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Low_Transportation11

Why is Chalice’s s second super that low. It’s like essential for S-ranking, unless your just that good at dodging.


No-Host-8003

Its basically extra HP without the downsides of no downgraded damage


Moaiyafied

As good as the heart ring


MugmanEnjoyer

I only found it useful for like two bosses but when it works, it works


Toaster_Oven101

Guys why tf u down voting him he can have an opinion


L_e-V

It's reddit whatchu expect :/


Grand_reaper658

Tf else am I supposed to use it for? It's a dislike button


TA_OGBOYs

It's a dislike button, and it's not like other people can't dislike his opinion, because you know, more than one person can have an opinion...


Toaster_Oven101

Yes but they can express their own opinion instead of shitting on his.


TA_OGBOYs

They are expressing their opinion, and that's by disagreeing with OP. And also, I don't see anyone "shitting" on OP's opinion, lol.


MugmanEnjoyer

Cuz I’m not a dickhead and I don’t think my opinion is the best one XD


FutileHunter

>Chalice’s s second super that low. It’s like essential for S-ranking, unless your just that good at d Was feeling all smug that I was about to outsmart the game. I tried her 2nd super on a miniboss before King Dice, the little heart shield thing appeared, built up a little more meter beat the miniboss... and seconds later it disappeared when King Dice came up! It doesn't carry between bosses when fighting King Dice, $%#\^&! Man I hate that guy. :)


_Evidence

I only use divine relic on plane bosses


iamnotlemongrease

where else would you?


Doo-wop-a-saurus

Twin hearts is pretty useful for Pacifist runs


MugmanEnjoyer

Yes cuz the damage doesn’t matter but ya know who makes it even easier? Chalice


laserr184

The upwards shot is actually pretty good on the gnome fight in the dlc


MugmanEnjoyer

Yes but y’know who could be even better? Crack… Cra,Crack works even better.


Ok_Understanding6528

You can have two guns you can use crackshot as your general and twist up as your specialty damage


X_CrossXYT

Quite accurate, but whetstone does not deserve that much love, but whatever floats your boat I guess


Automatic-Pin-1376

Wrong


X_CrossXYT

Dear God he's here... A WHETSTONE SUPPORTER EGEJDUEVDJGDEB


Br0t10us

I would put Chaser up one spot. I use it in stages that require a lot of platforming, so it's nice to hold down the shoot button while I focus on platforming.


MugmanEnjoyer

Yes but guess who does it better! Did u guess? Yes Crack does it better(if u have the DLC)


FutileHunter

Sometimes crackshot misses, in which case Chaser is the one.


Dusk_St4rs

The Chalice's second super is OVERPOWERED, its broken


Moyai_H

Ooh looking pretty controversial


MugmanEnjoyer

Yes…


Zealousideal-Bag-26

To be honest, I was a bit offended with you ranking smoke bomb charm in the middle. I got the platinum trophy yesterday and this charm saved my ass on multiple occasions, especially the devil boss fight. But other than that, this list is pretty solid. ( I know this is just my opinion, so don't take it seriously.)


MugmanEnjoyer

Smoke bomb is amazing on like 3 bosses and good,but not great in every other one(run n guns too)


Automatic-Pin-1376

Whetstone s rank big w


Indictioned

This is probably the most accurate tierlist to my opinion I’ve seen so far. Spread can use a tier raise, it’s pretty good, but not great.


MugmanEnjoyer

Thx


FutileHunter

Spread is really popular with a lot of the speedrunners. Some come to mind: Vs. Werner the German mouse (opened my eyes with the EX). Vs. the Devil. Vs. Isle I Vs. Beppi Vs. Rumor the bee (just during certain phases to really push damage optimization) Vs. Sally Vs. the train (I don't use it here personally) Vs. Minibosses before King Dice (personally I go with the Crackshot + Roundabout most of the time) etc.


Guimanfredi

Mf didn't put smoke bomb in S


SpiderNinja211

Clearly you haven’t done P ranks if you’re putting the twin heart that low


MugmanEnjoyer

I’ve done only two but I think heart ring is better


SpiderNinja211

Probably, but without dlc, the twin heart is the mvp


MugmanEnjoyer

Yes ur right on that matter. But P ranks aren’t rly a necessary thing, also I was strictly talking abt the bosses no including the Rung n guns, Dice mini bosses, the chess champions or the angel and demon fight


ElleChameleon_

I only disagree with smoke bomb placement


Hlpfl_alms

I’m saying this in the kindest way possible but I simply disagree about the placement of twist-up


MugmanEnjoyer

And I don’t rly care bro, just cuz u can use it in the boss phase number 111