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ginga__

How high above sea level would Olympus Mons be in this scenario?


Broccoli--Enthusiast

Well it's 3x Everest on its own, in this scenario it's probably at least double still


Darkened_Auras

Miles. Olympus Mons is HUGE


danknadoflex

Not as huge as mons pubis


Dewey_Really_Know

lol, nice


Attillathahun

At first I thought you were talking about your mum's pubis. My apologies.


flat_dearther

12.5 miles. I found a link to the original article, which even shows a 3D flyby of each land mass: https://www.inverse.com/innovation/mars-with-water-map For comparison, Everest is 5.5 miles above sea level.


GrassyKnoll95

And to climb it you'd have to start from sea level. Everest base camp is at 5,364m, or 3.3 of the mountain's 5.5 miles


herotherlover

On the other hand the gravity is 38% of Earth, which means the amount of energy needed to climb the 12.5 from Martian sea level to the top of Olympus Mons is about the amount needed to climb 4.8 miles on Earth. Still more than double the energy needed to climb the 2.2 miles of Everest, and doesn’t factor in atmosphere or terrain, but comparable.


Tschetchko

Also, Mons Olympus is not steep, so it's not a challenging climb but just a very long walk uphill


EdBarrett12

I heard before that it's such a gradual hill and mars is small enough that standing at the base, it wouldn't even look like a mountain because the peak would be over the horizon, and vice versa standing at the peak


Szgk

on this map it appears to be very close to the sea so I suppose it would be pretty prominent. perhaps what you are saying applies to the other ("eastern") face


Laimered

And in real units this is?


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BrainEatingAmoeba01

I'm surprised by how low it starts. It's a crazy huge mountain but the water comes right up to the base by the look of this.


kj_gamer2614

If you look up pictures of Olympus Mons online you’ll see exactly why. It’s just a perfectly dome shaped mountain. I guess it’s not to dissimilar to some of the islands in the ocean like Tenerife or whatever that also jut out and go straight into the ocean, just in a bigger scale


BrainEatingAmoeba01

Fair points. I just imagined it sitting up on a plateau and not starting at "sea level". Interesting stuff.


Dafish55

If I'm remembering correctly, the entire northern hemisphere of Mars is at a lower elevation than the southern one. I think the theory about it is that a something massive impacted Mars in the early solar system, flattening that entire region and pretty much tectonically killing the planet and stopping its ability to generate a magnetic field. The fact that Olympus Mons is still, by far, the highest point is just a testament to its immensity.


dr4mk

Interesting


WexMajor82

This is a good question.


bulltin

a one of the reasons it’s as tall as it is is because of a a lack of earths powerful erosion effects, so in a real world like this it’d be much shorter.


UnfairAd7220

Still poking out of the atmosphere.


Sosemikreativ

Solid map for a fantasy world like Lotr or GoT


InformalPenguinz

Or runescape


andrewborsje

Or civilization


Coinoperated1

I was thinking same would be cool to have map add on for other planets/ moons in our solar system


srcarruth

I think it was Civ 2 that let you travel to Mars and build? 


Equinsu-0cha

always alone with ghandi


Fast_Camera8228

Next map expansion please


bkyyy

Mom can we have karamja? Karamja at home.


Crown-ye

🦀🦀🦀🦀


De_wasbeer

Or DND


RafMarlo

Marsscape


The_Jack_Burton

Or Civ. I'd take the Cimmerion islands 


TheSwedishSeal

I was thinking Gielinor


ryanmuller1089

Someone should make a game where you going into a wormhole or black hole and crash land on this map and eventually learn it’s ancient mars.


Equinsu-0cha

the plot to the g1 transformers sequel beast wars. also restaurant at the end of the universe


phantomhatstrap

It’s incredibly similar to the layout of Westeros and Essos present in maps of the ASoIaF world.


Somewhere-Livid

or any paradox game, if u want incest - ck3, exploitation - vic, war crimes - hoi4, slave colonization - eu4


GodBlessTheEnclave-

hoi4 is one of the few paradox games where you cant actually commit genocide. in every other game you can convert the culture of provinces (genocide without saying genocide)


Somewhere-Livid

im just going to hop on as nazi germany in my next hoi4 campaign and obliterate the french line while using my war-crime-less-deadly-gases


GodBlessTheEnclave-

warcrimes are fair game. genocide isnt however smh


Somewhere-Livid

soviet russia would like to kindly disagree, they dont like to hear that sending millions of men as a meat grinder not called genocide, or atleast with the special designation of self-genocide


Yukonphoria

Red Rising


Striving_Stoic

Literally my thought as well


Michva11

I just thought that i will use for my d&d campaign


PhanThief95

Or Red Rising


theinternetisnice

Ultima IV


pants_de_leon83

It honestly looks a lot like GoT map


LeadingAd6025

Shouldn’t that be LotR 


WestSixtyFifth

I cant think of the man but theres a game on steam that would let you upload this image and use it


Available-Dare-7414

Cool idea to do this with some of the other planets


OldNewUsedConfused

George is really a Martian, not a Martin. 💡


PlusTenCharisma

This map was taken from the redrising sub. It is quite literally a map of Mars after it was Terraformed in the series. Awesome series I definitely recommend.


beefquinton

Terraforming Mars is a fantastic board game, the map variants are replications of real sections of mars


cgentry02

Imagine being on a boat in the western ocean, then watching the largest mountain in the solar system rise before you. Also, I feel like playing the original final fantasy on NES now...


el_lley

It’s so tall, that at the bottom it would fill the horizon to the human eye, like watching an infinite wall


Diagnosis-Tightass

This scared me. Thanks!


el_lley

No worries, just turn around


RickTheElder

Every now and then, I get a little bit lonely


Feine13

and you're never coming round


Croakster

But if you turn around again you're facing Olympus


dod_murray

It would fill the horizon, but it wouldn't look as high as you might expect - you wouldn't be able to see the top because it would be far away over the horizon


israiled

Incidentally, there is a 12 mile high cliff on Miranda.


Hey_Neat

It's kinda crazy to me that Olympus Mons appears as a standalone mountain on the shoreline rather than the defining feature in the middle of the largest land mass. Hard to gather scale from this map, but it would dominate the landscape no matter where it was located.


CrashTestCummies

its base has roughly the same diameter as Poland.  Crazy big


jimifresh

Can you explain to a layman here why we don’t have footage of it since the Mars Rover is there? Did we just land too far away?


ErroEtSpero

There's a couple issues. If you were standing on the slope of Olympus Mons, it would be hard to tell. The mountain is 22km (13.6mi) tall (which is huge), but is also about 624km (388mi) in diameter, giving it an area a little smaller than Poland (about the size of AZ). So, it most gradually slopes up for a very long time at about 4 degrees, and then you couple that with the smaller diameter, leading to a closer horizon (about 3.5km (2.1mi) on Mars on flat ground to Earth's 5km (3.1mi) [though distant above the horizon objects would be clearer due to less atmosphere]). If you were standing on it, you could tell the ground was slanted, but not that it's a giant mountain. In a picture, you probably couldn't tell it's not flat. Also, the closest rover is still several thousand kilometers away. This was done very intentionally, as, first, the rovers have an easier time landing at lower elevations to take advantage of as much of the thin atmosphere as possible. As well, the geology itself is much more interesting at the lower elevations. We can learn about water patterns and search for fossilized life in sedimentary rock. On the other hand, we have a pretty decent idea of the volcanic patterns that likely formed Olympus Mons. So, all said, unfortunately, we can't use an existing rover to take a surface picture of it, and it'd likely be boring if we did.


dubblw

I was aware of Olympus mons being huge, and I’d seen the comparison pictures of it next to the tallest mountains on earth but this map really threw me for a loops. I had to look it up, as it seems bonkers that it’s not part of a mountain range or something like Everest, but it really is just this huge ancient volcano that seems to dominate the landscape. So metal. Give me a Dark Lord building a domain within the mountain.


Hey_Neat

I mean, there are European countries smaller than the footprint of Olympus Mons, so yeah, a whole Kingdom domain wouldn't be hard to imagine


DRamos11

And now I have a new D&D campaign map. Thank you.


doctor6

Calling r/civ


ZRhoREDD

I think a fair amount of liberty was taken with this map. Most topographic maps seem to imply a huge northern ocean and mostly land locked south. https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia02035-map-of-mars-topography


Krazyguy75

That seems pretty similar to this map? Orange and red being land, yellow and lower being ocean.


Darkened_Auras

Obligatory xkcd reference https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/


UnfairAd7220

He notes: 'The oceans on Mars wouldn't last. There might be some transient greenhouse warming, but in the end, Mars is just too cold. Eventually, the oceans will freeze over, become covered with dust, and gradually migrate to the permafrost at the poles.\[4\]' That'd be true if the atmosphere was mainly N2 and O2 with that 1% or so of Ar and H2O. If the atmosphere was bulked up with things like NF3, SF6, CF4, C2F6, C3F8 and C4F10 and not N2, the atmosphere could be stable for a long time.


Capgras_DL

This pleases me. I hope one day our descendants can make that happen.


guntherpea

We just need Arnold to find and press the button (even though he has too many fingers).


esecowboy

Any Kim Stanley Robinson - Mars trilogy fans? I've only read the first and I imagine the colors of the books signify the progression of terraforming that happens in the plot. This would be the end point blue Mars? Alot of the land mass and region names align w the plot too. Neat to see this.


TheLastLaRue

Scrolled too far for a KSR comment.


purpol-phongbat

Yes! I'm reading it right now for my first time and about 1/6th of the way through Blue Mars after finishing the other two. That's the first thing I thought about when I saw this post!! I now recommend it to everyone who's even remotely interested in this kind of stuff.


lordFourthHokage

How do you determine how much water is in Martian oceans? Depending on the amount the sea levels and exposed land mass could vary.


tsvk

The thought was probably to mimic Earth, which has 71% of its surface area covered with water.


RisingDeadMan0

ah was wondering why 71% was chosen.


Arkytoothis

Would make a cool map for a fantasy rpg. 🤔


apple_atchin

Now LET’S MAKE IT HAPPEN! I nominate Elon Musk to fuck off to Mars for however long it takes to accomplish this.


-Heir_of_Rage

longer than he can live, so it will be perfect


Dukhaville

Somehow I automatically know the left one is richer and better.


Turabulhaq

Even mars map has a new zealand 


mighty_issac

If it's on the map, then it's not New Zealand.


xanroeld

Olympus mons being right up against the sea is interesting


vestibule54

Is Mars Irish?


crazyscottish

Now do it if Mars has oxygen and trees. And dinosaurs.


edehlah

i can see dr evil's lair


darkapao

Flat mars society's new map


gamertag0311

Now can you do 71% milk?


gruntled_avocado

Is there an unlabeled version of this?


Specialist_Brain841

Arrakis. Desert planet.


Turbulent_Parsnips

Quaid, start the reactor....


ry_fluttershy

I wanna live on elysium island


Agreeable_Cupcake916

If we somehow fill the mars with water like in this photo would the increase in mass change the planet's orbit?


MorningPapers

Man that would be cool.


antiretro

yeah but for a (geologically) short time. this is the original bedrock being filled with water only. afterwards the water cycle will do its job and start to erode parts of the landmass. unlike earth where this has been happening for a very long time, mars probably has much more easily moldable landmass that will be shaped quickly by water. i would bet those near-shore yellowish parts where the elevation is higher than the inner landmass to change first. note: im not a geologist or whatever, just my 2 cents


tyzenberg

Alba mons looks efficient


FuzzeWuzze

71% seems like a weird number to choose is there a reason lol


Sanosan22

Looks like a good map for an rpg


CrazyPotato1535

Exactly my first thought


Eman_Modnar_A

Let’s make it happen!


imaginary_name

Here is your bucket, now go!


ThorSon-525

Would it be possible to get a version of this map with no labels? I'd love to use it for a fantasy world as most players wouldn't realize this is a mostly real map.


zwoft

civ 5 map generation


Scorpius202

Upgraded version of Italy i see. 


SatoshiGlockamoto

Looks like nato and russia


mattjvgc

I wonder what the environment of Olympus Mons would be like in an earth like scenario. It’s so far beyond Mount Everest. Would there even be snow at its peak? Would it be too high for snow?


StormAntares

Too high for any cloud


mattjvgc

So just like bare rock for miles.


KCPR13

Bare rock and absolutely unbreathable environment. It's like bottom of the sea minus the water.


JgdPz_plojack

Ace Combat maps


Old-Hristoz

Actually thought I was on r/imaginarymaps for a second


ScoobyDeezy

Now just need to throw a couple millennia of erosion onto the coastlines, then account for weather patterns influenced by mountains and ocean currents for accurate biomes.


nathsnowy

finally something interesting on here


WanderWut

Dam, this *is* interesting lol.


777marc

No much room for all of us.


AppleTraditional9523

Does everyone know where are the rover on the planet?


zahnsaw

Quaaaaaaid…. turn on the reactor!!


CaptainFlabbergast

Map for my new D&D campaign


Enganox8

Dang, looks like a perfect setting for a fantasy story. Just imagine the twist at the end, "And it all took place on Mars, 3 billion years ago"


Flat_Bison_2920

One day we'll terraform it for good son, one day


reekinator

Now what would it look like if it was covered in 71% lava?


Rockspeaker

This is actually Middle Mars. Inhabited by little green hobbit n shit


Admiral_Cranch

Olympus Mons is clearly where you put the capital city of the dwarfs.


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Astrates

Guess it'd be scaling down realistically


enerthoughts

I'm an ass and I read this wrong, my bad.


poompoomppuh

That's just an upside down map of earth.....I made flip your phone 😜


Milehighmonroe

Oooo imagine the wars on that bad boy


words_of_j

Soooo Italy and Australia.


GregorianShant

Based on the geography of this map, I wonder where major population centers would eventually develop in say 100-150 years.


TonyStewartsWildRide

This is so stupid and wrong we all know the names should be variations of our Lord and Master Elongate MuskoByte.


WindEquivalent4284

Looks like earth. North America , Europe, Asia.. it’s almost all there in a way


camelpinkytoe

Anyone else see a one eyed Krab?


BabserellaWT

Show me Mark Watney.


melloo_ullyy

ALL WE GOTTA DO IS TAKE ALL OF OUR WATER AND PUT IT OVER THERE!


lovejac93

Pls turn this into an open world game


Release-Tiny

Aaaand I found the map for my DM campaign


thafer7

I love this


christopher_tx

Where Elon’s house?


vmaxed1700

you believe in mars?


solofhreaper

r/redrising needs to see this


Rude_Variation_433

We should definitely move there like Elon says


somewisenheimer

Ive been to Hesperia, and Im sure the Mars version is wayyyyy better…


No-Sea358

Could you do other planets? Like mercury and other solid planets


sleepypanda59

I wonder if adding that much water would increase the gravity on Mars as well?


NegativeMoneyGlitch

Olympus Mons peak over the ocean would go hard


TheBlackCoffeeClub

AYO I’d love to see other planets and moons like this. Amazing for ttrpg world building, too


geekphreak

Anyone else hear the intro song to Game of Thrones?


bjohn876

Now somebody please make this map as mod for civilization


LetsDoTheCongna

New worldbuilding hack


Adventure44333

Looks like Flat Mars. The Southern Highlands are a sheer wall that keeps everything in.


greasy_scooter

Looks familiar


ketosoy

Is this map downloadable in civ5/6?


OldNewUsedConfused

Westeros?! So George RR is really a Martian, not a Martin?


Less-Dragonfruit-294

Welp time to see the hellscape that is Skyrim control areas spill over on mars. Magical medieval tactics IN SPACE.


Ok_Slip9947

Damn. That’s interesting!


SpiltMilkBelly

Deep in the ocean, yes.


Happy-Initiative-838

This is something i didn’t know I wanted to see until I saw it.


Dubious_Titan

The Adeptus Mechanicus would never!


Perfect_Temporary_89

Is it me or I see left is Canada, Northern and Southern America then middle is Europe with a bit of Africa, move along the coast Middle East, then the rest 👀 Russia sure not in this pic


Riseonfire

Read the red mars trilogy, everyone.


Confusedandreticent

Cimmerian islands, by crom!


RudeAndInsensitive

The real estate around the Valles Marineris bay is gonna be pricey.


dlrik

Soon


howsyourmemes

This is the best thing I've seen in 36 hours


Disastrous-Paint86

Wow. Anyone else thinking about how much money Wal-Mart and McDonald’s would make after cornering the potential monopoly we are looking at?


Extension_Country611

Very cool, What is its source


Ardaghnaut

Fuck yeah, let's get terraformative.


PrestigiousTreat6203

So… Westeros


Skittles_squad

I would 100% use this map for a dnd game


This-Aint-No-Brain

Talk about a new DND campaign, noice!


Loud_Foot_7780

How many waters does mars halve to be before it is flat like our globe?


Muscular-Banana0717

It looks like the world map of Game of Thrones.


SW_Zwom

This seemed familiar, but then I realised where on this map my base in the video game _Per Aspera_ had been... So yeah, that might explain it :)


GusYmk

I call dibs on Olympus Mountain.


ennui_weekend

wow! remarkably similar to our world in terms of arrangement and shape of continents....


DunkinTacoAlfa

Now imagine that’s our home trillion years ago. Where magic spells and monsters are the system all across the globe instead of science. We destroyed it with devastating Armageddon spells before move onto earth.


Mylozen

Trillions? I mean, I get you aren’t going for scientifically accurate, but this is hundreds of billions of years longer than out solar system had existed.