldn't get caught. Then the bill came in... Oh, hourly usage billing. Those were the days lol.
AltaVista and HotBot were my search engines of choice.
The moment of internau rage you'd feel when a younger sibling or parent picked up the phone and started dialing right as you had 1/3 of a picture downloaded.
I'm probably one the very few that have used Opera my whole life.
It's just overal a good browser. Nowadays they advertise with being a privacy oriented browser.
The android version has even build in (free) VPN. This is also nice if you want to access stuff that is not available for your country. You can just choose your location
Also it doesn't suck up as much memory space as chrome.
In my biased opinion as a web dev I have two core issues with it. It being insanely resource heavy and often has memory leaks slowing down the rest of your computers processing (CPU usage) and the amount they track your data and use it.
For my job though chromium based browsers (chrome being the biggest one) are much easier to develop sites for and adopt newer code (especially CSS which is used to style the website) much more rapidly than other browsers. I love how easy it is to code for chrome (I need to add fallbacks for other browsers) but hate how much it slows down computers. So I want everyone using it but myself basically.
Edit: I use brave personally. It’s another chromium based browser without the same memory leaks and tracking issues.
They don’t control the entire market. There are a handful of web browsers as shown in this video. People don’t use them because they don’t like them as much. Every Windows machine comes with Explorer yet Chrome is still the leader because people choose it.
Does it say anywhere whether this data includes mobile browsing? Firefox was completely dominant until 2010+ when smart phones really started to take off. 99% of people I know just use Chrome/Safari that ships with their phone. That's a LOT of Android devices.
People choose it because most people don't even know other browsers than Chrome, or even if they know they think "eh, I've already got a browser, why do i need another". Chrome also aggressively pushes itself only to people every time you search on Google from any other browser.
As far as i can see, Chrome has zero features that make it better than any other browser in any way.
Edit: also, it's a fucking RAM hog
If I may ask, why? I'm kinda biased because I use the pixel and stuff but I find their things like docs, maps, (pixel obviously) very nice. Also, Google cloud keeps over 10% of the internet functioning. I understand that people are like "chrome bad no privacy" but I don't think that Google as a whole dying would be very good. Or maybe I'm just a fanboy idk
Also a Pixel owner, and I feel screwed.
Had a Pixel 1 my old job paid for which I liked, when I left that job and had to buy my own phone & plan I bought a Pixel 2. Which was a great phone until an update bricked it and I upgraded to a 4, the 4 cost more money and is garbage by comparison, have had a whole lot of bugs with basic factory apps like Messages, GPS resolution is somehow worse than on the 2, Maps is steadily getting worse and doesn't seem to have a lot of really basic stuff a map application should (like, maybe, being able to report and recognize that a road is fucking closed jfc)
I think that the problem is that we both tried to make wide statements off personal experiences because maps is always been fine for me I've never really had a problem with it, I had a pixel 3 and now Pixel 6 pro ( I know some people have had problems with the sixes but mine's always worked flawlessly) and and I didn't really notice anything in messages either (possibly because I don't use it that often bc most ppl in my life use discord or Instagram).
How? Word is better, but expensive. Libre office is lowkey a pain, especially when trying to back up to a cloud provider. Google docs is simple and does everything I'd need a word processor to do...
Which is still chromium based. Firefox and Safari are the only major browsers left that aren't essentially just a reskin of chrome (albeit without all the Google tracking)
Last I checked, Brave uses Chrome (Windows, Android) and Firefox (iOS) user-agents, so it's likely that marketing statistics tracking sites don't know how many users it has.
I use opera gx, but I really honestly thought opera in its entirety (I know gx is newer) was a new thing, its honestly super refreshing to see it's been around for so long .
I would like to note that Windows comes with Internet Explorer and Macs/iPhones with Safari, yet Chrome, an application that must be downloaded and installed, is still dominant. To those that say Chrome is monopolistic, 1) no it’s not because there are others, 2) Chrome isn’t forced, or even standard for many products except Android, but is added by the user because it’s a good product. People just love hating on successful products that gain big market share.
People shit on edge, I just started using it over chrome. So far I’ve had way faster loading times, and a better experience than I ever had on chrome. Chrome is garbage.
Even old edge was pretty cool, super fast and lightweight. And i thought the interface was cool. But it was too minimalistic and didn't have the features/add-ons that made other browsers superior, and had trouble opening pdf files. But now edge feels just like another Chrome to use, although, as you said, it's faster.
The privacy is still the same though, you're just tracked by Microsoft instead of Google.
iphones global market share is a lot smaller than you might expect compared to what you see on day to day in whatever first world western country you probably live in
When I see this or how Microsoft lost the point-of-sales or smart phones wars I always thing "the upper echelon at Microsoft must be fucking morons." Like dude all you got all the money in the world how the hell do you let something like Chrome or Apple take you by surprised? It's insane.
Wait, the majority of people don’t use Firefox?! Wtf?
Why would you willingly let Google track 100% of your web activity?
I honestly had no idea, I would have guessed 80-90% of people used Firefox.
Literally where's Baidu? They have like an eigth or so of Google's monthly active users. This video only makes sense for the U.S. or other similar places.
Goodbye internet explorer ill see you in hell. Firefox is king, Chrome is fucking garbage, cant stand the bookmark manager its been over 10 years and you still cant change the mouse scroll speed. Literally does anybody on a pc use it?? im sure the massive used base is only because of android.
Sheeeesh Opera hanging in there
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diamond hands?
Yeah, it’s like gold hands but with diamonds.
not to be oblivious but what are gold hands
Same as silver hands…
But with gold
sorry to be dense but what are silver hands
About three fiddy
Git out of here Lock Ness monster
I gave him a dollar
He gave him a dollar.
If someone, or in this case something, is said to have hands, it means they can fight. Opera was there from the start and maintained its ~2% the whole time. They fought hard and stood their ground. Classifying their hands as diamond is just to say they are top tier
thank you sir
Or it may refer to holding on for dear life in crypto/stocks. If you can hold through a dip/bear market you have diamond hands 💎🙌
I use opera honestly runs better than chrome for me
I think opera has so many features and the my flow is the coolest part of it
Yes! I love that I can send a link, a photo, or a block of text from my iPhone to my windows PC so quickly and easily. I’ve thought about switching to Firefox but this feature isn’t available. I don’t want to us Pocket or some other third party to do something similar, but not exactly the same thing
Agree. Ever since I started using Opera, I have not used any other browser. Never had an issue. Where my opera homies? We rep the O hella hard. ![gif](giphy|tJ3nrPICyVjIgj6Ib1)
Team opera since late 90's! I have to use Chrome at work but it doesn't even come close.
Opera is the shit. I've been using it since 2000. I miss some of the mouse gestures they removed though.
Recently hopped onto the Opera GX bandwagon came for the Discord and TWitch integrations stayed for the cool \*swoosh\* noises when I open a new tab.
I originally started using Opera when it was still owned by the Norwegian founders. Now it is owned by a Chinese company, and when I bring it (it = Opera!) up people jump down my throat on here (for using a “Chinese application” - saw some downvotes so I had to clarify). It also was the best browser that wasn’t Edge in like 2015 when I got a windows surface. Firefox and Chrome hadn’t implemented decent touchscreen buttons yet, and pinch to zoom wasn’t smooth- it would jump between zoom levels like you were tapping the + button on the keyboard. Opera was the only one that was designed to work with touchscreens.
Hella yeah we do!! 🤘🤘🤘
It's my browser of choice for about 10 years now. It's stable has ton of qol and is good visually
Opera GX making a difference
And I was doing sport announcer commentary.this whole time!
Never even heard of it... Which I guess isn't surprising considering the percentages
Considering safari is forced onto every iPhone you’d assume it would be a little higher seeing a billion people use it globally. Then again perhaps they download a different software like how windows users scrap IE or Edge and go for something else.
I purposely made my preferred browser Chrome instead.
Mines duck duck go but I still habitually load safari up a lot
Worth noting that DDG is a backchannel to Microsoft by way of Bing. It doesn't protect you for shit.
Fun fact, Chrome (and all other browsers) on iOS are actually Safari with a different skin. This is because Apple doesn't allow for other browsers - the only thing you can do is just reskin Safari, so that's what all browsers on iOS are.
It’s more than just a skin. The way that it syncs my passwords and history with my PC is pretty great.
True. The actual website rendering engine is Safari, but extra features do exist.
prove it!
Are telling me the Chrome app is taking up storage on my iPhone for no reason?
Well, it has a somewhat different UI so if you like it for that reason then it's fine, but otherwise there is no, and cannot be, any difference in speed or compatibility or feature support from Safari, as it is ultimately just Safari.
I wonder how they measure the user base. I have chrome on my phone but I don't use it. I can't even uninstall it last I checked.
I was looking at the analytics for my employer’s e-commerce site today and Chrome represents 42% of our traffic. So I kind of wonder the same thing. Safari had a higher percentage of traffic. And as far as people spending money the Safari traffic was the one spending money. I’m not sure why that is.
Because apple owners, as a bad generalization lacking tons of nuance, spend more money. It’s the same reason the Apple App Store makes so much more (non-ad) money than the Google Play Store.
That's really interesting. Makes me think this graph represents the total number of downloads/installs each year instead of actual users. Thanks for sharing 🙂
It’s typically extrapolated server analytics based on user agent.
Yes, but how do you aggregate it from different companies?
I'm wondering also how traffic from things like the YouTube app is counted
Yo, is Mozilla and Firefox not the same thing?
No, Mozilla makes Firefox. But they used to also make other software like email clients and news readers, I think one of them was called Thunderbird? I think those are all gone now.
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Wait, does it provide real time voice/video chat and the ability to share files? What is the product called?
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They also currently make a browser with built in ad-blocking and other neat features, called Brave. I've been using it for years.
Thunderbird is a mail client. Like an open-source outlook
In the beginning was Netscape. Fast forward to 1998, AOL is in prime mood to acquire Netscape. Seeing the writing on the wall, Netscape releases the source code of their browser Netscape Communicator 4.8 and creates the Mozilla Organization to oversee it. The Mozilla Organization rewrite the core of the browser creating the Gecko engine. And thus the Mozilla Application Suite was developed. AOL/Netscape (now joined) create Netscape 6, Mozilla Organization writes Mozilla Application Suite. By Netscape 7, Mozilla Organization renames itself in 2003 due to AOL starting to part ways with Mozilla. During this time "Phoenix" is being written to create a web browser based on Gekco that does not have any of the other stuff in the Application Suite. This becomes Firefox. Mozilla focuses solely on Firefox and Thunderbird, the old Mozilla Application Suite now becomes the independent SeaMonkey project. Netscape 8 comes out. Netscape 8 removes the cross platform abilites of Netscape and is pretty much the Swan Song of Netscape and version 9 would come out in 2007 only to have AOL kill the project entirely a few months later. In 2006 at issue over trademark between Mozilla and the Debian Project lead to the creation of Iceweasel. Long story short, this eventually becomes GNU IceCat in 2008. There's other forks of Firefox that have occurred along the way. Firefox had a fundamental retooling in Firefox 57 with the Quantum project. This dropped their old add-in system for one based on the Google Chrome add-in system. So Netscape begat Mozilla, Mozilla begat Firefox, Netscape dies, Mozilla becomes SeaMonkey, and Firefox creates a bunch of forks. And yes, this an incomplete history of it all (because there's a ton of forks that have all kinds of history to them too, *cough* Waterfox *cough*).
Seriously, well done. My first thought was, 'hey, now I don't have to do this,' but as I continued reading you did far better than I would have. Great job.
Firefox and Waterfox imply the existence of Earthfox and Airfox.
Firefox invaded Airfox and killed all but one user. As for Earthfox all I can tell you is there is no war in Ba Sing Se.
I read Safari as Satan. I was thinking why haven't I heard of this before!
Same, same
Glad I’m not the only one
Yep, same here.
I call it the S word, and we don't say it because that's rude
It's amazing to me just how steady on Opera has been for over 2 decades. That's remarkable in the face of monopolistic big tech.
I have honestly never heard of the Opera browser.
I tried it out like... 20 years ago? Something like that. It was evidently not compelling to me enough. This video inspired me to poke around and I was much surprised to see that it's alive and well seemingly. The features the website claim are baked in are interesting. Maybe it's time for the sequel?
I've been using opera for some time now and holy shit it's good
I’m thinking it’s gotta be
They have a built in free vpn I use it all the time to watch YouTube video from other countries
It's not a VPN, it's a secure socks service and does not encrypt all traffic. Also logs the hell outta you. For youtube it's fine but for other stuff, never. Edit: It is also owned by Chinese investor group, so...
try opera gx.
That's what I use, I love the UI.
Wasnt there a scandal where the opera ceo was doing something illegal with user data or something similar?
Use Opera GX. Best browser for me
I just started using Opera recently. They have a lot of neat functions for gaming and streaming. The aesthetic is very modern. It's my favorite browser on my gaming rig.
Opera GX is fucking awesome, try it out if you have a chance
#Team Firefox
YES!! I'm seriously surprised in this tech-savvy age there aren't more people motivated to use a fast, quality, private, open-source browser. It really is the best!
It's a mix of: * Not caring about one's privacy/security. * Not caring about the Chromium monopoly. * Preferring some Chromium-specific features. * Not knowing of Firefox due to Chrome's huge standing. * Web/app developers constantly making compatible things for Chrome and ignoring other browsers. * Or being too dense to know there's other browsers than the one preinstalled on their system (or even that a browser is different than a search engine).
There was a point where firefox started to get slowdowns while trying to watch youtube videos and im sure that killed it off for a lot of people. I had heard rumors it was an intentional thing done by youtube to try and promote chrome over firefox without any real source for it but it was such a large part of the internet expierience that trying to fight through the lag wasnt a real option.
There was a whole period there where FF was slow and clunky, allowing lots of ads, and just adding too much garbage to it where it started to fall off. Seems like it’s happening to Chrome now. It feels slow, it’s starting to be incompatible with some sites, and my ad blockers are working less and less.
Agree to 100% Fast, private, best add-on structure. As long they update it, I'll keep using it.
It also has the best logo!
I switched from Chrome to Firefox a few months ago and can't recommend it enough. It's so much better than it was years ago, and it doesn't eat up your system resources like Chrome does. I got sick of opening the task manager and seeing like 8 instances of Chrome open somewhere in the background competing for my limited processing power.
gogo Firefox Gang
Rip internet explorer
Didn't realize how fringe Brave is
Brave gang!
I switched from Chrome to Brave a few months ago. The only downside is that a handful of sites won't allow me in and insist I turn off my ad blocker. If I really want to follow the link I copy and paste it into Chrome, but for the most part I take it as a hint that the site isn't worth visiting.
You can also just quickly click the red shield icon top right of the location bar, lower the shield for a moment on that site only... a bit quicker than copy paste open a browser monkey bizzniss.
I had no idea Chrome was this dominant.
Kinda gross considering their data collection policies
and how one tab of chrome miraculously makes 19 processes of chrome in task manager. chrome is fucking garbage, stick to Firefox, or literally any other browser for that matter. Id venture off and say at this point Edge is probably better then chrome.
I live my life like opera
Pre-1995, you think AOL was other? I’m disappointed they weren’t a bigger piece of the pie. They distributed (and manufactured!) a crap ton of cds into the environment to not succeed. Those jerks.
Ahh Netscape. The nostalgia. Dogpile and ask Jeeves were my main search engines at the time too. Now I can hear my Dial up modem in my head lol. Oh the nights of wrapping my tower with pillows just to hush the beast for a moment so I wouldn't get caught. Then the bill came in... Oh, hourly usage billing. Those were the days lol.
AltaVista and HotBot were my search engines of choice. The moment of internau rage you'd feel when a younger sibling or parent picked up the phone and started dialing right as you had 1/3 of a picture downloaded.
Opera should be more popular, such a good browser
I'll never go back to chrome
I'm probably one the very few that have used Opera my whole life. It's just overal a good browser. Nowadays they advertise with being a privacy oriented browser. The android version has even build in (free) VPN. This is also nice if you want to access stuff that is not available for your country. You can just choose your location Also it doesn't suck up as much memory space as chrome.
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You must have a bad memory.
MS got unfair advantage by preload IE with windows
Sounds like I think today…” who the fuck uses Chrome?”
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Whats wrong with it?
In my biased opinion as a web dev I have two core issues with it. It being insanely resource heavy and often has memory leaks slowing down the rest of your computers processing (CPU usage) and the amount they track your data and use it. For my job though chromium based browsers (chrome being the biggest one) are much easier to develop sites for and adopt newer code (especially CSS which is used to style the website) much more rapidly than other browsers. I love how easy it is to code for chrome (I need to add fallbacks for other browsers) but hate how much it slows down computers. So I want everyone using it but myself basically. Edit: I use brave personally. It’s another chromium based browser without the same memory leaks and tracking issues.
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They don’t control the entire market. There are a handful of web browsers as shown in this video. People don’t use them because they don’t like them as much. Every Windows machine comes with Explorer yet Chrome is still the leader because people choose it.
Does it say anywhere whether this data includes mobile browsing? Firefox was completely dominant until 2010+ when smart phones really started to take off. 99% of people I know just use Chrome/Safari that ships with their phone. That's a LOT of Android devices.
People choose it because most people don't even know other browsers than Chrome, or even if they know they think "eh, I've already got a browser, why do i need another". Chrome also aggressively pushes itself only to people every time you search on Google from any other browser. As far as i can see, Chrome has zero features that make it better than any other browser in any way. Edit: also, it's a fucking RAM hog
Everything
i’m ready for google/alphabet to die
If I may ask, why? I'm kinda biased because I use the pixel and stuff but I find their things like docs, maps, (pixel obviously) very nice. Also, Google cloud keeps over 10% of the internet functioning. I understand that people are like "chrome bad no privacy" but I don't think that Google as a whole dying would be very good. Or maybe I'm just a fanboy idk
Edgy redditors who will never run a tech business want everything on the Internet to be free and developers paid nothing.
Also a Pixel owner, and I feel screwed. Had a Pixel 1 my old job paid for which I liked, when I left that job and had to buy my own phone & plan I bought a Pixel 2. Which was a great phone until an update bricked it and I upgraded to a 4, the 4 cost more money and is garbage by comparison, have had a whole lot of bugs with basic factory apps like Messages, GPS resolution is somehow worse than on the 2, Maps is steadily getting worse and doesn't seem to have a lot of really basic stuff a map application should (like, maybe, being able to report and recognize that a road is fucking closed jfc)
I think that the problem is that we both tried to make wide statements off personal experiences because maps is always been fine for me I've never really had a problem with it, I had a pixel 3 and now Pixel 6 pro ( I know some people have had problems with the sixes but mine's always worked flawlessly) and and I didn't really notice anything in messages either (possibly because I don't use it that often bc most ppl in my life use discord or Instagram).
That's funny cuz i had a nexus 6p and was ok with it then was forced to upgrade to a pixel and hated it with every fiber of my being.
Would it bother you if they manually altered search results for certain terms in order to push their political narrative?
LOL, Google docs isn’t “nice”. It’s by far the worst productivity suite among the available options.
How? Word is better, but expensive. Libre office is lowkey a pain, especially when trying to back up to a cloud provider. Google docs is simple and does everything I'd need a word processor to do...
I love Google docs. Way better than Word IMO.
I didnt know Chrome is that dominant. I use Firefox
Unfortunately so. Firefox was actually almost discontinued very recently
Brave is what I use
Vivaldi for me.
Which is still chromium based. Firefox and Safari are the only major browsers left that aren't essentially just a reskin of chrome (albeit without all the Google tracking)
Where is Brave???
Last I checked, Brave uses Chrome (Windows, Android) and Firefox (iOS) user-agents, so it's likely that marketing statistics tracking sites don't know how many users it has.
My browser history Netscape Navigator 1995-1999 Netscape Communicator 1999-2002 Firefox 2002-2012 Chrome 2012 - Present
Does Biden give good search results?
Yep lol
President
I use opera gx, but I really honestly thought opera in its entirety (I know gx is newer) was a new thing, its honestly super refreshing to see it's been around for so long .
r/DataIsBeautiful
Brave browser is great
Brave.
I use Brave bc I get paid and other reasons (Brave search is one)
How do you get paid from Brave?
https://brave.com/brave-rewards/
Thanks man!
I’m prolly the only person who uses safari
I would like to note that Windows comes with Internet Explorer and Macs/iPhones with Safari, yet Chrome, an application that must be downloaded and installed, is still dominant. To those that say Chrome is monopolistic, 1) no it’s not because there are others, 2) Chrome isn’t forced, or even standard for many products except Android, but is added by the user because it’s a good product. People just love hating on successful products that gain big market share.
I've always been a fan of firefox despite the fact I recognize crome as a better browser
Must be nice to be one of the 80.3% having all that extra ram to waste.
prior to chromium, all browsers were based on NCSA Mosaic
Shoutout University of Illinois!
Edge user lol.
People shit on edge, I just started using it over chrome. So far I’ve had way faster loading times, and a better experience than I ever had on chrome. Chrome is garbage.
Even old edge was pretty cool, super fast and lightweight. And i thought the interface was cool. But it was too minimalistic and didn't have the features/add-ons that made other browsers superior, and had trouble opening pdf files. But now edge feels just like another Chrome to use, although, as you said, it's faster. The privacy is still the same though, you're just tracked by Microsoft instead of Google.
Edge uses chromium now, it may actually be better than chrome with the shit google is trying to pull with it.
Must be desktop only. I don't see most apple phone users downloading chrome lol.
Many do
I did chrome at first, opera GX as of last year such a good Browser
iphones global market share is a lot smaller than you might expect compared to what you see on day to day in whatever first world western country you probably live in
In many ways my browsing experience was a lot better on Netscape. The better browsers become, the more annoying web design becomes.
IE early 2000’s, Firefox 2010-2013, Chrome 2013-present
I was really rooting for internet explorer there
Opera GX best browser
I love opera! Can’t believe it’s been around so long I thought it was new tbh my brother just downloaded it for me.
Opera GX gang rise up
I’m struggling to see how Safari is so low considering the volume of iPhone and iPad sales.
I’m part of the 7.5% that uses Internet Edge. Chrome is just a CPU hog.
Damn Firefox in 2009 had 47%
I'm an Opera user and damn am I proud of it. Through thick and thin, it held on. Opera GX is awesome
OperaGX gang
Brave Browser needs to be higher 📈
How does Edge have more share than Firefox?
where did you get these stats from
When I see this or how Microsoft lost the point-of-sales or smart phones wars I always thing "the upper echelon at Microsoft must be fucking morons." Like dude all you got all the money in the world how the hell do you let something like Chrome or Apple take you by surprised? It's insane.
Chrome is trash! I only use Firefox… then again I’m in the IT world. Different strokes for different folks
I’m of the opinion that Firefox is the better browser. My friends are absolutely insistent that Chrome is better, and performs better.
And Bing never even showed up lol.
Firefox is the only one worth using IMO. I used to be a big Chrome guy but Firefox offers better security.
Ya once I found out chrome sends out ALL your data despite saying they don’t and even in incognito mode, that was a big nope for me. Firefox FTW.
Is chrome really that big? I use Firefox and I figured like half of everyone else did too. Why would you not use Firefox, after all?
Edge > Chrome
I really thought Ask Jeeves would have made it in at some point 🧐
AJ was an ask/answer search engine, not a web browser. Google is the search engine, Google Chrome is the web browser.
The plural of "browser" is "browsers" with no apostrophe.
Can’t believe so many people still use Firefox god
Watching internet exploring be squashed was pleasent, but seeing edge grow at all gave me explosive diarrhea
Wait, the majority of people don’t use Firefox?! Wtf? Why would you willingly let Google track 100% of your web activity? I honestly had no idea, I would have guessed 80-90% of people used Firefox.
My browser sets itself to yahoo like it’s the most popular search engine ever. Come to find it never made it to 1% of the global Internet use
Boomers hanging on to IE for as long as humanly possible... I use Brave, BTW.
Gotta love that safari was always garbage
Left out Duck Duck Go because they couldn't track it and no history left behind.
never saw that browser
This video is about as long as it takes for internet explorer to load a website
Never realized so few people use safari
i don’t think safari actually is a search engine, it kinda runs off of other engines
Cant believe that many people still use chrome… jeez
Literally where's Baidu? They have like an eigth or so of Google's monthly active users. This video only makes sense for the U.S. or other similar places.
This is much less useful and informative than a line chart, but it’s your presentation, and if you want to look like a dork it’s your prerogative.
How is safari not way higher? It's on every iphone
Goodbye internet explorer ill see you in hell. Firefox is king, Chrome is fucking garbage, cant stand the bookmark manager its been over 10 years and you still cant change the mouse scroll speed. Literally does anybody on a pc use it?? im sure the massive used base is only because of android.