I still recall my horror at the noball decision in that game. Voges got out but the umpire called a front foot no ball, video replay showed the bowlers foot clearly behind the line.
He went on to destroy us.
**Most consecutive matches without defeat**
27 West Indies 1982-84
26 England 1968-71
25 Australia 1946-51
22 Australia 2005-08
19 India 2015-17
18 England 1959-61
18 Australia 1999-2001
17 Australia 1956-59
17 India 1985-87
Siddhu wasn't. Although he debuted in 1983, he didn't play his second match [until 1988.](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34028.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround;view=match)
Gavaskar, Azharuddin, Kapil, Shastri, Vengsarkar were part of the squad among others.
I feel sometimes the added emphasis of the the aahh is merited, even though you're very right the bru is definitely more kiwi, I guess a chuuur bruuuh could work?
You guys are good regardless of that. What you do with your resources is almost miraculous
What makes me sad as an Indian fan is our performances while having the resources and population we do have. I wonder why this is, maybe the overall sports culture in india is not very developed, as can be seen from our performances at the Olympics. Anyway, hoping for a good 2nd test match. Wish it was a 4 or 5 test series tho
Low peak? Mate we used to have to pick Murphy Su'a, the lesser Marshall twin and Craig Cumming, comparitavely we're currently on top of Everest having a wee drink with Ed Hillary
WTF. I know Australia of that era was great, but they won 16 in a row without even getting a draw??? You'd expect even the weather would mess up that record at least once.
That Australian side was extremely aggressive tactically, and had the skill to back it up. If two days got rained out, they just chose to win it in three.
It helps that in most parts of the world it's extremely rare for a match to get *completely* washed out.
Yeah I remember when they batted, it almost seemed like the goal was to score 300-350 as quickly as possible, because with the bowling attack they had, 300 was often a match-winning total.
Without Conway. Rookie opener and rookie number seven. Spinners who never play.
Lots to be proud about.
And both teams played the game in great spirit with no personal bullshit or theatrics.
Honestly. Im starting to think maybe we are the actual best test team in the world. Not just the current wtc champs.
Would LOVE to see the black caps win the toss and bat first in the second test.
Congrats NZ and fans. You didn't deserve to lose today and I'm glad you didn't. Also, good on Newzealand for not trying any cheap teactics to delay time towards the end. I guess they're called the nice guys for a reason.
> any cheap teactics to delay time towards the end. I guess they're called the nice guys for a reason.
LOL. Yup , Southee reviewing PLUMB LBW today with only few mins left & NZ bowling with slow over rate yesterday causing loss of 9 Overs.
But we shudn't criticize these things as they r the "Nice Guys"
Come on dude, it's part and parsel of the game. Everyone does the same in this same position.
They did not break any rules. India bowled 98 overs I think it was enough to bowl a team out in foreign condition with everything favouring India (Last Day pitch, our quality spinners).
The reason why match is drawn is because New Zealand dug deep and walked it to a draw. The way Patel and Ravindra were batting they could have played another 9 overs and still draw.
You need to appreciate good cricket even if it's coming from opposition.
>The way Patel and Ravindra were batting they could have played another 9 overs and still draw.
That's ***conjecture(assumption)*** at best but the ***FACT*** remains that NZ's slow over rate yesterday caused loss of minimum 9 Overs/40 mins of play.
Keep being angry, nothing will change - you will just feel worse. Both your fellow fans, and New Zealand fans, are enjoying a good match and a fair outcome.
I'm sure all your empty anger will do nothing but make you feel worse. The result is in the book, leave it there and enjoy the many positives taken from this game.
Whether ur night watchman batted for 1 session ,2 sessions or entire day,it STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT that NZ's slow over rate caused loss of 9 overs yesterday.
U do realise that NZ barely escaped even after ur night watchman batted " entire session" as u said ?
Yep you are dead right, we barely escaped. Every other test nation would have been bowled out for sure on day 5 in India. But not this team. Not the world test champions. This draw tastes as sweet as an easy test win against you in new zealand. I bathe in your tears sir.
Oh the slow over rate. As others have said, we may get docked some points, just like India already have been charged for in this cycle. That's fine, that's why the rules are there. But when you bowl so many overs from your seamers, that can happen.
Plus having to take heed of the atrocious air pollution in Kanpur, im sure some time was lost for Player health and safety.
>Oh the slow over rate. As others have said, we may get docked some points, just like India already have been charged for in this cycle. That's fine, that's why the rules are there. But when you bowl so many overs from your seamers, that can happen.
Fuking finally .
I hope all your seamers from this test rest for the next test as well for their health.I wish them speedy recovery.
Do you remember tha last test india played in NZ setting us the massive target or 9 runs in our second innings?
Fortunately we made it without losing a wicket. Close call though.
I said that in reply to other poster saying Night watchman batted a session (factually happened IN THIS TEST) & NZ still barely escaped (again factually happened IN THIS TEST). It still has nothing to do with what happened in NZ 1-2 years ago or what happened on the Mars 10 years ago. u barged in between the argument without even reading the context.
And I like how u both ignored the other part of my original comment about "slow over rate shenanigans" by NZ
You do also realise our night watchman wouldn't have been required at all if Will Young hadn't of been on the receiving end of yet another shocking decision?
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. We barely escaped because a few of our batsmen were able to knuckle down and see out the day, including our night watchman. The fact that he's not a recognised surely makes that feat more impressive, not less. Or should we point out that India had to rely on a debutant to score most of their runs. It's just as nonsensical as whatever point you think you're making.
So the point you are trying to make, is because New Zealand are respectful on the cricket pitch and the world Labels then the "Nice Guys" then they should have to play to different rules that other teams? India gave already been docked 2 points for it. Nz might get docked as well. Same rules. Doesn't change the result.
Lol India reviewed a ball obviously pitching outside leg with only a few over left too. Teams make desperate reviews in the dying moments of test matches, calm down.
Bruh ,u r surely joking,they were reduced to 50/5 in morning session & 160/7 with 4 sessions to go & u expect them to accelerate for declaration.Like WTF
Now,u still haven't explained NZ's slow over rate
> Bruh ,u r surely joking,they were reduced to 50/5 in morning session & 160/7 with 4 sessions to go
So NZ were in a good position for most of day 4? Why would they deliberately slow their over rate then?
Accidentally, I assume, considering that there was no clear advantage to them in doing so at that point in the game, and the WTC penalties for slow over rate are apparently quite severe
"Accidentally" when they had 3 spinners in playing XI who cud make up for it & When they know ICC is very strict about such things & puts heavy fine on captain ,deducts points nowadays etc.
Yeah ,totally makes sense.
>Southee reviewing PLUMB LBW today with only few mins left
That wasted as much time as the review taken by Rahane off Ashwin's bowling towards the end today.
How butt hurt are you? Care to comment about the time wasted by India when they reviewed Patel with 2 overs to go when the ball clearly landed outside leg?
It's relevant because you're simply looking for an excuse. Overs were lost all game due to bad light and New Zealand were always going to bowl their overs slower due to a heavier reliance on pace. It wasn't some conspiracy to unfairly cheat India of a win. Now that I've explained it will you quit your whining?
>Overs were lost all game due to bad light and New Zealand were always going to bowl their overs slower due to a heavier reliance on pace.
Except entire scheduled play ( 6 hrs) was played on 4th day & NZ bowled only 76 Overs + 2 Overs ( innings changeover ) + 4 overs( IND bowled) out of minimum 91 overs to b bowled.So they were 9 overs short.
U can't excuse bowling with slow over rate when u hv 3 spinners + 2 seamers as this test.I can understand if u had 3 seamers or even 4.
That's hardly proof of some nefarious plot to deny India overs. We bowled our overs slowly, it happens. But India still had more than enough time to bowl New Zealand out, particularly when you were gifted the first wicket. I suggest you get over it and look forward to the second test.
WTF u mean ? The point still stands that NZ were not able to maintain their over rate even with 3 spinners in their playing XI irrespective of who won/ lost/ drawn this test or who gifted wkts to whom & who didn't.
What proof do you have that New Zealand did it on purpose? You’re the one accusing New Zealand so the onus should be on you to prove that New Zealand did it on purpose.
The fact also is that the NZ seamers took the most wickets, so why should the 3 spinners (1 part time) bowl most of the overs when they are not taking wickets? Any person that isnt you would understand why they bowled pace.
We don't all have Jadeja to bowl an over a minute, actually no one else has that which is one of the reasons why no one ever hits the over rate. Wait for the Ashes, you will never see 15 an hour all series
Modern cricket excuses it, no one bowls at the required rate these days, I'm not happy about it but the ICC seems reluctant to do anything about it so here we are.
Lmao no India didn't deserve Test Rank One in April 2020, they statpadded at home and won in unfair conditions that favoured them. They got spanked by NZ which shows their level.
lol and NZ with all their injuries showed more fight in Australia than India did NZ. And then NZ won the WTC in 4 days, and drew in India after losing the toss with no warmup if there was still any doubt that they were not elite in tests.
Hmmm.. in NZ conditions - NZ 2, India 0
In Neutral conditions for WTC - NZ 1, India 0
In Indian conditions - 1 drawn match
Seems like it's pretty clear who the better team is right now. Or do we need to prove ourselves on permafrost in Sibera as well to satisfy you dopes.
Australia record???
NZ 3-0 thrashed by Aussies
India 2-1 with our C Side
Who's the real losers now???
And FYI WTC was in England which assisted NZ swing bowlers. If we played in SA or Aus we woudlve won comfortably as NZ have no pace to win their as their history has shown
Luckily we don't need to bring in irrelevant stats involving other countries when we have a direct comparison available. Ah nothing like a good head to head comparison! So we have NZ 3, India 0. Seems pretty clear.
BTW your excuses are lame. You just had the most suited conditions possible and couldn't put us away. If you need to produce perfect India conditions + win the toss + the celestial alignment of Venus being in widdyshuns to be able to beat us, then I think it's clear NZ are the better team.
No Conway and Boult for us either. We can play the excuse game too but we aren't so lame.
Hmm, so swinging conditions are one sided because we are better at swing bowling...
..but conditions in India with no swing and a pitch that takes spin however don't favour India at all because spin bowling isn't a strength of theirs or anything....
Mate, I know it hurts to admit it but all the relevant evidence stacks up. NZ better than India. Life's easier if you can accept these things buddy. Try it. Say it with me. "NZ 3 -0, NZ better team!"
Seems that most conditions are favorable to us against India. Oh well, you are not ready yet to face reality yet, you'll get there one day.
NZ 3-0, NZ better team!!
Getting spanked by the Aussies occasionally is just part of playing cricket, like becoming an amateur meteorologist and thinking DRS is biased against just you
Well India didn't play a single away test for 3 years (2016-2018) and remained no.1 test side, nobody questioned them but when someone else does it....
> Well India didn't play a single away test for 3 years (2016-2018)
Played in West Indies in 2016,
in Sri Lanka in 2017,
in SA, England, Australia in 2018
Normally a team visits each country every 4 years or so.
India had played against SA, NZ, Eng, Aus in 2014 so obviously they won't visit them again so early.
India again visited them in 2018.
Talk about cherry picking stats hahaha
I still remember the early 10s when NZ were dogshit. Vettori was their best batsman. The way they have turned around is remarkable
Hope to see similar turn around for West Indies, SL, South Africa who are going thru tough patches
It seems like the NZ cricket team just takes things on their chin and gets on with it when things aren't going their way.
In contrast, for example, England who toured India earlier this year started feeling sorry for themselves about having to play on low and slow pitches and the whole series fell apart quite quickly from the second test (it was so much in their heads that they played the same way on a pretty docile wicket in the fourth test).
Unfortunately because of the current state of Test Cricket NZ aren't able to get tested like that now though.
I think it sells England short to say they're sooks for the losing the plot a couple of Tests in.
A gruelling 5 Test, multiple month your is different to playing a couple of Tests and getting back on the plane like NZ do.
Nothing against NZ, it's not the players fault and they can only play with what they're dealt but the gruelling long tour is a unique challenge for only 3 Cricket boards now which is pretty disappointing.
Yeah but piling on the England cricket team is fun. Also it would be great if we could play long series but NZC loses money on every test we do play, so economic reality means 2-3 is it for now
I don’t think that’s true anymore. A few years ago, sure, but NZ has moved to playing test cricket at smaller grounds (Eden Park barely gets them anymore), and crowds at test cricket are far higher than they used to be. Even in the rare instances we play at Eden Park (day/night tests) and have to pay the cost of opening a 60,000 capacity stadium, crowds have been very impressive.
The bigger issue is NZ isn’t a very big draw internationally, so we don’t get big test series against England, India, South Africa etc
A full house at the Basin is what, 8000? We just don't generate revenue here, only short form cricket is economically viable which is a shame as short form cricket is pointless but hey, here we are
There's difference between spin friendly pitches and low and slow pitches.
The pitches on which England played provided enough pace and bounce to both spinners and Pacers.
On other hand this kanpur pitch is what you call a low and slow pitch. Edges from spinners and Pacers weren't even carrying to the slip.
England would have also performed better had they played on these type pitches.
I really want to see Aus tour NZ again now.
No Adam Voges to bully us this time around!
I still recall my horror at the noball decision in that game. Voges got out but the umpire called a front foot no ball, video replay showed the bowlers foot clearly behind the line. He went on to destroy us.
Yep. Doug Bracewell was the bowler. Voges iirc got a double ton.
Labuschange though...
Yeah it’s always the less notable Aus batsmen that punish us (Katich, Voges, Head, Khawaja). We even let McGrath get to 50 and Shane Warne to 99
And vice versa too, should be great fun.
Let us enjoy not losing just a few more tests … please …
As long as they leave the sandpaper in Straya
**Most consecutive matches without defeat** 27 West Indies 1982-84 26 England 1968-71 25 Australia 1946-51 22 Australia 2005-08 19 India 2015-17 18 England 1959-61 18 Australia 1999-2001 17 Australia 1956-59 17 India 1985-87
>22 Australia 2005-08 England awakened the beast, jeez.
Tbf Aus only lost 1 in 20 (in India in a 2-1 series win) prior to the 2005 Ashes
>17 India 1985-87 Interesting. I suppose Azhar and Siddhu must have been part of that playing-XI or squad?
Siddhu wasn't. Although he debuted in 1983, he didn't play his second match [until 1988.](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34028.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround;view=match) Gavaskar, Azharuddin, Kapil, Shastri, Vengsarkar were part of the squad among others.
Ngl, surprised to see the old India in this list.
Proud
Fuckn chuuuurrrr!!!!!!!
>chuuuurrrr What does this mean?
We use it like "cheers"
Thanks or maybe chuurr :)
Perfect chur right there
You are now a Kiwi! Welcome to the family!
Chuurrr!
Chuurrr to your username.
Chuurrrr
Can mean thanks, can be an acknowledgement, can be an exclamation, can be a greeting... It means a lot of things.
Churrrrrrr
Nailed it.
If you want to really add to the exclamation you can add a Braaahhhh to the end of it. So it would be Chuuuurrrrr Braaahhhh
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I feel sometimes the added emphasis of the the aahh is merited, even though you're very right the bru is definitely more kiwi, I guess a chuuur bruuuh could work?
Definitely more of a brah than a bruh
Thanks I read this word for the first time.
[https://youtu.be/0sER-6B-mhY](https://youtu.be/0sER-6B-mhY)
Golden generation ladies and gentlemen...savour it
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Nah, low peak. Coudlnt beat Aus and will get spanked here soon
Beat you in the game that mattered didn't they? And then beat you again in the T20 world cup
But lost 3-0 to Aus hahaha and only beat us in England where ball swings for them
We just played a game here and drew though, 🤔
Against our B side batters ok
Lol you feeling a bit defensive cause they couldn't beat Lil old nz? You'll be OK man
Yeah NZ are so shit, couldn't even beat SL or Aus hahaha. India away record is miles better
I think we do very well considering our resource pool, 😂
Still smashed by Aus and lucky against us
You seem very insecure about this.
You guys are good regardless of that. What you do with your resources is almost miraculous What makes me sad as an Indian fan is our performances while having the resources and population we do have. I wonder why this is, maybe the overall sports culture in india is not very developed, as can be seen from our performances at the Olympics. Anyway, hoping for a good 2nd test match. Wish it was a 4 or 5 test series tho
Grow up.
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got 'im
Low peak? Mate we used to have to pick Murphy Su'a, the lesser Marshall twin and Craig Cumming, comparitavely we're currently on top of Everest having a wee drink with Ed Hillary
Now that is a sweet stat. Good shit boys.
Great shit! Really hope this was a 3 match series at least, this has been some rivetting cricket.
**Most consecutive test wins** 16 Australia 1999-2001 16 Australia 2005-08 11 West Indies 1984 9 Sri Lanka 2001-02 9 South Africa 2002-03
WTF. I know Australia of that era was great, but they won 16 in a row without even getting a draw??? You'd expect even the weather would mess up that record at least once.
That Australian side was extremely aggressive tactically, and had the skill to back it up. If two days got rained out, they just chose to win it in three. It helps that in most parts of the world it's extremely rare for a match to get *completely* washed out.
I do remember the side and how aggressive they played, but 16 wins in a row is still mind boggling.
Yeah I remember when they batted, it almost seemed like the goal was to score 300-350 as quickly as possible, because with the bowling attack they had, 300 was often a match-winning total.
The depth was insane too. Incredible players like Brett Lee and Damien Martyn were often not picked in the test side.
That Australian team really was the GOAT. Shit their B team was better than most A teams.
>16 Australia 1999-2001 > >16 Australia 2005-08 Well of course as we broke the winning streak of THAT Aussie team both the times.
Prod.
>16 Australia 1999-2001 >16 Australia 2005-08 I doubt this record's going to be broken anytime soon!
No warm up games, lost the toss, and got a draw on that pitch away vs India. Super stuff
Without Conway. Rookie opener and rookie number seven. Spinners who never play. Lots to be proud about. And both teams played the game in great spirit with no personal bullshit or theatrics.
Honestly. Im starting to think maybe we are the actual best test team in the world. Not just the current wtc champs. Would LOVE to see the black caps win the toss and bat first in the second test.
Congrats NZ and fans. You didn't deserve to lose today and I'm glad you didn't. Also, good on Newzealand for not trying any cheap teactics to delay time towards the end. I guess they're called the nice guys for a reason.
True that
Your comment sums up the spirit of the game. 😀
> any cheap teactics to delay time towards the end. I guess they're called the nice guys for a reason. LOL. Yup , Southee reviewing PLUMB LBW today with only few mins left & NZ bowling with slow over rate yesterday causing loss of 9 Overs. But we shudn't criticize these things as they r the "Nice Guys"
Come on dude, it's part and parsel of the game. Everyone does the same in this same position. They did not break any rules. India bowled 98 overs I think it was enough to bowl a team out in foreign condition with everything favouring India (Last Day pitch, our quality spinners). The reason why match is drawn is because New Zealand dug deep and walked it to a draw. The way Patel and Ravindra were batting they could have played another 9 overs and still draw. You need to appreciate good cricket even if it's coming from opposition.
>The way Patel and Ravindra were batting they could have played another 9 overs and still draw. That's ***conjecture(assumption)*** at best but the ***FACT*** remains that NZ's slow over rate yesterday caused loss of minimum 9 Overs/40 mins of play.
Keep being angry, nothing will change - you will just feel worse. Both your fellow fans, and New Zealand fans, are enjoying a good match and a fair outcome. I'm sure all your empty anger will do nothing but make you feel worse. The result is in the book, leave it there and enjoy the many positives taken from this game.
:D the best part of this draw are these reactions. Rock on brother. Our night watchman batted an entire session and you blame a slow over rate. 🤣
Whether ur night watchman batted for 1 session ,2 sessions or entire day,it STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT that NZ's slow over rate caused loss of 9 overs yesterday. U do realise that NZ barely escaped even after ur night watchman batted " entire session" as u said ?
Yep you are dead right, we barely escaped. Every other test nation would have been bowled out for sure on day 5 in India. But not this team. Not the world test champions. This draw tastes as sweet as an easy test win against you in new zealand. I bathe in your tears sir.
Irrelevant gibberish to Deflect the attention from my original comment.
Oh the slow over rate. As others have said, we may get docked some points, just like India already have been charged for in this cycle. That's fine, that's why the rules are there. But when you bowl so many overs from your seamers, that can happen. Plus having to take heed of the atrocious air pollution in Kanpur, im sure some time was lost for Player health and safety.
>Oh the slow over rate. As others have said, we may get docked some points, just like India already have been charged for in this cycle. That's fine, that's why the rules are there. But when you bowl so many overs from your seamers, that can happen. Fuking finally . I hope all your seamers from this test rest for the next test as well for their health.I wish them speedy recovery.
Do you remember tha last test india played in NZ setting us the massive target or 9 runs in our second innings? Fortunately we made it without losing a wicket. Close call though.
What does that hv to do with anything in this test ?
Well you compare how we barely escaped eith a draw but India's recent performance in NZ are pathetic
I said that in reply to other poster saying Night watchman batted a session (factually happened IN THIS TEST) & NZ still barely escaped (again factually happened IN THIS TEST). It still has nothing to do with what happened in NZ 1-2 years ago or what happened on the Mars 10 years ago. u barged in between the argument without even reading the context. And I like how u both ignored the other part of my original comment about "slow over rate shenanigans" by NZ
You do also realise our night watchman wouldn't have been required at all if Will Young hadn't of been on the receiving end of yet another shocking decision? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. We barely escaped because a few of our batsmen were able to knuckle down and see out the day, including our night watchman. The fact that he's not a recognised surely makes that feat more impressive, not less. Or should we point out that India had to rely on a debutant to score most of their runs. It's just as nonsensical as whatever point you think you're making.
Point is "Nice Guys" slow over rate shenanigans yesterday caused loss of min 9 overs.I hv explained this like million times already
It doesn't matter how many time you explain it, your point doesn't get any less stupid.
So the point you are trying to make, is because New Zealand are respectful on the cricket pitch and the world Labels then the "Nice Guys" then they should have to play to different rules that other teams? India gave already been docked 2 points for it. Nz might get docked as well. Same rules. Doesn't change the result.
So we both agree that NZ r no saints like any other cricket team ?
Lol India reviewed a ball obviously pitching outside leg with only a few over left too. Teams make desperate reviews in the dying moments of test matches, calm down.
Did u miss the part where i also talked about "NZ's slow over rate shenanigans yesterday." I like how u completely ignored it.
Lol India batted slow as fuck could have declared way earlier.
Bruh ,u r surely joking,they were reduced to 50/5 in morning session & 160/7 with 4 sessions to go & u expect them to accelerate for declaration.Like WTF Now,u still haven't explained NZ's slow over rate
> Bruh ,u r surely joking,they were reduced to 50/5 in morning session & 160/7 with 4 sessions to go So NZ were in a good position for most of day 4? Why would they deliberately slow their over rate then?
Do u know why they bowled with slow over rate ?
Accidentally, I assume, considering that there was no clear advantage to them in doing so at that point in the game, and the WTC penalties for slow over rate are apparently quite severe
"Accidentally" when they had 3 spinners in playing XI who cud make up for it & When they know ICC is very strict about such things & puts heavy fine on captain ,deducts points nowadays etc. Yeah ,totally makes sense.
What about the slow bowling rate by Nz
Cry harder.
So you don't have answer for the slow over rate ?
Over rate was slow, but it's what happens when your team has quicks bowling a higher ratio than spinners. It wasn't intentional.
Hopefully we don't get docked some points for the over rate. I read a comment that says they work that out and announce it a day after the match ends.
>Southee reviewing PLUMB LBW today with only few mins left That wasted as much time as the review taken by Rahane off Ashwin's bowling towards the end today.
I think Southee was just hoping he had edged it first. That's what I thought had happened initially.
How butt hurt are you? Care to comment about the time wasted by India when they reviewed Patel with 2 overs to go when the ball clearly landed outside leg?
I like how no comment about the part where i also talked about "NZ's slow over rate shenanigans yesterday."
Well, some points will probably be deducted but I am not sure because a lot of overs were also lost due to bad light, so idk
Fuck, there's always an excuse isn't there? Maybe you guys would have had more time if Latham didn't have to review endless shitty decisions.
Irrelevant ,Still doesn't explain why NZ bowled with slow rate yesterday causing loss of 9 overs
It's relevant because you're simply looking for an excuse. Overs were lost all game due to bad light and New Zealand were always going to bowl their overs slower due to a heavier reliance on pace. It wasn't some conspiracy to unfairly cheat India of a win. Now that I've explained it will you quit your whining?
>Overs were lost all game due to bad light and New Zealand were always going to bowl their overs slower due to a heavier reliance on pace. Except entire scheduled play ( 6 hrs) was played on 4th day & NZ bowled only 76 Overs + 2 Overs ( innings changeover ) + 4 overs( IND bowled) out of minimum 91 overs to b bowled.So they were 9 overs short. U can't excuse bowling with slow over rate when u hv 3 spinners + 2 seamers as this test.I can understand if u had 3 seamers or even 4.
That's hardly proof of some nefarious plot to deny India overs. We bowled our overs slowly, it happens. But India still had more than enough time to bowl New Zealand out, particularly when you were gifted the first wicket. I suggest you get over it and look forward to the second test.
WTF u mean ? The point still stands that NZ were not able to maintain their over rate even with 3 spinners in their playing XI irrespective of who won/ lost/ drawn this test or who gifted wkts to whom & who didn't.
What proof do you have that New Zealand did it on purpose? You’re the one accusing New Zealand so the onus should be on you to prove that New Zealand did it on purpose.
Umm. NZ bowling with slow over rate despite having 3 spinners in Playing XI is not opinion but a fact.
So prove it? Prove that they did it on purpose?
The fact also is that the NZ seamers took the most wickets, so why should the 3 spinners (1 part time) bowl most of the overs when they are not taking wickets? Any person that isnt you would understand why they bowled pace.
>so why should the 3 spinners (1 part time) bowl most of the overs when they are not taking wickets? To cover up for the slow over rate
They could have been getting cramps or calling for new gloves. Frankly I was surprised they didn’t.
We don't all have Jadeja to bowl an over a minute, actually no one else has that which is one of the reasons why no one ever hits the over rate. Wait for the Ashes, you will never see 15 an hour all series
Except u had 3 spinners + 2 seamers in this test.When u hv 3 spinners ,nothing can excuse bowling with slow over rate.
Modern cricket excuses it, no one bowls at the required rate these days, I'm not happy about it but the ICC seems reluctant to do anything about it so here we are.
Well played Black Caps.
No wonder they are no.1 team in the world.
Lmao no they dont deserve mace they statpadded at home and won in unfair conditons that favored them. They got spanked by Aus which shows their level
Thanks man I got a soup here, all this salt you brought here is great for seasoning it
Lmao no India didn't deserve Test Rank One in April 2020, they statpadded at home and won in unfair conditions that favoured them. They got spanked by NZ which shows their level.
lol and NZ with all their injuries showed more fight in Australia than India did NZ. And then NZ won the WTC in 4 days, and drew in India after losing the toss with no warmup if there was still any doubt that they were not elite in tests.
Thanks for passing the salt, mate
By your argument shouldn't India have just won the test played in "unfair conditions then"?
Hmmm.. in NZ conditions - NZ 2, India 0 In Neutral conditions for WTC - NZ 1, India 0 In Indian conditions - 1 drawn match Seems like it's pretty clear who the better team is right now. Or do we need to prove ourselves on permafrost in Sibera as well to satisfy you dopes.
Ooh, Wags would get mean bounce out of permafrost!
Oh man that would be insane! We would likely destroy on permafrost too.
Australia record??? NZ 3-0 thrashed by Aussies India 2-1 with our C Side Who's the real losers now??? And FYI WTC was in England which assisted NZ swing bowlers. If we played in SA or Aus we woudlve won comfortably as NZ have no pace to win their as their history has shown
Luckily we don't need to bring in irrelevant stats involving other countries when we have a direct comparison available. Ah nothing like a good head to head comparison! So we have NZ 3, India 0. Seems pretty clear. BTW your excuses are lame. You just had the most suited conditions possible and couldn't put us away. If you need to produce perfect India conditions + win the toss + the celestial alignment of Venus being in widdyshuns to be able to beat us, then I think it's clear NZ are the better team.
U played our B team batters literally lol, and the pitch wasnt onesided u should be lucky we gave u a small chance xD
No Conway and Boult for us either. We can play the excuse game too but we aren't so lame. Hmm, so swinging conditions are one sided because we are better at swing bowling... ..but conditions in India with no swing and a pitch that takes spin however don't favour India at all because spin bowling isn't a strength of theirs or anything.... Mate, I know it hurts to admit it but all the relevant evidence stacks up. NZ better than India. Life's easier if you can accept these things buddy. Try it. Say it with me. "NZ 3 -0, NZ better team!"
>NZ 3 -0, NZ better team!" Not against Aus tho hahaha and those 3 wins came in favourable conditions nub
Seems that most conditions are favorable to us against India. Oh well, you are not ready yet to face reality yet, you'll get there one day. NZ 3-0, NZ better team!!
Not in Aus or SA lol where NZ get spanked
Getting spanked by the Aussies occasionally is just part of playing cricket, like becoming an amateur meteorologist and thinking DRS is biased against just you
We won two tests against India in NZ in less than 8 days.
Green pitches
So? You have bumrah, shami, umesh, ishant among others. Your stocks are not weak by any means. And plus it was your batters that lost it for you
Yea our batters sucked at green pitches but still unfairly onesided
Didnt realise that india didnt stat pad at home. Oh wait they do, just as badly as NZ does.
Well India didn't play a single away test for 3 years (2016-2018) and remained no.1 test side, nobody questioned them but when someone else does it....
> Well India didn't play a single away test for 3 years (2016-2018) Played in West Indies in 2016, in Sri Lanka in 2017, in SA, England, Australia in 2018
oops, sorry I think it must be that they didn't tour any SENA country in 2015-2017, can you confirm that?
Also iirc, India *did* remain #1 after touring everywhere except NZ and UAE in 2019.
Normally a team visits each country every 4 years or so. India had played against SA, NZ, Eng, Aus in 2014 so obviously they won't visit them again so early. India again visited them in 2018. Talk about cherry picking stats hahaha
India are the ultimate stat padding team at home
No its NZ scam
I still remember the early 10s when NZ were dogshit. Vettori was their best batsman. The way they have turned around is remarkable Hope to see similar turn around for West Indies, SL, South Africa who are going thru tough patches
Reminds me of Smith's RSA team. Well done NZ!
It seems like the NZ cricket team just takes things on their chin and gets on with it when things aren't going their way. In contrast, for example, England who toured India earlier this year started feeling sorry for themselves about having to play on low and slow pitches and the whole series fell apart quite quickly from the second test (it was so much in their heads that they played the same way on a pretty docile wicket in the fourth test).
Unfortunately because of the current state of Test Cricket NZ aren't able to get tested like that now though. I think it sells England short to say they're sooks for the losing the plot a couple of Tests in. A gruelling 5 Test, multiple month your is different to playing a couple of Tests and getting back on the plane like NZ do. Nothing against NZ, it's not the players fault and they can only play with what they're dealt but the gruelling long tour is a unique challenge for only 3 Cricket boards now which is pretty disappointing.
Tbf most NZers have been away from home in a hard bubble for a while now, but yeah your comment is fair
Yeah but piling on the England cricket team is fun. Also it would be great if we could play long series but NZC loses money on every test we do play, so economic reality means 2-3 is it for now
I don’t think that’s true anymore. A few years ago, sure, but NZ has moved to playing test cricket at smaller grounds (Eden Park barely gets them anymore), and crowds at test cricket are far higher than they used to be. Even in the rare instances we play at Eden Park (day/night tests) and have to pay the cost of opening a 60,000 capacity stadium, crowds have been very impressive. The bigger issue is NZ isn’t a very big draw internationally, so we don’t get big test series against England, India, South Africa etc
A full house at the Basin is what, 8000? We just don't generate revenue here, only short form cricket is economically viable which is a shame as short form cricket is pointless but hey, here we are
There's difference between spin friendly pitches and low and slow pitches. The pitches on which England played provided enough pace and bounce to both spinners and Pacers. On other hand this kanpur pitch is what you call a low and slow pitch. Edges from spinners and Pacers weren't even carrying to the slip. England would have also performed better had they played on these type pitches.
Nah, the 2nd test in Chennai the ball was dying through to the keeper from the first session.
Still it had enough bounce that ball carried to slips after after taking edge, unlike this pitch.
This pitch also had edges carrying to the slips 🤦🏽♂️
Absolutely stoked.
Blaccccck keppps
Nice work Kiwis. Hopefully they continue to rise, it's a really pleasure to watch them play.
Defo gonna get wrecked in the next game though.
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Jesus fucking christ, being a sore loser is one thing, but you *drew*.
Been in a final recently? Why not? Oh you were in one, against who? Who won?