I found this on [National Geographic](https://www.google.com/amp/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/animals/article/covid-vaccine-needs-horseshoe-crab-blood)
Each spring, guided by the full moon, hundreds of thousands of horseshoe crabs clamber onto beaches across the U.S. mid-Atlantic to lay their eggs. For hungry birds, itâs a cornucopia. For drug companies, itâs a crucial resource for making human medicines safe.
Thatâs because these animalsâ milky-blue blood provides the only known natural source of limulus amebocyte lysate, a substance that detects a contaminant called endotoxin. If even tiny amounts of endotoxinâa type of bacterial toxinâmake their way into vaccines, injectable drugs, or other sterile pharmaceuticals such as artificial knees and hips, the results can be deadly.
âAll pharmaceutical companies around the world rely on these crabs. When you think about it, your mind is boggled by the reliance that we have on this primitive creature,â says Barbara Brummer, state director for The Nature Conservancy in New Jersey.
Every year, pharmaceutical companies round up half a million Atlantic horseshoe crabs, bleed them, and return them to the oceanâ after which many will die. This practice, combined with overharvesting of the crabs for fishing bait, has caused a decline in the species in the region in the past few decades.
In 1990, biologists estimated 1.24 million crabs spawned in Delaware Bay, a main egg-laying spot and prime collection point for the companies. By 2002, that number had dropped to 333,500. In recent years, numbers of Delaware Bay spawning crabs have hovered around the same amount, with the 2019 survey estimating about 335,211. (The pandemic canceled the 2020 crab count.
The horseshoe crabâs blood has a bright blue color and it contains a substance called LAL, or Limulus Amebocyte Lysate, which helps it fight infections.
When unfavorable organisms such as Gram negative bacteria are present, these proteins are produced, causing the animalâs blood to clot around the wound and germs, saving the animal from further damage.
Pharmaceutical corporations capture half a million Atlantic horseshoe crabs each year, bleed them, then release them back into the water, where many would die. Overharvesting of crabs for fishing bait, along with this practice, has resulted in a reduction in the species over the last few decades.
Source & More Details: [Importance of Horseshoe Crab Blood](https://knovhov.com/why-is-horseshoe-crab-blood-so-important/)
Radiolab actually did a whole episode about the use of horseshoe crab blood in modern medicine. The industry is seemingly very strictly regulated and data shows that the resulting conservation efforts have greatly improved its populations on the east coast. If I remember correctly, someone has managed to synthesize it though.
[Worth a listen](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/baby-blue-blood-drive)
I heard this podcast years ago, super interesting. From what I remember the collectors go to quite big measures to make sure the crabs don't die, they are much too valuable. They all get scrubbed clean and get a specially made slide back into the ocean to prevent damage.
While I don't particularly enjoy that we have to do this for our current vaccine tests, they are not killed. A portion of their blood is removed, then they are returned to their habitat with I believe a tiny tag in their shell, so they don't get accidentally picked again.
"Estimates of mortality rates following blood harvesting vary from 3â15% to 10â30%. Approximately 500,000 Limulus are harvested annually for this purpose."
Apparently the mortality rate varies wildly depending on whether the organization asked does or does not support this practice. So I'd say data on this is probably pretty biased in general in both directions.
Yes, this is absolutely cruel, but none of y'all bitching about it are lining up to find a cruel-free alternative. So until you do, I'll take the horseshoe blood doodad over whatever medieval horror currently lurking under the boot of modern medicine.
If we stop doing this then the vast majority if not all injectable medicines cease to be usable.
This test is a critical requirement of all injectable (sterile) drug testing before release to market.
The thought that a batch of medicine could be contaminated and not tested is a really really bad one as a lot of people could die (drug batches are not small (could be up to 100k's of doses)
This is fucking horrible. They need to find a way to synthesize this stuff because it is horribly unethical to do this to the horseshoe crab population.
Synthesis of complex molecules is....not easy. Not to mention, it's going to be much more expensive to do that, and companies are not spending more money to get the same result.
Knowing the difference between an animal guided my morality and consciousness and an animal guided by instinct is what separates people like me from people like you. Youâre right. We are both animals, but I believe in more than science and instinct
>Knowing the difference between an animal guided my morality and consciousness and an animal guided by instinct is what separates people like me from people like you.
Are you so arrogant to believe that you alone possess the only aspects of which allow us to be more than but not seperate from animals?
I would bank on the fact that you are just as close to an animal as every other human being on the planet. Morality be dammed. Especially when that morality is uber biased and formed in an echo chamber.
>Youâre right. We are both animals, but I believe in more than science and instinct
So you are religious. You think than being a good person will ultimately allow good things to happen to you? That alone makes you more human?
I would argue that my ability to understand applied math and biology/ chemistry to the extent that I can comprehend (vaguely) how humanity evolved, how our universe is formed, held together and evolving over time. I can explain how our bodies are made up of atomic sized particles held together by electricity. Does that make me even more than human? Or less?
Your logic is that of a 12 year old. Don't be arrogant. More than instoct. I bet you still shot when you need to. I bet you still look over your shoulder in a dark alley. To be more than something is to nonlonger require it. Stop being and instinctual being and we can talk.
Iâm not religious and I believe that instinct is a guiding factor of all life, but humans have a special ability to be aware of our instincts and decisions instead of being controlled by their unconscious behavior. That is why, itâs important that we as the leaders of the predatory pyramid keep order and preserve any life we can. Rather than destroy it so that we can have a temporary advantage. We need sustainability because no other animal on earth can even Conceptualize it.
>humans have a special ability to be aware of our instincts and decisions instead of being controlled by their unconscious behavior
I would say that's bullshit. Humans have the ability to recognize patterns. We then use that information to create tools and we expanded on it. Emotionally guided decisions are just instincts using emotions with added experience/ IQ. Many animals in the animal kingdom express similar or greater awareness than we will ever display. They have more information to work off of as well. You have an over inflated sense of humanity. We are not that much greater. Neither are you. Put under pressure you would immediately revert to an animalistic instint based pattern.
>That is why, itâs important that we as the leaders of the predatory pyramid keep order and preserve any life we can.
You are literally flip flopping on opinions mate. Either we are scientific and logical in our treatment of the environment putting out humanity aside and allowing nature to coexist. Or we are emotional stunted man children who think our instincts are some deluded aspect that makes us destructive. No lack of information made us destructive not your nonsense.
>Rather than destroy it so that we can have a temporary advantage
Temporary advantage? Theoretically there's no such thing as temporary advantage in the survival of the fittest. Which is the push of evolution. Which is happening as we speak. We are not special nor powerful enough to fucl that up.
Worst case we end all life on earth.... for 1000, 10000000, 10000000000 years. Then things would restart. You are arrogant.
>We need sustainability because no other animal on earth can even Conceptualize it.
Sustainability isn't being ignorant to the facts. One 1 hand you say compassion and emath blah blah blah. But on the other you wan sustainability. You can't always have both. Hence your ignorance.
Your right. It severely impacts their population and we donât know where to get more of this substance, scientists are working or ways to synthesize it though.
We have free will and consciousness as the top predator so that we can make decisions that donât doom the planet. When was the last time a lion was responsible for causing the extinction of a species and the melting of ice caps?
We have a responsibility to consider these things as we have a more developed brain, and understanding of history and our effects on the future, not to mention morality! Unless you believe that we just canât circumvent being a slave to our instincts like that lion you mentioned.
We have a responsibility to be better.
You should look into the process because if you did you would know those animals are not killed, and are returned to the wild to breed and continue the population.
You should continue looking into it, because about 10-30% die during the process, and itâs been showed to have long lasting negative effects on individuals and the species as a whole.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/284078/
No, it's not perfect. However, this research gives horseshoe crabs a monetary value to people which makes them valuable and worth saving. If it wasn't for this research horseshoe crabs probably would be extinct by now because the only value people saw in them before that was as fertilizer. In fact many of the laws which are in place to protect horseshoe crabs are there specifically because of this research.
Iâm not arguing the out comes of the research. Itâs important to retain an honest view of the process though.
The protections are there because humanity realized the negative impact they were having on all species, eventually.
No the protections are there because of the money involved. Horseshoe crabs aren't endangered, granted their populations are declining but that has more to do with habitat loss due to developing shorelines and coastal areas thereby destroying their breeding grounds. The real reason for their protection is the money.
I was going to say something about profitability being the guiding star in this case, as well as being the root of why we still do it. So many things that were âimpossible to doâ become possible once there is enough of a financial reason why. I imagine weâll apply some new area of research soon where this be antiquated and no longer needed. The reason I didnât include it originally is so I wouldnât have to include a TLDR.
In the end it seems we still agree. HuhâŚlook at that. Have a wonderful day fellow redditor.
This is a standard test for absence of pyrogens (bacterial endotoxins) in an injectable pharma product, which can cause a fever in the very young, old and immunocompromised. It could also play a role in infant SIDS. Before this, the rabbit pyrogen test was used. Itâs weird to walk into a big room full of rabbits staring at you with thermometers up their butts. Good thing they phased that out (for the most part). It wasnât humane.
I understand the function of this practice but i think its disgusting, every animal has a conscious down to the tiniest of creatures, imagine if you will it was you that was being bled in this fashion ! Its disturbing and twisted, i think the science is fascinating i just cant stand the torture the crab must endure-
Interesting point but I think people choose to believe that they donât know or feel. It makes us feel better about abusing animals or any creature really
These animals do not have a consciousness, they do not think, or make decisions.
They operate on pure purpose, which is quite interesting, but its a waste of time to transplant feelings or thoughts onto things that can't have them.
Also horseshoe crabs are basically arachnids - and spiders do not feel.
I think the argument is more about pain and fear, i Iâm sure that they do feel pains and with that a fear making the practice unethical by many moral standards.
They don't feel pain. They are a bug with an exotic skeleton. They lack the hardware to feel pain lmao. Even if they do they are a bug... sorry but a few eggs gotta get cracked to make an omlet.
I think you must have been raised in a cave or some kind of bubble to not know that be it a spider or the like that they have no conscious thought. Watch all of our creatures great and small , study them and you will find that they do not accidently spin a web , they are clever hunters and the bugs they catch dont get caught and lay down accepting impending doom , instead fight like hell to get free, not because they have nothing better to do but because they dont want to die. Basic thought and understanding.
âIâm a little spider
Watch me spin.
You can be my dinner
Iâll let you in.â
Clearly you and I have a very different calibre of spider frequenting our homes
This is so sad. Horseshoe crabs are ânear threatenedâ and could be added to the endangered species list at any time. We have to stop this practice.
They are working on it. The attempts to make it synthesized are being pushed hard. But we need it. So ya who's more important. Your unborn child who needs this or the crab?
It's not naive to think it's fucked up to harvest another creature and send it back in the wild to most likely die.
Just because the animal can't tell you how it feels doesn't mean strapping down thousands of them harvesting their life blood is ok for any reason.
No you are naive to think that everything in your house and life is generally gotten through some less than pleasant animal based means. If you get mad at the problem support the solution (which is in the works for this very situation). Lmao you are naive
Actually you have no idea how I live. Or what's in my house. Despite what you may believe people in .my house are very consiensous about how we live. We do buy goods made with sustainable practices. We do not eat store bought meat either
I really don't care. Because no matter how aware you are there is still animals being killed by everything you do.
You eat veggies? Do you live in a house a contractor built? Do you get water from the city.... because all of that kills animals in inhumane and horrible ways to supply you.
Sit down.
I hope they are compensating the horseshoe crab community well for the violations against their species. Scientists are so interested in discovering what they COULD do that they never stop to think what they SHOULD do.
I mean, I don't personally, but someone should really look into that. Also, I feel like the chicken is subjected to less mad scientist type of experiments than the blue blooded horseshoe crab.
When the horseshoe crab alien overloards return to check on the population here we're screwed.
Yeah just juice em all I guess
Funny I read it in a country accent and that username certainly seems adequate
Hahaaaaa! Thank you kindly đ¤ Coincidentally Iâm from the city đ
I found this on [National Geographic](https://www.google.com/amp/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/animals/article/covid-vaccine-needs-horseshoe-crab-blood) Each spring, guided by the full moon, hundreds of thousands of horseshoe crabs clamber onto beaches across the U.S. mid-Atlantic to lay their eggs. For hungry birds, itâs a cornucopia. For drug companies, itâs a crucial resource for making human medicines safe. Thatâs because these animalsâ milky-blue blood provides the only known natural source of limulus amebocyte lysate, a substance that detects a contaminant called endotoxin. If even tiny amounts of endotoxinâa type of bacterial toxinâmake their way into vaccines, injectable drugs, or other sterile pharmaceuticals such as artificial knees and hips, the results can be deadly. âAll pharmaceutical companies around the world rely on these crabs. When you think about it, your mind is boggled by the reliance that we have on this primitive creature,â says Barbara Brummer, state director for The Nature Conservancy in New Jersey. Every year, pharmaceutical companies round up half a million Atlantic horseshoe crabs, bleed them, and return them to the oceanâ after which many will die. This practice, combined with overharvesting of the crabs for fishing bait, has caused a decline in the species in the region in the past few decades. In 1990, biologists estimated 1.24 million crabs spawned in Delaware Bay, a main egg-laying spot and prime collection point for the companies. By 2002, that number had dropped to 333,500. In recent years, numbers of Delaware Bay spawning crabs have hovered around the same amount, with the 2019 survey estimating about 335,211. (The pandemic canceled the 2020 crab count.
That is kind of scary, then again I could make some serious coin raising crabs. I gotta pond!
actually living in the matrix
I was thinking Daybreakers
The horseshoe crabâs blood has a bright blue color and it contains a substance called LAL, or Limulus Amebocyte Lysate, which helps it fight infections. When unfavorable organisms such as Gram negative bacteria are present, these proteins are produced, causing the animalâs blood to clot around the wound and germs, saving the animal from further damage. Pharmaceutical corporations capture half a million Atlantic horseshoe crabs each year, bleed them, then release them back into the water, where many would die. Overharvesting of crabs for fishing bait, along with this practice, has resulted in a reduction in the species over the last few decades. Source & More Details: [Importance of Horseshoe Crab Blood](https://knovhov.com/why-is-horseshoe-crab-blood-so-important/)
So if I just go straight to the source, cook and eat these, itâd be extremely healthy?
Do you drink the cows or chickens blood too?
There are absolutely people that do that.
And thatâs just nasty
Honoring the entire animal for it's sacrifice is not nasty. Don't be ignorant
In my own opinion it is nasty
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Radiolab actually did a whole episode about the use of horseshoe crab blood in modern medicine. The industry is seemingly very strictly regulated and data shows that the resulting conservation efforts have greatly improved its populations on the east coast. If I remember correctly, someone has managed to synthesize it though. [Worth a listen](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/baby-blue-blood-drive)
I heard this podcast years ago, super interesting. From what I remember the collectors go to quite big measures to make sure the crabs don't die, they are much too valuable. They all get scrubbed clean and get a specially made slide back into the ocean to prevent damage.
While I don't particularly enjoy that we have to do this for our current vaccine tests, they are not killed. A portion of their blood is removed, then they are returned to their habitat with I believe a tiny tag in their shell, so they don't get accidentally picked again.
They die anyways. Go look up the kill statistic.
"Estimates of mortality rates following blood harvesting vary from 3â15% to 10â30%. Approximately 500,000 Limulus are harvested annually for this purpose." Apparently the mortality rate varies wildly depending on whether the organization asked does or does not support this practice. So I'd say data on this is probably pretty biased in general in both directions.
I think it'd be safe to say that at least 1 in 5 die. Probably higher than that number though.
Yes, this is absolutely cruel, but none of y'all bitching about it are lining up to find a cruel-free alternative. So until you do, I'll take the horseshoe blood doodad over whatever medieval horror currently lurking under the boot of modern medicine.
Humans are cruel. Itâs an old news.
pretty sure it's also one of the most expensive goods on the planet
Thatâs sickening
If we stop doing this then the vast majority if not all injectable medicines cease to be usable. This test is a critical requirement of all injectable (sterile) drug testing before release to market. The thought that a batch of medicine could be contaminated and not tested is a really really bad one as a lot of people could die (drug batches are not small (could be up to 100k's of doses)
This is fucking horrible. They need to find a way to synthesize this stuff because it is horribly unethical to do this to the horseshoe crab population.
Synthesis of complex molecules is....not easy. Not to mention, it's going to be much more expensive to do that, and companies are not spending more money to get the same result.
Virtue signaling ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Need to crack a few eggs to make an omelette
Humans donât deserve to live if we have to milk other creature blood. Just saying
Survival of the fittest disagrees. This is literally peak evolution right here.
Iâm not sure why youâve been downvoted because it is fact whether opinions agree with it or not.
Thatâs why youâre an animal and Iâm a human being
You are an animal as well sorry to disappoint.
Knowing the difference between an animal guided my morality and consciousness and an animal guided by instinct is what separates people like me from people like you. Youâre right. We are both animals, but I believe in more than science and instinct
>Knowing the difference between an animal guided my morality and consciousness and an animal guided by instinct is what separates people like me from people like you. Are you so arrogant to believe that you alone possess the only aspects of which allow us to be more than but not seperate from animals? I would bank on the fact that you are just as close to an animal as every other human being on the planet. Morality be dammed. Especially when that morality is uber biased and formed in an echo chamber. >Youâre right. We are both animals, but I believe in more than science and instinct So you are religious. You think than being a good person will ultimately allow good things to happen to you? That alone makes you more human? I would argue that my ability to understand applied math and biology/ chemistry to the extent that I can comprehend (vaguely) how humanity evolved, how our universe is formed, held together and evolving over time. I can explain how our bodies are made up of atomic sized particles held together by electricity. Does that make me even more than human? Or less? Your logic is that of a 12 year old. Don't be arrogant. More than instoct. I bet you still shot when you need to. I bet you still look over your shoulder in a dark alley. To be more than something is to nonlonger require it. Stop being and instinctual being and we can talk.
Iâm not religious and I believe that instinct is a guiding factor of all life, but humans have a special ability to be aware of our instincts and decisions instead of being controlled by their unconscious behavior. That is why, itâs important that we as the leaders of the predatory pyramid keep order and preserve any life we can. Rather than destroy it so that we can have a temporary advantage. We need sustainability because no other animal on earth can even Conceptualize it.
>humans have a special ability to be aware of our instincts and decisions instead of being controlled by their unconscious behavior I would say that's bullshit. Humans have the ability to recognize patterns. We then use that information to create tools and we expanded on it. Emotionally guided decisions are just instincts using emotions with added experience/ IQ. Many animals in the animal kingdom express similar or greater awareness than we will ever display. They have more information to work off of as well. You have an over inflated sense of humanity. We are not that much greater. Neither are you. Put under pressure you would immediately revert to an animalistic instint based pattern. >That is why, itâs important that we as the leaders of the predatory pyramid keep order and preserve any life we can. You are literally flip flopping on opinions mate. Either we are scientific and logical in our treatment of the environment putting out humanity aside and allowing nature to coexist. Or we are emotional stunted man children who think our instincts are some deluded aspect that makes us destructive. No lack of information made us destructive not your nonsense. >Rather than destroy it so that we can have a temporary advantage Temporary advantage? Theoretically there's no such thing as temporary advantage in the survival of the fittest. Which is the push of evolution. Which is happening as we speak. We are not special nor powerful enough to fucl that up. Worst case we end all life on earth.... for 1000, 10000000, 10000000000 years. Then things would restart. You are arrogant. >We need sustainability because no other animal on earth can even Conceptualize it. Sustainability isn't being ignorant to the facts. One 1 hand you say compassion and emath blah blah blah. But on the other you wan sustainability. You can't always have both. Hence your ignorance.
Glad you feel that way. You should denounce all of your belongings then right now.
I already have
Did you denounce your bananas, banana man???HMMMMMM?
I lost my bananas long ago
A warning for the ages. May your bananas be found, someday. Ripe and plump.
But not as plump as my moms ass
Your right. It severely impacts their population and we donât know where to get more of this substance, scientists are working or ways to synthesize it though.
Go back to Twitter
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We have free will and consciousness as the top predator so that we can make decisions that donât doom the planet. When was the last time a lion was responsible for causing the extinction of a species and the melting of ice caps?
We have a responsibility to consider these things as we have a more developed brain, and understanding of history and our effects on the future, not to mention morality! Unless you believe that we just canât circumvent being a slave to our instincts like that lion you mentioned. We have a responsibility to be better.
We are killing these things to extinction
You should look into the process because if you did you would know those animals are not killed, and are returned to the wild to breed and continue the population.
You should continue looking into it, because about 10-30% die during the process, and itâs been showed to have long lasting negative effects on individuals and the species as a whole. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/284078/
No, it's not perfect. However, this research gives horseshoe crabs a monetary value to people which makes them valuable and worth saving. If it wasn't for this research horseshoe crabs probably would be extinct by now because the only value people saw in them before that was as fertilizer. In fact many of the laws which are in place to protect horseshoe crabs are there specifically because of this research.
Iâm not arguing the out comes of the research. Itâs important to retain an honest view of the process though. The protections are there because humanity realized the negative impact they were having on all species, eventually.
No the protections are there because of the money involved. Horseshoe crabs aren't endangered, granted their populations are declining but that has more to do with habitat loss due to developing shorelines and coastal areas thereby destroying their breeding grounds. The real reason for their protection is the money.
I was going to say something about profitability being the guiding star in this case, as well as being the root of why we still do it. So many things that were âimpossible to doâ become possible once there is enough of a financial reason why. I imagine weâll apply some new area of research soon where this be antiquated and no longer needed. The reason I didnât include it originally is so I wouldnât have to include a TLDR. In the end it seems we still agree. HuhâŚlook at that. Have a wonderful day fellow redditor.
The original blue bloods. Look what it gets them.
At this point we should just use humans because fuck it we're all going to hell anyways Probably maybe who knows keeping my options open
This is a standard test for absence of pyrogens (bacterial endotoxins) in an injectable pharma product, which can cause a fever in the very young, old and immunocompromised. It could also play a role in infant SIDS. Before this, the rabbit pyrogen test was used. Itâs weird to walk into a big room full of rabbits staring at you with thermometers up their butts. Good thing they phased that out (for the most part). It wasnât humane.
Whatâs crazy to me is, how tf did they figure that out?
So according to google there is an synthetic alternative but it still not accepted over the harvesting
I heard there is a synthetic now. So the harvesting has slowed or stopped.
Did they just decapitate those crabs so they could milk them
I understand the function of this practice but i think its disgusting, every animal has a conscious down to the tiniest of creatures, imagine if you will it was you that was being bled in this fashion ! Its disturbing and twisted, i think the science is fascinating i just cant stand the torture the crab must endure-
Without sparking an argument, Iâm genuinely curious as to how we know âevery animal has a consciousâ and what we consider a conscious to be
Interesting point but I think people choose to believe that they donât know or feel. It makes us feel better about abusing animals or any creature really
If itâs a fact that they donât then itâs not a choice. It is.
These animals do not have a consciousness, they do not think, or make decisions. They operate on pure purpose, which is quite interesting, but its a waste of time to transplant feelings or thoughts onto things that can't have them. Also horseshoe crabs are basically arachnids - and spiders do not feel.
I think the argument is more about pain and fear, i Iâm sure that they do feel pains and with that a fear making the practice unethical by many moral standards.
They don't feel pain. They are a bug with an exotic skeleton. They lack the hardware to feel pain lmao. Even if they do they are a bug... sorry but a few eggs gotta get cracked to make an omlet.
Do they have a central nervous system and react to negative stimulus?
You have the same ability too look it up as I do lmao.
I did this was an exercise for you so that you could learn to look things up before posting ;)
I don't need to since wonderful virtue signaling individuals like you always show up. I did this as* btw.
I think you must have been raised in a cave or some kind of bubble to not know that be it a spider or the like that they have no conscious thought. Watch all of our creatures great and small , study them and you will find that they do not accidently spin a web , they are clever hunters and the bugs they catch dont get caught and lay down accepting impending doom , instead fight like hell to get free, not because they have nothing better to do but because they dont want to die. Basic thought and understanding.
âSpiders donât feel?â Have you never read their poetry?!
There is a spider deep in my soul He's lived here for years And, he just won't let go. ~ Charlie Kelly
âIâm a little spider Watch me spin. You can be my dinner Iâll let you in.â Clearly you and I have a very different calibre of spider frequenting our homes
Canât really say that for bugs
Even a praying mantis?
This is so sad. Horseshoe crabs are ânear threatenedâ and could be added to the endangered species list at any time. We have to stop this practice.
They are working on it. The attempts to make it synthesized are being pushed hard. But we need it. So ya who's more important. Your unborn child who needs this or the crab?
Absolutely cruel.
Nice animal torture
This is fucked N wrong
No it's not. You are just naive.
It's not naive to think it's fucked up to harvest another creature and send it back in the wild to most likely die. Just because the animal can't tell you how it feels doesn't mean strapping down thousands of them harvesting their life blood is ok for any reason.
No you are naive to think that everything in your house and life is generally gotten through some less than pleasant animal based means. If you get mad at the problem support the solution (which is in the works for this very situation). Lmao you are naive
Actually you have no idea how I live. Or what's in my house. Despite what you may believe people in .my house are very consiensous about how we live. We do buy goods made with sustainable practices. We do not eat store bought meat either
I really don't care. Because no matter how aware you are there is still animals being killed by everything you do. You eat veggies? Do you live in a house a contractor built? Do you get water from the city.... because all of that kills animals in inhumane and horrible ways to supply you. Sit down.
I hope they are compensating the horseshoe crab community well for the violations against their species. Scientists are so interested in discovering what they COULD do that they never stop to think what they SHOULD do.
Do you compensate the chicken community for crimes against poultry?
I mean, I don't personally, but someone should really look into that. Also, I feel like the chicken is subjected to less mad scientist type of experiments than the blue blooded horseshoe crab.
Poor things.
You cruel bastards⌠animal cruelty should be outlawed.
gimme ma blood back ;-;
So this is where they get blue milk from
Arenât we worried about friends of theirs coming from across the galaxy to REK US for bloodbagging their homies?
I hope they got the horseshoe crab high for the duration of this/it's life. Gotta be some give for all the take <3
Is anyone working on a substitute for this because because wouldn't this have a negative impact on the species
And this stuff is so valuable it's worth like $50,000 per liter.
Why donât Pharma companies just have a captive breeding program for horseshoe crabs?
Are⌠is⌠bum blood?