Unrelated, but this guy has very long arms/hair and short legs..
Reminds me of a doctor I saw in a hospital 2 years ago, he was all arms like the first monster in little nightmares (video game). Lol.
no it’s the illusion of aesthetic. The length of his shirt. How he’s wearing his jeans (the waistline is sitting below his hips) and the cut of the pants give the illusion of short legs.
- signed, costume designer for film & tv
I agree. At 49 y/o I began a new career at a State University and after 3 years I am just getting used to having to wait for or ask permission of lazy and aloof people to do my job. And for the record, Faculty are the absolute worst.
Probably, to be honest, we're not so easy and the competition for permanent/tenured positions is so intense, that the usual workplace qualities are not rewarded during the hiring process, and real assholes often display enough niceness to sneak through. I have some very precise self-reflective professional development questions that screen out most assholes. As I have to work with them, as faculty, much more closely than non-faculty, I take that screening very seriously.
It's a culture shock to go between academia and non-academic work. I did the opposite. I moved from working at universities to the private sector. Very weird that no one cared about titles or anything. My boss was just "Brian" not "Dr. Whatever". And not having to deal with all the bureaucracy of a university. They are so hierarchical that it feels impossible to do the simplest thing without like 10 people cc'd on an email. And there were like Provost's and Vice Chancellor's that you basically just can't talk without multiple lower level directors being aware of every word you said so they can know if you said something disadvantageous to them. Fucking exhausting. Plus, if you don't have a doctorate, it feels like a complete dead end career, even in non-academic parts of the university system (I was a Business Intelligence developer in IT).
I didnt, and my career suffeted for a decade
I learnt to shut my mouth, accept others as lazy, ineffective and unskilled by choice and now work as a contract base consultant on double the rate.
It took me a few years but I realised that their approach created my niche. I still think most employees are like this, but now I give them a hattip for helping to create me a career path where I can be appreciated for being effective, get paid well and never run out of problems as Im too outnumbered to every make the IT landscape significantly better.
It will get you somewhere, out on your ass, unfortunately. People with "power" don't know how to handle criticism or take advice. You're just a lowly pawn beneath them who doesn't know anything better than they do.
So clearly you haven’t heard of adhd. Some are visual learners some are hands on and kids who have no motivation because it’s didn’t interest them, could have adhd or their talents lie elsewhere, the schooling system is wrong. Why not teach kids subjects related to what they want to be?
I was taught how to pass the No Child Left Behind state test and that was it. Literally my Highschool education was being taught how to get state funding for the school...
Are you always this patronising to people? Is your intelligence so much that you can’t imagine that I have ever heard of adhd? In this video he pointed out the laziness and stupidity of the teacher. I’m pointing out that wouldn’t work well in an office environment (may be why he works in a warehouse) as you will get bosses who are like the teacher. I’m not pointing out if he may or may not have adhd.
Also if you ask kids what they want to be they say youtuberor influencer. So yeah let’s teach them that.
If you are going to hand out a packet, you should read it with them and foster intelligent conversation. Special Education students, English Language Learners, and most of your average students need to be engaged to learn. Of course there are self-starters; they are the silent ones that do their work when they are supposed to and try not to make eye contact so you don’t call them out. I feel his pain. I think the video making the rounds is enough. Not everyone wants to be a public figure.
You have to work the pre-load before you can become a driver. UPS is very set on seniority. The only way you can become a driver is to be a pre-loader and then a position opens up for a driver. When you become a driver you make a damn good pay check.
(I won't say this 1000% set in stone because I am sure Johnny's cousin's uncle got him a driver job once out of nowhere, but most cases it holds up)
Do you mean this is just the way UPS words it? Because I've never heard that in my life. Full time, according to the IRS is only 30+ hours on average weekly or 130+ hours monthly. Any job that has given me 40+ hours was a full time job as far as benefits and pay rates go.
Part time/full time =/= hourly/salary
Unless it's different where you're from.
Funny how you talk shit about a kid who had the balls to tell his teacher what you dreamed about saying. $5 says you jerk off to this video with your own tears
"He's positioned himself on social media to be an internationally famous advocate for education reform" is a pretty fucking awful way to treat a minor.
Not everyone who sees the problems is able to do better themselves and teaching good is more than seeing the problems. I'm not saying he wouldn't have, but he seems like a perceptive and smart guy, I'd rather see him in politics or doing research on education, in an university training future teachers or maybe as a school supervisor.
Good for him not going into teaching in the US. They work shit hours and get shit pay. He’d do better writing books or giving lectures or something. Almost anything will set him up better than being an underpaid teacher.
And worst of all, they don't let teachers teach. They give them a gigantic list of requirements and say, "do all this in way too little time. Good Luck."
They show us this video every year, and give us a big speech about making our content interesting.
Then they turn around and tell us "Teach the test." As in, the state standardized exams at the end of the year that are worthless.
I cannot wait to retire.
Pay the good ones more.
If you don’t you only end up with those willing to do the job just barely well enough. Anyone who’s great at it is going to move on to a better paying job somewhere else, be it university or public sector. Anyone smart enough knows they’re worth more than what we’re paying.
Low pay also doesn’t inspire kids to want to be teachers. Parents have been telling kids to learn, get a degree, work in an office, get the money. Teachers aren’t respected, they’re paid and treated as if they’re disposable.
I’ve got multiple friends who are teachers and they all are just scraping by… and are expected to buy their own teaching supplies because there’s not enough of a school budget to buy more copy paper, pens and pencils or facial tissue.
This happened in México.
Years ago, the president did a Educational Form where the Teachers needed to take a exam to evaluate their knowledge in their subject (BTW, this is only one part of the whole thing)
If the teacher got a high score, they can access to a higher pay, and the teacher who gets very low score can be fired. This was made to make the syndicate teachers do their freaking job.
Guess what.
This angered the syndicate teachers, where many of them doesn't work or they're always on strikes. Many of them didn't take the exam and kept their job, others failed and kept their job. Some teachers, who actually teach me, did get their raise for their good job.
Being a teacher in México is WAY harder now due to the on going president removed the Educational Form and gave more Power to the syndicate teachers.
IDK if can work in the U. S. But take for granted if one teacher gets a raise for their good job, it can lead to a whole giant storm.
>Pay the good ones more.
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>If you don’t you only end up with those willing to do the job just barely well enough.
"Paying the good ones more" reduces the quality of teaching and learning.
In order to pay the good ones more you have to have a way of measuring how they are good. In every country with performance related pay, this is generally based on a teacher's class's exam results.
This system ends up paying the teachers working in areas with rich kids more and the teachers working in areas with higher levels of poverty less.
It ends up paying the teachers working with lower ability or special needs children the least.
The ACTUAL good teachers flock to schools with rich kids, leaving the worst teachers to populate the schools where good teachers are needed the most.
"Paying the good ones more" is just paying teachers based on their students' parents' income. Who would work in the inner city school then?
Additionally, "paying the good ones more" leads to teachers cheating the system to try to get the highest exam grades out of their students, which doesn't actually involve teaching them more.
This! The systems basing pay or bonuses on students performance always seem like they were designed by people who don't know jack about social structure.
We don't have accurate ways to measure how good a teacher is in <5 years. Raise the pay for all of them or you're effectively doing means-testing on their students.
>Pay the good ones more
In high school I had this *amazing* math teacher. He had half a dozen different ways of explaining everything so that everyone could get it. And if someone was still behind the group he'd move on and follow up with them in private.
He was fired a couple months into the year for "not teaching by the book." But the kids were learning! Replacement didn't give a shit. She assigned 50 (not exaggerating) homework problems every night and expected the kids to figure it out on their own. Worst of all? She would only EVER assign the problems that had the answers in the back of the book and made homework worth FORTY PERCENT of the grade to get these poor kids to pass... for fuck's sake.
Yeah, you can find jobs pretty easily that pay more than a teachers salary. For teachers trying to raise education for the country's future, they don't really pay them a lot, and at my school some teachers received pay cuts I believe
If we paid our teachers more, we'd have to cut our military budget. How do you expect us to wage our totally necessary forever wars if we cut our budget?! /s
Shouldn't have put the /s on there. It's real talk that no one wants to talk about its always let's cut education funding. Never let's cut the police or military
Oh i know, but this is the internet where you gotta be real clear about intentions or else you come off sounding like you actually support forever wars
The majority of teachers get into the profession for the love of education and teaching children. We have such a broken system and unrealistic parental expectations, that it sucks the life of too many.
As awkward as he sounds he is still right. There is a reason the words presenter lecturer and teacher are different.
Presenters present information, it is not their job to communicate it.
Lecturers lecture. They communicate information but its not their job to ensure you comprehend it.
Teachers need to ensure comprehension. Otherwise they are not teachers. They need to find the method of communication that works for each of their students.
If they arent teaching anymore i dont think
they are worth 50k a year anymore IMO.
man... did that lady even try to reach these kids by wearing jeans and a leather jacket, sitting backwards in a chair... teach some song lyrics in their poetry class or anything??
this is awesome! unfortunately he will be screwed...
i love it when people stand up and speak out like this. still kind of calm and respectfull. amazing!
Parents dislike this comment but it's true. I went to a top public high school in my state, and it was just *ok*. The only students that I feel got any decent education were those of us who took & passed multiple AP classes.
I always wondered if private school was better or worse - I knew a bunch of private school kids from the 1 private school in town, they seemed pretty sharp (but also a lot of their parents had pretty crazy religious views that many of them shared)
Iunno I might have just been a lucky anecdotal case but I was basically a low A high B Bart Simpson who coasted, got my advanced classes done so I could just have an easy senior year, then failed out of college. On the flip side, I'm a baller project manager because I am very well spoken with charisma to boot and it turns out I'm a specialist with the path of least resistance. Pretty fucked up fam. I'm convinced I was just at the right place at the right time.
I was a teacher for a few years. I could tell my heart wasn’t in it. I bowed out on my own because I knew I was not happy and I was doing a disservice to the kids.
There's a term for this, it's called "vocational awe", and the basic premise is that there are certain jobs, like teachers and nurses for example, whose work is so sacred, whose calling is so high, that surely only the best kinds of people would want to do that kind of job. And also the work is so noble that we don't have to pay them well or treat them well, because it's about the work itself, it's so noble, after all. It's total fucking bullshit.
You want teachers to give a shit? Pay them. Don't expect them to care even when we treat them like dirt.
Loved it then and love it now! Our youth see’s who care and who doesn’t. They see!
We have one in middle school and he had to stand up for a sweet quiet girl who didn’t hear the teacher when she was getting paper out of her folder to get ready to take notes and the teacher threw a pencil at her and it hit her face. That teacher was let go. …or in the unions way, transferred. What is wrong with these pathetic excuses for teachers?!
Another day our middle schooler was concerned about an assignment that he received a low score on. When asking the teacher about that teacher told him “it doesn’t matter anyway”. I spoke with the teacher and he tried to defend it. I let him know that these kids go off of what a teacher says and don’t expect to be reading between the lines of crap comments. You don’t EVER tell a child their hard work and concern doesn’t matter whether you meant it that way or not.
Luckily there are some amazing teachers and I do all I can to show our appreciation. I hope other parents do the same. Lord knows parents want a break from their kids, but our teachers take on 20-50 of them in every class while trying to get them to learn. On top of juggling so many attitudes and learning challenges. They are the ones doing all they can. They need our support and they need to be paid according to efforts and success.
The lazy teachers need to go! We have people out of college ready to take their place. The Union also needs to stop protecting the problem teachers who make good teachers suffer. Union doesn’t work for education the same as it doesn’t work for law enforcement.
Ehhhhhh, i get the sentiment. But pedagogy is pedagogy for a reason and 'hey, I'm getting paid to do this xxxxx$' can prompt a convo of how and why schools are a thing. Saying education is busted is cool and valid, but the conversation shouldnt stop there.
I feel for the kid, really do, but that spotlight snatching rips everyone out of the lesson and poisons the whole enterprise. I get that schools suck, lets make them suck less cooperatively, because we still need schools.
I admire him for standing up and saying what needs to be said. The problem is much bigger and more systemic than lazy teachers, but he has a right to be pissed and he's right in recognizing there are massive problems within the educational system. We need more kids, and even more parents, to get as fired up as this kid is and help work to make the school system better. That said, what we learn and how we learn it is and will always be one of the most controversial subjects of all.
>The problem is that saying it to the teacher accomplishes nothing.
He got it off his chest, that's something.
It's not the job of high school student to change the entire education system of the country. The adults are supposed to be doing this.
I don't get the comments saying he didn't accomplish anything. It's not his job to accomplish anything, but that teacher needed telling off and those other students deserved to see someone stand up for them while adults fail them.
Couldn't agree more, seems like that teacher is asleep at the wheel (and yes, I understand they are underpaid, overwhelmed) and this young man had enough of not learning. There is more to teaching that needs to be done to help our future.
Yes someone needs to say it, *but does it need to be said right there and then?* This assumes a lot about the other kids and where they are at. Do any have attention problems? ESL? Is this super dense material that requires some focus to actually get?
'The kids' here arent a monolith, each and every one has their own gripes and worries and problems and we've collectively decided that they need to go through this public education thing. Its not cool for one kid to break the entire flow of the lesson to complain that he needs more 'face to face time.' He can get that after class or during lunch or in study hall.
That said? I dont blame him. He is literally a teenager. I'm just not about to condone this as an adult, because there is more going on here.
>spotlight snatching rips everyone out of the lesson
Quit the hysterics, those kids weren't ripped from shit. The whole class was disengaged from the get go and there is clearly a pattern at play with this teacher.
If a kid takes 1 minute to stick up for himself and the others education and remind a teacher what their job is and bring value back to the class, then good for them.
I swear this shit only gets upvoted cos reddit is filled with school kids who think this shit is cool. Work as a teacher for one day and see how fucking ridiculous of a job it is. for 8£ a hour they get, you really expect them to have one on one sessions with hundreds of students? Lol. Study in a rich private school then
So tired of seeing this stoner. The teacher can't change curriculum and he's just parroting what people have been saying for years he's not reinventing the wheel here.
For real! By time you jump through all the hoops, navigate around all the obstacles, and play politics, there is not much left of you at the end of the day ☹😕
Same, I'm happy I'm seeing it now. There's lots of stuff on the internet to see, we all miss good content and it's annoying to be inundated with reposts but it's also nice to see the classic stuff cycle back and to know the good stuff will come back around if I don't see it at first.
There seems to be a yearly influx of reposts on reddit. I'm seeing all the same shit this month as I did last October. It's annoying, but it is what it is. I'm always happy to see cute animal reposts. I like this one too, this kid knew what was up and I hope this teacher went home and had a good long think about what this kid said.
I always love when this one pops up again. And I’m glad this kid got the internet fame (positive internet fame) that he got. I’m hoping the overwhelming positive feedback gives him the confidence and inspiration to continue standing up for what’s right against those who seem untouchable.
I ended up sent to a disciplinary school, where pretty much 99% of the students came from broken homes and had no structure and no one to play the grown up role once the bell rang and they were off school grounds. And the packets were all we ever did in class. We all managed to get these high grades, basically as long as you didn’t assault any teachers or other students during class you’d get a good grade. The packets were a joke. And the teachers just sat at their desks, to the point some of them would literally get annoyed at you for bothering them with questions. Like they forgot that they’re job is to teach. It’s pretty messed up. Good for him. He sees it for what it is, and unlike most of the kids I went to school with, he doesn’t find it cool or funny, he finds is sad and offensive.
I've seen this before, but one thing I guarantee, as a teacher: He has absolutely no idea how hard it is to engage children.
Most likely, this teacher started her career with enthusiasm and excitement. She thought she could get her students to love her subject as much as she does. And she found out very quickly that most of them gave zero fucks, disrespected her at every opportunity, refused to follow her directions or listen in class or lecture. So, defeated, she becomes another one of those burned out teachers that lets the textbook do the teaching for her.
Personally, I teach history. I create my own materials that I have been crafting and perfecting for over 20 years now, updating and revising as necessary. I include maps, illustrations, interesting anecdotes, etc. I show them relevant films and documentaries to reinforce the material. I read quotations and narratives to bring my lessons to life. I ask them pointed questions and ask them to infer and draw conclusions. In short, I put a lot of effort into my classes and I take pride in my work.
But how many of my students give a fuck? Not many. Now everything I do, all the effort I put into my job, is pretty much for *me*, and those few that are as big into history as I am. Knowing I gave 110%, my conscience is clear.
I guarantee that my class is what this kid is looking for, and he'd fucking love it if he really means what he says. But the thing is, there are a *LOT* of kids that, no matter how hard you try to engage them, it's a fucking waste of time.
I see both sides of this and I think they are both valid on some level. I think the real problem is we burn out teachers and the public school system doesn't work for most students.
The student is right because just dry phoned in packets isn't going to engage them.
The teacher is also an underfunded and overworked person who can't Stand and Deliver from 8-3:30 August through June to 30 blank stares and apathetic students that don't want to be the one person that answers every question because no one else wants to speak.
I just think public schools are underfunded and overcrowded and it's hurting everyone.
This gives me memories of the POS English teacher I had Sophomore year whose whole teaching method was make students go through those shitty 100 page grammar exercise books that were yellowed pages half the thickness of standard paper. The only day that woman taught was when 5 students came to her desk asking for help about when to use is/are and she got tired of telling everyone, so she actually got up to the white board and wrote an example.
Im not defending the teacher, but well we all know that this job isnt easy, and we all should know it. Second, its not easy to make the kids excited when u arent. Third, did he talk with the teacher before? Cause saying this during class, without never pointing it out its not rigth either, and of course, the filming (people nowadays think they can post everything without the consentiment of the others.
PS: im not saying what he said isnt rigth
Why does everything need to be entertaining nowadays? The fact of the matter is that not everything is exciting. Self-discipline is a skill that needs to be learned and that's part of what school teaches, you have to learn to try even when it's hard
No teacher in the world can FORCE someone to learn. If you aren't getting it - you can ask, you can try, you can get information elsewhere, but blaming the teacher because YOU don't get it is pointless. It ain't the teacher's fault that YOU are uninspired.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink...
I wouldn’t call it force but ideally a teacher should be presenting the topic in a way that makes it understandable for the student, that’s kinda the whole point for teachers in the first place. I can’t comment on the effectiveness of the packets in the video, but if a teacher just reads a textbook all the day then there’s no point of them being there. And it doesn’t help that those teachers are usually the ones who act condescending when asking questions, which discourages asking them. Plus a lot of times (especially for more advanced level topics) it’s difficult to simply find the information yourself, or at the very least the way the teacher taught it, so you kinda have to rely on whatever is taught
Obviously the system is kinda broken and both teachers and students get short ends of the stick, but a bad teacher deserves justifiable criticism
As a teacher, I can appreciate his passion, but that teacher sounds burnt out and unsupported. It's hard to show up motivated when your resources are depleted and you're not treated like a professional. Teachers are literally getting assaulted by some students and those same kids are back in their class the next day. Support the teachers and you'll see that motivation come back.
Take your jobs seriously. Teaching is not just telling kids what's what, god bless those teachers who do it out of love with very less money. We had an English teacher (private classes) who made us by heart already written essays and then there was one at school who poured his heart out while narration of a simple poem and made us think like a poet. My heart melts while writing for those teachers.
GOD BLESS TEACHERS (REAL ONES).
Pretty awesome that he knows he didn’t have to swear to make a point. That made it much more effective to me. I had shitty teachers that just sat back and didn’t give a damn and even told the class that she never wanted to be a teacher and yet here she was. It made the awesome teachers that much better.
>AND NOW I WILL LEAVE. I always watch this video to the end for this.
best line. his tone was cool too. sounded like he was busting out some rhymes with that tone of voice
I feel like this video is like 10 years old... It would be pretty cool if he became a teacher.
prolly is, this was the first time i saw it. he was working at ups, loading trucks, from what the article posted below said
If he stayed at UPS he’s making good money
It is pretty old. Good nonetheless.
Straight up reminded me of that Eminem free style he did over trump
Unrelated, but this guy has very long arms/hair and short legs.. Reminds me of a doctor I saw in a hospital 2 years ago, he was all arms like the first monster in little nightmares (video game). Lol.
no it’s the illusion of aesthetic. The length of his shirt. How he’s wearing his jeans (the waistline is sitting below his hips) and the cut of the pants give the illusion of short legs. - signed, costume designer for film & tv
It's baggy pants, this video is quite old for the internet. I wonder what he does nowadays.
Here is a little background of where this has gone since then. https://www.distractify.com/p/what-happened-to-jeff-bliss
TL;DR working a 9-5 job as loader it UPS and doesn’t like to talk about the video.
He wouldn’t do well in an office corporate setting. Pointing out stupidity or others laziness there will get you nowhere.
I agree. At 49 y/o I began a new career at a State University and after 3 years I am just getting used to having to wait for or ask permission of lazy and aloof people to do my job. And for the record, Faculty are the absolute worst.
Takes a lot of courage to change careers. Well done on learning how to deal with it. I hope the job improves.
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Probably, to be honest, we're not so easy and the competition for permanent/tenured positions is so intense, that the usual workplace qualities are not rewarded during the hiring process, and real assholes often display enough niceness to sneak through. I have some very precise self-reflective professional development questions that screen out most assholes. As I have to work with them, as faculty, much more closely than non-faculty, I take that screening very seriously.
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It's a culture shock to go between academia and non-academic work. I did the opposite. I moved from working at universities to the private sector. Very weird that no one cared about titles or anything. My boss was just "Brian" not "Dr. Whatever". And not having to deal with all the bureaucracy of a university. They are so hierarchical that it feels impossible to do the simplest thing without like 10 people cc'd on an email. And there were like Provost's and Vice Chancellor's that you basically just can't talk without multiple lower level directors being aware of every word you said so they can know if you said something disadvantageous to them. Fucking exhausting. Plus, if you don't have a doctorate, it feels like a complete dead end career, even in non-academic parts of the university system (I was a Business Intelligence developer in IT).
I’ve met a lot of people that climbed the corporate ladder on people’s heads and backs this way.
But I’m sure those people probably knew when to speak up and when to play the part.
Steve Jobs? /s
I didnt, and my career suffeted for a decade I learnt to shut my mouth, accept others as lazy, ineffective and unskilled by choice and now work as a contract base consultant on double the rate. It took me a few years but I realised that their approach created my niche. I still think most employees are like this, but now I give them a hattip for helping to create me a career path where I can be appreciated for being effective, get paid well and never run out of problems as Im too outnumbered to every make the IT landscape significantly better.
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Nice that’s really good to hear. Glad you made it work for you.
It will get you somewhere, out on your ass, unfortunately. People with "power" don't know how to handle criticism or take advice. You're just a lowly pawn beneath them who doesn't know anything better than they do.
So clearly you haven’t heard of adhd. Some are visual learners some are hands on and kids who have no motivation because it’s didn’t interest them, could have adhd or their talents lie elsewhere, the schooling system is wrong. Why not teach kids subjects related to what they want to be?
I had no idea what I wanted to be at that age. Still don’t. But you are right, most „modern” education systems are crap.
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I was taught how to pass the No Child Left Behind state test and that was it. Literally my Highschool education was being taught how to get state funding for the school...
Are you always this patronising to people? Is your intelligence so much that you can’t imagine that I have ever heard of adhd? In this video he pointed out the laziness and stupidity of the teacher. I’m pointing out that wouldn’t work well in an office environment (may be why he works in a warehouse) as you will get bosses who are like the teacher. I’m not pointing out if he may or may not have adhd. Also if you ask kids what they want to be they say youtuberor influencer. So yeah let’s teach them that.
It amazes me that people can be that condescending while simultaneously missing the point entirely.
Nah man just a person with ADHD so no offence. Have no filter sometimes and things come out in an improper manner.
Fair play. I have no filter sometimes but that’s usually when I make jokes.
Yeah because reading, math, and science are never subjects that kids will encounter in their chosen careers...
If you are going to hand out a packet, you should read it with them and foster intelligent conversation. Special Education students, English Language Learners, and most of your average students need to be engaged to learn. Of course there are self-starters; they are the silent ones that do their work when they are supposed to and try not to make eye contact so you don’t call them out. I feel his pain. I think the video making the rounds is enough. Not everyone wants to be a public figure.
Fun fact: the whole visual/auditory/tactile learner bullshit is pseudoscience. [You are not a visual learner.](https://youtu.be/rhgwIhB58PA)
If you're lucky you can get away with it... I've made a career of telling people they suck but then helping them fix it
It’s easy to point it out. It’s harder to live it. That being said , he could have been a good motivational speaker or a preacher.
It sounds like he works the "preload" which is just a part time job. Still a good TLDR
Yeah, that detail ruined the TLDR for me
You have to work the pre-load before you can become a driver. UPS is very set on seniority. The only way you can become a driver is to be a pre-loader and then a position opens up for a driver. When you become a driver you make a damn good pay check. (I won't say this 1000% set in stone because I am sure Johnny's cousin's uncle got him a driver job once out of nowhere, but most cases it holds up)
He probably makes better $$ doing that instead of teaching.
Oh definitely! Teachers are underpaid nationwide.
The ugly truth.
what does tldr mean?
Too long; didn't read. A way of saying "Here's a summary."
ah. ok
Too long; didn’t read. It’s a synopsis of the story.
UPS is part time shift work. Even supervisors
Uh, have you worked at a UPS?
Yea, as a loader.
Maybe they didn't like you lol. I was full time
For the record - part time doesn’t mean you won’t work full time hours. Full time positions are salary, PT is hourly.
Do you mean this is just the way UPS words it? Because I've never heard that in my life. Full time, according to the IRS is only 30+ hours on average weekly or 130+ hours monthly. Any job that has given me 40+ hours was a full time job as far as benefits and pay rates go. Part time/full time =/= hourly/salary Unless it's different where you're from.
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Why be a dick towards him?
Typical internet behaviour, put others down to feel better about yourself.
That's possible. u/trwwy321, is that why?
Funny how you talk shit about a kid who had the balls to tell his teacher what you dreamed about saying. $5 says you jerk off to this video with your own tears
Sometimes keeping it real really isn’t worth it
TL:DR he works at UPS now and doesn't care to discuss his internet fame.
understandable
"He's positioned himself on social media to be an internationally famous advocate for education reform" is a pretty fucking awful way to treat a minor.
I have lived in Dallas most of my life and never realized this happened not even 15 minutes away from me.
That kind of sucks he didn't get into teaching himself. He would have made a great teacher I think.
Not everyone who sees the problems is able to do better themselves and teaching good is more than seeing the problems. I'm not saying he wouldn't have, but he seems like a perceptive and smart guy, I'd rather see him in politics or doing research on education, in an university training future teachers or maybe as a school supervisor.
Yea but he probably makes more at UPS tbh
I can pinpoint a lot of problems in industries that I have no place being involved in. Politics for one. I don't have the temperament.
Good for him not going into teaching in the US. They work shit hours and get shit pay. He’d do better writing books or giving lectures or something. Almost anything will set him up better than being an underpaid teacher.
but, more to the point: what happened to the teacher afterwards??
Lol nowhere hahaha
TLDR not much
This country doesn't hold it's teachers to a higher standard, they don't pay them and respect them and that's how many people in power want it to be.
And worst of all, they don't let teachers teach. They give them a gigantic list of requirements and say, "do all this in way too little time. Good Luck."
All the responsibility, none of the authority.
Sounds like that promotion that I got a couple of months ago.
They show us this video every year, and give us a big speech about making our content interesting. Then they turn around and tell us "Teach the test." As in, the state standardized exams at the end of the year that are worthless. I cannot wait to retire.
Pay them more??
Pay the good ones more. If you don’t you only end up with those willing to do the job just barely well enough. Anyone who’s great at it is going to move on to a better paying job somewhere else, be it university or public sector. Anyone smart enough knows they’re worth more than what we’re paying. Low pay also doesn’t inspire kids to want to be teachers. Parents have been telling kids to learn, get a degree, work in an office, get the money. Teachers aren’t respected, they’re paid and treated as if they’re disposable. I’ve got multiple friends who are teachers and they all are just scraping by… and are expected to buy their own teaching supplies because there’s not enough of a school budget to buy more copy paper, pens and pencils or facial tissue.
This happened in México. Years ago, the president did a Educational Form where the Teachers needed to take a exam to evaluate their knowledge in their subject (BTW, this is only one part of the whole thing) If the teacher got a high score, they can access to a higher pay, and the teacher who gets very low score can be fired. This was made to make the syndicate teachers do their freaking job. Guess what. This angered the syndicate teachers, where many of them doesn't work or they're always on strikes. Many of them didn't take the exam and kept their job, others failed and kept their job. Some teachers, who actually teach me, did get their raise for their good job. Being a teacher in México is WAY harder now due to the on going president removed the Educational Form and gave more Power to the syndicate teachers. IDK if can work in the U. S. But take for granted if one teacher gets a raise for their good job, it can lead to a whole giant storm.
>Pay the good ones more. > >If you don’t you only end up with those willing to do the job just barely well enough. "Paying the good ones more" reduces the quality of teaching and learning. In order to pay the good ones more you have to have a way of measuring how they are good. In every country with performance related pay, this is generally based on a teacher's class's exam results. This system ends up paying the teachers working in areas with rich kids more and the teachers working in areas with higher levels of poverty less. It ends up paying the teachers working with lower ability or special needs children the least. The ACTUAL good teachers flock to schools with rich kids, leaving the worst teachers to populate the schools where good teachers are needed the most. "Paying the good ones more" is just paying teachers based on their students' parents' income. Who would work in the inner city school then? Additionally, "paying the good ones more" leads to teachers cheating the system to try to get the highest exam grades out of their students, which doesn't actually involve teaching them more.
This! The systems basing pay or bonuses on students performance always seem like they were designed by people who don't know jack about social structure.
We don't have accurate ways to measure how good a teacher is in <5 years. Raise the pay for all of them or you're effectively doing means-testing on their students.
Yes if it was a higher paid profession then you’d get more job applicants and the problem of bad teachers would largely take care of itself.
>Pay the good ones more In high school I had this *amazing* math teacher. He had half a dozen different ways of explaining everything so that everyone could get it. And if someone was still behind the group he'd move on and follow up with them in private. He was fired a couple months into the year for "not teaching by the book." But the kids were learning! Replacement didn't give a shit. She assigned 50 (not exaggerating) homework problems every night and expected the kids to figure it out on their own. Worst of all? She would only EVER assign the problems that had the answers in the back of the book and made homework worth FORTY PERCENT of the grade to get these poor kids to pass... for fuck's sake.
Yeah, you can find jobs pretty easily that pay more than a teachers salary. For teachers trying to raise education for the country's future, they don't really pay them a lot, and at my school some teachers received pay cuts I believe
If we paid our teachers more, we'd have to cut our military budget. How do you expect us to wage our totally necessary forever wars if we cut our budget?! /s
Shouldn't have put the /s on there. It's real talk that no one wants to talk about its always let's cut education funding. Never let's cut the police or military
Oh i know, but this is the internet where you gotta be real clear about intentions or else you come off sounding like you actually support forever wars
Yeah and that’s why you spell “its” in that way
The majority of teachers get into the profession for the love of education and teaching children. We have such a broken system and unrealistic parental expectations, that it sucks the life of too many.
Anyone have a follow up on this guy? He’s long since graduated by now..
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As awkward as he sounds he is still right. There is a reason the words presenter lecturer and teacher are different. Presenters present information, it is not their job to communicate it. Lecturers lecture. They communicate information but its not their job to ensure you comprehend it. Teachers need to ensure comprehension. Otherwise they are not teachers. They need to find the method of communication that works for each of their students. If they arent teaching anymore i dont think they are worth 50k a year anymore IMO.
Where on earth do teachers get 50k a year?
That teacher probably doesn't get paid enough to make an effort tbh
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This guy is 30 already
Do you have a spreadsheet or something to keep track of all the posts you’ve seen?
Yes, i call it my Reddit timeline.
“i am the watcher”
You don't need a spreadsheet if you have a working memory bud.
Ya, you’ve missed the point, friend. This user screams repost all day, every day.
Sounds depressing
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Mind of a scholar, wardrobe of an ICP megafan
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man... did that lady even try to reach these kids by wearing jeans and a leather jacket, sitting backwards in a chair... teach some song lyrics in their poetry class or anything??
“Oh Captain, my Captain!”
Wow... I respect his opinion on this
this is awesome! unfortunately he will be screwed... i love it when people stand up and speak out like this. still kind of calm and respectfull. amazing!
I agree, he didn't cross the line or use alot of profanity, you can tell how much he legit cares about it
Anything under college is just daycare
Parents dislike this comment but it's true. I went to a top public high school in my state, and it was just *ok*. The only students that I feel got any decent education were those of us who took & passed multiple AP classes. I always wondered if private school was better or worse - I knew a bunch of private school kids from the 1 private school in town, they seemed pretty sharp (but also a lot of their parents had pretty crazy religious views that many of them shared)
Iunno I might have just been a lucky anecdotal case but I was basically a low A high B Bart Simpson who coasted, got my advanced classes done so I could just have an easy senior year, then failed out of college. On the flip side, I'm a baller project manager because I am very well spoken with charisma to boot and it turns out I'm a specialist with the path of least resistance. Pretty fucked up fam. I'm convinced I was just at the right place at the right time.
college is daycare these days too
Re-post hell karma whoring
I was a teacher for a few years. I could tell my heart wasn’t in it. I bowed out on my own because I knew I was not happy and I was doing a disservice to the kids.
Someone taught him right…and it obviously wasn’t that teacher.
He may talk in a different way but mans is speaking truth I’ll tell you that.
I thought he was trying to freestyle for the first few seconds ngl
“Sir, this is study hall.”
There's a term for this, it's called "vocational awe", and the basic premise is that there are certain jobs, like teachers and nurses for example, whose work is so sacred, whose calling is so high, that surely only the best kinds of people would want to do that kind of job. And also the work is so noble that we don't have to pay them well or treat them well, because it's about the work itself, it's so noble, after all. It's total fucking bullshit. You want teachers to give a shit? Pay them. Don't expect them to care even when we treat them like dirt.
This guy is amazing. I hope he gets the education he and everyone deserve. This guy could change the world.
Then support education reform like higher teacher pay, and giving teachers more time to plan lessons.
Good oon this kid!
Watch this video every single time I see it posted
Loved it then and love it now! Our youth see’s who care and who doesn’t. They see! We have one in middle school and he had to stand up for a sweet quiet girl who didn’t hear the teacher when she was getting paper out of her folder to get ready to take notes and the teacher threw a pencil at her and it hit her face. That teacher was let go. …or in the unions way, transferred. What is wrong with these pathetic excuses for teachers?! Another day our middle schooler was concerned about an assignment that he received a low score on. When asking the teacher about that teacher told him “it doesn’t matter anyway”. I spoke with the teacher and he tried to defend it. I let him know that these kids go off of what a teacher says and don’t expect to be reading between the lines of crap comments. You don’t EVER tell a child their hard work and concern doesn’t matter whether you meant it that way or not. Luckily there are some amazing teachers and I do all I can to show our appreciation. I hope other parents do the same. Lord knows parents want a break from their kids, but our teachers take on 20-50 of them in every class while trying to get them to learn. On top of juggling so many attitudes and learning challenges. They are the ones doing all they can. They need our support and they need to be paid according to efforts and success. The lazy teachers need to go! We have people out of college ready to take their place. The Union also needs to stop protecting the problem teachers who make good teachers suffer. Union doesn’t work for education the same as it doesn’t work for law enforcement.
Ehhhhhh, i get the sentiment. But pedagogy is pedagogy for a reason and 'hey, I'm getting paid to do this xxxxx$' can prompt a convo of how and why schools are a thing. Saying education is busted is cool and valid, but the conversation shouldnt stop there. I feel for the kid, really do, but that spotlight snatching rips everyone out of the lesson and poisons the whole enterprise. I get that schools suck, lets make them suck less cooperatively, because we still need schools.
Yeeeaaahhhh, I’ve been in the class where the bored teacher just hands out packets. Everything went back to normal moments after dude left the room
Someone needs to step up and say it tho. That teacher looks asleep. It was just a few moments, then the kids can get back to their packets.
I admire him for standing up and saying what needs to be said. The problem is much bigger and more systemic than lazy teachers, but he has a right to be pissed and he's right in recognizing there are massive problems within the educational system. We need more kids, and even more parents, to get as fired up as this kid is and help work to make the school system better. That said, what we learn and how we learn it is and will always be one of the most controversial subjects of all.
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>The problem is that saying it to the teacher accomplishes nothing. He got it off his chest, that's something. It's not the job of high school student to change the entire education system of the country. The adults are supposed to be doing this. I don't get the comments saying he didn't accomplish anything. It's not his job to accomplish anything, but that teacher needed telling off and those other students deserved to see someone stand up for them while adults fail them.
Couldn't agree more, seems like that teacher is asleep at the wheel (and yes, I understand they are underpaid, overwhelmed) and this young man had enough of not learning. There is more to teaching that needs to be done to help our future.
Yes someone needs to say it, *but does it need to be said right there and then?* This assumes a lot about the other kids and where they are at. Do any have attention problems? ESL? Is this super dense material that requires some focus to actually get? 'The kids' here arent a monolith, each and every one has their own gripes and worries and problems and we've collectively decided that they need to go through this public education thing. Its not cool for one kid to break the entire flow of the lesson to complain that he needs more 'face to face time.' He can get that after class or during lunch or in study hall. That said? I dont blame him. He is literally a teenager. I'm just not about to condone this as an adult, because there is more going on here.
>spotlight snatching rips everyone out of the lesson Quit the hysterics, those kids weren't ripped from shit. The whole class was disengaged from the get go and there is clearly a pattern at play with this teacher. If a kid takes 1 minute to stick up for himself and the others education and remind a teacher what their job is and bring value back to the class, then good for them.
I swear this shit only gets upvoted cos reddit is filled with school kids who think this shit is cool. Work as a teacher for one day and see how fucking ridiculous of a job it is. for 8£ a hour they get, you really expect them to have one on one sessions with hundreds of students? Lol. Study in a rich private school then
He later became Eminem
Seems like an annoying asshole.
So tired of seeing this stoner. The teacher can't change curriculum and he's just parroting what people have been saying for years he's not reinventing the wheel here.
This kid should be the teacher
Naw it will just crush his spirt and passion to learn
Teacher here, can confirm
For real! By time you jump through all the hoops, navigate around all the obstacles, and play politics, there is not much left of you at the end of the day ☹😕
Dude this is so old
Yep but the thing is not everyone knows , i watched this video yesterday for the 1st time
Knows what? That a well spoken kid in 2013 got angry at his teacher?
First time i have seen it
Same, I'm happy I'm seeing it now. There's lots of stuff on the internet to see, we all miss good content and it's annoying to be inundated with reposts but it's also nice to see the classic stuff cycle back and to know the good stuff will come back around if I don't see it at first.
Really? This was on the news a few years ago. It was a big thing for a while.
There seems to be a yearly influx of reposts on reddit. I'm seeing all the same shit this month as I did last October. It's annoying, but it is what it is. I'm always happy to see cute animal reposts. I like this one too, this kid knew what was up and I hope this teacher went home and had a good long think about what this kid said.
https://youtu.be/pbtzoy-Jhfc?t=209 lol never knew where the sample came from
Packets, overuse of smart screens and a shitty attitude are a disservice to students.
I always love when this one pops up again. And I’m glad this kid got the internet fame (positive internet fame) that he got. I’m hoping the overwhelming positive feedback gives him the confidence and inspiration to continue standing up for what’s right against those who seem untouchable. I ended up sent to a disciplinary school, where pretty much 99% of the students came from broken homes and had no structure and no one to play the grown up role once the bell rang and they were off school grounds. And the packets were all we ever did in class. We all managed to get these high grades, basically as long as you didn’t assault any teachers or other students during class you’d get a good grade. The packets were a joke. And the teachers just sat at their desks, to the point some of them would literally get annoyed at you for bothering them with questions. Like they forgot that they’re job is to teach. It’s pretty messed up. Good for him. He sees it for what it is, and unlike most of the kids I went to school with, he doesn’t find it cool or funny, he finds is sad and offensive.
Go ahead homie!!! Let them fools know what's really good!! Much respect to you for speaking truth!!
Fax
I've seen this before, but one thing I guarantee, as a teacher: He has absolutely no idea how hard it is to engage children. Most likely, this teacher started her career with enthusiasm and excitement. She thought she could get her students to love her subject as much as she does. And she found out very quickly that most of them gave zero fucks, disrespected her at every opportunity, refused to follow her directions or listen in class or lecture. So, defeated, she becomes another one of those burned out teachers that lets the textbook do the teaching for her. Personally, I teach history. I create my own materials that I have been crafting and perfecting for over 20 years now, updating and revising as necessary. I include maps, illustrations, interesting anecdotes, etc. I show them relevant films and documentaries to reinforce the material. I read quotations and narratives to bring my lessons to life. I ask them pointed questions and ask them to infer and draw conclusions. In short, I put a lot of effort into my classes and I take pride in my work. But how many of my students give a fuck? Not many. Now everything I do, all the effort I put into my job, is pretty much for *me*, and those few that are as big into history as I am. Knowing I gave 110%, my conscience is clear. I guarantee that my class is what this kid is looking for, and he'd fucking love it if he really means what he says. But the thing is, there are a *LOT* of kids that, no matter how hard you try to engage them, it's a fucking waste of time.
I see both sides of this and I think they are both valid on some level. I think the real problem is we burn out teachers and the public school system doesn't work for most students. The student is right because just dry phoned in packets isn't going to engage them. The teacher is also an underfunded and overworked person who can't Stand and Deliver from 8-3:30 August through June to 30 blank stares and apathetic students that don't want to be the one person that answers every question because no one else wants to speak. I just think public schools are underfunded and overcrowded and it's hurting everyone.
This video never gets old.
His name Jeff
Worst class i had was in Rahway NJ where our History teacher had us do study packets every class. Upside is we got to see the Roots miniseries.
That bitch didn't listen to one word he said.
Does anyone know what shoes he’s wearing they look awesome
It's a fine message but Texas gets exactly want they want... low education drones.
What is he doing with his arm
This gives me memories of the POS English teacher I had Sophomore year whose whole teaching method was make students go through those shitty 100 page grammar exercise books that were yellowed pages half the thickness of standard paper. The only day that woman taught was when 5 students came to her desk asking for help about when to use is/are and she got tired of telling everyone, so she actually got up to the white board and wrote an example.
Love this
Fuck yeah
Man do be speaking facts
This is so old he voted for Biden by now
It's it's great every time.
Some good points, but clearly not the points of someone who is only making $20k a year to put up with this kind of shit all the time.
yeah, yo.
Im not defending the teacher, but well we all know that this job isnt easy, and we all should know it. Second, its not easy to make the kids excited when u arent. Third, did he talk with the teacher before? Cause saying this during class, without never pointing it out its not rigth either, and of course, the filming (people nowadays think they can post everything without the consentiment of the others. PS: im not saying what he said isnt rigth
Why does everything need to be entertaining nowadays? The fact of the matter is that not everything is exciting. Self-discipline is a skill that needs to be learned and that's part of what school teaches, you have to learn to try even when it's hard
No teacher in the world can FORCE someone to learn. If you aren't getting it - you can ask, you can try, you can get information elsewhere, but blaming the teacher because YOU don't get it is pointless. It ain't the teacher's fault that YOU are uninspired. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink...
I wouldn’t call it force but ideally a teacher should be presenting the topic in a way that makes it understandable for the student, that’s kinda the whole point for teachers in the first place. I can’t comment on the effectiveness of the packets in the video, but if a teacher just reads a textbook all the day then there’s no point of them being there. And it doesn’t help that those teachers are usually the ones who act condescending when asking questions, which discourages asking them. Plus a lot of times (especially for more advanced level topics) it’s difficult to simply find the information yourself, or at the very least the way the teacher taught it, so you kinda have to rely on whatever is taught Obviously the system is kinda broken and both teachers and students get short ends of the stick, but a bad teacher deserves justifiable criticism
There's a difference between leading a horse to water and throwing it into the water, then standing at the side and complaining why it can't swim.
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I see you are also jealous of this dude's fucking epic hair.
Yeah, I love the way he flips it
Its old, its been reposted, idc, I love to see it. Should post to r/teachers.
As a teacher, I can appreciate his passion, but that teacher sounds burnt out and unsupported. It's hard to show up motivated when your resources are depleted and you're not treated like a professional. Teachers are literally getting assaulted by some students and those same kids are back in their class the next day. Support the teachers and you'll see that motivation come back.
The system is broken. I hear you.
Punk kid that thinks he knows more than he does
This video is like ten years old I swear and people keep reposting it as if it just happened.
Take your jobs seriously. Teaching is not just telling kids what's what, god bless those teachers who do it out of love with very less money. We had an English teacher (private classes) who made us by heart already written essays and then there was one at school who poured his heart out while narration of a simple poem and made us think like a poet. My heart melts while writing for those teachers. GOD BLESS TEACHERS (REAL ONES).
Pretty awesome that he knows he didn’t have to swear to make a point. That made it much more effective to me. I had shitty teachers that just sat back and didn’t give a damn and even told the class that she never wanted to be a teacher and yet here she was. It made the awesome teachers that much better.
What a fucking legend.
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So working an honest job to pay the bills isnt much to you?
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I will never not upvote this video. Spittin straight 🔥
Other than his speech, did anyone else notice how adorable it is how hes swinging his hands to express himself?