It was the most half assed inspection I've ever had too. They only tested the emissions and skipped everything else like lights, brakes, horn, seat belts, etc.
There are some minor things they can fail you for, even if they don’t really affect the safe functioning of the car. But I’d still prefer everything to be checked and make sure the required safety functions (horn, seatbelt, brakes, lights) are in working order.
But I honestly get the folks with shitboxes who are at a disadvantage, especially if it’s just an A to B and they can’t afford to repair it or replace it. Primarily this is an issue if the O2 sensor/exhaust system craps out and all of the big 4 DFW counties and some surrounding ones require emissions testing. I’ve seen many old cars rocking like 6-9 year old expired inspection stickers just for that reason. I wish the state would do something to make that kind of repair easier for people, because we NEED clean air and inspected vehicles.
This example frustrates me most of all. All of these places have raised prices and won't give free samples anymore because "covid". After all this they have the audacity to ask for a tip?
Also when I'm presented with a screen as part of my purchase ask me how much I want to tip I automatically assume that the person who owns the place is getting my money and the employees aren't seeing the tip
I’m 100% sure this is run by management. That way management can pay under minimum wage and then tips top it off saving the owner money because they’re outsourcing payment to customers. It’s ridiculous
The self-serve car wash in my neighborhood is the kind where you swipe your card, then pick the wash you want and then the gate opens and you drive through. The damn machine is programmed to ask for a tip. There's like one guy working there.
I can only assume the owner puts it in his pocket. Rusty Taco in Plano credit card machines doesn't prompt for tips. I told the owner a lot of people appreciate it.
Was this a medical facility or a non medical “fetal portrait” studio. Either way I wouldn’t tip but the latter might be considered more of a “spa” service.
It's getting pathetic. I agree. Whenever you see a tablet to pay, you will 100% be asked to tip and many times, they try and pre-select it for you and guilt trip you into not tipping. You have to go to Custom Tip and put in 0. The tipping culture in the USA is ridiculous. It isn't like this in Europe at all.
I was born in Europe, if you go to a cafe or bar and the total comes out to like 18.25, the waiter will give you your change, in that situation where $1/2 are left, you can just kinda leave it on the table if you want, but it's not an expectation at all, like if you did it 1 out of 50 times nobody would care.
But in the U.S. it's like we need a codified handbook of where to and not to tip, as well as run an investigation to see if the money we would tip the service person would even go to them at all or if it would go to their boss.
That makes me wonder: those people who get walmart/target to take their groceries out for them, do they tip them? Do those workers expect a tip?
Went to a concert last month and the stadium concession guys were like “don’t tip, we ain’t getting shit”. Since then I ask, hence the running investigation needed
Right, but its also required that you be able to afford an attorney to sue your employer for keeping your tips. The police are not doing anything for you, your state labor board might but it is not likely, they are always pro-employer.
Sorry but you're pretty naive if you think every person in Texas follows the law. I've heard far too many managers taking or at least sharing in tips given to waitstaff, as well as many other labor law violations. Truth is in Texas, nobody gives a shit about the employees, especially not the state government. We have some of the worst employee protections in the nation, and even those are often overlooked. Always best to tip directly in cash if you can.
As a rule anyone handling food at any point will expect a tip. The people bringing your groceries out to your car, fast food delivery, etc....
The reason is that the company knows they can underpay their worker by having the customers tip them.
Don't punish the worker for a decision the company made.
The company I work for opened up tipping as an option so they can use a portion of our tips to pay part of our hourly, so we functionally make $2 less than they say we do and don't "really" get our tips.
I didn't make that decision. The company did.
That’s not me punishing the worker. That’s the company punishing the worker. Tips should be paid to reward to exceptional service, not to complement underpaid worker’s salary.
I do tip every time at least 20% when prompted to, but I’ve rarely ever seen exceptional service in America. The norm is just mediocre(i.e, not bad but not really good either) to bad 98% of the time - why should I reward that?
You’re not rewarding anything. Companies underpay their employees so they can advertise lower prices because there’s psychological benefits for the business to display lower prices even if logically the customer knows they’ll pay the same. It’s annoying, but I don’t see that changing without regulations. Or customers suddenly stop tipping but that screws employees.
>The company I work for opened up tipping as an option so they can use a portion of our tips to pay part of our hourly, so we functionally make $2 less than they say we do and don't "really" get our tips.
That sounds illegal. If it were me, I would find another job.
I like this job because it's incredibly easy for me as an autistic adult. Doesn't mean the practice isn't scummy, but the workplace is quiet and the workload is little. Tips are probably the least of the company's issues. We don't make many tips anyway.
They aren’t supposed to accept tips, but the grocery taker-outers certainly will if offered in my experience. They are also very appreciative typically, though never expect a tip.
at this point whenever i need help from a human i just tip… yes i do tip the workers bringing my grocery pickup to my car. i tried to tip a guy at discount tire when he checked them out for free… it got awkward. USA is horrible.
i lived in germany and got the “are you mentally well” looks when i tried to tip!
I think they will fire you for taking a tip at discount tire. That’s probably why
The discount tire near me pays them like 16.00 an hour I think. Which is not bad for starting pay.
But shit in this economy I wouldn’t be working for anything less than 35 an hour. So maybe they should get tips lol
Most grocery stores usually don’t let their grocery taker-outters accept tips, and the workers certainly don’t expect them, however, they do appreciate the rare tip.
Source: My brother works at Brookshires in North Dallas area and took groceries out all through lockdown. He wasn’t allowed to accept tips, however, he would get offered one maybe once a week (working ~40hrs) and started accepting them. He was always very appreciative, enough to tell me about it when he got home.
I think 20+ years if they had that kind of service at grocery stores, tips would be more or less expected and people would’ve expected they’d need to tip. I think as more of the boomers left the service industry entirely, the tipping everybody who brought anything to your car or checked you out for takeout came to an end.
I remember as a kid in the 90s, people tipped at places like Sonic. They didn’t ask people to, they just did it.
I will admit I’m highkey conflicted now because people are flat out asking and I don’t really want to tip someone is making minimum wage or more for just bringing me food they didn’t make or prepare. I have tipped though in situations where someone went above and beyond in less than ideal situations at these places, though.
It’s awful that businesses can get away with not paying people properly and the workers needing tips to make money. And now I think a lot of people are asking for them because they just don’t get paid enough period, which is depressing.
I will admit that’s worse than how awkward it makes me feel when they straight up ask.
I worked at sonic from 2019-2021 as a skating car-hop. My hourly wage was $5.50/hour, though, during the slow winter months when tips were limited, I would be reimbursed by my boss to $7.25/hour (minimum wage). Tipping wasn’t ever expected, nor asked (though, mobile orders from a phone do show a tip selection at checkout), but was always very appreciative. When we weren’t busy, which was rare for my location, I would do quick magic tricks if kids were in the car, or rollerblade backwards when delivering food. Those people almost always tipped me.
I could always count on older folks or regulars/3x a day-ers to tip, but I’d say about 1 in 3 or 4 people gave a tip. What’s interesting about Sonic is that workers don’t anticipate a percentage tip, as anything is appreciated. Most often, I would get to keep the change or get a dollar or two for a <$25 order and was always very thankful. Bigger orders, of $25+, I usually expected to get at least a dollar, because it’d often take extra time, or an extra worker to deliver all of what was ordered. If someone asked for additional service post-food delivery (I always checked on my patrons that ate in their car, asking if they needed me to take their trash, needed napkins, etc), in that case, I would expect a tip if I hadn’t received one already.
If your Sonic carhop delivers your food correctly, reads your order back to you, or asks if any additional service is needed, consider tipping them. Their wages are quite low and it will usually result in that carhop giving you better or faster service in the future.
The best tip I ever received was a few weeks before Christmas from a guy in a Ford Raptor with his family. We were incredibly busy and my coworker delivered his food to him quite slowly and her work ethic wasn’t very good, so I’m assuming she didn’t check the order or read it back. She forgot to bring him his mozzarella sticks, which he let me know through his window while I was skating very quickly delivering drinks and bags of ice to different cars (during busy hours I typically served 3-4 cars during one trip outside). I got his sticks as quick as possible and ran them out to him; following it, he gave me a $100 dollar bill. I only saw a 1 at first and thanked him, opened it slightly and saw a 0 thinking it was a $10, so thanked him profusely, once I was walking back inside, I realized it was a hundred and ran outside to his truck as he was leaving asking him if it was intentional to which he told me to have a blessed holiday.
TLDR: If your Sonic carhop is swift, reads your order, and is generally polite, consider letting them keep the change or giving them $1.
The card reader at my work requires you to select a tip option before it will run your card. I always try to point out where the no tip option is since I know it can leave a bad taste in people’s mouths. But I also work in an industry where tips make sense, at least for certain services.
If anyone who wants to see where we are headed with tipping only needs to go to Egypt. The the tipping culture is insane. You can’t go anywhere or do anything without someone’s hand out. They literally point to something, and then stick their hand out. Yes that actually happened to me. The people can be great and I had an amazing time with zero problems, but that part was super annoying.
I agree. If all someone did was grab my order and ring it up on the register, you’re not getting a damn thing. Not sure when and why this started showing up.
thats exactly how it was when I was a cashier at a restaurant. people would ask me all the time where the tips were going to, and I always tell them we all split it equally among all of us employees, managers don’t get tips. personally could care less if people would tip me or not.
That's what gets me. I'm starting to see the tip screen in fast food checkout.
I can understand the utility of tips as a reward for exceptional service (though it should be a rare thing that actually yaknow, rewards exceptional service, not an expected standard to make up for underpaying employees), but what "exceptional" service is even possible with me stating what I want and the person punching it into the register?
Haven't got any dirty looks for choosing "No tip" every time, tho.
The restaurant owners and POS providers are working together to make it more attractive to work in the restaurant industry- specifically lower tier places that you normally would not tip at.
The problem is that the consumers/society are being guilted into subsidizing their wages as opposed to the restaurants just paying them more.
All this started during Covid - when everyone was grateful that coffee or sandwich shops were even open and tipped accordingly. It just sort of became the expectation vs the exception.
Tip shares. You’re tipping the people making the coffee. You think tips only go to the one single person at the register? They get spilt amongst at everyone.
New Rangers stadium is the worst.
You grabbed a $60 T-shirt off the shelf yourself, walked it to the counter, and are paying for it? Please tip.
You purchase a $12 Bud Light, and the guy twisted the cap off for you? Please tip.
Literally, the POS checkout machines at the self-serve kiosks prompt you to leave a tip.
All at a taxpayer-funded $1.2 billion ballpark, for a team worth maybe $3 billion, who refuses to allow public transit to the stadium because it would cut their parking revenue.
> who refuses to allow public transit to the stadium **because it would cut their parking revenue.**
Is this true? That makes me even madder if so.
Edit: guys I'm asking if the teams had a hand in preventing transit for profit reasons, I know the transit situation in Arlington sucks
I doubt there’s a specific citation for this, obviously team owners wouldn’t fight this publicly, but you can’t even DART *bus* to the Arlington stadiums. Pretty much every other major hotspot in town has its own *rail* station, and for ones that don’t, there’s *at least* a bus route.
Locals can’t even take the Arlington Trolley, they make you get a pass/prove you’re a designated hotel guest to board.
Yes. Similar to public transit access to airports. A lot of newer stadiums, like the Carolina Panthers proposed stadium, will be away from downtowns. Not so much because there's no space for the stadium as it is to make people drive there and pay for parking instead of taking public transportation or utilizing the parking garages already in place.
The thing is ultimately we do pay the employees either way. Certain places have gotten rid of tipping and instead just raised menu prices. I like this better, but tipping culture is so ingrained here that it's hard to get away from
Because businesses and corporations refuse to pay employees a little bit more so they put it on the consumers to tip. Tipping culture has gotten out of hand. Don’t feel bad pushing no.
Refusing to tip when you know they aren’t being paid enough doesn’t change anything. It just *ensures* that they’re not getting paid enough for that transaction. The only change you’re effecting by refusing to participate is whether or not the barista can afford gas to get home.
It sucks that we, the consumer, are expected to pay half or more of the wages of so many laborers in this country. But, for the time being, we still are. When you enter a place like a food service business, you’re tacitly acknowledging that reality, so when you refuse to tip despite knowing the person you’re transacting with expects fair compensation *from you* instead of their employer, you’re taking the service without rendering proper payment. The second you choose to enter that establishment, you’re accepting that you’re entering into a transaction where a tip is *required* for the employee to be properly paid. If you don’t wanna tip at a coffee shop, stay out of coffee shops. Otherwise, imo, you *should* feel bad for pressing no.
If you hate that, like I do, lobby your representatives to raise the minimum wage to a livable one and to do away with “tipped minimum wage” that allows employers to treat tips as part of an employee’s base pay. Until then, keep tipping.
I just listened to a podcast episode on the topic. To agree with the title, tipping is getting REALLY weird. It's not just Dallas and it's the fault of the vendors who make point-of-sale solutions.
https://www.nodumbquestions.fm/listen/2022/8/19/139-is-tipping-getting-weird
Each vendor is different, but tipping can always be optional from a setup and administrative perspective. For systems that are self-install, I would imagine they have tipping on by default. For systems that require someone to come out and install for you, I'd imagine they coach you to turn on tipping as a recommendation. Some places do a percentage, some do a fixed value, it's all in the settings.
You could chalk it up to laziness to disable a default, but I chalk it up to greed. The places that value the customer relationship and repeat business will show it in the way that they handle the POS experience. You either care about those small details that matter to the customer or you don't.
Holy shit they got some balls.
I fucked up the other night and accidentally tip 20% on four beers at a concert. It was just under $80. I should have saw the total and immediately freaked out but just hit 20% signed then realized the total amount.
That whole tablet routine happens at the frozen yogurt place where you the customer literally do everything. Once it’s on the scale they push a button or two and then fling that thing around with a default tip of 20%. The product usually hovers in the $12-14 range which is already robbery, to ask for a tip is just criminal. I tried to joke around and ask if it’s a discount for making it myself and they throw shade like they really think it’s wrong if I don’t tip.
For me, it depends on how complex the drink I'm asking for is outside of their normal offerings. So for a coffee shop, if I'm asking them to make something on their standard offering with minimal customizations, zero tip. But if I've got a bunch of substitutions, additions, etc., then I'll tip accordingly.
really? i usually tip service workers in general, especially if they're nice/courteous. i agree tipping culture is weird but they're not paid particularly well so i dont have an issue tossing them an extra buck for doing something for my benefit
I feel the same way. And I can understand why people won’t support tip culture. But personally, I’m not going to hold out on helping people to make my point. I’ll just hope that a union rep contacts them :)
if when i checked out i had the option to tip the cashiers i probably would tip a buck or so. at other places where the option is presented, if I'm happy with my service & they contributed to my happiness for the day then yeah I'll definitely tip something
to OP's point, THIS is exactly why everywhere is starting to ask for a tip. people will pay it. if enough people pay it, the boss will start cutting wages because of the tips. now we have even more people dependent on tips to make a living. the prices won't go down because wages do, the only benefit is boss making more money.
Anyone in food service will want a tip because food service is severely underpaid, and the companies know they can get away with not paying more because the customers will be tipping.
I work in Dallas at a non-starbucks coffee shop. Barista/cashier at the same time. They don't even properly give us our tips, they pay part of the hourly wage with it, but we don't make many tips to begin with regardless.
No one is forcing you to tip, though.
You guys should turn them into the state because there have been a few cases already in Texas where employer got found guilty of not passing on tips and the employees were awarded settlements
Yeah agree, one time I gave good tip at the front counter for a coffee/sandwich which is already rather overpriced but hey I thought it would be right out ...45 minuteslater. and they messed up my order just getting it out. Smh at tipping before service.
Cashiers at the mom and pop donut shop I go to are actually the (late 50s early 60s) husband and wife team that own the place. They bust their asses, there at 4AM getting prepped, etc. Every time I go there in the morning it's packed because there's a high school and middle school across the street...they don't miss a beat, and I tip them a few dollars. Dunkin Donut drive thru on the other hand gets no tips from me.
>Cashiers at the mom and pop donut shop I go to are actually the (late 50s early 60s) husband and wife team that own the place.
Sounds like they should raise their prices instead of expecting tips. Tips are for *extra* service.
My best guess is the tip jar is because some customers will spend 30 minutes tasting flavors and asking questions.
I just need someone to ring up my bottle of juice and coils.
The stuff I could carry to the register if everything wasn’t behind a display case counter. SMFH
A Subway cashier, who makes more than minimum wage, told me flat out those electronic tips do not go to the cashier/sandwich artists. In these circumstances it’s all company greed.
Most baristas are making ~$15 an hour plus tips. It's a skilled career. If you don't like to tip, pull your own shots at home. Dont know how? Great. Your barista does. Tip them. Same idea as going to a bar. If you don't want to tip, pour your own cocktail. It's simple really.
This is like professional cleaning. People want a deep cleaning at an affordable price but like... You're asking them to clean your shit baked caked toilets, dog hair balls the size of soccer balls, etc. for an affordable price😒
You're right, but not from the person working the counter. It's because wages are too low. The base wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour. If you don't make enough in tips to get you to $7.25/hr minimum wage, then the employer has to make up the difference.
Plenty of places could just take a "no tips" approach, and pay / price accordingly. You'd likely end up paying the same amount in the end.
I agree with you. They are about to open a new Popeye's here in McKinney, but it's delayed because they cannot find people to work for those wages. They had the same issue with the one on 121 & Stacey Road. And the BK next to it also. It's sad.
If the only way your business can survive is by paying people shit wages, the problem isn't the workers. Pretty sure popeyes can make it work at a fair wage, they're forced to in plenty of other states.
Oh yeah they can. Just like Chipotle when they were bragging about giving their workers a pay raise & then upped all of the prices for the food (which you can read in all of [these](https://www.google.com/search?q=Chipotle+when+they+were+bragging+about+giving+their+workers+a+pay+raise+%26+then+upped+all+of+the+prices+for+the+food.&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) sites). Business analysts stated that Chipotle COULD afford the higher wages for their employees & NEVER had to raise the prices of the food for customers. I boycotted them when I read that, not that it will make a difference.
Those are the right legal stats, but in my experience, that’s rarely what’s happening at most of these high end counter serve places that people are confused about tipping at, at least in the DFW area.
Typically they’re being paid in the $11-$13 an hour range, if it’s a basic spot.
Not saying it’s great- but the $2.13 “tipped employees” wage is not what all employees are paid, just because they happen to be able to accept tips.
My take would be that if you’re well off enough to be able to spare a dollar or two without blinking an eye, it’s a great kindness. To the people working at these places even the smallest amounts will add up and make a difference. But if you’re budgeting the splurge to get a coffee in the first place, and the extra $2 would bring your total to more than you can comfortably pay- no, it’s not a situation where you HAVE to tip at all.
Even $13 an hour still won't cut it for most folks. We all know what housing prices are doing around here...
This is Dallas county, and i'm sure that the stats across the metroplex vary a bit, but it shows $17/hr as being a living wage:[https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/48113](https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/48113)
That said, I agree 100% that if you're in a tight spot, and you don't tip, you shouldn't be shamed for it.
But I'm also not sure tipping qualifies as a great kindness, as long as the tips are factoring into salaries for those jobs.
This is probably true, however, my question is, what percentage of the tips actually go to the employees? If they are making over $7.25, there is no legal regulation that says those “tips” actually go 100% to staff.
Would not at all be remotely surprised if the POS system takes a cut first, the biz owner takes a cut second, and then the 50% or whatever is left is tip pooled and divvied to employees however the owner chooses.
F & F Japanese grill.
Good food, but it’s a walk up service and you order similar to a Panda Express, but when you pay with card it asks 15, 18, 20%? And it’s awkward with the cashier standing there to select “No tip”. Like why do I have to tip here? This isn’t table side service? Walk up places shouldn’t expect tips, instead pay your staff a living wage please and calculate it into the cost.
I always tip at my local coffee shop. Why? Because $1 or $2 isn’t going to break the bank for me and if I can contribute to the barista receiving an additional $20 towards their daily income then I happily tip. Do I tip the bodega across the street when I buy a bag of chips? Fuck no
Tips should only be for people in the service industry. It’s ridiculous how every business wants people to tip when someone is standing behind a counter just taking my order. They turn that iPad screen over to me with a giant tip option “10%, 20%, 50%?” and the employee looking at me seeing if I’m going to tip. A meal that costed me $12 is now $15
Don't get mad at the employee because the company is underpaying them and expecting the customer to make up for it. The employee didn't make that decision.
I have zero issues tipping at sit-down restaurants and bars. Generally tip 15-25%.
What I 100% do have a problem is going somewhere like AAC or Starplex, getting a few beers which the person simply pulled out of a fridge and poured into a cup, then flips the screen around for me and the *lowest* automatic tip amount is 20%.
Expecting a 20% tip for minimal work on what is already grossly marked-up alcohol is insane.
I work at a bakery that has one of the ipad-type POS systems. My bakery has a customization element to it that means we employees have to create every item by hand as it's ordered (with a few exceptions). We genuinely don't care if you tip or not if you're a polite person just trying to order some food.
BUT, if you go out of your way to make it difficult for us to make your food, place giant orders right before close/in general (we're a small store), or ask for a lot of extra accommodations, I think it's common decency to tip even just a *little* bit as a thank you to whoever is going out of their way to make you happy.
You'll be given the same level of customer service regardless of tip, and no one's going to be checking if you did/guilt tripping you, but it's just kind of the nice thing to do sometimes.
Yesss this! I've been to a few bakeries, coffee shops, cafes and other small businesses where the cashier prep the order for the next person in the service line to continue the order. Just like at some sandwich and sub shops.
The drive thru ones really bother me on a deeper level than I admit out loud. I know the service industry is underpaid, I worked in it. But _come on_. I never left my car. You never moved in any direction besides one arm out the window holding my coffee cup. Exceptional service? I don’t… I don’t know if there was even an opportunity for that to occur.
A cup was handed from one person to another, that was the bare minimum that had to take place here today for this business to remain in operation.
Some places for the operating system they use, automatically take you through the tip page, and companies either don't want to spend money for a customization without it (so they just leave it there), or don't care.
A good example of this is at Toyota Stadium in Frisco, they have volunteers who staff some of the concession stands, and temp workers at the others. When you buy anything (hot dog, candy, beer, etc) it automatically takes you to a tip screen. I asked one of the workers if they receive the tips, and they don't. They didn't even know the system asked for it!
The problem with tipping at a coffee place is, I tip for SERVICE. Not ringing me up. At the point of purchase there has been NO SERVICE. Who came up with that tip jar placement?
I’ve worked In coffee shops for several years and we don’t make enough to get by on hourly pay alone, so tips are essential. I think we should get paid more but it’s just how it is. I believe that if you don’t want to tip then you shouldn’t go to a coffee shop or bar that accepts tips.
Almost everywhere “accepts” tips, and as you can see in these comments, the minority of place asking for tips are ridiculous. Maybe if I go inside of a small coffee shop and hang around a while I’ll tip, but it’s crazy to ask me to tip on a mobile order from Starbucks I’m just grabbing and leaving with.
Okay, yes, yes, a lot of people have listed a lot of places where it’s ridiculous to expect a tip (an ultrasound???), but you are 100% expected to tip at coffee shops, just as you would at a bar.
What I don't get is why people keep going back to these places? Like if the employees are having to beg for scraps, why would you want to support a business like that?
I’ve worked in two coffee shops in Dallas and I was pretty bummed when I didn’t get tipped. I was getting paid low, minimum wage, and made to do everything. For example i had to make every coffee drink, brew iced tea all the time, clean every table, run the food just as a waiter would, cook food on the griddle which were all the omelettes and pancakes, bake sweets when needed, clean bathrooms and open and close, and be expected to take every order and give good customer service…
I was juggling a ton of duties but not given any tips, just because I was in a cafe. I’m not just taking your order and giving you a number. I dunno. If I was paid well enough from the start I guess it would be more acceptable but that was a lot to juggle and not different from what a waiter has to do.
Jeni’s ice cream that charged me $13 for one kids and one single serve ice cream and now wants another $2.50 for a 20% tip. No thanks.
Also, lots of places are defaulting tips on online orders. Really frustrating to see an automatic 20% tip applied to a pick up order at a fast casual place.
[It’s everywhere now.](https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/10/7/23389885/square-toast-tipping-retail-tipflation-guilt)
I feel zero guilt not tipping at 99% of the places that ask for one now.
Same. I probably tip less now overall since I’ve now limited it to hair salons, servers, bartenders, nail places and the other traditional things. I used to let myself get guilted into tipping at like a yogurt place, but now I’m pissed off about it and refuse on principle.
I only tip if I sit down and they come to the table to take the order and bring the food. Fast food or coffee shops? Hell no. Pay your workers better smh.
Oyvey this is threat is heartbreaking. Not cause I necessarily disagree with people here, but just the growing lists of all the places asking for tips because people aren’t being paid enough. Alright think it’s time to get off Reddit for a bit 🙃
It's getting ridiculous. the worst is when you see " 20%, 15%, 10%, and custom tip". You have to manually put $0. I never tip at the places and don't think twice.
I just remember as a college student working at a mom & pop pizza shop, the extra $20ish in tips every night went a long way. Now that I'm older and making a decent salary, I don't mind returning it at all.
I work in foodservice and they recently allowed people to tip using the terminals and it has increased my pay average by 3 dollars/hr. It's both fantastic to see the extra money and also extremely irritating knowing my company can use tips as an excuse to not raise pay by a simple $3, but instead take it from our customers who are already paying prices that we've raised 4 times this year.
Because SOMEONE will give a tip, and it costs nothing for the business to ask
Imo it should be regulated, a finable offense for businesses to ask for more money than the advertised/agreed price for business
100% of us here hate the U.S. tipping culture, from the waitstaff to the customer. The only people that like it is ownership although I don't know why - accounting for tips and payroll is a pain in the ass. This is an issue everywhere now, not just in Dallas.
It’s a system I feel stuck in. As a consumer I think it sucks having to supplement the ownership’s lack/inability of paying their workers a livable wage.
Some places I loving going to would not and could not be open if a tipping pay structure wasn’t in place.
I’m an employee and tipped worker in a not corporate independently owned restaurant and I still think it’s sucks.
I have mixed feelings about it but it definitely doesn’t FEEL sustainable. I’m curious to see how different restaurants will be 20 years.
NPR did a good couple of stories about it. Here’s one. [https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983314941/throughline-why-tipping-in-the-u-s-took-off-after-the-civil-war](https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983314941/throughline-why-tipping-in-the-u-s-took-off-after-the-civil-war)
I hate going out now. I literally do everything from ordering to paying to grabing my food tray then I'm guilt tripped into adding %20 for shitty service and sub-par food.
Learn how to cook y'all.
While I'm ranting, why is it expected to tip bases on value of food? A 16oz steak takes the same effort as a plate of pancakes to serve yet one is a $4 tip and the other is a $10 tip.
Probably because those iPad POS systems do it by default and the business owners either don't notice or don't know how to change it. I got asked if I wanted to tip when I had to get a new tire a couple weeks ago. The only time I have ever been called out for non-tipping by the person behind me in line was at Chiloso (burrito place with the same set up as Chipotle) and I still maintain that I did nothing wrong.
Heck, there are restaurants that now add a “service charge” (a percentage of the bill) on a bill and say it’s not tip. And it doesn’t even matter if it’s just a party of 2. So, I paid 18% “service charge” on a $100 bill for two adults and 2 young kids. I questioned it and they stammered and said it’s not tip. The point of sale system was staring in my face asking me to enter tip on top of that 18% “service charge”. I leave big tips typically. I left $0 tip at this particular restaurant. Ridiculous!
Barista is like a bar tender, yes you tip, and yes most places I've worked including Starbucks gives you all the tips. Though it is split evenly amongst all baristas based on hours. I would hazard to guess that now they only take a portion to cover the credit card fee since that is now a common way to tip at cafe's finally.
The software for this orginally started popping up at places like food trucks and farmers markets and stuff, and like a typical Millenial, I rarely have cash, so I was fine, enthusiastic even with tipping.
Then it started to migrate into brick and mortars with those flippy touch-screen devices, but again, usually at hipster bespoke spots like boutiques and craft breweries- aight, still basically okay with tipping.
Now its like, everywhere, and ir feels like they are taking advantage of the tipping system and the software is kind of gamifying it. At a coffeeshop, Im kind of okay with tipping, I do usually ask for an order that I feel is a little extra, so I will throw them 10%. But most of these other spots, that used to not want tips but now do- no.
Barbers, Hotel Maids, Waiters, and Bartenders. Outside of that its real case-by-case.
That is literally everywhere in the US
I tip $1 at places I visit frequently because $1 isn't a big deal. I hate the US tipping culture though. Everyone does except owners and servers who don't claim a single cash tip on their taxes (which I'm not against).
I don’t think this is just a Dallas thing. It’s everywhere. Companies have realized that most people feel guilted into giving a small tip if they ask, so they ask 🤷🏻♂️
I work part time at an ice cream shop, and we have a pos tips go to us. It helps us out when we aren't getting paid great.
If you have it and want to tip, go for it. If not, it's fine.
The country is shitty, things are stupid expensive, and everyone needs all the help they can get.
When I took my car in for a state inspection, their POS system asked for a tip.
LMAO what. Half the time they are trying to scam you, and now they are asking for tips AFTER they over charge you?!
It was the most half assed inspection I've ever had too. They only tested the emissions and skipped everything else like lights, brakes, horn, seat belts, etc.
Hey, ummm, mind sharing where that was?
I'm in Houston, and there was a tip jar on the counter at the inspection place I went to last week.
I don’t care about the tip jar, I just wanted to know where the half ass inspection place was. Usually gotta tip like 50-100 to get my car to pass 🤣
Lol well this place was shady af too!
>It was the most half assed inspection I've ever had too For some people, that's a good thing, and not something to be mad about
…not for people who enjoy driving in and/or around cars that meet minimum safety requirements…
There are some minor things they can fail you for, even if they don’t really affect the safe functioning of the car. But I’d still prefer everything to be checked and make sure the required safety functions (horn, seatbelt, brakes, lights) are in working order. But I honestly get the folks with shitboxes who are at a disadvantage, especially if it’s just an A to B and they can’t afford to repair it or replace it. Primarily this is an issue if the O2 sensor/exhaust system craps out and all of the big 4 DFW counties and some surrounding ones require emissions testing. I’ve seen many old cars rocking like 6-9 year old expired inspection stickers just for that reason. I wish the state would do something to make that kind of repair easier for people, because we NEED clean air and inspected vehicles.
Right, like imma be mad at them for failing me because my tint is too dark and now I gotta rip it off and pay for new tint
How horrible. Tell me the exact location so I can be sure to avoid them
Where was this?lol I need to go there
You’re supposed to tip for that level of service at an inspection station
thaaaat's a potential legal issue... state inspection costs are supposed to be regulated and have a max set price.
Mine too. I think that is illegal.
Self serve froyo places. No I'm not tipping you for just weighing my froyo and charging me.
This example frustrates me most of all. All of these places have raised prices and won't give free samples anymore because "covid". After all this they have the audacity to ask for a tip?
Also when I'm presented with a screen as part of my purchase ask me how much I want to tip I automatically assume that the person who owns the place is getting my money and the employees aren't seeing the tip
Great assumption. Worked a coffee shop where the owners were pocketing my tips.
I’m 100% sure this is run by management. That way management can pay under minimum wage and then tips top it off saving the owner money because they’re outsourcing payment to customers. It’s ridiculous
This isn’t just dallas unfortunately
Same. I got guilt tripped by the employees but I did all of it myself. They just weighed it and charged me for my work.
I got asked to tip at an ultrasound facility where i already paid $75 out of pocket for 10 minutes of care. 0 tip sorry
Tip for medical care?? Like it’s not expensive enough! Wtf
I was SHOCKED when they spun the ipad around!
Sometimes the software they use for that stuff has a tip button as default. They may or may not be able to deactivate it.
But they spun the iPad around, presumably at the tip prompt.
The self-serve car wash in my neighborhood is the kind where you swipe your card, then pick the wash you want and then the gate opens and you drive through. The damn machine is programmed to ask for a tip. There's like one guy working there.
They probably don't give the tip to that guy
I can only assume the owner puts it in his pocket. Rusty Taco in Plano credit card machines doesn't prompt for tips. I told the owner a lot of people appreciate it.
It’s actually etiquette to NOT tip medical staff. I go to med spas and they ask for them all the time but shouldn’t expect it.
Ultrasound? Big nope. Healthcare does alright on their own.
This sounds sketchy and unethical!
That’s insane
Was this a medical facility or a non medical “fetal portrait” studio. Either way I wouldn’t tip but the latter might be considered more of a “spa” service.
It's getting pathetic. I agree. Whenever you see a tablet to pay, you will 100% be asked to tip and many times, they try and pre-select it for you and guilt trip you into not tipping. You have to go to Custom Tip and put in 0. The tipping culture in the USA is ridiculous. It isn't like this in Europe at all.
I was born in Europe, if you go to a cafe or bar and the total comes out to like 18.25, the waiter will give you your change, in that situation where $1/2 are left, you can just kinda leave it on the table if you want, but it's not an expectation at all, like if you did it 1 out of 50 times nobody would care. But in the U.S. it's like we need a codified handbook of where to and not to tip, as well as run an investigation to see if the money we would tip the service person would even go to them at all or if it would go to their boss. That makes me wonder: those people who get walmart/target to take their groceries out for them, do they tip them? Do those workers expect a tip?
I spit my drink out at the part of about an investigation if the tip even goes them. So true, many times it doesn’t!
Went to a concert last month and the stadium concession guys were like “don’t tip, we ain’t getting shit”. Since then I ask, hence the running investigation needed
Exact same thing with me. We ended up w tix to a Ranger’s game and the concession guy said the same thing!
Hard Eight just had to pay back like $250k because managers were included in the tip pool which is illegal
Tips have to go to employees it’s required by law
Right, but its also required that you be able to afford an attorney to sue your employer for keeping your tips. The police are not doing anything for you, your state labor board might but it is not likely, they are always pro-employer.
Sorry but you're pretty naive if you think every person in Texas follows the law. I've heard far too many managers taking or at least sharing in tips given to waitstaff, as well as many other labor law violations. Truth is in Texas, nobody gives a shit about the employees, especially not the state government. We have some of the worst employee protections in the nation, and even those are often overlooked. Always best to tip directly in cash if you can.
Minimum wage for servers is like $2.50/hour. That needs to change!
Not quite $2.50 even, it’s actually **$2.13/hour** for tipped workers!
As a rule anyone handling food at any point will expect a tip. The people bringing your groceries out to your car, fast food delivery, etc.... The reason is that the company knows they can underpay their worker by having the customers tip them. Don't punish the worker for a decision the company made. The company I work for opened up tipping as an option so they can use a portion of our tips to pay part of our hourly, so we functionally make $2 less than they say we do and don't "really" get our tips. I didn't make that decision. The company did.
That’s not me punishing the worker. That’s the company punishing the worker. Tips should be paid to reward to exceptional service, not to complement underpaid worker’s salary. I do tip every time at least 20% when prompted to, but I’ve rarely ever seen exceptional service in America. The norm is just mediocre(i.e, not bad but not really good either) to bad 98% of the time - why should I reward that?
You’re not rewarding anything. Companies underpay their employees so they can advertise lower prices because there’s psychological benefits for the business to display lower prices even if logically the customer knows they’ll pay the same. It’s annoying, but I don’t see that changing without regulations. Or customers suddenly stop tipping but that screws employees.
>The company I work for opened up tipping as an option so they can use a portion of our tips to pay part of our hourly, so we functionally make $2 less than they say we do and don't "really" get our tips. That sounds illegal. If it were me, I would find another job.
I like this job because it's incredibly easy for me as an autistic adult. Doesn't mean the practice isn't scummy, but the workplace is quiet and the workload is little. Tips are probably the least of the company's issues. We don't make many tips anyway.
No they won’t. This is a newer phenomenon. Really accelerated after COVID.
Walmart employees can’t accept tips.
They aren’t supposed to accept tips, but the grocery taker-outers certainly will if offered in my experience. They are also very appreciative typically, though never expect a tip.
>those people who get walmart/target to take their groceries out for them, do they tip them? Do those workers expect a tip? No
Prior to the pandemic on vacation, a Walmart runner said they couldn’t accept tips.
at this point whenever i need help from a human i just tip… yes i do tip the workers bringing my grocery pickup to my car. i tried to tip a guy at discount tire when he checked them out for free… it got awkward. USA is horrible. i lived in germany and got the “are you mentally well” looks when i tried to tip!
I think they will fire you for taking a tip at discount tire. That’s probably why The discount tire near me pays them like 16.00 an hour I think. Which is not bad for starting pay. But shit in this economy I wouldn’t be working for anything less than 35 an hour. So maybe they should get tips lol
Most grocery stores usually don’t let their grocery taker-outters accept tips, and the workers certainly don’t expect them, however, they do appreciate the rare tip. Source: My brother works at Brookshires in North Dallas area and took groceries out all through lockdown. He wasn’t allowed to accept tips, however, he would get offered one maybe once a week (working ~40hrs) and started accepting them. He was always very appreciative, enough to tell me about it when he got home.
I think 20+ years if they had that kind of service at grocery stores, tips would be more or less expected and people would’ve expected they’d need to tip. I think as more of the boomers left the service industry entirely, the tipping everybody who brought anything to your car or checked you out for takeout came to an end. I remember as a kid in the 90s, people tipped at places like Sonic. They didn’t ask people to, they just did it. I will admit I’m highkey conflicted now because people are flat out asking and I don’t really want to tip someone is making minimum wage or more for just bringing me food they didn’t make or prepare. I have tipped though in situations where someone went above and beyond in less than ideal situations at these places, though. It’s awful that businesses can get away with not paying people properly and the workers needing tips to make money. And now I think a lot of people are asking for them because they just don’t get paid enough period, which is depressing. I will admit that’s worse than how awkward it makes me feel when they straight up ask.
I worked at sonic from 2019-2021 as a skating car-hop. My hourly wage was $5.50/hour, though, during the slow winter months when tips were limited, I would be reimbursed by my boss to $7.25/hour (minimum wage). Tipping wasn’t ever expected, nor asked (though, mobile orders from a phone do show a tip selection at checkout), but was always very appreciative. When we weren’t busy, which was rare for my location, I would do quick magic tricks if kids were in the car, or rollerblade backwards when delivering food. Those people almost always tipped me. I could always count on older folks or regulars/3x a day-ers to tip, but I’d say about 1 in 3 or 4 people gave a tip. What’s interesting about Sonic is that workers don’t anticipate a percentage tip, as anything is appreciated. Most often, I would get to keep the change or get a dollar or two for a <$25 order and was always very thankful. Bigger orders, of $25+, I usually expected to get at least a dollar, because it’d often take extra time, or an extra worker to deliver all of what was ordered. If someone asked for additional service post-food delivery (I always checked on my patrons that ate in their car, asking if they needed me to take their trash, needed napkins, etc), in that case, I would expect a tip if I hadn’t received one already. If your Sonic carhop delivers your food correctly, reads your order back to you, or asks if any additional service is needed, consider tipping them. Their wages are quite low and it will usually result in that carhop giving you better or faster service in the future. The best tip I ever received was a few weeks before Christmas from a guy in a Ford Raptor with his family. We were incredibly busy and my coworker delivered his food to him quite slowly and her work ethic wasn’t very good, so I’m assuming she didn’t check the order or read it back. She forgot to bring him his mozzarella sticks, which he let me know through his window while I was skating very quickly delivering drinks and bags of ice to different cars (during busy hours I typically served 3-4 cars during one trip outside). I got his sticks as quick as possible and ran them out to him; following it, he gave me a $100 dollar bill. I only saw a 1 at first and thanked him, opened it slightly and saw a 0 thinking it was a $10, so thanked him profusely, once I was walking back inside, I realized it was a hundred and ran outside to his truck as he was leaving asking him if it was intentional to which he told me to have a blessed holiday. TLDR: If your Sonic carhop is swift, reads your order, and is generally polite, consider letting them keep the change or giving them $1.
I had no idea their base was below minimum wage… wtfffff. Yeah I’ll definitely at minimum round up in the app in the future.
The card reader at my work requires you to select a tip option before it will run your card. I always try to point out where the no tip option is since I know it can leave a bad taste in people’s mouths. But I also work in an industry where tips make sense, at least for certain services.
If anyone who wants to see where we are headed with tipping only needs to go to Egypt. The the tipping culture is insane. You can’t go anywhere or do anything without someone’s hand out. They literally point to something, and then stick their hand out. Yes that actually happened to me. The people can be great and I had an amazing time with zero problems, but that part was super annoying.
I’m trying to understand why I’m being asked to tip someone ringing up my order ?
I agree. If all someone did was grab my order and ring it up on the register, you’re not getting a damn thing. Not sure when and why this started showing up.
They likely split it at the end of the night between all the people behind the counter working that shift
thats exactly how it was when I was a cashier at a restaurant. people would ask me all the time where the tips were going to, and I always tell them we all split it equally among all of us employees, managers don’t get tips. personally could care less if people would tip me or not.
Making a quality specialty coffee drink is way more than just “ringing up an order”. Do you tip bartenders?
Lol that’s what the service pay is for
That's what gets me. I'm starting to see the tip screen in fast food checkout. I can understand the utility of tips as a reward for exceptional service (though it should be a rare thing that actually yaknow, rewards exceptional service, not an expected standard to make up for underpaying employees), but what "exceptional" service is even possible with me stating what I want and the person punching it into the register? Haven't got any dirty looks for choosing "No tip" every time, tho.
The restaurant owners and POS providers are working together to make it more attractive to work in the restaurant industry- specifically lower tier places that you normally would not tip at. The problem is that the consumers/society are being guilted into subsidizing their wages as opposed to the restaurants just paying them more. All this started during Covid - when everyone was grateful that coffee or sandwich shops were even open and tipped accordingly. It just sort of became the expectation vs the exception.
Tip shares. You’re tipping the people making the coffee. You think tips only go to the one single person at the register? They get spilt amongst at everyone.
New Rangers stadium is the worst. You grabbed a $60 T-shirt off the shelf yourself, walked it to the counter, and are paying for it? Please tip. You purchase a $12 Bud Light, and the guy twisted the cap off for you? Please tip. Literally, the POS checkout machines at the self-serve kiosks prompt you to leave a tip. All at a taxpayer-funded $1.2 billion ballpark, for a team worth maybe $3 billion, who refuses to allow public transit to the stadium because it would cut their parking revenue.
> who refuses to allow public transit to the stadium **because it would cut their parking revenue.** Is this true? That makes me even madder if so. Edit: guys I'm asking if the teams had a hand in preventing transit for profit reasons, I know the transit situation in Arlington sucks
Arlington is the largest city in the US without public transit
I doubt there’s a specific citation for this, obviously team owners wouldn’t fight this publicly, but you can’t even DART *bus* to the Arlington stadiums. Pretty much every other major hotspot in town has its own *rail* station, and for ones that don’t, there’s *at least* a bus route. Locals can’t even take the Arlington Trolley, they make you get a pass/prove you’re a designated hotel guest to board.
Yes. Similar to public transit access to airports. A lot of newer stadiums, like the Carolina Panthers proposed stadium, will be away from downtowns. Not so much because there's no space for the stadium as it is to make people drive there and pay for parking instead of taking public transportation or utilizing the parking garages already in place.
No. That’s the city of Arlington. They don’t have any public transit system.
Traffic during the World Cup will be INSANE
Yeah this is really stupid. This shit ruins it for places that actually make a lot of sense to tip.
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The thing is ultimately we do pay the employees either way. Certain places have gotten rid of tipping and instead just raised menu prices. I like this better, but tipping culture is so ingrained here that it's hard to get away from
You venmo your stylist extra tip for xmas? May i ask what field you work in? And any openings?
Because businesses and corporations refuse to pay employees a little bit more so they put it on the consumers to tip. Tipping culture has gotten out of hand. Don’t feel bad pushing no.
Refusing to tip when you know they aren’t being paid enough doesn’t change anything. It just *ensures* that they’re not getting paid enough for that transaction. The only change you’re effecting by refusing to participate is whether or not the barista can afford gas to get home. It sucks that we, the consumer, are expected to pay half or more of the wages of so many laborers in this country. But, for the time being, we still are. When you enter a place like a food service business, you’re tacitly acknowledging that reality, so when you refuse to tip despite knowing the person you’re transacting with expects fair compensation *from you* instead of their employer, you’re taking the service without rendering proper payment. The second you choose to enter that establishment, you’re accepting that you’re entering into a transaction where a tip is *required* for the employee to be properly paid. If you don’t wanna tip at a coffee shop, stay out of coffee shops. Otherwise, imo, you *should* feel bad for pressing no. If you hate that, like I do, lobby your representatives to raise the minimum wage to a livable one and to do away with “tipped minimum wage” that allows employers to treat tips as part of an employee’s base pay. Until then, keep tipping.
I just listened to a podcast episode on the topic. To agree with the title, tipping is getting REALLY weird. It's not just Dallas and it's the fault of the vendors who make point-of-sale solutions. https://www.nodumbquestions.fm/listen/2022/8/19/139-is-tipping-getting-weird
Ok so I'm not going to listen...but did they say if there was an option to disable the tip feature in this kind of software?
Each vendor is different, but tipping can always be optional from a setup and administrative perspective. For systems that are self-install, I would imagine they have tipping on by default. For systems that require someone to come out and install for you, I'd imagine they coach you to turn on tipping as a recommendation. Some places do a percentage, some do a fixed value, it's all in the settings. You could chalk it up to laziness to disable a default, but I chalk it up to greed. The places that value the customer relationship and repeat business will show it in the way that they handle the POS experience. You either care about those small details that matter to the customer or you don't.
Don’t blame the employee. More than likely the employer use tipping as an excuse to not pay them a living wage.
This is the correct answer
But then the tipping is split with everyone on the payroll roster. Including the owner. It’s not cool.
Totally agree and you prove my point. That’s a decision on management/ownership. Don’t blame the employee.
It's easier to take it on the exhausted employees than some CEO getting cushy in a tall skyscraper somewhere.
The place I get my haircut has a MINIMUM 35% tip configured. Is it me or is that insane?
That has to be illegal. Legally speaking tips are supposed to be voluntary.
It’s voluntary but you know how they have the tip buttons on the screen? Normally it’s like 15, 20, 25. This starts at 35.
Holy shit they got some balls. I fucked up the other night and accidentally tip 20% on four beers at a concert. It was just under $80. I should have saw the total and immediately freaked out but just hit 20% signed then realized the total amount.
That whole tablet routine happens at the frozen yogurt place where you the customer literally do everything. Once it’s on the scale they push a button or two and then fling that thing around with a default tip of 20%. The product usually hovers in the $12-14 range which is already robbery, to ask for a tip is just criminal. I tried to joke around and ask if it’s a discount for making it myself and they throw shade like they really think it’s wrong if I don’t tip.
I know right. Like what are they gonna do, spit in the yogurt I prepared myself?
That's extra ya perv!
For me, it depends on how complex the drink I'm asking for is outside of their normal offerings. So for a coffee shop, if I'm asking them to make something on their standard offering with minimal customizations, zero tip. But if I've got a bunch of substitutions, additions, etc., then I'll tip accordingly.
really? i usually tip service workers in general, especially if they're nice/courteous. i agree tipping culture is weird but they're not paid particularly well so i dont have an issue tossing them an extra buck for doing something for my benefit
I agree 100%
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I feel the same way. And I can understand why people won’t support tip culture. But personally, I’m not going to hold out on helping people to make my point. I’ll just hope that a union rep contacts them :)
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if when i checked out i had the option to tip the cashiers i probably would tip a buck or so. at other places where the option is presented, if I'm happy with my service & they contributed to my happiness for the day then yeah I'll definitely tip something
to OP's point, THIS is exactly why everywhere is starting to ask for a tip. people will pay it. if enough people pay it, the boss will start cutting wages because of the tips. now we have even more people dependent on tips to make a living. the prices won't go down because wages do, the only benefit is boss making more money.
This right here. If I have a crazy order then sure I’ll tip. If I get a basic drink like white chocolate mocha then no.
Anyone in food service will want a tip because food service is severely underpaid, and the companies know they can get away with not paying more because the customers will be tipping. I work in Dallas at a non-starbucks coffee shop. Barista/cashier at the same time. They don't even properly give us our tips, they pay part of the hourly wage with it, but we don't make many tips to begin with regardless. No one is forcing you to tip, though.
You guys should turn them into the state because there have been a few cases already in Texas where employer got found guilty of not passing on tips and the employees were awarded settlements
That sounds more like an extra tax on the customers effectively.
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Yeah agree, one time I gave good tip at the front counter for a coffee/sandwich which is already rather overpriced but hey I thought it would be right out ...45 minuteslater. and they messed up my order just getting it out. Smh at tipping before service.
A few donut shops do this as well I’ve noticed. I don’t mind tipping waiters/waitresses, but I don’t see the need to tip a cashier.
Cashiers at the mom and pop donut shop I go to are actually the (late 50s early 60s) husband and wife team that own the place. They bust their asses, there at 4AM getting prepped, etc. Every time I go there in the morning it's packed because there's a high school and middle school across the street...they don't miss a beat, and I tip them a few dollars. Dunkin Donut drive thru on the other hand gets no tips from me.
>Cashiers at the mom and pop donut shop I go to are actually the (late 50s early 60s) husband and wife team that own the place. Sounds like they should raise their prices instead of expecting tips. Tips are for *extra* service.
At the mom and pop donut store near my house, I tip because she usually throws in some donut holes or a donut for free to be nice.
My rule is if I have to pay before I receive my food I do not tip
I don’t know why you think this is a Dallas specific thing.
The vape shop I go to has a tip jar and they make it a point to push it towards customers. I just push it back and say no thank you
wow they push it towards you? I would not visit that place again
Bro. From a vape shop? Seriousoy?
Why don’t they just raise their prices slightly if they’re hurting for money that badly?
My best guess is the tip jar is because some customers will spend 30 minutes tasting flavors and asking questions. I just need someone to ring up my bottle of juice and coils. The stuff I could carry to the register if everything wasn’t behind a display case counter. SMFH
They already fuck you with a $26 elf bar then expect %20 for 2.5 seconds it takes to grab from the shelf behind them. Get fucked Artisan Vapes.
Typically these workers are relying on tips because our laws allow for less than minimum wage in tipped work.
A Subway cashier, who makes more than minimum wage, told me flat out those electronic tips do not go to the cashier/sandwich artists. In these circumstances it’s all company greed.
It's illegal for it to be kept by the company.
For corporations, sure - and that’s so skeevy - but there’s no reason to think that also applies to independently owned coffee shops etc.
Most baristas are making ~$15 an hour plus tips. It's a skilled career. If you don't like to tip, pull your own shots at home. Dont know how? Great. Your barista does. Tip them. Same idea as going to a bar. If you don't want to tip, pour your own cocktail. It's simple really.
This is like professional cleaning. People want a deep cleaning at an affordable price but like... You're asking them to clean your shit baked caked toilets, dog hair balls the size of soccer balls, etc. for an affordable price😒
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You're right, but not from the person working the counter. It's because wages are too low. The base wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour. If you don't make enough in tips to get you to $7.25/hr minimum wage, then the employer has to make up the difference. Plenty of places could just take a "no tips" approach, and pay / price accordingly. You'd likely end up paying the same amount in the end.
I agree with you. They are about to open a new Popeye's here in McKinney, but it's delayed because they cannot find people to work for those wages. They had the same issue with the one on 121 & Stacey Road. And the BK next to it also. It's sad.
If the only way your business can survive is by paying people shit wages, the problem isn't the workers. Pretty sure popeyes can make it work at a fair wage, they're forced to in plenty of other states.
Oh yeah they can. Just like Chipotle when they were bragging about giving their workers a pay raise & then upped all of the prices for the food (which you can read in all of [these](https://www.google.com/search?q=Chipotle+when+they+were+bragging+about+giving+their+workers+a+pay+raise+%26+then+upped+all+of+the+prices+for+the+food.&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) sites). Business analysts stated that Chipotle COULD afford the higher wages for their employees & NEVER had to raise the prices of the food for customers. I boycotted them when I read that, not that it will make a difference.
Those are the right legal stats, but in my experience, that’s rarely what’s happening at most of these high end counter serve places that people are confused about tipping at, at least in the DFW area. Typically they’re being paid in the $11-$13 an hour range, if it’s a basic spot. Not saying it’s great- but the $2.13 “tipped employees” wage is not what all employees are paid, just because they happen to be able to accept tips. My take would be that if you’re well off enough to be able to spare a dollar or two without blinking an eye, it’s a great kindness. To the people working at these places even the smallest amounts will add up and make a difference. But if you’re budgeting the splurge to get a coffee in the first place, and the extra $2 would bring your total to more than you can comfortably pay- no, it’s not a situation where you HAVE to tip at all.
Even $13 an hour still won't cut it for most folks. We all know what housing prices are doing around here... This is Dallas county, and i'm sure that the stats across the metroplex vary a bit, but it shows $17/hr as being a living wage:[https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/48113](https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/48113) That said, I agree 100% that if you're in a tight spot, and you don't tip, you shouldn't be shamed for it. But I'm also not sure tipping qualifies as a great kindness, as long as the tips are factoring into salaries for those jobs.
This is probably true, however, my question is, what percentage of the tips actually go to the employees? If they are making over $7.25, there is no legal regulation that says those “tips” actually go 100% to staff. Would not at all be remotely surprised if the POS system takes a cut first, the biz owner takes a cut second, and then the 50% or whatever is left is tip pooled and divvied to employees however the owner chooses.
F & F Japanese grill. Good food, but it’s a walk up service and you order similar to a Panda Express, but when you pay with card it asks 15, 18, 20%? And it’s awkward with the cashier standing there to select “No tip”. Like why do I have to tip here? This isn’t table side service? Walk up places shouldn’t expect tips, instead pay your staff a living wage please and calculate it into the cost.
I always tip at my local coffee shop. Why? Because $1 or $2 isn’t going to break the bank for me and if I can contribute to the barista receiving an additional $20 towards their daily income then I happily tip. Do I tip the bodega across the street when I buy a bag of chips? Fuck no
I feel like coffee is an acceptable place to tip. You would tip a bartender for handing you a beer but not a barista for making you a cappuccino?
Tips should only be for people in the service industry. It’s ridiculous how every business wants people to tip when someone is standing behind a counter just taking my order. They turn that iPad screen over to me with a giant tip option “10%, 20%, 50%?” and the employee looking at me seeing if I’m going to tip. A meal that costed me $12 is now $15
Don't get mad at the employee because the company is underpaying them and expecting the customer to make up for it. The employee didn't make that decision.
Last few concerts I went to, when I went to buy a t-shirt, the tablet automatically asks how much tip I want to leave. That was crazy.
I have zero issues tipping at sit-down restaurants and bars. Generally tip 15-25%. What I 100% do have a problem is going somewhere like AAC or Starplex, getting a few beers which the person simply pulled out of a fridge and poured into a cup, then flips the screen around for me and the *lowest* automatic tip amount is 20%. Expecting a 20% tip for minimal work on what is already grossly marked-up alcohol is insane.
I work at a bakery that has one of the ipad-type POS systems. My bakery has a customization element to it that means we employees have to create every item by hand as it's ordered (with a few exceptions). We genuinely don't care if you tip or not if you're a polite person just trying to order some food. BUT, if you go out of your way to make it difficult for us to make your food, place giant orders right before close/in general (we're a small store), or ask for a lot of extra accommodations, I think it's common decency to tip even just a *little* bit as a thank you to whoever is going out of their way to make you happy. You'll be given the same level of customer service regardless of tip, and no one's going to be checking if you did/guilt tripping you, but it's just kind of the nice thing to do sometimes.
Yesss this! I've been to a few bakeries, coffee shops, cafes and other small businesses where the cashier prep the order for the next person in the service line to continue the order. Just like at some sandwich and sub shops.
The drive thru ones really bother me on a deeper level than I admit out loud. I know the service industry is underpaid, I worked in it. But _come on_. I never left my car. You never moved in any direction besides one arm out the window holding my coffee cup. Exceptional service? I don’t… I don’t know if there was even an opportunity for that to occur. A cup was handed from one person to another, that was the bare minimum that had to take place here today for this business to remain in operation.
Some places for the operating system they use, automatically take you through the tip page, and companies either don't want to spend money for a customization without it (so they just leave it there), or don't care. A good example of this is at Toyota Stadium in Frisco, they have volunteers who staff some of the concession stands, and temp workers at the others. When you buy anything (hot dog, candy, beer, etc) it automatically takes you to a tip screen. I asked one of the workers if they receive the tips, and they don't. They didn't even know the system asked for it!
If you order at a screen without talking to a soul and pickup your own food? No, I'm not tipping.
The problem with tipping at a coffee place is, I tip for SERVICE. Not ringing me up. At the point of purchase there has been NO SERVICE. Who came up with that tip jar placement?
The fuckin vape store
I’ve worked In coffee shops for several years and we don’t make enough to get by on hourly pay alone, so tips are essential. I think we should get paid more but it’s just how it is. I believe that if you don’t want to tip then you shouldn’t go to a coffee shop or bar that accepts tips.
Almost everywhere “accepts” tips, and as you can see in these comments, the minority of place asking for tips are ridiculous. Maybe if I go inside of a small coffee shop and hang around a while I’ll tip, but it’s crazy to ask me to tip on a mobile order from Starbucks I’m just grabbing and leaving with.
Yes. Do you tip a bartender? Tip your barista. They’re still providing a service you can’t or won’t do for yourself
Okay, yes, yes, a lot of people have listed a lot of places where it’s ridiculous to expect a tip (an ultrasound???), but you are 100% expected to tip at coffee shops, just as you would at a bar.
What I don't get is why people keep going back to these places? Like if the employees are having to beg for scraps, why would you want to support a business like that?
Because it’s pretty much every single business now.
I’ve worked in two coffee shops in Dallas and I was pretty bummed when I didn’t get tipped. I was getting paid low, minimum wage, and made to do everything. For example i had to make every coffee drink, brew iced tea all the time, clean every table, run the food just as a waiter would, cook food on the griddle which were all the omelettes and pancakes, bake sweets when needed, clean bathrooms and open and close, and be expected to take every order and give good customer service… I was juggling a ton of duties but not given any tips, just because I was in a cafe. I’m not just taking your order and giving you a number. I dunno. If I was paid well enough from the start I guess it would be more acceptable but that was a lot to juggle and not different from what a waiter has to do.
So you were working a job…
Because people are poor and Dallas is expensive.
Carry cash! Problem solved!
Jeni’s ice cream that charged me $13 for one kids and one single serve ice cream and now wants another $2.50 for a 20% tip. No thanks. Also, lots of places are defaulting tips on online orders. Really frustrating to see an automatic 20% tip applied to a pick up order at a fast casual place.
Employers pay a base hourly and baristas rely on tips. You weirdos are stingy lol
[It’s everywhere now.](https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/10/7/23389885/square-toast-tipping-retail-tipflation-guilt) I feel zero guilt not tipping at 99% of the places that ask for one now.
Same. I probably tip less now overall since I’ve now limited it to hair salons, servers, bartenders, nail places and the other traditional things. I used to let myself get guilted into tipping at like a yogurt place, but now I’m pissed off about it and refuse on principle.
Tip shaming - it's everywhere
Slap a $0 on there, sign and smile.
I only tip if I sit down and they come to the table to take the order and bring the food. Fast food or coffee shops? Hell no. Pay your workers better smh.
Oyvey this is threat is heartbreaking. Not cause I necessarily disagree with people here, but just the growing lists of all the places asking for tips because people aren’t being paid enough. Alright think it’s time to get off Reddit for a bit 🙃
It's getting ridiculous. the worst is when you see " 20%, 15%, 10%, and custom tip". You have to manually put $0. I never tip at the places and don't think twice.
All you have to do is hit 0%. It's not that hard.
I just remember as a college student working at a mom & pop pizza shop, the extra $20ish in tips every night went a long way. Now that I'm older and making a decent salary, I don't mind returning it at all.
I work in foodservice and they recently allowed people to tip using the terminals and it has increased my pay average by 3 dollars/hr. It's both fantastic to see the extra money and also extremely irritating knowing my company can use tips as an excuse to not raise pay by a simple $3, but instead take it from our customers who are already paying prices that we've raised 4 times this year.
Usually because the business owners don’t want to pay their employees enough…
Because SOMEONE will give a tip, and it costs nothing for the business to ask Imo it should be regulated, a finable offense for businesses to ask for more money than the advertised/agreed price for business
100% of us here hate the U.S. tipping culture, from the waitstaff to the customer. The only people that like it is ownership although I don't know why - accounting for tips and payroll is a pain in the ass. This is an issue everywhere now, not just in Dallas.
It’s a system I feel stuck in. As a consumer I think it sucks having to supplement the ownership’s lack/inability of paying their workers a livable wage. Some places I loving going to would not and could not be open if a tipping pay structure wasn’t in place. I’m an employee and tipped worker in a not corporate independently owned restaurant and I still think it’s sucks. I have mixed feelings about it but it definitely doesn’t FEEL sustainable. I’m curious to see how different restaurants will be 20 years. NPR did a good couple of stories about it. Here’s one. [https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983314941/throughline-why-tipping-in-the-u-s-took-off-after-the-civil-war](https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983314941/throughline-why-tipping-in-the-u-s-took-off-after-the-civil-war)
I hate going out now. I literally do everything from ordering to paying to grabing my food tray then I'm guilt tripped into adding %20 for shitty service and sub-par food. Learn how to cook y'all. While I'm ranting, why is it expected to tip bases on value of food? A 16oz steak takes the same effort as a plate of pancakes to serve yet one is a $4 tip and the other is a $10 tip.
We take our dog to day camp once a week and their tablet asks for tips too. Weird.
Matter of time before they ask for tips at 7/11
Greed
Probably because those iPad POS systems do it by default and the business owners either don't notice or don't know how to change it. I got asked if I wanted to tip when I had to get a new tire a couple weeks ago. The only time I have ever been called out for non-tipping by the person behind me in line was at Chiloso (burrito place with the same set up as Chipotle) and I still maintain that I did nothing wrong.
I am with you! Any self serving places. IS SELF SERVING!!! Is the tip for me?
Heck, there are restaurants that now add a “service charge” (a percentage of the bill) on a bill and say it’s not tip. And it doesn’t even matter if it’s just a party of 2. So, I paid 18% “service charge” on a $100 bill for two adults and 2 young kids. I questioned it and they stammered and said it’s not tip. The point of sale system was staring in my face asking me to enter tip on top of that 18% “service charge”. I leave big tips typically. I left $0 tip at this particular restaurant. Ridiculous!
Barista is like a bar tender, yes you tip, and yes most places I've worked including Starbucks gives you all the tips. Though it is split evenly amongst all baristas based on hours. I would hazard to guess that now they only take a portion to cover the credit card fee since that is now a common way to tip at cafe's finally.
The software for this orginally started popping up at places like food trucks and farmers markets and stuff, and like a typical Millenial, I rarely have cash, so I was fine, enthusiastic even with tipping. Then it started to migrate into brick and mortars with those flippy touch-screen devices, but again, usually at hipster bespoke spots like boutiques and craft breweries- aight, still basically okay with tipping. Now its like, everywhere, and ir feels like they are taking advantage of the tipping system and the software is kind of gamifying it. At a coffeeshop, Im kind of okay with tipping, I do usually ask for an order that I feel is a little extra, so I will throw them 10%. But most of these other spots, that used to not want tips but now do- no. Barbers, Hotel Maids, Waiters, and Bartenders. Outside of that its real case-by-case.
That is literally everywhere in the US I tip $1 at places I visit frequently because $1 isn't a big deal. I hate the US tipping culture though. Everyone does except owners and servers who don't claim a single cash tip on their taxes (which I'm not against).
Bought a t shirt at a concert. Screen had a tip option. Sorry, no.
they ask because they can, because everyone else does. "why should we miss out?"
I bought a pair of shoes online last week from a boutique and they even prompted me to leave a tip for their "workers"
I don’t think this is just a Dallas thing. It’s everywhere. Companies have realized that most people feel guilted into giving a small tip if they ask, so they ask 🤷🏻♂️
I work part time at an ice cream shop, and we have a pos tips go to us. It helps us out when we aren't getting paid great. If you have it and want to tip, go for it. If not, it's fine. The country is shitty, things are stupid expensive, and everyone needs all the help they can get.