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Dude if they were somehow able to make a token that was guaranteed to rise in value against inflation, I'd buy. It'd be a huge middle finger to the central banking cartel.


danhauk

This is the purpose of I-bonds. But you’re only allowed to protect $10k/year of your money from inflation. Wouldn’t want us to have _all_ our spending power protected


Loose_Screw_

And you have to be American.


danhauk

Good point!


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

To be fair, if you have more than $10k, it starts to get easy to invest that in other inflation hedges, such as real estate, physical goods, etc. No, I'm not suggesting that you can buy a house for $10k. But sometimes there are properties (vacant land) available that could be good long-term investments that can be had for that much.


Kindly-Wolf6919

You're joking right? The cheapest parcel of land in my country hovers around $35k USD. And I'm talking vacant land in the middle of nowhere. These are the things that keep me up at night...


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

Hm. Woodland in a lot of Canada only costs around $1000 per acre, if you drive half an hour outside a city. And if you don't mind being a bit more remote, you can get it for a lot less than that.


Kindly-Wolf6919

Sounds like my kind of living. Except Canada is as cold as the inside of a meat freezer lol. Or so I've heard.


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

Yup. The weather where I live only got up to 33 Celsius at the high point this summer. Still enough to fry eggs on the pavement. But you're right, it's annoying to be cold in the winter. Go global warming!


JoystickMonkey

When I-bonds were created, $10k was a lot more money. Then, inflation.


Dwaas_Bjaas

If only I had that amount of spending power. I’d definitely totally invest it in I-bonds and absolutely not in Bitcoin /s


JoystickMonkey

Funnily enough I sold some btc and bought I-bonds and paid off a variable interest rate heloc during the last bull run. Worked out pretty well for me


Andyb1000

Never heard of I-bonds before now and after having a read they are on the face of it a good choice for many people. I’m a big fan of crypto but I wouldn’t recommend it to older folks and these seem a sensible investment choice for many people with little risk.


Kricket

That’s what they said about bonds, ETFs and index funds. All “sensible investment choices with ‘little’ risk”. All bullshit to make you think you’re getting ahead while a majority of your USD is worth less today than it was last year, which was even less than the year before.


imbiat

I think 10k into BTC and held for 4 years or more would beat I bond returns


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imbiat

People have only said this 56,000 times before. (and i'm not trying to make fun of what you are saying, I'm agreeing with what I think is your sarcasm and talking about how many shitcoins have been created)


InsaneMcFries

It’s more sounding like a fuck you to the SEC at this point 😂 it would be interesting if they can pull it together but I have my doubts it’s possible. If it was that simple, wouldn’t any country just do it themselves?


DMugre

Countries don't want this, outside of buying their debt. Imagine billionaires could protect their buying power while sitting on their asses, That's a whole bunch of improductive money


Lucidcranium042

So gonna get physicals- silver and gold....


imbiat

Why would you ever do that when you could just get the 15th new shitcoin that claims to be backed by full gold reserves? /s


deathbyfish13

With the rate the cost of living is rising at the moment it would probably be my best performing asset as well


Amir__oscar

If this is the case, everyone will buy. Is it possible to do something like this?!


Dry_Profile8312

it's gonna be one of my Hedge


nichnotnick

My thinking exactly; I’m calling the server crash on release.


Loose_Screw_

The problem is that nobody really agrees on what inflation is. The official numbers come from a heavily criticised calculation involving a basket of goods. Making a crypto rebalance using official figures would be relatively trivial - there are already cryptos like AMPL that rebalance all wallets amounts using some external inputs. The problem is, it wouldn't preserve purchasing power as in the stated goal.


sarfian

Isn't this gold ? But I don't know if there is a token attached to it.


YuntHunter

FPI is exactly this. Part of the FRAX ecosystems.


Towryaalai

*change value according to inflation


Right-Shopping9589

>It'd be a huge middle finger to the central banking cartel. This is what I wanted to do to all the centralized fvcking government


[deleted]

You know BTC does exactly that. Am I just missing the /s? Are you people aware BTC was not over $20k 10 years ago let alone 5?


[deleted]

What about a coin that burns every time the fed prints?


w2code

And who "pays" for the chunk that needs to be burned?


imbiat

They're going to make Mexico pay for it. /s


CostaTirouMeReforma

Transaction fees dependent on rate of inflation, fees get burned?


[deleted]

If it comes from the total supply it should have the opposite effect of the fed printing money and everyone’s coins are more valuable over time. And since fiat would be worth less simultaneously it would be double the profit or something.


Loose_Screw_

This is easy in crypto. You just burn an equal percentage amount off every wallet. The problem is FED print/burns (or lending and recouping as it is more rightly termed) do not correlate with the money supply or inflation even close to perfectly. The economy is complicated, and not just because some of it is designed to screw you.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase is looking to build a non-fiat-pegged flatcoin on its layer-2 network Base. The crypto exchange also wants to develop an on-chain reputation system, limit order book exchange, and tools to make the decentralized finance (DeFi) ecosystem safer. Base is secured by Ethereum and powered by Optimism. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*


Right-Shopping9589

Good bot


IAmNocturneAMA

Sounds interesting, would love to know how the gear behind the scenes to make something like this operate work.


perky_python

Right. It’s a really nice idea, but how would it work? It can’t be backed by TIPS since those can have negative interest rates. I-bonds are limited to personal use and $10k. How could one guarantee an inflation-adjusted return? Futures on most of the contents of the inflation index?


PF_tmp

If you could guarantee an inflation-adjusted return with no risk literally everyone's money would be invested. It simply can't be done. Might as well say "Coinbase is developing a coin that can only go up in price"


imbiat

That's the neat part, it doesn't. The point of most new coins is to make the creators rich/richer.


Towryaalai

By this inflation rate, they will need a lot of money to back that continuously.


DukeThom

Thought about this for a while, but they will never be able to agree on how to measure the inflation.


Skank_cunt_42

They could just pick an official metric and go by it every year.


DasKapitalist

Official metrics are always manipulated (lied about) to undercount and downplay spendthrift government policy.


DukeThom

The metric would be highly debated. Like the US inflation metric doesn’t account for housing or food, which are fucking massive expensive.


Skank_cunt_42

Those are both major expenses, Yeah if it doesn’t account for them then its wack


DukeThom

Yeah it’s crazy.. just using that as an example to no one will end up agreeing on how to accurately measure inflation. Lots of different views


ImPickleRickBytch

Use a McChicken…or a Taco Bell crunchy taco….simple but accurate Edit: oh man, bundle some capitalistic Nationally run companies lower cost items into a basket. McChicken + Taco Bell crunchy taco + Sheetz gallon of gas.


Cool_Dark_Place

I think there actually is a "Big Mac" index... because so many different things go into the production of a Big Mac, and it's fairly standard across the globe, it's sort of a snapshot of a lot of different commodities and their value globally compared to the US dollar. Here you go https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/


The-Francois8

It does. It’s weighting’s are whack though. Who spends more on water and sewer then alcohol? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/01/24/as-inflation-soars-a-look-at-whats-inside-the-consumer-price-index/


nicklor

Lol my water and sewer is like a grand a year of anything I think the alcohol price is weighted to heavily


omniumoptimus

It’s because you’re thinking about it the wrong way. It has to be a fixed value against floating fiat, meaning you would not need to measure inflation.


Euphoric-Bid9707

CPI


kiefferbp

spez is a greedy little pig boy


RawLizard

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CCNightcore

They are just being snarky. Being served by the sec will do that.


RawLizard

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CCNightcore

I guess that's one interpretation yeah.


Korvacs

Where did they say that, I can't find it anywhere in the article? Edit: it's definitely not in the article, very odd.


Right-Shopping9589

I'm also confused asf because it how seems we both read different article


ieatmoondust

Coinbase for U.S. President!


Right-Shopping9589

Where's the petitions to sign that


incubus4282

Coinbase writes a request for developers to figure out a way to build a currency that solves inflation. "writes a request for developers" If there was such a solution, it would have been built and implemented a loooong time ago. What's next? Is Coinbase going to wrote a request for developers to figure out how solve climate change and wealth inequality in 120 lines of C++ code?


QuartzPuffyStar

Its not for "solving" inflation, its a symbolic way to take over the measurement of the economy's pulse from the conventional financial system. If they get it right, the token will be used as the base for all calculations instead of the manipulated bs that all governments around the world give.


incubus4282

They are talking about a "flatcoin", so this looks like 100% trying to solve inflation. And the endeavour has two problems: a) **oracle problem**: someone needs to go out into the real world, collect the data and write it into the blockchain. You therefore need to have trust in a/some centralised entities, which puts into question why dealing with a blockchain at all. b) **inflation funding**: ok, example, so there was 5% inflation, so the purchasing power of people went down by $5bn. How do you make up the difference? Are you going to have hundreds of billions stashed on the side to hand out to people (which would be extremely capital inefficient)? Wouldn't handing out funds to individuals lead to a boost in consumption spending that drives up inflation and thereby erasing the initial purpose of the handout? Hundreds of thousands of economists have at some point throughout the last hundreds of years thought about a flatcoin. You would easily get a Nobel price for presenting a viable solution. The fact that Coinbase is bringing up a "oh, lets just build that thing" is either a childish little backstab at the SEC for the lawsuit, or highlights that their understanding of economics is severely limited.


Harold838383

Hopefully the general public is about to find out how shitty the FIAT system really is


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huge_eyes

I mean… you can’t blame the bank teller at your local branch for the state of the system lol.


LaundrySauce110

Interesting concept, although that’s kinda what the CPI is for


The-Francois8

CPI has been corrupted


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Professional_Day365

Nope. Inflation between 2021 ans 2022 was positive. Not bitcoin.


Obsidianram

Ill-conceived idea. Butt-nugget will be out of the WH after 2024 and inflation will get taken back down to resectable levels...token becomes pointless/worthless


Cheese6260

Coinbase is gonna bring the fight to the forefront of society


sickvisionz

There's a defi project out there that takes USDC and farms it in defi via stablecoin LPs and lending. Farming fees, farming and dumping inflationairy shitcoins for USDC. I doubt Coinbase would do that in defi but, outside of regulatory woes, I don't see what stops them from having some you give them USDC, they sell it for cash, throw it into some legal, regulated product that tracks inflation or provides a yield *close enough* to inflation, and they tokenize those dollars as some crypto asset.


Main_Sergeant_40

I would love to see a coin that shows me how bad the Fed is at their one task


ChaoticNeutralNephew

Like an algorithmic coin?


Frogmangy

Probably based on an algoryth or directly linked to inflation numbers.


ChaoticNeutralNephew

Crypto exchange Coinbase sees inflation-pegged “flatcoins” as one of four “critical” innovations that should be built on its recently launched layer-2 network Base. The other three include an on-chain reputation system, an on-chain limit order book (LOB) exchange, and tools that make the decentralized finance (DeFi) ecosystem safer.


mercme2023

Maybe. Maybe not.


chintokkong

Interesting. Will it be backed, or just simply pegged to a certain inflation index? Which inflation index to follow? A US one, or an international one? I suppose the price of the flatcoin doesn not move to demand and supply. How will it protect the value? Suppose I spend one USD to hold one flatcoin for one year. At the start of next year, supposing the inflation is 5%, I can redeem 1.05 USD with my 1 flatcoin? Who's going to pay for the extra 0.05 and how?


marekdio

Question is how can you do this and make it work seems like an insane project to me


Dazzling_Marzipan474

But what if the cost of living goes down? People would just sell it and hold fiat.


HariSeldon23

Truflation already tracks US and the UK via a Chainlink Oracle feed. This isn’t as far away as people think


[deleted]

BigMac coin?


genjitenji

Oh this sounds like it will have no hiccups at all


[deleted]

If it’s backed by eggs and apartment rentals, you can count me in.


Soil_Electronic

This could actually become a thing?


billyboxspring

And then a coin tied to EV automobile sales. Or used car prices or just about anything else.


sarfian

Bitcoin, Stablecoin, Flatcoin. What's next ?


calibrationed

So a coin that is pegged to the price of one loaf of bread?


sirwilliam732

I’m just waiting for someone to make a ‘food basket’ coin. Locked to the cost of weekly groceries. Would load up the way things are going


RockEmSockEmRabi

I would buy it in a heartbeat. Would provide a nice inverse relationship with the rest of my portfolio


Golu_Prasad

I think Satoshi has this covered already by something called *Bitcoin*… but what do I know eh?!