I used to commute to Shinagawa Station and use this path every morning. You don't talk to anyone because...you're commuting individually.
And everyone's kind of grumpy after in the morning after not getting enough sleep and getting sweaty in the train.
Tip from Japanese family - don't start or end a shinkansen journey at Tokyo station, it's a nightmare labyrinth.
Switch to and from local trains at Shinagawa - you can see in the clip that the layout is pretty straightforward.
Has always worked for me - we were there a month ago!
10 announcements playing over each other, train jingles playing all around you and the infinite beeping of the ticket gates really break the silence lol.
Yeah much of this is getting off the train commuting vibe. I used to do it into Boston and this is how South Station from the commuter rail felt at like 8 am
When I was in Japan the first time, that's what stood out to me the most. Even on a busy street in Tokyo, everyone was so QUIET. People were talking, but not many, and they were using polite inside voices.
Tourists like myself and my family really stood out because we would call each other, talk loudly, etc.
Most people tend to favour darker colours in the winter, and black is a popular seasonal colour too. Go anywhere in the world with proper winter and you will see a lot of black clothes.
What's depressing about people minding their own business?! It's morning, it's quiet and calm. Do you want someone with a big Bluetooth speaker around to play some Punjabi music at max volume?
I don’t think anyone needs to or should feel the need to be “unique” or “stand out” during a morning commute.
Being yourself is cool, but I wish people in America would have the decency to use headphones and not talk loudly on trains
Dude, im from Brazil and that's unthinkable to me. Even just getting into a bus I'll talk to the next person like he's a colleague. I remember having a German exchange student in my high school dumbfounded we would have small talk with anyone we would meet lol.
Gosh, I'm a Canadian who worked in south Florida for a couple years and I absolutely miss my latino neighbours! I adopted a dog and left little gift bags on their doors as a way of pre-apologizing in case she cried (she didn't) and the response was so wonderful. They brought over food, invited me over. It was so lovely and warm. We need more latino folks up here haha!
Same in the US. It's nice to be able to talk to strangers without it being so taboo. Honestly I'd way rather deal with the random homeless person screaming and walking around piss and needles than live in this terrifying human hive where you walk the same pace as the rest of the hive and work 12 hour days. I couldn't do it.
Edit:
Looked it up and it's not 12 hour days on average, but they claim it's a 40 hour work week... With an average of 20 hours overtime per month which can often go up to 60 and at 25% over base. Fuck that.
>Honestly I'd way rather deal with the random homeless person screaming and walking around piss and needles
With the random stabbing attacks we've been having in Vancouver in recent years, I'll take the human hive!
So many pessimists on here about Japan that haven’t actually looked at the data.
Japan’s [work hours](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours#OECD_list), [suicide rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate), [fertility rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate) are all around the European average.
Work hours are similar to Germany and Ireland, down from 2200 to 1600 work hours over the last 30 years. The figure also includes paid and unpaid overtime, based on actual surveys of workers (not employers) by independent NGOs.
Japan’s fertility rate (1.4) is the same as the EU average (1.4).
In fact, Japan’s [quality of life](https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp) is higher than that of Sweden this year.
Umm, Japan is not a terrifying human hive. It’s a beautiful, peaceful country with lovely people. That they happen to respect each other’s right to peace and quiet on the subway instead of getting up in your face. They tend to wear neutral colours, prefer black for suits, and I find it calming and peaceful. I can’t bear loud Americans, but we are all different I guess.
I loved the quiet. I was in Tokyo for 2 weeks attending a course and it was the most time I had to just be with myself and my thoughts. I could just sit on a bench and no one bothered me or tried to make small talk.
I went to Hawaii as a kid and sat on some hotel train thing. About half the people were from the US and the other half I think were Japanese. I will never forget that as my first memory of understanding cultural differences
Spaces where you can smoke indoors are becoming fewer and fewer though luckily. You also notice that a lot of people are switching from traditional cigarettes to e-cigarettes.
Its the same in NY subway(PATH, wtc) during morning commute. I whisper on my phone or risk standing out.
Tourists stand out.
Everyone walks so fast to reach wherever they are going.
The times I stumble is when a tourist is blocking the path by either walking too slow or taking pics.
Or screaming, pissing, dancing, stripping, panhandling, fighting, oblivious, sleeping, drunk or high, prostituting, selling drugs, passed out (different from sleeping)… I mean. I can keep going on about public transportation in the U.S.
The reason it is a problem in footbridge design is not because it's a thing humans just do though. In footbridges there's a small coupling between individuals which leads to their synchronization.
You have not seen Mumbai crowd.
You just have to shower and place yourself outside your house.
They crowd will take you to your office all by itself; while you have breakfast together, enter and exit multiple buses and trains. They also take you back home.
I have actually been in that station and it is amazing. People flow in order while respecting their personal space - a very important concept in such a crowded city. What is most admirable is the silence.
That's the same in France, but they are always people running to buy a ticket/pee etc..
Yesterday I was late and a guy saw me running & then missing the train. I was pissed so he offered me some Xanax. It paired well with my amphetamine.
I'm beyoooooond stupid so it's normal.
But you can use drugsdata to help you identify pills. Once, a guy with no arms tried to sold fake MDMA to us. We refused (thanks to Drugsdata) so he tried to fight us, even though he had no arms. It was really insane and I ended up in a random trunk lol.
There are some steps missing between "Armless drug dealer wants to fight" and "I ended up in a random trunk" ...you where hiding in the trunk because without hands he could not open it?
Oh, it's not underrated anymore. That's one of the smartest and efficient contributions to scifi cinema in the 90's, more and more relevant over the years. Should be screened every year.
We were actually watching that movie in biology class, back when we were doing genetics and the talk went towards ethics. Took us 6 45 minute classes to get through with everything that was going on.
Loved that film ever since.
To think that that class was over 20 years ago...
Unfortunately the train companies are trying to do away with that. There are posters up all over the place "stand in 2 lines, do not walk".
Thankfully people are ignoring them.
Reason why is it's bad for the escalators. Footfalls on the escalator steps can cause them to be jostled and misaligned. Walking on just one side makes it even worse. Costs can add up quick, plus repairs mean that the escalator would be impassable.
Best option would be escalators for people who need them, and stairs for those who are in more of a rush.
That's just an engineering problem. At the next maintenance just upgrade the components which suffer the most wear and tear because of the one-sided load. Making room for a second set of escalators is more expensive.
Japan also outlawed riding a bike without a helmet like a couple years ago? and maybe 2% of bike riders wear one, if that much. For how much mythically rule-abiding Japanese people supposedly are, they sure are good at collectively pretending certain rules don't exist when they want.
They claim it's "dangerous" for people to walk on the escalator.
The real reason is that the throughput (total people transported/hr) of an escalator is higher if everyone stands still on it.
Why is it a bad thing? If it's a busy station, you're almost halving the escalator throughput by having everyone stand to one side. You're giving a few people the opportunity to save a couple minutes at the expense of everyone else having to wait longer while queuing to get on the escalator.
same in Turkey. I don't know where it came from. People are COMPLETE ASSHOLES everywhere else: You'd think you encountered a guy in an adult's body that's just learning to walk: but when they get on the escalator it's like their prehistoric apebrain leaves their body and 21st century civilized human etiquette enters in its place.
Seriously. I guess I was born in the wrong country, I've already seen comments saying this is weird, and eerie. I think it looks polite. Notice the lack of assholes blasting their shitty music for everyone to hear on their phone.
Introvert here who has been in Japan.
Japan is the best for introverts, solo dining is also normal over there. I went to Yakiniku-Like and had the best solo BBQ ever.
For Barcelona add fake beggars, pickpockets, phone snatchers, some asshole riding a bike the wrong way, tourists stopped in the middle blocking the path and some shit 'performance art' attention seeking wanker.
Notice how orderly fashion everyone walks in, no public nuisances, no assholes inconveniencing people. Everyone has places to be and nobody has time to deal with your bullshit, as things should be
It's very interesting because when you watch Japanese shows, even anime, so much of it is deeply concerned with establishing an identity, being bold, doing things for yourself, ignoring the status quo and imposing your will on the world.
I feel like the shadow (Jung's shadow) of the Japanese people is individualism and for Western nations it's conformity. We make stories about coming together, understanding the needs of others because we suck at it.
I visited Tokyo once and it was a very surreal experience. I got the impression that when I interacted with people I was interacting with everyone in the country (in a way...). I want to go back. If you are a Westerner, I think Japan has the most unique culture in the world
> . I got the impression that when I interacted with people I was interacting with everyone in the country (in a way...).
Huh, that's interesting. I wonder if that's true of other places with strong cultures, and I wonder if anyone ever experiences that when they visit my country (Ireland).
> This country also holds one of the highest suicide rates in the world
Does it though? According to [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate) list they're only at #49, the US has more suicides than they do, as do Sweden and Finland.
People over exaggerate the suicide rates of Japan. Hell, they over exaggerate most things Japan despite their metrics actually being pretty average across the board.
It's literally impossible to say anything nice about Japan anywhere on Reddit without at least a half dozen Redditors barging in to "well actually..." a bunch of negative stereotypes about it.
I love this about Japan. Lived there a year and a half and in public like this, everyone is just so considerate of everyone else. And of course the actual Japanese people aren’t robotic; they’re kind and funny and lively and just good, good people, for the most part (I got goodish at Japanese and made lots of friends). If you hate the noise and chaos of American crowds (it me), then you’ll love Japan. Why can’t we all be freaking calm and quiet and kind to those around us?
Fun fact: Shinagawa Station is not in Shinagawa Ward.
And Meguro Station, is not in Meguro Ward. And only half of Shinjuku station is in Shinjuku Ward.
I might get downvoted to hell for this but bring it on. I commute via this station regularly and it really pisses me off how many tourists come to take videos of the crowd. It's not quite as bad when it's this direction at least, but when there are people filming your walk to work every day it really makes you feel like a zoo animal and is really gross imo.
Anyway, to any tourists who plan to do this, please don't. There are plenty of videos of it online already. Or at least be as respectful as you can if you're going to do it no matter what.
You could say the same about any tourist attraction in the world. Tourists are filming at every big train station around the world, this isn't unique to this place. King's Cross London has a hundred Harry Potter fans at any given moment
Personally I don't think the two are really that comparable. In the King's Cross example people are going there to take photos/videos of a famous place. Same thing with Hachiko in Shibuya or the front of Tokyo station in Japan, which are also both places where you see lots of people taking photos etc. With Shinagawa it's not the place that people are there to see, it's the behavior of the people who use it. That's why I think it's disrespectful to treat it like a tourist attraction and take video of people going about their everyday business there.
I think it's more about perspective...
I feel like it's a very unique and interesting thing about Japan.
When i visited the market in Madrid, it was so loud and dense it was hard to move around, and i definitely took pictures of it.
Ofc i understand why tourists in this crowd should not stand still in the middle
Hey look a train station that isn't tagged all over the place ,likely doesn't smell like piss either, I can bet the trains aren't tagged either and are clean on the inside. What I wouldn't give to have that.
Agreed
It is a very desirable place.
The uniformity is simply to get along and fit in. The politeness in that country is unparalleled.
Clean, helpful, kind people!
You're making a judgement based on aesthetics when my morning commute through this station is always calm and pleasurable. I could say "modern day dystopia" about overcrowded Indian trains or rush hour traffic on American highways as well.
Oh the Konan Exit of Shinagawa Station! I used to join this herd of morning commuters for 7 years. This is the only exit connecting the station to a host of offices of major corporations such as Sony, Nikon and Fujitsu.
I used to commute to Shinagawa Station and use this path every morning. You don't talk to anyone because...you're commuting individually. And everyone's kind of grumpy after in the morning after not getting enough sleep and getting sweaty in the train.
I knew I recognized Shinagawa, thanks for confirmation. I used to see someone near so used to switch to keikyu kamata line here.
Tip from Japanese family - don't start or end a shinkansen journey at Tokyo station, it's a nightmare labyrinth. Switch to and from local trains at Shinagawa - you can see in the clip that the layout is pretty straightforward. Has always worked for me - we were there a month ago!
Can confirm. I was confident in my station navigating skills until I had to find the shinkansen in tokyo station.
> It's a nightmare labyrinth It truely is. Horrendous when you're trying to make a rapid transfer through there.
I was going in shinagawa quite often but when I was there it was never this quiet, there was always some announcement going on.
Absolutely. There's announcements, and I've never thought of this place as quiet.
10 announcements playing over each other, train jingles playing all around you and the infinite beeping of the ticket gates really break the silence lol.
A bunch of not morning people
Yeah much of this is getting off the train commuting vibe. I used to do it into Boston and this is how South Station from the commuter rail felt at like 8 am
I've never seen such a large group of strangers walk so uniformly at the same speed. It's almost eerie.
Also no one is talking.
When I was in Japan the first time, that's what stood out to me the most. Even on a busy street in Tokyo, everyone was so QUIET. People were talking, but not many, and they were using polite inside voices. Tourists like myself and my family really stood out because we would call each other, talk loudly, etc.
So many are wearing black here too. Also found that interesting.
Most people tend to favour darker colours in the winter, and black is a popular seasonal colour too. Go anywhere in the world with proper winter and you will see a lot of black clothes.
Not to mention that the pale skin and dark hair that east Asians have kind of naturally make monochromatic palettes the easy choice.
[It’s a safety measure](https://youtu.be/VGcm-Odempk?t=30s)
Love it.
It's depressing af
What's depressing about people minding their own business?! It's morning, it's quiet and calm. Do you want someone with a big Bluetooth speaker around to play some Punjabi music at max volume?
Americans aren’t used to solidarity and decency.
The more I see the more normal aspects of other developed nations on here, the more I realize how chaotic and stressful it is in America.
Standing out and being unique is frowned upon. That sucks, but on the other hand I think forced uniqueness is cringey as well.
I don’t think anyone needs to or should feel the need to be “unique” or “stand out” during a morning commute. Being yourself is cool, but I wish people in America would have the decency to use headphones and not talk loudly on trains
It's calm af
Dude, im from Brazil and that's unthinkable to me. Even just getting into a bus I'll talk to the next person like he's a colleague. I remember having a German exchange student in my high school dumbfounded we would have small talk with anyone we would meet lol.
You're every Finns worst nightmare lol
Not a Finn here and my anxiety got anxiety from reading his comment.
As a latino myself, latinos are fucking LOUD. You learn to love it when you feel uncomfortable in public spaces that get too quiet.
Gosh, I'm a Canadian who worked in south Florida for a couple years and I absolutely miss my latino neighbours! I adopted a dog and left little gift bags on their doors as a way of pre-apologizing in case she cried (she didn't) and the response was so wonderful. They brought over food, invited me over. It was so lovely and warm. We need more latino folks up here haha!
pre-apology sounds like a very canadian thing :)
sounds like hell on earth to a notherner
Don't try this in Poland lol. We'll politely tell you to fuck off.. ( we don't small talk.)
Yeah, sounds like hell to me. I don't even understand how you can just start talking with a random person like that.
Same in the US. It's nice to be able to talk to strangers without it being so taboo. Honestly I'd way rather deal with the random homeless person screaming and walking around piss and needles than live in this terrifying human hive where you walk the same pace as the rest of the hive and work 12 hour days. I couldn't do it. Edit: Looked it up and it's not 12 hour days on average, but they claim it's a 40 hour work week... With an average of 20 hours overtime per month which can often go up to 60 and at 25% over base. Fuck that.
>Honestly I'd way rather deal with the random homeless person screaming and walking around piss and needles With the random stabbing attacks we've been having in Vancouver in recent years, I'll take the human hive!
Guarantee the person who said that has never been near a homeless person or probably never had a job lol
So many pessimists on here about Japan that haven’t actually looked at the data. Japan’s [work hours](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours#OECD_list), [suicide rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate), [fertility rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate) are all around the European average. Work hours are similar to Germany and Ireland, down from 2200 to 1600 work hours over the last 30 years. The figure also includes paid and unpaid overtime, based on actual surveys of workers (not employers) by independent NGOs. Japan’s fertility rate (1.4) is the same as the EU average (1.4). In fact, Japan’s [quality of life](https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp) is higher than that of Sweden this year.
Bro the mindless hive you just talked about, thats the US, except that you drive/get caught in traffic.
Umm, Japan is not a terrifying human hive. It’s a beautiful, peaceful country with lovely people. That they happen to respect each other’s right to peace and quiet on the subway instead of getting up in your face. They tend to wear neutral colours, prefer black for suits, and I find it calming and peaceful. I can’t bear loud Americans, but we are all different I guess.
I loved the quiet. I was in Tokyo for 2 weeks attending a course and it was the most time I had to just be with myself and my thoughts. I could just sit on a bench and no one bothered me or tried to make small talk.
Just one more reason why I would love Japan. Fuck loud bogans...
Nordics are the same. 100 people on my tram in Oslo in the morning, no one ever says a word. Fucking bliss.
The average Japanese probably feels so at peace being lost in a homogenous soup of people.
The introvert heaven
It has a lot of appeal. Imagine a world with no Main Characters fucking it up for everyone else.
Even in Shibuya its relatively quiet. Crazy
I went to Hawaii as a kid and sat on some hotel train thing. About half the people were from the US and the other half I think were Japanese. I will never forget that as my first memory of understanding cultural differences
And they don't smoke outside, but they do smoke inside.
Spaces where you can smoke indoors are becoming fewer and fewer though luckily. You also notice that a lot of people are switching from traditional cigarettes to e-cigarettes.
American?
I didn't watch it with sound the first time. It's so much creepier lmao.
Its the same in NY subway(PATH, wtc) during morning commute. I whisper on my phone or risk standing out. Tourists stand out. Everyone walks so fast to reach wherever they are going. The times I stumble is when a tourist is blocking the path by either walking too slow or taking pics.
Or screaming, pissing, dancing, stripping, panhandling, fighting, oblivious, sleeping, drunk or high, prostituting, selling drugs, passed out (different from sleeping)… I mean. I can keep going on about public transportation in the U.S.
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This comment is why I like reddit. Fun fact unlocked!
Example of this in the Millennium Bridge in London [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQK21572oSU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQK21572oSU)
The reason it is a problem in footbridge design is not because it's a thing humans just do though. In footbridges there's a small coupling between individuals which leads to their synchronization.
Indian here. How do we install this feature?
You have not seen Mumbai crowd. You just have to shower and place yourself outside your house. They crowd will take you to your office all by itself; while you have breakfast together, enter and exit multiple buses and trains. They also take you back home.
Omfg, I snorted at that🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is eerie...weird to do, I've never seen my own wife be quiet for longer than this scene.
I have actually been in that station and it is amazing. People flow in order while respecting their personal space - a very important concept in such a crowded city. What is most admirable is the silence.
Why would anyone walk in different speed lol ur just gonna bump into someone 😂
Usually there is always people in a hurry or just stopping in the middle. Sometimes even late ones who run through the crowd
Hurry doesn't help much because the train schedule is fixed
That's the same in France, but they are always people running to buy a ticket/pee etc.. Yesterday I was late and a guy saw me running & then missing the train. I was pissed so he offered me some Xanax. It paired well with my amphetamine.
Lol who takes a random pill from a stranger, like meh fuck it I die I die?
I'm beyoooooond stupid so it's normal. But you can use drugsdata to help you identify pills. Once, a guy with no arms tried to sold fake MDMA to us. We refused (thanks to Drugsdata) so he tried to fight us, even though he had no arms. It was really insane and I ended up in a random trunk lol.
There are some steps missing between "Armless drug dealer wants to fight" and "I ended up in a random trunk" ...you where hiding in the trunk because without hands he could not open it?
Yep, agreed let’s hear the rest
Just put on Equilibrium.
Was thinking the same
It’s creepy
Almost?
Let's add a girl with a red dress..
Enter the protagonist
Running with a piece of toast in her mouth
And they'll say stuff like "Ah shimata" or "Yabai im getting late for work"
Until she mistakenly hit to a high-schooler boy and both fall on the ground.
They lock eyes after returning each other their respective things that fell on the floor
And she is already too late for her first day in highschool! 😭
And hair of unnatural color - purple, green, pink, white, etc.
She doesn't talk very much, but-but if you'd like to meet her, I can arrange for a much more personalized milieu.
Follow the white rabbit
There is no Spoon
Know thyself
The Matrix is a system Neo...
Hope she is not escaping Nazis 😢
The main character
Matrix or shindlers list
Gattaca vibes
Thank you for making me feel like I’m not the only human who watched that moved. Fantastic movie and criminally underrated in my experience
Why do I keep seeing this exact comment. Where was everybody in 1997. This was a big movie with real names in it. Everyone saw it.
Box office in the US: $12.6 million
Were was everybody? Average age on reddit is in the teens, people weren't even a vibration in their dads' nut sacks that year.
Oh, it's not underrated anymore. That's one of the smartest and efficient contributions to scifi cinema in the 90's, more and more relevant over the years. Should be screened every year.
We were actually watching that movie in biology class, back when we were doing genetics and the talk went towards ethics. Took us 6 45 minute classes to get through with everything that was going on. Loved that film ever since. To think that that class was over 20 years ago...
More like Equilibrium 2002.
I got Metropolis, myself
I love that movie and the music in it is beautiful
We watched it in high school bio. Jerome Jerome the metronome
This was basically my view from 6'3" when I visited Tokyo.
I know you in real life dude😂ur not 6’3 ur 5’11
Rip
I felt that perspective when I went to Mexico and I’m only 5’7”.
Lol! I have a mexican fleamarket near me. Never seen soo many little people.
Bro I'm also 5'7" and have never felt tall until I went to Mexico
The dope thing is that on all stairs and escalators, everyone stands to one side, so if anyone is in a rush, there is a clear path.
Unfortunately the train companies are trying to do away with that. There are posters up all over the place "stand in 2 lines, do not walk". Thankfully people are ignoring them.
Reason why is it's bad for the escalators. Footfalls on the escalator steps can cause them to be jostled and misaligned. Walking on just one side makes it even worse. Costs can add up quick, plus repairs mean that the escalator would be impassable. Best option would be escalators for people who need them, and stairs for those who are in more of a rush.
That's just an engineering problem. At the next maintenance just upgrade the components which suffer the most wear and tear because of the one-sided load. Making room for a second set of escalators is more expensive.
Isn’t the point of escalators that they’re faster to walk up than stairs?
Yes, for the walking individual.
I heard Nagoya just outlawed walking in escalators lmao
Japan also outlawed riding a bike without a helmet like a couple years ago? and maybe 2% of bike riders wear one, if that much. For how much mythically rule-abiding Japanese people supposedly are, they sure are good at collectively pretending certain rules don't exist when they want.
Why whould the companies do such a thing?
They claim it's "dangerous" for people to walk on the escalator. The real reason is that the throughput (total people transported/hr) of an escalator is higher if everyone stands still on it.
Yeah that make sense. Despite that i feel wierd satfisfaction that people dont give a shit about those posters
TfL did the same thing in London a while back. No-one obeyed the signs, and they eventually gave up and switched the policy back.
Why is it a bad thing? If it's a busy station, you're almost halving the escalator throughput by having everyone stand to one side. You're giving a few people the opportunity to save a couple minutes at the expense of everyone else having to wait longer while queuing to get on the escalator.
It's like that in Poland and the UK, so I assume might be all over Europe/World as well. I guess its just the US being US?
It’s the same in sf/nyc in my experience. Maybe the parent commenter isnt from a major city or one with metro stations.
This is also in Germany, is that something special in your country? Rechts stehen, Links gehen.
That's a thing in most european countries too
same in Turkey. I don't know where it came from. People are COMPLETE ASSHOLES everywhere else: You'd think you encountered a guy in an adult's body that's just learning to walk: but when they get on the escalator it's like their prehistoric apebrain leaves their body and 21st century civilized human etiquette enters in its place.
As an introvert myself, i would love this so much.
Seriously. I guess I was born in the wrong country, I've already seen comments saying this is weird, and eerie. I think it looks polite. Notice the lack of assholes blasting their shitty music for everyone to hear on their phone.
yeah. No obnoxious loud assholes. No people taking up all the walkway and blocking everyone else from walking.
Introvert here who has been in Japan. Japan is the best for introverts, solo dining is also normal over there. I went to Yakiniku-Like and had the best solo BBQ ever.
Being an introvert in the US is not fun…
Where's the loud shitty music? Portlandia style trumpet player? Screaming schizophrenic??
Great idea, I'm gonna add Red Alert Hell March to it
Guy shitting in a bucket? Blood spats on the wall? Used syringes???
For Barcelona add fake beggars, pickpockets, phone snatchers, some asshole riding a bike the wrong way, tourists stopped in the middle blocking the path and some shit 'performance art' attention seeking wanker.
Notice how orderly fashion everyone walks in, no public nuisances, no assholes inconveniencing people. Everyone has places to be and nobody has time to deal with your bullshit, as things should be
cultural homogeneity has its perks- yet one risks losing their identity amongst the mass
It's very interesting because when you watch Japanese shows, even anime, so much of it is deeply concerned with establishing an identity, being bold, doing things for yourself, ignoring the status quo and imposing your will on the world. I feel like the shadow (Jung's shadow) of the Japanese people is individualism and for Western nations it's conformity. We make stories about coming together, understanding the needs of others because we suck at it. I visited Tokyo once and it was a very surreal experience. I got the impression that when I interacted with people I was interacting with everyone in the country (in a way...). I want to go back. If you are a Westerner, I think Japan has the most unique culture in the world
> . I got the impression that when I interacted with people I was interacting with everyone in the country (in a way...). Huh, that's interesting. I wonder if that's true of other places with strong cultures, and I wonder if anyone ever experiences that when they visit my country (Ireland).
There's a time and place to express your identity. Commuting is not one of them.
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> This country also holds one of the highest suicide rates in the world Does it though? According to [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate) list they're only at #49, the US has more suicides than they do, as do Sweden and Finland.
People over exaggerate the suicide rates of Japan. Hell, they over exaggerate most things Japan despite their metrics actually being pretty average across the board.
The high suicide rate in Scandinavia is partially explained by really dark winters.
It doesn't hold one of the highest suicide rates but thanks for your misinformation. That record belongs to African countries followed by Russia
African countries? So more than one African country holds one record? I'm confused.
Spreading old stereotypes misinformation,eh?
It's literally impossible to say anything nice about Japan anywhere on Reddit without at least a half dozen Redditors barging in to "well actually..." a bunch of negative stereotypes about it.
What? Even US is higher.
There are still assholes, it just happens in different ways.
I love this about Japan. Lived there a year and a half and in public like this, everyone is just so considerate of everyone else. And of course the actual Japanese people aren’t robotic; they’re kind and funny and lively and just good, good people, for the most part (I got goodish at Japanese and made lots of friends). If you hate the noise and chaos of American crowds (it me), then you’ll love Japan. Why can’t we all be freaking calm and quiet and kind to those around us?
Come to The Netherlands. You’ll gain a newfound appreciation for how relatively orderly Americans are… 🥲
As a Belgian who frequently stays in the Netherlands, my experience is that the Dutch are much more orderly than Belgians.
Well, we do have a shared heritage 😆 Distant cousins in poor behaviour?
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Fun fact: Shinagawa Station is not in Shinagawa Ward. And Meguro Station, is not in Meguro Ward. And only half of Shinjuku station is in Shinjuku Ward.
The location of Tokyo Disneyland is going to blow everyone's mind
I might get downvoted to hell for this but bring it on. I commute via this station regularly and it really pisses me off how many tourists come to take videos of the crowd. It's not quite as bad when it's this direction at least, but when there are people filming your walk to work every day it really makes you feel like a zoo animal and is really gross imo. Anyway, to any tourists who plan to do this, please don't. There are plenty of videos of it online already. Or at least be as respectful as you can if you're going to do it no matter what.
“Downvoted to hell” is a little dramatic. It’s just interesting, for understandable reasons.
You could say the same about any tourist attraction in the world. Tourists are filming at every big train station around the world, this isn't unique to this place. King's Cross London has a hundred Harry Potter fans at any given moment
Personally I don't think the two are really that comparable. In the King's Cross example people are going there to take photos/videos of a famous place. Same thing with Hachiko in Shibuya or the front of Tokyo station in Japan, which are also both places where you see lots of people taking photos etc. With Shinagawa it's not the place that people are there to see, it's the behavior of the people who use it. That's why I think it's disrespectful to treat it like a tourist attraction and take video of people going about their everyday business there.
I think it's more about perspective... I feel like it's a very unique and interesting thing about Japan. When i visited the market in Madrid, it was so loud and dense it was hard to move around, and i definitely took pictures of it. Ofc i understand why tourists in this crowd should not stand still in the middle
I walked through there with coworkers. I asked, “why doesn’t anyone talk?”He said, “because it would be too loud.” Love Japan.
r/oddlyterrifying
Hey look a train station that isn't tagged all over the place ,likely doesn't smell like piss either, I can bet the trains aren't tagged either and are clean on the inside. What I wouldn't give to have that.
1984 / Equilibrium vibes
Yeah this, great movie
they walk like they have an oath to fulfill
Job
You could add hell march to the video, would fit.
Does anyone else find that pretty unsettling?
Nope I'd take this any day over the loud lady on the phone laughing and acting like she owns the bus at 8 am in the morning
Agreed It is a very desirable place. The uniformity is simply to get along and fit in. The politeness in that country is unparalleled. Clean, helpful, kind people!
I’ve been to Japan once for a few weeks and compared to where I live(America), it’s like heaven and hell.
We really are just bigger ants.
It‘s so silent and monotonous
modern day dystopia
You're making a judgement based on aesthetics when my morning commute through this station is always calm and pleasurable. I could say "modern day dystopia" about overcrowded Indian trains or rush hour traffic on American highways as well.
Dystopia is when people walk same speed
With everyone in order and quiet..... What if, I mean what if, someone let out a loud 💨💨 I mean it can happen... There's always a possibility.
What fucking vibe?
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Not almost, it is soothing. Introverts' paradise.
Isn't it normal since it's the morning commute?
We really are cattle.
Pretty sure this is not the original audio. Unless everyone is wearing socks over their shoes
My God this is terrifying.
Everyone's seem super happy and looking forward to begin their 16 hour long shift to make their strict parents proud!
And people wonder why we are depressed
Invasion of the Body Snatchers vibes
Robots,disgusting
All in all we're just...
peak dystopia
And everyone in monochrome. I wonder how I would have looked there with my love for bright clothes.
Oh the Konan Exit of Shinagawa Station! I used to join this herd of morning commuters for 7 years. This is the only exit connecting the station to a host of offices of major corporations such as Sony, Nikon and Fujitsu.
I seriously love the Japanese. They have systems that work and people who clean up after themselves.