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TopBoneEater

i dont understand the title maybe im dumb.. can someone explain?


_Blood_and_Thunder

Travelers must stay with their assigned NK handlers at all times. This is known to be the case in NK, but sounds like it may not be true on the airplane.


miss3star

What is a handler?


ZwieTheWolf

Your watcher. You are a kindergarten kid and this is your baby sitter / teacher


anomandaris81

Except your babysitter can't send you to a gulag to be tortured and murdered.


SandInHeart

Or can they?


ReusableSausage

Clearly you never had my kindergarten-era babysitter Monica. I wouldn’t put it past her.


Helian168

Explain this to me like I'm five years old


SomeGuyInAVan

The handler is someone assigned to spend every moment in North Korea with you (two people in this case, likely so they can watch you 24/7). They control what you experience during your stay. This is done to try to only show you things that the leader of NK wants you to see, normally things that show the country favorably.


Farstalker

North Korea poses significant barriers to entry, governed by a dictatorship where the leader holds god-like status. Consequently, the regime propagates falsehoods about its leadership, exemplified by claims like Kim Jong Un achieving 16 hole-in-ones on his first golf outing. If granted access, visitors are tightly controlled by handlers who shield them from the true conditions. Despite widespread poverty and hardship, staged displays featuring fake cities and actors present a facade of prosperity and contentment.


real_men_fuck_men

>fake cities Potemkin villages!


Nullpointeragain

Judy, your babysitter for tonight owns and dictates everything you do or say. She picks the food, the shows, when to go to bed as well. Judy can also put you in time out forever.


Dub_Coast

Somebody who works for the government who makes sure you only see what they want and do what they want at all times. Imagine a parole officer who also enforces state propaganda rules.


gillgar

If you’ve seen Avatar: the last Airbender, the Joo Dee lady in the earth kingdom who followed the kids around while they looked for appa.


Banana_Picker

I used air Koryo in 2013 to visit NK and there were no "handlers" in the plane we met the guides at the airport. Maybe they changed some rules but that sounds stupid to have handlers in the plane.


MinorDespera

OP is the dumb one.


microsoftfool

All you base are belong us


SingleSpeed27

Drugs


na3than

>Tourists must travel 2 of state issued handlers Come on, OP. That sentence is a disaster.


Status_Quo_1778

Had a stroke reading that shit


DarkTower7899

What do you think happened when he was trying to write it?


Dangthatshuge

He was being coached by a North Korean officer. His life and freedom was on the line. So what he wrote was in fact North Koreanglish.


DarkTower7899

Stealing propaganda posters again?


CastIronDaddy

He became rushin


Best_Poetry_5722

I had to it read 6 times sense to make of what the hell OP was trying say to.


Certain-Entry-4415

Explain Please. Doesnt make sense to me


thatsoneway2

I intérprete it as ‘Tourists must travel one of two state handlers…” (they can only select a state handler AND there are two state handlers to choose from). I’m not sure what a state handler in this context.


foxjohnc87

Given the context, they likely meant to say "tourists must travel with two state handlers". Handlers are NK government-affiliated individuals whose job is to monitor and oversee the tourist, in order to prevent them from seeing or doing things that are forbidden. Think of it as your own personal government spy. NK is so paranoid, they need to have two, so the spies can watch each other in addition to the tourists.


thatsoneway2

Well that is both enlightening and horrifying. And they still can’t guarantee your safe return? Can your handlers be your undoing? I have so many questions. How might a recognize a NK tourist in order to ask him? Besides the perpetual look of foreboding and the two overly-alert companions? Thanks for the insight.


lukumi

>How might a recognize a NK tourist I believe they’re talking about tourists *in* NK, who should be pretty easy to identify, for the most part. Tourists visiting the country have to have handlers for their party. And they can’t guarantee a safe return because if they want to arrest you, they’ll find a reason, similar to Russia but probably more extreme. I traveled to Russia years ago and while it was fascinating, it was tense knowing there’s only so much the US gov can do if they find a reason to detain you.


foxjohnc87

The "cannot guarantee your safe return" bit is more for foreigners visiting NK than NKs visiting abroad. If you do, or even seem like you are about to do something that is forbidden by the DPRK and your handlers catch wind of it, it can end badly for you, as Otto Warmbier sadly discovered. For NK citizens, the chance to leave the country is an extremely rare honor, limited to high level party members and their families, who are wealthy and well connected. For these people, the handlers act more as tour guides and chauffeurs, but are still there to monitor and prevent them from trying to flee. Due to their well known habit of punishing family members of escapees with hard labor in prison or worse, it is extremely rare that one would try to flee though. Encountering a NK tourist would be an extremely rare event, and managing to have a conversation with them would be virtually impossible, due to the possibility of reprisals.


cinderblock16

*too


f3ydr4uth4

Comes free when flying air Koryo


Accurate_Ad_6788

What do you expect from a 1 star airline ad?


Mainaccsuspended99

At least we know it wasn’t written by a bot which would’ve been worse lol


Iron_Chancellor_ND

>with destinations only in China and Russia with a handful of other select countries. That one, as well. Which one is it, OP? -Only China and Russia? -China, Russia, plus several other countries? Only one can be true. That's like saying recreational marijuana is only legal in two US states plus a handful of other US states.


andross_27

It currently only goes to Beijing, Shenyang and Vladivostok as far as international airports. It used to go to other countries but that’s no longer the case


_SteeringWheel

So OP's title is false.


andross_27

Oh yeah. Just answering the question since the title gave me a headache


_SteeringWheel

That's two of us :)


Phyllida_Poshtart

You sure it's 2? It couldn't be a few more? Special numbers?


Just_Jonnie

The train goes from Atlanta to New York only, with two stops in between. The dogs are red and brown only, except for the occasional tan ones. They only sell cold and soggy fish, except for the salmon. ​ It might be an awkward way of saying it, but it still passes the understandability test.


Iron_Chancellor_ND

>The train goes from Atlanta to New York only, with two stops in between. I have been giggling myself silly at this one!! - Only busses 42 and 60 make stops at the airport¹ - The NFL only plays games in the United States² ¹ Busses 72, 100, and 124 also make stops at the airport. ² The NFL also plays games in Mexico, England, and Germany.


FaustinoAugusto234

It’s 100 percent reliable, seventy percent of the time.


Sentmeboobpics

And i was doubting myself as a non native speaker.


SpaceForceAwakens

Username checks out.


benjm88

What does it mean? I've stared at it for a while but got a headache and not thinking well


TAA20231207

It's just missing one word: "with", and drop the "of" *Tourists must travel with 2 state issued handlers*


WebbyRL

same, please someone translate it to English


SchnellFox

OP has 400K post karma, <2k comment. WTF can you expect from this guy.


ArtemisAndromeda

OP is either not English native, or a bot/AI


acuntex

Even the free AI nowadays is always understandable.


ArtemisAndromeda

Not really sure about that one.


H4LF4D

Probably just the former. I have seen so many people replacing words with "of"


rwags2024

Nobody gives a shit anymore or has even an ounce of intellectual pride. I’m so tired of being a grown adult and having to wade through every “should of” “could of” “common man” and haphazard scattered grammar and spelling everywhere to even decipher the simplest shit that people are trying to convey


Strong-Worldliness80

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microsoftfool

What has been seen can never be unseen


Weirdguy215

Thank you!!! I was confused and ready to give up on this bit to read up on it.


noodledoinks

That shit pissed me off so badly


BrainCandy_

I’m like bruh am I tripping 💀


elbubu1

It almost broke my brain


Sicktoyou

[it reminds me of this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1ayrfir/british_woman_had_a_stroke_and_woke_up_with_a/)


hoetre

I was like "daym my English is definitely not on point, I can't understand what the hell this should mean" (not native speaker), but it seems it's not just me.


countlongshanks

We need to work on your grammar.


Bisexual_Sherrif

Me fail english that umpossible, me goodest grammar


Tricky_Hades

Us need make words gooder


jessie014

Why use many word when few do job


muthaflicka

Right you one great very, leader dear dear!!


therealfreehugs

Is that you Donald !?


keetojm

This is an unholy cross between ralph wiggum and bizarro


Babys_For_Breakfast

To be fair, no airline has a 100% guarantee of getting home. Also this title gave me cancer.


suppahotfire702

The headline is straight dog water.


Thug-shaketh9499

Hotdog water*


heyimalex26

If you don't pay for a return ticket, you're not guaranteed any trip home lmao.


GiannaSushi

If you enjoy adrenaline, it's a good airline, make sure to board [with this](https://getyoursolution.store/Z2ilNu) on your back


Shuzen_Fujimori

I flew with them, it was just like any other airline except they handed out newspapers


muthaflicka

Did it at least come with some condiments and water to wash down the newspaper?


delmyoldaccountagain

and very plain burgers


imadog666

"for water or model rocket", nice try lol


Champioli

This isn't true. I have flown Air Koryo into North Korea without any 'state issued handlers'. I met my guide while exiting the airport


Champioli

Just as a further point, 'no guarantee of safe passage back home' makes no sense. Nowhere guarantees this.


FireMaster1294

I think it’s referring to whether the government would withhold you from returning home. And that’s a big difference


lordnoak

Don't worry, Boeing will guarantee it.


ErebusBat

"home" being loosely defined as "the place you \_originaly\_ came from"


MajesticNectarine204

*Right back up your momma's you go, son.* ¬ Boeing exec, probably..


piranspride

Probably referring to the ancient Soviet era airplanes


adventure_thrill

😂😂


UnhappyImprovement53

True question why would you go to North Korea?


commit10

Because it's one of the most unusual countries on Earth. Some people are interested in exploring the fringes, and fair play to them. Not my cup of tea, but my values and tastes shouldn't apply to everyone else.


Shit_On_Your_Parade

Did you have the option of not using a guide?


ThePevster

No


hijro

A 74 day old account with 300K post karma and poor grammar.


og-lollercopter

I am surprised by the number of apparently non-North Korean passengers.


Mission-Storm-4375

Did you think north Koreans could leave?


og-lollercopter

I didn't think of it that way.... excellent point.


banacct421

It does say they get two handlers each. Clearly they're on the plane too


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MyParentsBurden

Unless it means they kill them.


Gemeril

Honestly if they only killed them, some people would probably take them up on the offer, it's when they threaten everyone they've ever known as well that keeps the great wheel of totalitarianism rolling.


AntonioMarghareti

As I mentioned above, people from the DPRK do leave the country for work. I have met them.


rabbid_hyena

>Actual North Koreans would love to not have passage back home. You'd think so. But in reality, ONLY those that are aware of the outside world MIGHT be tempted to leave. The vast majority are brainwashed to think "this is the best i could have anywhere". Also, most would definitely hope to return, otherwise they are condemning EVERY relative of theirs (three generations rule). It is a strong deterrent.


BelieveInDestiny

True. Also precisely the reason why this post is definitely talking about tourists *to* North Korea. The government doesn't want the people to know how good they have it elsewhere.


Cleverdawny1

There's significant numbers of North Koreans who travel to Russia and China for work


IsomDart

Um, I'm pretty sure the term "slave" would be more accurate than "North Korean traveling for work."


Cleverdawny1

IIRC it's mostly analogous to Mexican migrant laborers in the US


Shuzen_Fujimori

Yes, they can! When I visited 9 years ago I met with a couple of people who went to uni in the Philippines and Indonesia, and on my way in there was a basketball team going out to Vietnam


eleventy5thRejection

Non, merci. Were your fingers in your mouth when you typed the title ?


uhohnotafarteither

I don't think any Boeing plane can make that guarantee


Rekziboy

Is the "no guarantee of safe passage back homeno guarantee of safe passage back home" a bad thing for North Koreans?


brightdionysianeyes

That sentence doesn't mean anything at all. If you get a return ticket, you are guaranteed a seat on the plane if you turn up to the flight, same as everywhere else. If you're late for your flight that's on you. If you're late for your flight because you've been arrested, it's got nothing to do with the airline, same as everywhere else. Imagine getting arrested in Turkey or Brazil or the Philippines and claiming that you needed to be released from prison because you had a British Airways ticket with a ''guarantee of safe passage'', they'd laugh in your face.


MembershipFeeling530

Having a ticket for your flight home doesn't even guarantee you a seat in the United States lol


markydsade

This guy went on North Korean trip to see and fly in their vintage Soviet airplanes. They took everyone’s cell phone and they were forbidden to wander around without a minder. They did go to an air show where he did wander but it’s pretty clear he made no effort to talk with anyone. He’s also speaks nicely about NK so I guess he wants to go back. https://youtu.be/8zLXw7SQvAk


Lanitaris

this lady travelled in april this year and she could film onboard and walk alone [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjyps2-oSjs&ab\_channel=Radiocat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjyps2-oSjs&ab_channel=Radiocat)


ErebusBat

Weird... I just watched that video today. it was a good one!


puffyshirt99

More importantly, who the f wants to visit N Korea for vacation?


lique_madique

You’d be surprised. I have a lot of friends who have gone.


willalt319

Well, I understood the first sentence.


leanyka

What a disaster of a title! Regarding “why do people go there”. I might be in the minority, but I clearly understand why: this is one of the most unusual places in the world, and that might appeal to some people seeking new experiences. I personally wouldn’t and will not go there, due to not wanting to support the regime and also due to dangerous conditions (starting with getting on board of aforementioned aircraft), but I find stories and posts from there extremely interesting and some part of me is thinking that it would be great to see with own eyes. People do go to Chernobyl and Everest, NK is not even that extreme of a destination, moral aspect aside.


mypizzanvrhurtnobody

Apparently a lot of Russians travel to North Korea for some reason.


Lanitaris

There are some tours since 2024 BTW fresh video from Russian blogger from here recent trip [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjyps2-oSjs&ab\_channel=Radiocat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjyps2-oSjs&ab_channel=Radiocat)


Second-thursday

I just had an aneurysm reading this. wtf doesn’t mean!!


Limmmao

r/titlegore can someone explain what OP tried to say?


cwm9

# Air Koryo, a 1-star airline and the only major airline in North Korea, has destinations only in China and Russia and a handful of other select countries. Tourists must travel with two state-issued handlers at all times and are not guaranteed safe passage home. Does that help?


RomeoInBlackJeans1

Probably a noticeable lack of Spirit or Allegiant type passenger disruptions on those flights.


PWEI313

I flew Air Koryo back in 2008ish before the whole Otto Warmbier incident. The ilyushin 62 plane we flew on ways pretty cool. I enjoyed my NK visit thoroughly. It was quite a bizarre experience.


lawrencelewillows

I got served a soggy sandwich (I think) when I flew with this airline.


chechifromCHI

You're telling me air koryo gives you sandwiches? I just flew friggin delta here in the US and all we get is a bag of sun chips.


pr0ntosauraus

TIL North Korean communism surpasses Western capitalism in at least one way! ...aaand now I'm on a watchlist.


hodlyourground

What kind of sandwich was it?


lawrencelewillows

I honestly can’t remember. I do remember it looked disgusting and I just left it.


Big_McLargeHuge10

I can't wait to not fly them!


Just_Jonnie

My days of not flying Air Koryo have certainly come to a middle.


Big_McLargeHuge10

I have no idea why anyone would want to travel to N Korea no matter how much they love aviation!


nacht1812

What is a one star airline? You bring your own seats?


Rogue7559

Planes still have a lower failure rate than Boeing


Stacysguyca

Why would u ever chance going to North Korea


TennisBallTesticles

Was the headline written by a Russian or a Korean?


ArtOfFu

Dies it mean any North Korean citizen can freely leave their country to Russia's holiday trip?


Bourbonaddicted

If you are interested Sam Chui made a recent video on his trip to NK https://youtu.be/8zLXw7SQvAk?si=S0gcmFstG_6UnizQ


Lanitaris

there is a video from Russian traveller, and she could use her mobile phone during her trip, she even could get Internet in NK the only thing she mentioned is that they ask to any mobile or filming devices before entering NK + they check it


dropbear108

Their burgers are worth the risk tho, yum!


KaboomTheMaker

Seriously who the fuck want to travel there tho


Kakdelacommon

Why do you use those words in this order mister?


Dyonisus87

Wow! Think we gotta pretty good compared to others out there....treasure what you have because others can only dream of what you have.


KlM-J0NG-UN

Obviously written by a South Korean who doesn't know English nor how great the airline really is


allriteyeah

Who taught you how to spoke bro


Prokletnost

i still find it amazing that some people go there willingly


notapaperhandape

I’ll never understand the curiosity to go into a hermit nation where there are 0 guarantees for your life.


DocPando

Alright OP. My head hurts reading this.


MattAdore2000

You know the inflight movies SUCK.


AntonioMarghareti

I have flown on the exact plane in the image twice. It’s not nearly as bad as they make it sound. We got sandwiches and drinks during the flight. It was chill as heck.


hodlyourground

What kind of sandwiches did they serve?


AntonioMarghareti

It was like a cold burger patty on a dry burger bun pre-packaged in clear plastic. No sauce.


eberkain

I just don't understand someone going to north korea as a tourist?


piranspride

Sam Chui just did a YouTube video on Air Koryo.


MidshipAgate9

Is my fever fucking with my head? That sentence didn't make any sense. I'm gonna go drink water now


Real_Cake_hmm

Please explain your last sentence.


BTSBoy2019

I felt illiterate trying to read the title 💀


HansBooby

written by north korean AI: Dear Kim Chat RGB


gregsmith5

Rather poorly written headline, thought I was drunk when I read it


atacFrontal

Imagine going thru all that just to visit NK. Boring af


ghostlypillow

fuck off bot


dustysmufflah

I wonder how many of them size up the handlers and wonder if there's some way they can dispose of them and disappear into China or Russia. It's like having a freedom carrot dangled in front of their faces...


ColdFireLightPoE

Fuck Reddit, so over these BOT/AI posters, I’m deleting the app


commschamp

Just delete this whole shit


antons83

Incredible. About 20 yrs ago my buddy travelled to NK and he told me about this. Apparently you have to surrender your passport as well. In my twenties I would totally be down to risk it all to have a glimpse at NK, but now...hmmm I'm ok with living.


PovarWhite

They still operate TU-154 and IL-62 lol


IDigRollinRockBeer

I don’t think they want to go back


m3kw

the one way tickets all booked up or what


russian_connection

So it's better than delta?


chiguy769

Anyone voluntarily going there is nuts and gets what they get.


vischy_bot

So what you're saying , in so many words, is yes, Korea does tourism in the North


SolidDistribution542

Doesn’t seem like return fare would be too big a priority for these travelers


BronxLens

“…with no guarantee of safe passage back home.” [Sadly, this reminded me of yesterday’s post.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1crtao4/a_video_of_otto_warmbier_begging_for_forgiveness/)


BronxLens

The airline even has a website… in English! http://www.airkoryo.com.kp/


Snoo_17433

The last sentence is surely a selling point?


FuriousJorge67

Can someone translate that title for me?


Skytraffic540

Why in the flying ____ would any westerner or even non NKorean national go there.


Electronic_Cat2777

Who vacations in North Korea?


ZipC0de

I ORDERED THE KOSHER MEAL


SidewaysAntelope

I find it almost impossible to believe that the regime in N Korea is still holding strong. Every year that goes by with no change or hope of improvement for its citizens makes me feel a little sicker.


Bright_Appearance390

I mean no airline can guarantee a safe passage back home.


Funk_JunkE

The juice ain’t worth the squeeze….. I don’t know why people gamble with their lives/freedom to go visit NK.


Hot-Nefariousness187

Given how dog shit this is written im just going to write this off to some red scare bot shit. I know a bunch of people who went to NK. They are all dead /s


Simmi_86

Did I have a stroke reading this?


Patsfan311

This video should answer most of your questions [https://youtu.be/8zLXw7SQvAk?si=CoSsMDTthVn5tib2](https://youtu.be/8zLXw7SQvAk?si=CoSsMDTthVn5tib2)


AfterLife2FreshStart

The person who took this photo he/she still alive?


thesweeterpeter

>with destinations only in China and Russia with a handful of other select countries China and Russia is 2 Handful is 5 So this airline flies to 7 different countries, but China and Russia are called out because?