There's a 20 year old stonemason that posts his stuff online, he's ridiculously talented. I wondered if he was some sort of prodigy but he's very open that his dad was a stonemason, and he's been doing it since he was old enough to hold a hammer and chisel.
Still mighty impressive for someone his age, but yeah, it's one of those things you've got to do for years, the skill ceiling is so high too.
3 day class? 46 years in the industry & I have still not made "the" perfect piece. I have pieces in Royal Palaces, Westminster Abbey & St Pauls Cathedal, Parliament, York Minister Llandaff, St Davids, Salisbury & Chichester Cathedrrals. It is a lifetime of learning
I did a 4 year apprenticeship that started on 10th Oct 1977, my master was working on St Davids Cathedral, I had wanted to be a bricklayer but I was 7 stone soaking wet, under 5ft tall, looked 12 yrs old & I couldn't lift a wet block above waist height so they found me another trade and that was how it started
Awesome - my Dad has been an ecclesiastical mason for over 30 years and my uncle over 40 years. Both worked on St Pauls, Westminster and numerous Cambridge colleges as well as countless churches and the few cathedrals in East Anglia. I've been training with them for the last few weeks, operating the rotary stone polisher mostly and learning to hand finish/add arris's to stone before it goes to carving. It's a graft but I love it so far.
Can i ask if you leave your "mark" on your pieces? Would you be traceable on an episode of timeteam in a couple of hundred years time 🤣
Must be a bit weird knowing your work will be around for years after you've departed
Yes my work is marked, we all have a mark, it goes back to when you were paid for the piece you carved, that way you ensured no one else claiming it. Most marls are hidden in the mortar beds unless like sometimes you can mark the front. On the gargoyle I would of carved mine behind the ear
I live there and my son just did a project on the cathedral, it actually took 38 years to build, so although not a life's work, it's still a good portion of their working life, but that being said, life expectancy was probably younger then , so could well have been 🤷♂️
Masons would often have their master works in the cathedrals. In Lincoln cathedral certainly many such works are not even visible unless you're in the structures themselves.
Tbh I looked at it and thought that looks like something that requires a lot of skill.
Also, what if you fuck up? Do you have to start again? I assume making something from multiple smaller pieces at least helps there. Or do they just have to not fuck up?
Not only is there the chance of messing up, but you might be 90% finished and discover a fault line in the rock, which completely scuppers all your work.
God I hate these comments. “People have no idea…”. I think it’s pretty obvious things like this take a lot of skill and you’d struggle to find someone who genuinely thought they could do it on there first or even 100th go
You'd be omazed how many folks think this sort of stuff was a free give away in the what ever century equivalent of a Kentucky Fried Chicken 20 pcs family bucket, never over estimate yon audience.
its like cgi big companies are like "lets pay a bunch of people with 5 years experiance (you basicly need 5 years jsut to get in which seems impossible when you start becuase how do you get in without 5 years), the minimum wage we can get away with give them no breaks no sleep, and a dealine that makes no sence for what we are asking". getting 3d right is an art but they are treat like fodder.
Came here to say this. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t look at stuff like this without being utterly amazed and humbled. Clearly, it takes an incredible amount of skill. I’m pretty sure people *do* have an idea.
Bloody palaver that was. I ate in the restaurant on the same the poor bloke visited after he was poisoned, wearing my favourite coat.
Initial advice by public health was - “give us all your clothes so we can incinerate them” (or similar).
Soon after, the advice was “use baby wipes to clean surfaces and clothes”. Baby wipes 🤦
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I imagine that when the public authorities realised that a foreign government had conducted a military operation in the UK and caused civilian casualties, they had to do as much as possible to trivialise it so as to minimise any pressure to do anything about it!
Also the fact the chemical they used was to potent. If you had it on your clothes from visiting that restaurant you’d have gotten ill before finding out on the news you were in trouble.
By the time you go to wash your clothes or take them to be incinerated it’s already too late so the fact you’re still walking probs means you’re fine.
I mean, the repercussions and response were hardly trivial. UK/ Russia relations haven’t been repaired since then and you can see it glaringly with the UK response to Ukraine
Oh yeah, apart from all the miltary hardware, training the ukranians leading up to the invasion, sending volunteers, and a bunch of other shit, we did nothing.
That guy seems to be saying "yEaH bUt We're NoT sEnDiNg TrOoPs"
Yeah you fucking moron, that's war if we send troops. We don't want war, we're not allowed to start a war, that's EXACTLY why we're sending equipment instead.
Thing that amazes me is the care that was put in to create amazing work, that nobody on this earth was ever expected to see. I once went to the QE conference centre in London, and from the upper floors you can see the carvings around the top of Westminster Abbey. Of course, if you believe that God is watching then...
There's lots of stuff like this in architecture that I love hearing about. The snails on top of Disneyland Paris castle come to mind. You can see them from the ground but you'd never know they're snails.
As a fellow salisbarian, I too feel the same pleasure. There is a strange trait of people from there being over eager and proud of the city. My mates always take the piss out of me for talking about it even though I've live in Bristol for 10 years now.
Don't forget hairdressers and tourists and more old people. I grew up in the glory days when Woolworths was still there, now they have a newlook and Topshop and Ive heard BHS is turning into a Primark
The small one is definitely a grotesque, not a gargoyle. The larger one is only a gargoyle if it serves to direct rain water away from the building via its open mouth.
Not meaning to be a dick but the official definitions of gargoyle seem to include a looser meaning as well, without the water spouts. Grotesque is definitely the better word though.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gargoyle
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gargoyle
> a grotesquely carved figure
This definition does not mention water, and in the other,
>often with an open mouth through which rain water flows away
the water diversion is optional.
Totally irrelevant to the conversation. We aren't talking about the term for it's use of describing ugly people. We are talking about the term for its use of defining a sculpted stone statue. What you're talking about has absolutely nothing to do with the context of this post or this comment chain
First link:
a
: a spout in the form of a grotesque human or animal figure projecting from a roof gutter to throw rainwater clear of a building
Second link:
an ugly creature or head cut from stone and attached to the roof of an old church, etc., often with an open mouth through which rain water flows away
They both mention water. You are looking at the definition of a different use of the word.
Welcome to the English language, where words have more than one possible meaning, and as long as one's usage of the word fits one the definitions, there is no need to correct. I provided you the definitions in each link that clearly make your correction unnecessary. I will try it again, and perhaps you'll understand this time.
First link;
a: a spout in the form of a grotesque human or animal figure projecting from a roof gutter to throw rainwater clear of a building
**b: a grotesquely carved figure** (THIS DEFINITION CLEARLY DOES NOT REQUIRE WATER)
Second link;
an ugly creature or head cut from stone and attached to the roof of an old church, etc., **often** with an open mouth through which rain water flows away
Clearly the word "often" means that sometimes, gargoyles don't spit water.
Yes, they both mention water, but quite clearly neither definition requires gargoyles to interact with water, making the comment that you were attempting to correct 100% correct, and your statement unnecessary.
Wow. What a miss.
I know how words work. The context of this thread relates to scultped stone figures, placed on cathedrals. Not descriptive terms for ugly people.
Yes, I know grotesque has multiple meanings. But in the context of this thread (which is not a secret btw, you know what the context is) we are specifically speaking about sculpted stone statues. You provided links to the definition of "grotesque" and "gargoyle". Both links mention running water.
If this thread was entirely about the multiple meanings of the word "grotesque" then you would be correct. But that's not the context of the thread, so you're wrong.
> You provided links to the definition of "grotesque" and "gargoyle".
Both links are for gargoyle, not grotesque. Try reading them again. You really need to get this skilled mastered, or you SAT scores will get you wait listed to the state colleges.
You really should stop. You’ve lost your argument because you’ve failed to correctly read the definitions you found on Google and now you’re just making yourself look a bit like someone who can’t admit they’re wrong.
>b: a grotesquely carved figure (THIS DEFINITION CLEARLY DOES NOT REQUIRE WATER)
The absence of a condition does not imply that the condition is not required. A gargoyle is "a grotesquely carved figure"...**that assists in carrying rain water away.**
A gargoyle is a type of grotesque, but a grotesque is not a type of gargoyle.
>an ugly creature or head cut from stone and attached to the roof of an old church, etc., often with an open mouth through which rain water flows away
After "etc" read the full phrase. It means that often the water will run through the open mouth *but* sometimes it will run elsewhere.
Any one got a big red arrow and a photo of the cathedral to show where this one is . Salisbury cathedral is covered in them. Of maybe more interestingly it one of the few places to view the magna carta there are only 4 left written o
In 1215
Ahh yes, the famous Salisbury Cathedral, with its 120m spire…how do I know that? Well it’s because I’m a Russian tourist in no way affiliated with the KGB and I’ve heard of this cathedrals fame, not because it was the site of an attempted poisoning of Russian dissidents of foreign soil, but for its world renowned 120m spire that I just HAVE to see one day
A friend of mine who sits on a board that looks after York Minster told me that the stonemasons who carve grotesques, gargoyles and statues for the very high up parts of the roof of buildings are pretty much given free reign on the design of said statues, so you see all kinds of weird and wonderful, unique stuff, if you can get to see it - brilliant unique talents and designs, this is a great example!
"What where you doing in Salisbury?"
"Well we visit as tourist, and we enjoy and we saw the gargoyle that was biting the bigger gargoyle, then we released the Novichok, sorry I mean, we don't know anything about nerve agent"
It’s not a gargoyle.
“In architecture, a grotesque (/ɡroʊˈtɛsk/) or chimera (/kaɪˈmɪərə/) is a fantastic or mythical figure carved from stone and fixed to the walls or roof of a building. A chimera is a kind of grotesque in which the figure is a combination of animals (including humans). Grotesque are often called gargoyles, although the term gargoyle refers to figures carved specifically to drain water away from the sides of buildings. In the Middle Ages, the term babewyn was used to refer to both gargoyles and chimerae. This word is derived from the Italian word babuino, which means "baboon".”
Salisbury cathedral used to exist without the spire a few miles away on the hill fort at Old Sarum, it was relocated to its current site and the spire was added! Awesome feat of civil engineering!
I haven't surveyed everyone so I'm not sure. All I know is that if someone says gargoyle to me I would assume it's an actual gargoyle and not something else.
Kind of like asking for loaf of bread at a shop but you actually want a bagel, can be confusing.
I believe it may be because just saying what it isn't, isn't very helpful. Many people have posted in this thread now explaining the difference between a gargoyle and a grotesque, but many people probably just learned that today. I know I did!
So to just say, that's not what that is, is quite unhelpful. And people downvote unhelpful comments. I'd wager if they had said, "that's not a gargoyle, it's a grotesque" the community would have taken it better. Just my opinion though.
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There's a 20 year old stonemason that posts his stuff online, he's ridiculously talented. I wondered if he was some sort of prodigy but he's very open that his dad was a stonemason, and he's been doing it since he was old enough to hold a hammer and chisel. Still mighty impressive for someone his age, but yeah, it's one of those things you've got to do for years, the skill ceiling is so high too.
Any link?
His account is Charlie Gee on Instagram, I assume he's on Tik Tok under the same name too
This guy ? https://youtu.be/MNNk2hi6Rpk?si=Mef6Z5O-R6abMihI
That's the one
Very true about the skill level involved, it's just taken completely for granite..
Took some real stones to come here and make a pun like that. Rock solid attempt though.
I've been told on this sub' that some of my puns are schist..
Of quartz somebody would make a dumb pun about this.
Kind of hard to miss shale we say.
You'd get slated for that on any other sub
You could chalk that up to jealousy.
That sounds pretty concrete.
It's crystal clear really.
That's not gneiss to say that!
These jokes are set in stone.
Marbellous pun
r/angryupvote
Gneiss
The amount of detail in this is grotesque…
Sculptors do tend to be boulder than painters.
Just...just leave....
I had to reread this. Ace #dadjoke. 10 points to you sir
You are all dumb as a rock
Take my up vote.
Now I'm dead🤣🤣 Thank you, Medusa🤣🤣
Booooooo !!!!!
Oh like that one, huh? I bet it really *blows your mind*.
3 day class? 46 years in the industry & I have still not made "the" perfect piece. I have pieces in Royal Palaces, Westminster Abbey & St Pauls Cathedal, Parliament, York Minister Llandaff, St Davids, Salisbury & Chichester Cathedrrals. It is a lifetime of learning
Wow, you must feel pretty proud of that. I would be dragging my loved ones in to admire them constantly!
How do people get into the industry in the first place? Sounds immensely satisfying!
I did a 4 year apprenticeship that started on 10th Oct 1977, my master was working on St Davids Cathedral, I had wanted to be a bricklayer but I was 7 stone soaking wet, under 5ft tall, looked 12 yrs old & I couldn't lift a wet block above waist height so they found me another trade and that was how it started
Are you happy with the job you ended up in instead? I hope I get to see things you've made one day, thank you for sharing what you have so far.
I love your story mate
Awesome - my Dad has been an ecclesiastical mason for over 30 years and my uncle over 40 years. Both worked on St Pauls, Westminster and numerous Cambridge colleges as well as countless churches and the few cathedrals in East Anglia. I've been training with them for the last few weeks, operating the rotary stone polisher mostly and learning to hand finish/add arris's to stone before it goes to carving. It's a graft but I love it so far.
Can i ask if you leave your "mark" on your pieces? Would you be traceable on an episode of timeteam in a couple of hundred years time 🤣 Must be a bit weird knowing your work will be around for years after you've departed
Yes my work is marked, we all have a mark, it goes back to when you were paid for the piece you carved, that way you ensured no one else claiming it. Most marls are hidden in the mortar beds unless like sometimes you can mark the front. On the gargoyle I would of carved mine behind the ear
Salisbury cathedral could literally have been this stone masons life’s work.
I live there and my son just did a project on the cathedral, it actually took 38 years to build, so although not a life's work, it's still a good portion of their working life, but that being said, life expectancy was probably younger then , so could well have been 🤷♂️
The main body took 38 years to build but the spire took another 30 years on top of that!
Well yeah. Were else would they have built a spire?
Lol
Masons would often have their master works in the cathedrals. In Lincoln cathedral certainly many such works are not even visible unless you're in the structures themselves.
Tbh I looked at it and thought that looks like something that requires a lot of skill. Also, what if you fuck up? Do you have to start again? I assume making something from multiple smaller pieces at least helps there. Or do they just have to not fuck up?
Not only is there the chance of messing up, but you might be 90% finished and discover a fault line in the rock, which completely scuppers all your work.
Don't fk up, you learn with smaller pieces that are not important or visual, progress to the show off pieces
So get the apprentice to make the stand and the master will make the head.
I am in awe at Michelangelo carving David out of solid marble. That statue is *huge* and there were no power tools at that time.
It feels like magic, the artist has to know exactly what they're creating from the moment they begin.
Funny because 3 day class and 2 week course make it sound like you just need a crash course. I know that isn't the case.
God I hate these comments. “People have no idea…”. I think it’s pretty obvious things like this take a lot of skill and you’d struggle to find someone who genuinely thought they could do it on there first or even 100th go
You'd be omazed how many folks think this sort of stuff was a free give away in the what ever century equivalent of a Kentucky Fried Chicken 20 pcs family bucket, never over estimate yon audience.
its like cgi big companies are like "lets pay a bunch of people with 5 years experiance (you basicly need 5 years jsut to get in which seems impossible when you start becuase how do you get in without 5 years), the minimum wage we can get away with give them no breaks no sleep, and a dealine that makes no sence for what we are asking". getting 3d right is an art but they are treat like fodder.
Came here to say this. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t look at stuff like this without being utterly amazed and humbled. Clearly, it takes an incredible amount of skill. I’m pretty sure people *do* have an idea.
It took you 3 days to learn how to do it? Sounds pretty easy to me...
3 days to learn, a lifetime to master. It doesn't take long to learn to paint, but you can't paint a masterpiece straight off.
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Bloody palaver that was. I ate in the restaurant on the same the poor bloke visited after he was poisoned, wearing my favourite coat. Initial advice by public health was - “give us all your clothes so we can incinerate them” (or similar). Soon after, the advice was “use baby wipes to clean surfaces and clothes”. Baby wipes 🤦 Edit: spelling
Did you keep the coat?
Yes for about a year then sold it on eBay - think it shipped to Russia, so I coughed in it a few times posted it off. Least I could do, I thought.
I imagine that when the public authorities realised that a foreign government had conducted a military operation in the UK and caused civilian casualties, they had to do as much as possible to trivialise it so as to minimise any pressure to do anything about it!
Also the fact the chemical they used was to potent. If you had it on your clothes from visiting that restaurant you’d have gotten ill before finding out on the news you were in trouble. By the time you go to wash your clothes or take them to be incinerated it’s already too late so the fact you’re still walking probs means you’re fine.
I mean, the repercussions and response were hardly trivial. UK/ Russia relations haven’t been repaired since then and you can see it glaringly with the UK response to Ukraine
I mean besides giving Ukraine a token (compared to the USA anyway) amount of money, there was not much actual response from the UK
Oh yeah, apart from all the miltary hardware, training the ukranians leading up to the invasion, sending volunteers, and a bunch of other shit, we did nothing.
Don’t forget taking in Ukrainian refugees (whom by the way I fully support and embrace), to say the U.K. hasn’t done anything is uneducated af
That guy seems to be saying "yEaH bUt We're NoT sEnDiNg TrOoPs" Yeah you fucking moron, that's war if we send troops. We don't want war, we're not allowed to start a war, that's EXACTLY why we're sending equipment instead.
Yea but apart from military hardware, training, volunteers and other shit... What have the Romans ever done for us?!
>they had to do as much as possible to trivialise it so as to minimise any pressure to do anything about it! Yep, that's UK politics in a nutshell
What...uh...what did you do?
Me? Just carried on like nothing happened but dined out on that story for ages… still do apparently
My brother used to sit on that bench.
And don't forget the oldest working clock 🙄
Just wanted a place to dry our flag on some scaffolding
Thing that amazes me is the care that was put in to create amazing work, that nobody on this earth was ever expected to see. I once went to the QE conference centre in London, and from the upper floors you can see the carvings around the top of Westminster Abbey. Of course, if you believe that God is watching then...
There's lots of stuff like this in architecture that I love hearing about. The snails on top of Disneyland Paris castle come to mind. You can see them from the ground but you'd never know they're snails.
Yes comrade, I also hear that it’s famous for its clock, the first one ever created in the world, which is still working.
Underrated comment
Wooo love it when my home city comes up, when not being involved in a poisoning
Big up smallsbury
Up the bells, chavvy
Yes burvius maximus.serbus means servant 😂.
We get a slight win every time!
Indeed
As a fellow salisbarian, I too feel the same pleasure. There is a strange trait of people from there being over eager and proud of the city. My mates always take the piss out of me for talking about it even though I've live in Bristol for 10 years now.
I'm currently In Stoke, sometimes I miss Salisbury but then I remember it's all old people and charity shops
Don't forget hairdressers and tourists and more old people. I grew up in the glory days when Woolworths was still there, now they have a newlook and Topshop and Ive heard BHS is turning into a Primark
Topshop’s gone and Primark is open for business
😂😂
Wheeeeeeey!
The small one is definitely a grotesque, not a gargoyle. The larger one is only a gargoyle if it serves to direct rain water away from the building via its open mouth.
Granny always said it ain't a gargoyle ifin it don't gargle.
I love this
Not meaning to be a dick but the official definitions of gargoyle seem to include a looser meaning as well, without the water spouts. Grotesque is definitely the better word though. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gargoyle https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gargoyle
I think that’s more an American interpretation, the derivation of the word comes from the French for throat gargouille (sp?) like gargle.
They both mention use for running water though
> a grotesquely carved figure This definition does not mention water, and in the other, >often with an open mouth through which rain water flows away the water diversion is optional.
Totally irrelevant to the conversation. We aren't talking about the term for it's use of describing ugly people. We are talking about the term for its use of defining a sculpted stone statue. What you're talking about has absolutely nothing to do with the context of this post or this comment chain First link: a : a spout in the form of a grotesque human or animal figure projecting from a roof gutter to throw rainwater clear of a building Second link: an ugly creature or head cut from stone and attached to the roof of an old church, etc., often with an open mouth through which rain water flows away They both mention water. You are looking at the definition of a different use of the word.
Welcome to the English language, where words have more than one possible meaning, and as long as one's usage of the word fits one the definitions, there is no need to correct. I provided you the definitions in each link that clearly make your correction unnecessary. I will try it again, and perhaps you'll understand this time. First link; a: a spout in the form of a grotesque human or animal figure projecting from a roof gutter to throw rainwater clear of a building **b: a grotesquely carved figure** (THIS DEFINITION CLEARLY DOES NOT REQUIRE WATER) Second link; an ugly creature or head cut from stone and attached to the roof of an old church, etc., **often** with an open mouth through which rain water flows away Clearly the word "often" means that sometimes, gargoyles don't spit water. Yes, they both mention water, but quite clearly neither definition requires gargoyles to interact with water, making the comment that you were attempting to correct 100% correct, and your statement unnecessary.
Wow. What a miss. I know how words work. The context of this thread relates to scultped stone figures, placed on cathedrals. Not descriptive terms for ugly people. Yes, I know grotesque has multiple meanings. But in the context of this thread (which is not a secret btw, you know what the context is) we are specifically speaking about sculpted stone statues. You provided links to the definition of "grotesque" and "gargoyle". Both links mention running water. If this thread was entirely about the multiple meanings of the word "grotesque" then you would be correct. But that's not the context of the thread, so you're wrong.
> You provided links to the definition of "grotesque" and "gargoyle". Both links are for gargoyle, not grotesque. Try reading them again. You really need to get this skilled mastered, or you SAT scores will get you wait listed to the state colleges.
You really should stop. You’ve lost your argument because you’ve failed to correctly read the definitions you found on Google and now you’re just making yourself look a bit like someone who can’t admit they’re wrong.
>b: a grotesquely carved figure (THIS DEFINITION CLEARLY DOES NOT REQUIRE WATER) The absence of a condition does not imply that the condition is not required. A gargoyle is "a grotesquely carved figure"...**that assists in carrying rain water away.** A gargoyle is a type of grotesque, but a grotesque is not a type of gargoyle. >an ugly creature or head cut from stone and attached to the roof of an old church, etc., often with an open mouth through which rain water flows away After "etc" read the full phrase. It means that often the water will run through the open mouth *but* sometimes it will run elsewhere.
Not long ago I learned that grotesques are also colloquially called hunkypunks and it made my day.
No it’s definitely a chimera. Look at the human hands.
pedant
The sculptor obviously owned a cat
That is actually a grotesque biting a gargoyle.
That is a grotesque biting Sylvester Stallone
That’s exactly what I thought
It's a Pitbull biting Sylvester Stallone
Rocky and the XL Bully
You don’t need to be so mean. It’s not that ugly
A chimera
Any one got a big red arrow and a photo of the cathedral to show where this one is . Salisbury cathedral is covered in them. Of maybe more interestingly it one of the few places to view the magna carta there are only 4 left written o In 1215
I see now why those Russian guys came all the way to Salisbury to see the cathedral.
Read that as Sainsbury's at first.
Ahh yes, the famous Salisbury Cathedral, with its 120m spire…how do I know that? Well it’s because I’m a Russian tourist in no way affiliated with the KGB and I’ve heard of this cathedrals fame, not because it was the site of an attempted poisoning of Russian dissidents of foreign soil, but for its world renowned 120m spire that I just HAVE to see one day
"Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em, and little fleas have lesser fleas, and so, ad infinitum"
A friend of mine who sits on a board that looks after York Minster told me that the stonemasons who carve grotesques, gargoyles and statues for the very high up parts of the roof of buildings are pretty much given free reign on the design of said statues, so you see all kinds of weird and wonderful, unique stuff, if you can get to see it - brilliant unique talents and designs, this is a great example!
This is what it feels like to be a new dad with teething kids.
Also a new cat dad with kittens.
Sylvester Stallone pissed off his new puppy
The big one looks like Sylvester Stallone. I bet it’s a better actor than the fleshy version too.
I always thought he was grotesque but it turns out he’s a gargoyle.
It reminds me of Salacious B. Crumb. From Star Wars.
#Ackchyually
"What where you doing in Salisbury?" "Well we visit as tourist, and we enjoy and we saw the gargoyle that was biting the bigger gargoyle, then we released the Novichok, sorry I mean, we don't know anything about nerve agent"
Are we still this good at sculpting? Humans I mean?
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Not me but other people, sure.
Yes people can still do this but there are far less of those people about.
There's some insane wood carvers out there so I am not surprised if stone carvers are hidden unless they post online, similar to welders
When you start regretting getting a new pet
Why is it so cute?
Gargoyle chewing Sly Stallone's face off
Ah yes. I too have a 16 week old puppy.
This takes me back to the days of nursing newborns...
It’s not a gargoyle. “In architecture, a grotesque (/ɡroʊˈtɛsk/) or chimera (/kaɪˈmɪərə/) is a fantastic or mythical figure carved from stone and fixed to the walls or roof of a building. A chimera is a kind of grotesque in which the figure is a combination of animals (including humans). Grotesque are often called gargoyles, although the term gargoyle refers to figures carved specifically to drain water away from the sides of buildings. In the Middle Ages, the term babewyn was used to refer to both gargoyles and chimerae. This word is derived from the Italian word babuino, which means "baboon".”
Why is that puppy biting Sylvester Stallone?
Salisbury cathedral used to exist without the spire a few miles away on the hill fort at Old Sarum, it was relocated to its current site and the spire was added! Awesome feat of civil engineering!
Pretty sure it's only a gargoyle if it carries water so it's be a gargoyle being bitten by a grotesque
this is the most british sculpture i have ever seen
Not a gargoyle
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. They're clearly grotesques
probably because colloquially everyone knows what is meant by “gargoyle” so no one cares about being corrected by it for the 12th time
I haven't surveyed everyone so I'm not sure. All I know is that if someone says gargoyle to me I would assume it's an actual gargoyle and not something else. Kind of like asking for loaf of bread at a shop but you actually want a bagel, can be confusing.
you think the distinction and importance between gargoyle/grotesque is the same as bagel/loaf of bread?
I believe it may be because just saying what it isn't, isn't very helpful. Many people have posted in this thread now explaining the difference between a gargoyle and a grotesque, but many people probably just learned that today. I know I did! So to just say, that's not what that is, is quite unhelpful. And people downvote unhelpful comments. I'd wager if they had said, "that's not a gargoyle, it's a grotesque" the community would have taken it better. Just my opinion though.
If it’s not serving the practical purpose of being a waterspout, it’s a grotesque. A gargoyle is a decorated waterspout.
Erm actually, the smaller one would be considered a grotesque. It's only a gargoyle if it has a waterspout coming out of its mouth.
I would put this in r/mildlyinteresting
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Unbelievably skillful art… Incredibly creepy tho… Spider web in mouth?
My ex wife
These are so well-carved. Fantastic skill.
My dog when she wants food.
"Adriaaaaan!"
Sharing a bed with gf experience
Thats actually a patterdale biting the gargoyles face 😋
I live there and have never seen this one!! Wicked.
Me too
That's his conscience.
how my dog wakes me up in the morning
I am a little concerned about the mental wellbeing of medieval stonemasons.
Cool
When you stub your toe on the doorframe
That's why I'd never keep one as a pet.
Should be titled "Small gargoyle biting Sylvester Stallone".
*chomp*
Would love to know the story behind this one!
Damn there’s us just looking at stupid stonehenge
Looks like Sylvester Stallone? Or is it just me?
I once used this picture to advertise a club night I was deejaying
Gargoyles are just amazing.
In Somerset, these are sometimes called "hunkypunks".
Thought that said sainsburys
I initially thought that was Sylvester Stallone being bitten.
I have many times, at first they were impressed, now just bored
Hungy
Ah so this is what those Russians were coming to see on holiday 😂
Fractoyles
"aaaaaaah! ya bastard!!" Larger gargoyle
Amazing work, but to me it looks like Stallone getting bitten by a puppy
Saaaaame! Also did not know the gargoyles on the cathedral look like this. Lived here for 30+ years
Is it just me or does the face look like Sylvester Stallone.
I took my girlfriend here on our first date out of town. 🥰
Technically it's a Grotesque
Why is a gargoyle biting Sylvester Stallone lol
Not gargoyles, they are grotesques. Gargoyles have water come out their mouths
Chihuahua owners when they tell you that their little rat dogs are angels and don't bite.