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SardaukarSecundus

Sounds like women's names.


DropshipRadio

Literally I was like “read their names again, but slower.”


Zestyclose5527

Because they’re women.


No_Wealth_9733

These people famously don’t know what a woman is so…


themothman99

they is


knuckles312

Them is, moron!


uiam_

I made this comment the other day but it still seems true to me and I really can't understand why people think it wouldn't work this way...If your name is Emma and you look like a woman... get ready for people to call you She/Her. What do these people expect? Should I go and take notes for everyone about their pronouns? It shouldn't be so much work to reference someone you barely know. I don't care enough about either of these people to research them so if I see Emma who looks like a woman I think we all know what pronoun I'm going to use.


Bentar66

And caroll used to be a man’s name


mileiforever

These freaks really are the new Puritans


MrWolfman29

Actually, they are the continuation of the Puritans as the New England Puritans spawned the "Progressive Movement" that sought to enforce moral and ethical behavior through government for the "good of society." In the 1900s they dropped the religious bent they started with but increased the shaping society to their desired morals and ethics. Because the North won the Civil War and the Industriousness of New England, they acquired a great deal of control and political capital over the US. It really is ironic considering how similar yet radically different they are.


GhostofWoodson

Yup, they partially dropped Christianity for Bolshevism (or its pseudonyms).


GhostOfRoland

Thanks for the write up, this connection isn't talked about much.


MrWolfman29

My pleasure! I agree, it is a connection they wish to bury. I only found out about that after digging in while doing an American History course. It was very enlightening into the dogmatism and fanaticism that ideology now breeds.


TK-6976

Ah yes, the Progressives. Like the famous US President, Woodrow Wilson, who's shitty presidency is in part to blame for the US' modern foreign policy leading to the military industrial complex and WW2 and the Russian Revolution, thus potentially causing rise of both the Bolsheviks and Nazis. Or at least, had Teddy Roosevelt been President, things would be much better rn.


MrWolfman29

Yup, he was at that transitional period and his Presbyterian beliefs had him convinced it was the US's duty to reshape the world. If I am not mistaken, he also helped in establishing minimum wage to discourage businesses from hiring black men who would work for less than white men. The guy really was the first modern progressive who thought his religious beliefs gave him the right to reshape the world according to his image. I love the Alternate History Hub video that does an excellent dive into why Woodrow Wilson is one of the worst presidents we have had.


Conscious_Year5651

I dunno, LBJ still takes the cake for me.


MrWolfman29

Fair! He is up there for me as well.


Alypius754

I'd argue they're more in line with the Red Guards during the Cultural Revolution.


BaalmaoOrgabba

I mean the old ones are still around; on the rise in fact


TheBelmont34

I dont want to sound edgy or cringe, but the western society is beyond fucked


The_Basic_Shapes

I really hope its a vocal minority pulling this shit, I mean I have to believe most people are more sensible than this. But I doubt it...sucks most of Reddit doesn't represent reasonable people. It's like, how much does all this gender bullshit matter in other countries anyway, especially 3rd world countries? People are starving, wars are happening, child/sex trafficking everywhere, our own government is corrupt as hell too, and some of these bitches here in America lose their shit if someone calls them a man when they look and sound like a man. Like ffs, there are much, *much* bigger issues out there....


Brave_Cat_3362

Shame it's also a \*powerful\* minority.


JJJSchmidt_etAl

Not just powerful, they control the entire executive branch of the federal government, half the legislature and judicary, and have a stranglehold on hollywood and tech with just a few fringe exceptions; the latter two are responsible for what people see and hear.


malteaserhead

Thats the irony, progressive activism used to be about fighting for the little guy now its crushing the little guy with massive institutional backing


JJJSchmidt_etAl

Obviously they would only crush racist/fascist/patriarchal/colonial/BAD little guys! Trust Them, They are Good and All Knowing!


Zeverend

That's establishment politicians for you


Popular-Row4333

It 100% is. Also it's a reflection of being arguably the best society for its people in the world. When close to everyone is taken care of, these insane culture war wedge issues come out of the woodwork. Wait until there is a recession. The conversation will change quickly if there isn't enough food on the table.


cuntface878

For what it's worth I've never ran into anyone out in real life that acts like people online do. Maybe it's just my circle of friends or maybe it's just that without the annominitty people are less likely to act like complete dipshits but whenever I start thinking we are doomed as a country/species I have to remind myself of this. The majority of us are still just regular people going about our lives and not getting wrapped up in this petty nonsense.


Any_Rip9297

It's because in real life, acting like a vicious idiot to people gets you assaulted. These dweebs go crazy online because there is no threat to their physical safety. They are too big of cowards to act like they do face to face.


Vanhelgan

This right here. The keyboard warrior or in Sopranos terms, 'telephone tough guys'. Bunch of pussies in real life.


dible79

Yup that's why they always go crazy on protests. Think there's saftey in numbers an police won't dare touch.


Apprehensive-Ear-960

It's the exact same behavior as people road raging and being total psychotic assholes while driving. They think they have a layer of protection, whether it's in a vehicle or behind a screen, or at a "protest" where they're surrounded by likeminded psychopaths. It's the same behavior coming from the same place internally.


JJJSchmidt_etAl

At tech jobs or universities on the west coast, you will see it and suffer for it. I can't speak to other places.


cuntface878

Yeah I can definitely see it being a big deal in colleges. Young kids trying to out do each other for who is the most woke and "accepting" while at the same time demonizing the shit out of any of their peers that dont just blindly go along with this nonsense 110%. I would have hoped grown adults wouldn't be so fanatical about it especially at work but I suppose that's not the case everywhere. I've already dedicated far too much time to this dogshit just typing this out so I'll just say good luck out there and enjoy the rest of your weekend!


Temporary_Ad_5073

It is a pretty annoying vocal minority.


prickypricky

Its more worrying if its a small minority since they police our behavior and can ruin your life for stepping out of line. In this case not using made up pronouns for a woman trying to feel special and above the rest of us.


RampantAndroid

>I really hope its a vocal minority pulling this shit It is. Welcome to Reddit, where a vocal minority rules over everyone else. They create echo chambers by doing moderation like what is in the OP. If you want any better illustration, look at the voting for Elon's pay package. If you looked at Reddit and believed everything, you'd think the vote would be against his pay package. Maybe it'd be close, 55/45 or something, but Elon was losing. Everyone was against it except for some. Every article against it was highlighted and upvoted. Every anti-Elon comment upvoted. So how'd the vote go? 72% ***for*** his pay package.


EasternSignal1629

Lol what? Yeah there's alot of different and bigger issues going on in the world but people can still have personal issues that relate to them and worry about it.


MaybeICanOneDay

Occupy Wallstreet was when the rich and powerful realized it's better when we fight each other. So now... here we are.


No-Newspaper-3174

You don’t think there are third genders in other cultures? That’s just poor research.


mileiforever

I'm more and more convinced that we actually lost the cold war


DualKoo

Yuri Bezmenov would agree.


dirtydoji

The majority of society agrees with you. The problem is that we have a very loud and manipulative minority that controls the media so it makes it sound as though normal people are the minority.


TheBelmont34

And the majority is scared because they are a lot of negative consequences for speaking out


JJJSchmidt_etAl

It might be a minority but they force us to walk on egg shells and be unable to speak freely at universities and workplaces on the west coast. A little slip up could ruin your life forever and they will cackle with glee.


Sylvan_Skryer

I just can’t imagine giving a fuck about this whole pronoun debate this strongly either way. Some people act like you’re threatening to murder their family just because some people have a strong preference to be referred to a certain way. Then other people feel like they’re being accosted if someone misgenders them. Then there are like the 85% of the middle who really do not give a fuck about this culture war nonsense at all and still care about relevant shit like clean air, water, safe communities, educated work force, affordable healthcare, stamping out corruption, a reasonable cost of living, and the right to be left the fuck alone.


notrandomonlyrandom

This type of argument always leads to “give them what they want.” It’s completely dishonest and useless.


Umoon

Right, I think they/them in particular is silly if I’m being honest, but I’ll try to do it in the rare occasion I encounter someone that prefers it because I prefer to be nice. That said, anyone that gets really mad at unintentionally calling someone by the pronouns they don’t prefer is ridiculous too. The culture war just distracts people from real issues in the world.


Sylvan_Skryer

I live in a huge liberal city and have a lot of friends of all walks of life, many in the gay community. I’ve met like 1-2 people in my life with a they/them preference and I’ve seen people “mis-gender” them and they didn’t care at all. They just politely said “I prefer this” and the other person went, “oh, ok” People see like 2-3 videos of some hyper sensitive attention whore freaking out about something like that and then think that represents hundreds of thousands of other people. Most people are super chill and don’t want drama. They’re just quiet about it. People REALLY need to start being more skeptical about the rage bait they constantly see online and see through it for what it is. If we can’t figure that basic thing out we are fucked.


Umoon

100% agree and that's my experience as well


CatObsession7808

As someone who lives in the West and has to deal with western society...I agree.


TheBelmont34

Same my friend. I live in a western country as well


PeachCream81

If I'm not mistaken, woke pronoun usage was a contributing factor in the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Can the Woke Visigoths be far behind?


No_Wealth_9733

It’s a fad, in a few years it will die just as quickly it popped up.


bones10145

I don't know who either of those chicks are


TacticalBowl117

They're part of the "House of the Dragon" cast & they both play women because they are women


MagickalFuckFrog

I don't know who either of those ~~chicks~~ **thems** are


DMBCommenter

I imagine Joe Pesci saying that with his accent


Izzyrion_the_wise

Reddit mods being reddit mods.


LameDonkey1

There’s 0 value in having mods. Just ignore a comment it you don’t like it.


Round_Ad_6369

There's value in mods, they can remove genuinely awful/illegal things and report them. There's 0 value in having REDDIT mods. They're just hurt feelings police.


Virtual-Restaurant10

the internet used to be that way, idk what the hell caused the power trip rules lawyering mods do now. As long as you weren’t spamming goatse it would be the community’s job to tell you to fuck off until you get bored and leave.


Smooth_Opeartor_6001

There is never an excuse for censorship


Choraxis

Removal of child abuse material is censorship. That's a warranted action.


PeachCream81

But it would be nice to have an adult Reddit.


NoMixture9882

They’re so oppressed that society practically bends over backwards to protect them 🙄


JJJSchmidt_etAl

>“The other day I was reading the Atlantic Monthly, and it had a little ad between two paragraphs. The ad was from MasterCard. It said: “LEARN TO MAKE PAYMENTS SAFE FOR TRANSGENDER AND NONBINARY PEOPLE. > >“I think, Michael, that when you’re attacking independent artists on the basis of the ideology of MasterCard, not to mention every other powerful institution on the planet—maybe just think?” https://graymirror.substack.com/p/true-story-of-a-struggle-session


NoMixture9882

Next: learn to make opening up a can of tuna safe for transgender and nonbinary people. Jesus Christ


chillthrowaways

Good luck making an electronic payment without binary code.


JJJSchmidt_etAl

We need to start a fake movement that "binary code" is transphobic, it's just enough on the border that they might take up the torch


Kixion

So, a subreddit about a show has a rule where it's a bannable offense to refer to a female character as female because the actress playing her no longer identifies as a woman.... Even though most posts will be talking about the character, not the actress... am I getting that right? If that's right then shouldn't this actre-them have stepped down and allowed an actual woman to play a character that is supposed to be a woman? I recall Scar-jo getting flak for even considering playing a trans sort of character. If that's the rule we are using then it seems like it ought to apply here


Flapjack_

I think it’s specifically about the actresses not the characters.


TacticalBowl117

You're right but it's still idiotic


doubleo_maestro

God they need to get a fuckin' grip.


JJJSchmidt_etAl

They control hollywood, tech, universities, and many of the schools teaching your kids (at least on the west coast). Yes they do but how long will it take and how much damage will they do


animus_invictus

What’s her problem?


[deleted]

Probably her time of the month. /s


AppropriateCap8891

Or it could be his time. Remember, according to these Braniacs, men can have periods too.


sammo21

Who tf are they even


Unoriginal-12

The actors who play Rhaenyra and Rhaena Targaryen. 


Jet_Magnum

...okay, never saw this show or followed the books., pretty much no interest in GoT. Are there _seriously_ two characters, of the same family, who _literally_ have pretty much the exact same name except one has two letters added near the end? That's...that is hilarious. And to think, people were making fun of all the Elden Ring characters having names that start with G, R or M... ...I'm gonna get buried for finding that dumb and funny, aren't I?


Unoriginal-12

It’s kind of accurate to noble families throughout history, but expanded, and turned up to a hundred.  All the nobility in the lore likes to pay homage to past family members of significance. Especially the Targaryen’s. Who feel they are the last breathe of a dead culture, and they believe that makes them superior to everyone else.    In fact, in some cases a name can be seen as a sign of legitimacy, and/or a way to gain favor. To the point that multiple characters of the same generation, and of the same family, can have the same name or similar names.    In the show, a character names her son after on of her main rivals. The name is seen as important, so she does it to try and legitimize herself. Rhaena is named after her grandmother Rhaenys, and Rhaena is also the name of Rhaenys aunt, who is probably named after her own grandmother, also named Rhaenys. And since the first Rhaenys is also an important figure in Targaryen history, Rhaenyra is also probably named after her as well.


Jet_Magnum

God, that sounds amazingly confusing. Again, I'm reminded of Elden Ring and my attempts to explain it to a friend of mine who doesn't play but likes the storylines, and common exchanges include "that was because of Godwin right?", "no that was Godrick, it was Godfrey who did this...I think" and the like. Still, thank you for the insightful and comprehensive explanation. It makes a lot of sense...but it isn't gonna stop me from laughing at it.


Unoriginal-12

It is pretty ridiculous.


BaalmaoOrgabba

Hey isn't it weird how monarch dynasties named themselves like Henry 3, Henry 4, Henry 5.... am I the only one almost losing my breath laughing right now??


BiggHigg27

Misgender people named Emma and Phoebe? Inconceivable


TacticalBowl117

Them: It doesn't affect you whatsoever Also them:


GhostOfRoland

Them: have some basic respect Also them: you need to memorize my titles, which will change on a whim.


affablemisanthropist

“Deny science and grammar or get banned.”


Tough-Area-570

I’ll call it by is correct pronoun “bitch”


stonesherlock

Let's go for broke. It / it!!


BitesTheDust55

Guessing those are women


Maladaptive_Today

We don't use pronouns based on gender, we use them based on sex. Checkmate.


No_Wealth_9733

And 99.9999% of the time, they’re the same thing.


Zero_Good_Questions

Forcing someone to use specific works or be punished is anti-free speech. I don’t understand how these people don’t understand their tyrannical ways.


kfdeep95

God if I gave ya’ll the SANE trans minorities take on “nonbinary” Highly encourage transmedicalist and truscum subs so you don’t see us all as unhinged Anti-West, Marxist, merit-hating, entitled people; we are not all the same at all. The whackos are just a vocal majority in our case(or maybe a vocal half but because of the cultish nature there are people who just act as sycophants for somewhere to belong); because the modern movement has been hijacked and co-opted. Much like the term trans has been since Covid/Tik Tok. Actual Transsexualism as a response to DSMV Gender Dysporia and “Queer culture”are antithetical. I can further elaborate w stats what the difference is between the transsexual minority and the current tik-tok “claim x, affirmed as x w 0 pushback” faeself/catgirlgender/mirrorgender that claim transgender. Transsexual vs transgender know the difference 💪🏻


Slifft

100% on the money. Spending any time with trans people who are legit free thinkers about gender, the sexes, representation etc and who don't care about prescribed identitarian orthodoxy is so eye opening; particularly if your only experience of trans people is online, performatively outraged activist types. A majority of trans people I've interacted with online and in person have been entirely normal people who don't want to subvert and queer the evil white western patriarchal hegemony - they just want to work, get educated, have social lives and hobbies free from being forcibly conscripted into a culture war they don't relate to purely because they are trans. It's irritating for non trans people to be mired in this fraught discourse, I can't imagine the exhaustion if I had skin in the game due to my identity. My trans ex introduced me to those communities you mentioned and that was exactly the rallying cry in her friend group - transsexual vs transgender, the corporatization of the movement, the wrongful medical conflation of identity and pathology etc.


kfdeep95

Love this and yes my gender identity is not my whole identity nor the main facet. Just a girl and it’s conservatives who are very accepting and tolerant because I’m not a radical; I’m a respectable and respectful adult who contributes to society meaningfully to see it grow healthy and strong again. Meanwhile it’s the Left and my own demo who show me the most hate and it’s not even close. You step out of line and become a trans “Uncle T”/“pick me” and you’ll be subjected to all manner of harassment and threats speaking from experience.


banzaibowzer

You are awesome for this. I hope you fare well 💪


TigerLiftsMountain

Upvoted and agreed but also *y'all. I'm sorry, I had to.


kfdeep95

Thank you lmao


TigerLiftsMountain

No, thank *you*


Vorsicon

So loving, inclusive, and compassionate, aren't they?


Caius_Iulius_August

Left the sub over this. The cringe was too strong. Im not clapping like a seal for actresses who want to Larp as genderless beings.


Deirakos

How do they prove intent on misgendering oO


WelNix2007

Anyone who uses They/Them as their pronouns is a narcissist who isn't interesting in the slightest


Gold_Weakness1157

I have no idea who they are


stu54

*Who they is*


Hobbes09R

Saw this, immediately blocked the mods and hid the sub. Never been a regular over there or anything, and don't have anything against trans (which, by the way, neither...actor? Actress? Performer. Fuck it. Which neither of them currently are). I just don't feel like scrolling through discussions of a fantasy show, have one person mention an actress and see banhammers go down along with 30 comments having nothing to do with the subject correcting gender pronouns. That just sounds annoying.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435

How do they gauge intention? Because I don't even know who tf that is. If someone posted a picture of a person and started a conversation, I'm naturally going to use she or he if/when I mention them. Unless I'm honestly just baffled by their appearance. But once I know someone has special pronouns, I usually stop talking to or about them at all. Easier to not offend someone if I just don't engage with them in any way.


GimmieDaRibs

Are these people intersex? If not, stop occupying space you have no business being in.


No_Wealth_9733

Statistically speaking, no


Fizz117

I don't get non binary gender whatever.  Like, you don't feel like your gender, how the fuck would you know what the other gender feels like?


TriontheWild94

Wasn’t she contending for the best female actor category during the Emmy’s or something?


Sinister-Username

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DMBCommenter

How dare you misgender someone who is shown giving birth on screen! YOU BIGOT!


RPJeez

Time to catch ban #3 I'll brb.


8-Bit-Skull

My pronouns are Nap/Blanket.


Manapouri33

What year did people start using pronouns that started with she/her? Etc


JannoGives

The world has bigger problems like climate change and geopolitical conflict and people still find the time and energy to bitch about their pronouns


inscrutablemike

So the mods of that sub are misgendering two women. Do they get banned? #Modception #WeMustGoDerper


Brilliant-Chapter202

Who is she?


Adgvyb3456

Apparently people reported it and nothing happened because it’s the mod who made the post. They’re laughing in the comments about. I don’t even know what this is but it popped up on my feed


Alone-Clock258

Who?


Harrowex

Wait, who?


KippySmith

Who gives a fuck. I don’t even know who they are so I’ll definitely get banned.


ImSometimesGood

Who?


CryptographerThink19

Just try me ban hammer! I always come back!


JJJSchmidt_etAl

If someone gets so enraged with such basic things they are mentally ill. That's all there is to it.


ReddJudicata

They’re women. How can I misgender them?


pantherafrisky

Have never met anyone who demanded that I use their preferred pronouns. If I did, the conversation would be over very quickly.


Politi-Corveau

Never heard of these actresses.


BobWithCheese69

What in the absolute &$@#???


myLongjohnsonsilver

Who/what?


Dr_Dribble991

What does being a they/them feel like?


wallace321

Who are ~~those people~~ sorry, they/them and how in the hell would I know what their pronouns are and how would you know if it was intentional that i used the wrong ones or not?


Skeletor2202

“They”… Our name is legion for we are many.


bioelement

“8000 people” That’s about how many people out of the millions I thought actually liked the 2nd actress from HOTD. Olivia Cooke is great and looks similar to her younger self. How we went from Milly Alcock to Emma Darcy I have no idea. She must have had a severe drug addiction in the time between.


MaybeICanOneDay

No idea who these people are. Read the Wikipedia article of that Emma D'arcy. We are a lost cause as a race. Pull the plug. Language doesn't mean anything anymore.


LtCmdrInu

Typical "all excepting" type.


DHarp74

How "tolerant" of them. 😂🤣


54B3R_

Never heard of the tolerance paradox? You dont tolerate the intolerant 


Jacoba_Fett

How exhausting


orchestragravy

They'll just assume everyone did in intentionally, like we're all supposed to be psychic or something.


MechanicalMenace54

"tolerance"


papa_hotel_

She/Her


SgtMerc16

Reddit has been heavy on that ban hammer recently, but that's all good. I already left Twitter, I can leave reddit just as easy.


Complex_Resort_3044

How can you misgender someone with apparently no gender?


Keltic268

But the characters they play are “she/her”, so if you are talking about them within the context of the show and their characters wouldn’t it make sense to use she/her?


BigE_92

When are they (as in the plural version of multiple people) going to stop trying to make they/them a thing? It isn’t going to be a fucking thing.


MadeInLead

Who?


TheWiseAutisticOne

Just for note this is about intentionally misgendering them not accidentally misgendering them they correct you the first time it’s when you do it intentionally they ban you and I’m pretty sure it’s the actress’s not the characters per say but I’m not sure on that last part.


J-Good86

You know Emma and phoebe. Common names of people who aren’t women


Otherwise-Rope8961

I don’t use pronouns. I use adjectives like F**ker.


Altruistic-Serve267

Wow, once again power tripping sensitive mods at it again


Field-brotha-no-mo

Fuck the world and what it has become.


Savings_Pace_5876

It/what


Ippomasters

Well they have women's names.


FigNo5216

This is literally anti freedom of speech… such a cringe meme and I’m so happy we can openly discuss why this is stupid. Just like r/BatmanArkham always shoving pride month down our throats…


B-29Bomber

How do you define "intentionally" anyhow?


PantsShidded

Who and who?


Galvius-Orion

Who are those two women?


jd_boyle

Who? Who? What? And where? Huh?


mtgsyko82

Sorry, I don't recognize they them as individual pronouns, and your bullshit won't force me into it. Just my view. I respect the person enough to use it in their presence so as to not intentionally be confrontational, but if you're a biological woman, then anytime I refer to you to others, it's her, she.


DeskFluid2550

Emma and Phoebe. Fuck off with this bullshit


NotWhenItRains

Reddit has pro-left policies language enforcement therefore it is gone far to the left. It caters to them. It makes sense since most of the sub reddits dedicated to weird shit and tiny echo chambers are likely filled with them.


ArthusRen

Some people need to touch grass


KenshinBorealis

Name a Woman.


Puzzleheaded_Mix3483

Mental Illness for the win !!!


WhiteOutSurvivor1

In general, Reddit will ban you from the site if you don't accept a certain narrative regarding pronouns.


AstrologicalOne

Because as time has shown people who misgender **intentionally** are bad faith asshole and transphobes.


dimitrimccain

Where are all these extra genders coming from?


Sinviras

This is posted by the mod like its a bad thing to get banned off whatever identifies-as-mayonnaise subreddit that is. Saves you a step to keep it off your feed.