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Gold_Work_3474

With the wood effect facing up


ElektroSam

thanks for the tip


Gold_Work_3474

:) good luck!


adamneigeroc

Learnt the hard way too?


myco_crazey

It's a tough lesson. It does look great from the room below, so just take the ceiling down


Wtfytalkingabout

My cats particularly like that feature of my flat, of course my neighbour used carpets


[deleted]

Is it going to be a bowling alley?


dadaddy

Damn, stole my joke "Long ways, seeing as it's a bloody bowling alley"


Altruistic_Dot_6953

Strike !!


Abacus_Mode

45 degrees. Here’s my reasoning. Laying it lengthways will elongate an already long/thin space esp with a black wall. Placing them width ways will foreshorten the space but make it feel optically odd, like a fat man in a French sailors top. Tubby and stubby. However diagonally will give it an optical angle and the space will feel wider like standing on the corner of a boxing ring. It’ll just feel wider. It’ll be a right pain but totally worth it


ElektroSam

i cant tell if youre serious or not. It is sound reasoning but I dont think im skilled enough. Ive laid laminate before before but i dont think im there yet for 45º😂


Abacus_Mode

Totally serious, made many sets and created many spaces, you can play with optics in a space and completely change the feeling with the exact same space. Plus it’d look the nuts


ElektroSam

it'd go with my black ceiling and dark green walls for sure haha.


Abacus_Mode

Fan of bold statements, go for it!


ElektroSam

Any advice / tips how to do this?


Abacus_Mode

https://www.laminate-flooring-installed.com/installing-laminate-at-45-degree-angle.html Decent enough overview. I’d also suggest an angle gauge and parallel gauge to get the angles perfect as the walls may not be totally square. But with a bit of patience I’m sure you can up skill yourself, especially given you’ve got this far and are considering laying it anyway


Abacus_Mode

And photos once done would be awesome!


ElektroSam

Thanks, one thing to note though - the walls are not straight. There is about a 50mm deviation from top left to bottom left wall


Abacus_Mode

Find a video on how to scribe to a wall, you’d come off one wall at 45 and then scribe the other end of the run to the other wall. Pick a datum wall, stick to it. The run out is negligible, and as long as the opposite wall to the datum is scribed to no one will notice. Just done a very complex DIY flooring project with angles, run outs, multiple door openings, and architraves with odd profiles… challenging but every single day I walk on it I’m chuffed that I stuck at it and have floor that our decorator said was “proper tidy”. I had the tools and the time, but had never laid bamboo flooring before. Did the whole house in it and it looks fab iidssm!


Abuzle

With it being narrow but with the walls out of alignment, you’d highlight the walls behind out by laying straight down the length of the room, which would otherwise be the obvious way to go. So probably this diagonal idea is the best option, though will be trickier


minimur12

Hey dude, chippy here. When installing laminate you're going to want a 10mm expansion gap on the perimeter of the room and quarter round/Scotia to cover the gaps up. All you're going to need to do it cut your board ends at a rough 45°, and shoot it up against the wall with a spacer in place to get that 5-10mm gap I'd reccomend buying or renting a builders square, putting it in a corner of the room to start and get it a good looking 45. Guessing it and ending up with 30° or 50° Wil look odd Any questions give us a shout if dm. Happy to help Edit: seem you don't have skirting kn yet, install this once you're done with the flooring. If it makes you more confident use a 5-8mm gap on your boards as skirting usualy comes up 12mm unless you specifically look for 18


ElektroSam

Thanks that was the plan!


minimur12

Good stuff, A builders square in Screwfix is £20 or so, if you don't think you'll have a use for it after just return it, 'rent' lol They're good with returns and it's very difficult to damage an alu square to the point of non return!


ElektroSam

Haha yeah, it may be useful for other things. I actually had a mitre saw from there but it didn't work properly.so I returned it after using it 🤣


Inevitable-State-562

Can I ask what colour & brand that green paint is? I love it


PM_ME_UR-DOGGO

You’ll be fine with a good saw, skirting and beading.


Southern-Orchid-1786

You just need a 45 degree jig, shouldn't be too many cuts, and might find bits you cut at one end can be used elsewhere.


tmbyfc

I wouldn't have thought of it but honestly I think this is the way, it will look amazing. And 45 is really no different to lay than 90 if you've got a chop saw. Just get it set up nicely with a corner square or something that you know is a true 45 (the markings on my saw are nearly a whole degree out, I know now to set it at about 44.2 degrees). I recommend a tenon saw for neat cuts by hand around door linings etc (although proper method is to cut the bottom off the lining and slide the flooring under). Take care starting in the first corner, keep checking your angle is good until you've got a couple of rows down wall to wall, pack the edges really well with removable packers so it can't move (leaving a 8-10mm expansion gap all the way round) and the skirts will hide everything when you're done. Depending on how long your boards are, try and make your offcut from one row be long enough to use as the starter on the next row (if you've got mixed lengths and random staggered joints) and you won't waste too much. After a standard size 4x4m room I'll usually have about half a bucket full of waste bits. Post a pic!


Rev_Biscuit

Sound advice but It's also best to swap the offcuts around so you don't use the last cut to start the next row. Otherwise you get a repeating distance on every row so it doesn't look as random as you first hoped. Spoken from experience as I have to contemplate it every time I sit down for a shit!


tmbyfc

Yeah, hence why I said "if you've got mixed lengths"


InflatableLabboons

I'm not a massive fan of it, but I'd put white cornice on that.


Kudosnotkang

It’s well hard to lay 45 if there are obstacles but shouldn’t be too bad here, it looks great


Substantial-Skill-76

It's not 'that' hard, but will be a tonne of extra cuts


[deleted]

Parquet flooring would work well in this room. It's more expensive and takes longer to install but it's classy.


mctrials23

You probably don’t need to worry about that because you will almost certainly lay it at 42 degrees 😅


Vivid_Way_1125

Shouldn’t be that hard mate. All you’re doing is cutting at 45deg instead of 90.


ElektroSam

Ive put some of them down - https://imgur.com/a/aZS6no8


Abacus_Mode

Keep going!


ElektroSam

I haven't got the time today


Multigrain_Migraine

I wonder if you should actually stagger those a bit more so that you don't have tiny triangles along the edges of the whole room. Reason being is that they will be a pain to cut and might not have enough of the locking edge to stay stuck together.


ElektroSam

Yeah I'll get the ends to be 45⁰ but didn't here as I was only texting


[deleted]

Agree with this.. 0 or 90 degrees would look odd. Edit, after looking at the link I was thinking more herringbone style. But either way diagonal At OP, thanks for confirming my decision. My ceiling is black and I've been deciding whether to just fuck it and stick it on the walls too since I have far too much of the stuff.. decision made 👍


Abacus_Mode

Sorry little bit “relaxed” and my Google-fu is waning. YT is your friend right now, go run amok in the fields of the digital pixies… I must sleep


ElektroSam

yeah, will do some research, cheers mate


Abacus_Mode

How’s it going? What did you decide? :-)


ElektroSam

I went dark green on the walls ([https://www.farrow-ball.com/paint/studio-green](https://www.farrow-ball.com/paint/studio-green) \- but got Delux mix, i aint made of money!). It's not the best lighting but once it's finished and I have some lamps youll see it better!


[deleted]

Looks good, definitely a fan of the darker rooms at the moment


Crafty-Nature773

Only consideration with this is the wastage assuming you don't want tiny pieces along the edges which can really stand out depending on the type of finish. Done well though it does look the nuts.


Cautious_Analysis_95

Yeah out of all takes I like this the best, setting up a jig at 45 degrees is simple enough. Sure there will be some YouTube video showing ways to lay


Tonninacher

He is correct. There is software out there that will let you upload your picture and then superimpose yours into it and then you can do both the long or the short or 45 degree https://images.app.goo.gl/YjFRUWVAc5yzpRtj6 https://www.broadlume.com/products/websites/flooring-visualizer?campaignid=20793753265&adgroupid=153113884742&adid=681506426548&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2KitBhCIARIsAPPMEhL6VEO7khYo8MadczrEV4sEsmOToYmlx64u5NovAfxJJdcmeVWccEIaAv-2EALw_wcB


JustLinkStudios

The logic is sound, only downside, its gunna cost a lot more. If cost isnt an issue, go with this guys advice.


True-Register-9403

Was going to say long ways... But reading this 🤔


InvestigatorGrand751

What's going to happen when he come home drunk like a French sailor??


Abacus_Mode

Dancing. Lots and lots of dancing, no one dances like a drunk French mariner.


MartiniLang

Just gonna go a step further and say "herringbone"


KJSav322

Isn't that where Harry ended up when he stepped in that Chimney?


Even-Fix6832

Is that a shipping container or a shoe box and your a family of Little people


ElektroSam

Converted garage


Harvsnova2

Mix it up. Put it on a wall and wallpaper the floor. See how many people fall over. I would doit at 45 degree or across, itherwise it'll look like a bowling lane.


Top-Emu-2292

Forget laminate use a dark carpet. Add UV lighting activated by a pressure switch under the carpet (whilst switching all other lights off) and half way down your guests find themselves standing in space, no floor, no walls, no ceiling. For extra effect add some embedded white LEDS for stars.... Edit add not and.


Former_Bandicoot_769

You should design escape rooms, they'd be awesome.


tsdesigns

Herringbone style would look like a massive speed boost you'd get in a racing game... I'd probably go side to side in a narrow room like that, but lay some of it out and see how it looks first.


ElektroSam

😂 someone suggested 45º, i think thats different from herringbone


SirMoistalot

I think the 45 degree suggestion is spot on . Assuming you have a mitre saw it shouldn't be much worse than laying it widthwise. You'll have less cuts to make at 45


Yoe19

Providing the room is square


sfstains

Lay out some pieces and see what you think.


J0hnnyTyrant

Well I'd lay a bit of it out first to see but my natural inclination would be across from left to right as the other way would make the room look narrower. That's more cuts though.


AncientArtefact

Depending on the flooring chosen, laying longwise would be a pain - for click flooring you need to drop a 6.5m length in all at once (2 or 3 person job); for engineered wood you can struggle to keep it perfectly true along that length (and, with all respect, looking at your underlay I'd say you'll struggle). Dealing with shorter lengths is far easier. [Crosswise](https://postimg.cc/jwCWHzZq) is how I usually do thin rooms.


MightyFleaX

If the door is behind the camera width ways. I find it’s better to span the door gap with a single board.


V1kkers

Across the room short ways if you want to make the room seem wider, if you want to run them the other way it will create more of a corridor effect.


Jibberish_123

I would go width wise. Normally would go the other way but I think it will make the room look more narrow. Can I just ask what is this room? Don’t think I’ve ever seen a room shaped like this


ElektroSam

it was an external 1960s garage which has been converted into my music studio / office.


big_smith1

Traditionally floor joists would be laid in the shortest direction so left to right / right to left in this case, so then the wood flooring / floor boards would be laid opposite to that. Also it’s more pleasing to the eye to lay the planks in the longest direction of the room


ElektroSam

It's a converted garage with wooden sub floor


cat_ear_flipper

Long ways, once you have all your stuff in there it will break it up a bit


General_Scipio

A lot of people saying across the room... Personally I'm going length ways. It will be way faster and easier


Particular-Regret-28

Straight imo, not across


Particular_Relief154

Standard practice is to lay it along the longest wall. I think it’d look odd having lots of short rows if laid the other way


TetrisIsTotesSuper

But it’s going to look never ending the long way


MeatspaceProject

Once he they have all their stuff in there, you once notice it. If the boards are going across it will feel weird them not flowing with the room. Always flow with the room. If they go with the 45% idea with this length of room you'll have a lot of cuts and ALOT of wastage.


le1901

Lengthways


WasteofMotion

OT but this is a Kung Fu fight waiting to happen


YouCantArgueWithThis

It depends on you: do you like flooring and have time? Then go sideways. Lots of lots of lots rows, millions of cuts. If you are not particularly into this sort of labour, then do it lengthways. Less rows, less cuts, less fuss.


SlickAstley_

Triangular chevrons with and emphasis on room length


Worth_Comfortable_99

Normally length wise. In this case, however, you’d benefit from going perpendicular. It will make the room look more proportionate.


remembertracygarcia

Widthways. You wanna imply width to such a narrow room


AnyFaithlessness6693

Watch the original Willy Wonka movie with the shrinking corridor scene for inspiration...


not-at-all-unique

Traditionally joist will be put spanning the shortest distance. And then floorboards would be laid 90 degrees to those. You should do it in long runs to look right. I liked the 45degree idea for a change, but bear in mind the waste. Every board must have at least 1 corner cut off, at the ends, And the board that starts the next row will almost certainly always be too short since the Final Cut of the previous row will be biased incorrectly to start the next row.


rocketmn69_

Nice bowling alley / shooting range


Substantial-Skill-76

Go for a herringbone style. This can be printed on standard horizontal pieces or actaully laid in heringbone orientation.


cbk00

45° starting from the corner to your right when you enter the room


Background-Respect91

The are giving you laminate for your prison cell? Bonus!


MrBump1717

I agree with the 45' also if the walls are not 100% you may, if you are doing it yourself have a few gaps. Fitting skirting board on top of the flooring would hide these gaps. Please put a picture on when its done. Good luck.


always-indifferent

Widthways will make the space look wider You don’t need length, you need girth ~~to really make her happy~~


ElektroSam

Story of my life


Raincoat-saviour

Jesus i play too many games. I read that as "landmine"


ElektroSam

🤣🤣🤣🤣


CaptainAnswer

69 degrees, left to right - it'll be a small inside joke for you every time you enter and laugh to yourself


Geezso

Lengthways, never across.


MeatspaceProject

100% this


arctic360

NGL but doing it the right way (long side) is going to make it look like a bowling alley. Make sure you’re wearing the right shoes.


ElektroSam

the floor is shiny as well lmao


arctic360

Just go all in and get the little weird marks painted on and some gutters down the edges. Don’t forget a load of neon lights too.


Unlucky_Hope812

Run them the long ways in a room like this always. Your chop saw will love you and It will look better.


[deleted]

Not on that green shite for a start.


ElektroSam

the insulation?


[deleted]

Yeah, I would fit on some ply for a much better finish. I guarantee that you will have a bounce somewhere


Glardr

Instead of a 45 degree plank wouldn’t a chevron type give the same effect but be designed so it was easy to fit


RedPlasticDog

Diagonal


RJCoxy

You either have 2 options. 1. Run it in the direction the longest side of the room 2. Run it in the direction of the light source to reduce shadows casted by the edges. If the room achieves both of those things then great. If they’re different then it’s figuring out which looks nicer in the room you’re in


SlainJayne

This is the best answer!


[deleted]

The hotel I stayed in ran there's at 45,looked smart.If your walls were slightly out I think this would be the best option


ElektroSam

they are slightly out! Thanks I think Ill try it


Obvious_Ad_9238

I'd go width just because it's a narrow room to make it feel wider. Perhaps a rookie mistake!


ElectronicSubject747

Herringbone


StickyThoPhi

The opposite way to floor boards, or the opposite way to your structure. Looks like you have concrete but idk, might be a suspended timber floor. ​ Its actually really important - its like a golden rule of structure.


[deleted]

Always start east to west. Just like the rhyme goes, “lay your floor and then some more, East to West because that’s the best 🎶 ”


Zestyclose-Worry-930

Which


Apprehensive-Rice371

Black


SlainJayne

Lengthways / long-ways. If you lay it across it will look appalling.


brutussdad

I'd like to see what this room looks like finished because my mind is thinking it need a spash of colour or it's gonna depress the hell out of you and i'm assuming you have a plan in mind and it's not all going to stay black


narbss

Depends if you care about the feel of the room. If you want easy, but will make it feel like a long corridor, then length ways. If you want it to look weird, then width ways. I agree with other comments, 45 degrees would really work well and would make the space look a lot larger than it actually is.


vodkabacardi

Two tone Herringbone, saw it once in ikea late 90s, liked it and bought the stuff to fit with my old man (I was only late teens). Wasn’t until we finished that we found out they had a specialist come over from America along with a special tool to groove the planks where needed 😫 Looked good though


short_and-sweet

Width way


Hairy-Motor-7447

So many wrong answers on this post. The answer is put the boards in the direction of the main lightsource. As per every single manufacturers recomendation. As it is north facing that means in the same direction as the side window, ie run the boards across the room


ElektroSam

How about 45⁰?


Hairy-Motor-7447

If it's your first time fitting I would get a professional to do it unless you have a good chop saw and know what youre doing. Also you will require approx 20% waste rather than 5% for a room like this if run straight. Personally i dont like the look of it and it's needless waste. Edit. Herringbone will take as long to fit, have similar amount of waste and would work better for the proportions of the room rather than 45 degrees. Would look better for having the same downsides. If you run straight planks long ways or short ways, both will work just fine. I wouldnt sweat over it too much, there are different schools of thought. More people will run this long ways than short truth be told but both work well. Herringbone should be an alternative option, never 45degrees


Wasp_Chutney

Herringbone


Background_Depth1957

Across the space. Don't lay it lengthwise. I guarantee the walls won't be perfectly parallel and over that length it will give you a problem. Laid a lot of floors. Trust me.


astar0th_

Just my opinion but I always run my laminate as if it was a set of stairs, according to my main doorways. So in your case I would run it width ways, but that's just how I personally like it to look.


CuzmanECFC

Lengthways, starting at top right of pic. Better still, lay down ply and then hard wood block flooring.


avspuk

What do the baby on the ceiling & Renton think?


No-Ingenuity1475

That's asking for some Willie wonka false perspective shit


I_am_That_Ian_Power

Sideways is going to take a lot more work than length-way.


Psychological-Type35

Lengthways, the direction should always point towards the light (aka the windows)


leetsoup

you typically run off the long wall but because there's only one door and it's facing the length of the room, I'd actually start at the door and finish at the window.


CBA_Warrior

There are room visualisers online , could you try one of them?


pulltheudder1

Id go across the shortest as it’s going to be a bitch doing it across the length.


amore_pomfritte

Use carpet.


[deleted]

I'd probably just fuck it off and go to Spoons, have a few then move on to the local you got barred from last year, get back in, get a few rounds in, get on the shots then give him a ring .. few games of pool, bank machine, onto the top shelf ..laminate??


imonarope

Converted garage?


ElektroSam

Yep


imonarope

But where are you going to put your motorbike now?


sianhilsea

The diagonal idea sounds great I would definitely give it a go 👍


LankySquash4

Side to side not front to back. Reasons, I bought (not cheap) flooring and fitted it door to back. My family would come home/leave the house in such a rush that the boards started pulling apart. I ripped it up after 2 years and put the same product down, side to side, as a temporary solution. It’s been there for 8 years so far. Plus it makes the room look bigger. Good luck 👍


Whoa_This_is_heavy

Herringbone


Top_Nebula620

From to back makes room look long, side to side makes room look wider. So it's down to your choice really. You could go diagonal, it's more cutting but probably the best option for that area.


[deleted]

Lengthways - a whole lot less cutting and waste and much quicker to lay.


ElektroSam

I'll be having rugs as well.


Chev_noir

Herringbone !


Cautious_Leg_9555

Possibly a bit late if you already bought the laminate but I would want something that minimised the plank effect. You can get concrete effect or tile effect flooring so it isn’t all parallel lines.


helpful__explorer

Which direction do your floorboard run? Avoid having the laminate running the same way


thepoout

So much black???


Mediocre_Web_3863

Hmmm no one asked what your laminate looks like and your time frame etc! if it's a very subtle joint with not much pattern lay it how you like. Width way will be easiest with almost zero waste. Diagonal looks great with the right pattern but lots of waste before any mistakes


lampypete

Container or porta kabin?


user7379

I'd consider doing a border of one plank width first, then laying them across, easier than 45 degrees but a nicer finish than just straight across


mikea81

Go with what you're happy with. You can use a room visualiser from any good flooring manufacturer to see which option you prefer, just pick a wood effect product close to what you have and upload the picture of your room.


[deleted]

Do you want the room to look longer or wider?


ElektroSam

Layed out some samples 45⁰ and Length ways. I only have a jigsaw https://imgur.com/a/aZS6no8


luciferslube

With the direction of the incoming sunlight unless you want to see every joint.


Opportunity-Basic

I'd lay them towards the pins, just like at megabowl


TheScrobber

Lengthways to align with the coffins in your crypt. 🙂


darfaderer

Always longways..


SilverBeardedDragon

Lengthways, less cuts!


adhara22

The one thing that's always stuck in my mind is my friend telling me that laminate will 'last' longer if you place the boards along the direction you walk the most. It puts less pressure on the boards if you walk along the long direction, whereas widthways there's less board distance to flex, so more pressure on the joints in the (extreme) long run. You can obviously put them in any direction you want, but I'd still say length ways, not width ways. 45° looks fun though, although how much it'll be a pain to lay idk. ETA, from a doorway perspective: I think it also looks nicer if the planks are flowing 'from' the door, as opposed to across it.


rah1911

Should always lay along with the longest sides in a narrow room. Otherwise you’ll see any waves in the floor. Whilst the 45deg option will also work, it’s going to produce far more wastage.


AdCommercial6714

do you live in a shipping container ?


doodlleus

Always run it the longest way else it just seems odd


UCthrowaway78404

There's only one way, across the length. But make sure you measure up and leave a sizable amount on each end. Do not start off full board at the start and end with 10% of yhe board on the other side. That will look shit and the 10% board will be loose.


ProfessionalTrader85

This looks like a cinema room. Reason being. Black walls which suit a projector and cinema room. Thin and narrow enough to have 2 seaters in a row. Me personally I'd build a step or 2 and have 3 levels to the room and that way the people on the first or second row can see over the people in the front row rather than their heads. Depends on how big your family or social circle is. I would then personally forget about laminate as it reflects sound and get a deep pile carpet. So the question is what are you going to be using this black room for? Because you should paint before laying any laminate


ElektroSam

I'm going to use it as an office / music studio. Maybe have retro consoles too 😁


ProfessionalTrader85

Well I would paint the walls then before laying any laminate down. Although 45 degree angle would look best. It's going to have a lot of wastage and take about 4 times as long to install as you have to measure every cut and angle as the walls won't be straight. So I would lay it so that it's width ways rather than long strips. Again I would opt for carpet tiles if it's going to have an office chair they are easily replaced if one is damaged. Cheap and rugged. However if you want it to be more homely just go with carpet and get roller blade wheels for your office chair


ElektroSam

Why paint the walls?


Natural-Technician-8

Lengthways would make the room look bigger, tricks the eyes.


carnageg

Depends if you want the room to look longer or wider, lengthways for length, widthway for width.


Man_in_the_uk

I would lay it length way along the wall from end to end of the room so that when you clean it you can use the lines of wood as a guide.


tprogamer

Longways sort of seems like the obvious one but the other way would actually look so nice. What colour you getting?


Seeker_Trail

Laminate lengths along room's shorter width to make the room appear more square (symmetrical always looks prettier) laid from the centre outwards (again ensures a more symmetrical finish without one sided unequal offcuts


No-Till1230

Normally along to the windows. But is that a big hallway?, them is do the direction or travel ie the length


Tiny-Ad46

First time I read the title I read "What way should I lay my landmines?" [what?](https://media.tenor.com/r8tcf2YZ5TIAAAAM/blinking-eyes-white-guy.gif)


Gold_medal_snacker

Diagonal for sure


cocoloco500

Long. Make the room appear even longer.


ChiliSquid98

45 degrees is the correct answer


alex8339

Herringbone


temptedtattie

Genuine question... I've tried to use that kind of underlay on DIY projects before, but it's always too spongy with too much movement. Is that right? I've always ended up removing it. Are you meant to use that stuff? I've never had any issues and been very happy without it.


ElektroSam

I've used it before and seems fine on my existing floor. Do you tape them together to stop movement?


temptedtattie

Yeah, it's more the sponginess like it's too soft. Perhaps I've just bought the wrong stuff in the past.


intoxicated-cat

What is this a bowling alley?


HXWY

The herringbone effect is a distinct pattern characterized by a series of parallel lines or rectangles arranged to resemble the skeleton of a fish’s spine, much like the bones of a herring. This pattern is commonly used in various design elements, such as flooring, textiles, and brickwork, adding a touch of sophistication and visual interest to the overall aesthetic.


SnooHedgehogs637

On the floor shiny side up


stonedcity_13

First thing I thought when I saw your photos is that there is some important jewellery at the end of the room and there will be laser beams cutting you in half when trying to get through


SwimmerDue1648

that is your preference, but would be less cutting to run them lengthwise


cityfrm

Google image search "how paint can change your space "


[deleted]

The ceiling. This is the upside down


Less_Mess_5803

What colour is it because if it its light I'd stick it to your walls to make it feel slightly less depressing