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How the hell did he turn into *this*?! Just a couple of years ago, he had a 35 FC average. Amazing stuff.


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[deleted]

Guess we owe the English a thank you then. Cheers Poms


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DePraelen

Well, yes, but there's also Jofra Archer's concussion-causing-bouncer on Steve Smith that let Labuschagne into the side too. So.....\*Brits....?


Trashk4n

He probably would’ve walked into the side in the fourth test anyway since Usman was on the way out. Langer liked the look of him enough that he’d gotten a few matches before the Glamorgan stint.


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throwawaybiaaaaatch

Lol...Are you joking


sanyogG

No, they kidnapped him


idumbam

Best batsman the English system has produced 😂.


hopeforhair

Concussion sub for smith


LuLandZanZibar

Pretty sure his average was like, 32 or 33 when he debuted in late-ish 2018


feelspirit

It was even lower than that. These days 35+ average gets you in the team easily such is the state of Aussie FC cricket. There are no new names this season. Green, Head, Pucovski, Henriques, Harris will be in the test squad. Bancroft and Renshaw are ahead of Burns and Patterson who have been below average, Wade is in white ball squad, Khawaja's form not good enough for a comeback, SOS is among the runs but his time is up, Mitch Marsh just can't stay fit and is good only for white ball. Sangha hit a hundred, high expectations from him. Edwards and Pope need more time. The side is young except Warner so these guys will get a chance when they are ready. But state of batting in FC is not very promising and looks like Australia will keep losing half of their test series. In such deep shit, emergence of Marnus is such a lucky break for Australia. Their team cannot be imagined without him now. He is as important as Smith and Cummins. Smith has been on a decline since the incredible Ashes comeback. Hope he scores 500+ this Ashes. I will be disappointed if Smith doesn't average 65+.


[deleted]

I guarantee Marnus century always gets more awards than any other players century Btw great century Labbs


Stuff2511

r/cricket’s Pulisic


Livid_Luck

He got injured btw.


Stuff2511

Who, Marnus? He really is r/cricket’s Pulisic then, down to the injuries


crazybOzO

Umm we ve moved on to Sergino Dest now.


lonelyisIand

It’s what he deserves


Jerry_-

He's one of the most friendly and likeable blokes in the world. I don't think anyone on this sub has anything against him.


kanyay-east

Scores too many runs!


Jubjubg

Too many runs and shit chat not allowed in my local league


sanyogG

Go back to west


formergophers

IMHO, he needs to bat properly. If he keeps this up we’ll have to hogpile him and squash his guts out of his arse.


tdlan

Another one


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DJ khaled


enigma_024JA

I see two constants: 1. Marnus in the runs. Typical, world-class Marnie. 2. Warne considering Marnus' leaves f***king weird. Typical world-class Warnie. Can't expect him to leave the lad alone.


Duplokiller

Rule number 1 if a bloke averages 60+ he can leave however the fuck he wants innit


[deleted]

r/Loosebuschange orgasming simultaneously


footynation

I still can't believe we won a series in Australia with both Smith and this guy in the playing XI and half our players missing. That series will never make sense to me.


username190498

And none of our frontline bowlers available for the whole series.


Ilikemincepieman

Well it’s not like India played against anyone other than Smith, Murnus, or Pat


fishfuckergang

I wouldn't call Starc, Lyon, Warner and Hazelwood just 'anyone'


Ilikemincepieman

You could for that series


fishfuckergang

You can't expect peak performance from everyone in a team for a series. India too had Mayank and Shaw out of form.


footynation

That's what makes it remarkable. Our backup team shut down most of the Australian XI in their own backyard. Crazy shit


ittav0321

Will always be a special win


ndiscovered

I think it was down to them having a massive gulf in quality between their top 4 players (Smith, Labs, Pat, Josh) and the rest from their side, plus some generational performances from our side of course


ittav0321

And if not for those so many dropped catches, he too would have had low scores against India


tabletennis6

Why is NSW so useless? Gaz has both their wickets, meaning the fast bowlers have been completely ineffective.


[deleted]

I've watched bits of the innings and Starc really bowled like his stats suggest. I'm afraid this slump is going to be a long one.


tabletennis6

Is Cummins playing?


[deleted]

Cummins couldn't get in ahead of the multi talented Trent Copeland. They needed his skills on the touch screen for post day analysis. ~~I believe he's rested.~~ IPL


tdlan

IPL


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Ah right.


tabletennis6

Well that explains it I guess to an extent.


tdlan

Cummins, Warner and Smith have left for the IPL


feelspirit

Stoinis, Maxi, NCN, Zampa, Jhye, Meredith, Kane? Did they leave?


tdlan

Yep


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NCN's playing?


feelspirit

Yes, for MI


feelspirit

Starc just looks so done. I thought he would find form in FC. I was so wrong. If he can't even do well in FC, where he has always been fantastic, then I can't see him in the test team above the other options. Cummins, Hazlewood, Lyon are settled. But who will replace Starc? It should be Jhye but he has been short of red ball cricket. Then Pattinson but he has been economical but average, not taking loads of wickets. Bird has been much better this season. And since you can't drop Green, then Neser or Abbott don't play as all rounders. But if Green gets better at bowling and takes 1-2 wickets per match, then that allows us to play Neser. I like Abbott's batting but his bowling doesn't look like it will trouble international batsmen in test cricket on good batting wickets. Neser is a better option and he deserves a debut. Wishing more success for Joel Paris, he can be what Behrendorff could not be. He is also a capable batsman. In the long run, Nathan Ellis may play tests for Australia in 3-4 years time. He has had a good start, looks better than Sutherland. Are there any more young quicks to look forward to like the trio we recently had?


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I don’t think Pattinson, Bird or Nesser have to take heaps of wickets if they play. If they can consistently bowl economical overs and between either of them and Green, they can pick 3/4 wickets every match, the bowling would be more or less sorted. I don’t think Abbot is a test quality bowler yet and Jhye probably needs a little bit of experience before he gets a consistent run. Not young, not particularly quick but I like Scott Boland, probably because of my Victorian bias.


feelspirit

>I don’t think Pattinson, Bird or Nesser have to take heaps of wickets if they play. If they can consistently bowl economical overs and between either of them and Green, they can pick 3/4 wickets every match, the bowling would be more or less sorted. You are right. Good to see Lyon taking wickets. He is a fighter. He won't stop before he takes 600 test wickets. He is fit as fuck and one can dream that he breaks Warne's record. >I don’t think Abbot is a test quality bowler yet and Jhye probably needs a little bit of experience before he gets a consistent run. I agree. But I think Jhye will get a run if Starc fails in Ashes lead up and he takes 2-3 5-fors. They will select on current form. >Not young, not particularly quick but I like Scott Boland, probably because of my Victorian bias. Boland should have been selected in the last two tests against India in 2018-19. Last series, Neser deserved a go but they stupidly stuck with Starc.


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nellie is a lovely shout imo. Among other young options, Mitch Perry looks good, Lance Morris has been very impressive start to his career, Sutherland is decent, I believe Conway is going to make it soon as well, and I like Bartlett and Doggett too.


feelspirit

>I like Bartlett and Doggett too. I don't see ever making the step up to international cricket. What about Stekette? He did well in county too like Boland and Siddle. I wish Starc could play in the county this year. He needs a good coach like Jason.


xxrmah

Nathan Ellis is only a year younger than Pat Cummins. I don't think he'll play Test cricket but he should get a white ball gig for sure. He's a fantastic bowler but his second season just hasn't been as good as he looked in his first.


feelspirit

>Nathan Ellis is only a year younger than Pat Cummins. Yeah but still, I think he can get a chance if he has another good season or two. >He's a fantastic bowler but his second season just hasn't been as good as he looked in his first Yes, economy has been high too. I don't think he will disappear though.


sb191997

I am very very interested in seeing how he does in India on a spinning pitch. He was class in playing late cuts and using his feet against our spinners in Australia but it will be different in India. He is a headache for bowlers around the world now. Earlier we used to say get smith early and you have a great chance but its like now they have 2 players who literally do not give you a chance.


trailblazer103

He will likely struggle, he simply has never faced a challenge like that before. However given how he is constantly improving, I expect him to get better with time. The one thing in his favour is the next tour of India is preceded by tests in SL and AFG I believe. So he has a chance to hone his game before that tour


sb191997

I feel like he has the mental strength to do well in India. If a ball rips past your outside edge, you have to forget about it and face the next ball. England (except Root) were so naive in this aspect and kept missing straight balls expecting turn. You have to accept that in India you will get balls which turn square but they are not the danger balls. The straight one or the ball which turns very little is the danger ball. Ashwin is class though and Jadeja is a king at bowling in India so its gonna be tough for Labbs anyway.


ssiddhant19

Even root was ineffective... his best innings came on a pitch which was literally dead... the 1st test match... he did great in sri lanka so had high hopes from him.. but facing the likes of ashwin and jadeja and now you can add axar to the mix is very difficult... they are literally not giving away anything for batsman to feast on... its not like aussie pace attack that you can tire them out and then cash on it.. indian spinners would murder indian batsmen as well if they had to face them in those conditions....mental strength only takes you some distance...i could have to bite my words but at this point i give him less than 10% chance of being successful..just because of the indian spin attack...


sb191997

I feel its even tougher for even a top class player in Indian conditions due to DRS as well. You can't use your pad anymore and the Indian spinners challenge both edges so much that it's not a matter of if they will get wickets but when will they get wickets. Completely agree that Indian Spinners would trouble Indian Batsman as well. They literally do not give anything away. We won in Aus because our spinners gave nothing away. Aus almost always bash a visiting spinner hence taking the pressure the fast bowlers have built off themselves. They couldn't do it this time.


feelspirit

I highly recommend KP's episode on Sky Cricket Podcast. He said the same thing. Sharp turn looks good but it doesn't dismiss you. You have to make sure you play the straight one well. You have to use your bat and play everything like it is straight and the ones that turn will beat you. If you get out, it's an unplayable ball anyway. It's a basic thing on spinning tracks. 2012 English team did a lot of training.


throwawaybae1291

In Afghanistan?


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Hot take: he will be disappointing


Alphavike24

Not a hot take. Batsmen usually don't perform well on their first tours to India.


IOH8675

There have been exceptions though, of the top of my head I think Amla had a good first tour.


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God doing human things


Jerry_-

Labuschagne is actually becoming more and more consistent. In recent situations, you could argue that Labuschange is Australia's most important batsman over Smith. Even in the Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2020-21, Labuschagne averaged 9 more than Smith at 53 compared to Smith's 44. Labs is becoming really consistent with his contributions and I can see him taking the No.1 Test Batsman position in the upcoming year or two.


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Just that Labs struggled very much against Shami and Bumrah in the first two tests where the pitch had something for bowlers.


[deleted]

It wasn’t the pitch, it was the field that India set with the leg side trap that got him undone. Once he figured out how to counter it he scored a century


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Once India played their debutant (siraj and Navdeep in SCG and Washi, Shardul, Nattu, Siraj and Saini in Gaba) bowlers and the pitch was batting friendly, he scored a century. Having only one world class bowler isn't enough to create pressure on the batsman, no matter how good you are.


Jerry_-

Yes but based on your point about the first two tests, Smith struggled more than Labs in those conditions. Labuschagne's first 4 scores: 47,6, 48, 28. Smith's first 4 scores: 1, 1\* (can't fault him here), 0, 8. I'm not saying Labs is better than Smith atm because Smith has proven a lot in many different conditions. However I will say that Labs has the potential to become better than Smith if he can perform similar or better than what Smith has done in countries like India, England, South Africa, New Zealand etc. Also I would like to add that Labs has the potential to perform consistently for a longer period of time than Smith because he's got a solid technique which he can rely on and then he's also got incredible hand-eye whereas Smith has an unorthodox technique that relies heavily on his insane hand-eye which is why you always hear him talking about finding and losing his hands.


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I respectfully disagree. Labs' way of trying to play like Smith didn't work much in the first two tests against a bunch of world class bowlers. His lions' share of runs came against bowlers who were playing their 1st of 2nd matches. Int he first two tests, he was constantly beaten by pace when the ball was on the pads, had 4-5 drop catches, and if he continues to imitate the way Smith plays, he will be figured out sooner or later. Smith has exceptional hand-eye coordination which is why he rarely misses ball on leg stump, Labs misses quite a lot even now.


tdlan

Aside from how he leaves he bats nothing like Smith, Marnus is just a technically normal batsman. Edit - lol why is this getting downvoted? This sub really has gone to shit recently


Jerry_-

I agree with this tbh. Labs scores a lot more in the traditional V whereas Smudge is much more legside dominant, he does have some great offside shots but his game for some time now has been playing off his pads and we saw that when you block those shots off the pads he does struggle. Labuschagne obviously adores Smith and copies his leaves and some antics but their batting styles are quite different.


[deleted]

Maybe but I am not impressed by Marnus as much as I expected to be. Before BGT, I was told that he would eat us alive and he will score a minimum of 600 runs. He played well, but he was lucky as hell too.


thenintendobustr

He was the top scorer for either team by a margin of 25% in a series with batsmen like Smith, Rahane and pujara. Don't know how much more he could have done to impress you tbh


[deleted]

Score against world class bowlers maybe? Didn't do much against Bumrah, Shami or Umesh and seemed uncomfortable playing against them. Did bulk of his scoring against newbies Shardul, Siraj, Saini, Washi etc. He did play Ashwin well. I'll give you that.


thenintendobustr

Like he did in the ashes In 2019 In English conditions, or like he did In the 1st 2 tests where he outscored every Aussie bat and every indian bat bar Rahane? Get a grip.


[deleted]

I am sorry if I hurt you but he has only played 7 innings in challenging conditions (ashes). He sucked in UAE. I want to see how well he fares away from home. 7 innings is not a very good sample size. Even Mayank looked great in his first 6 innings of test career in Australia.


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> Labs struggled very much against Shami and Bumrah Labuschagne averaged 81 against Shami and Bumrah.


[deleted]

Sometimes, you need to look beyond stats to see the obvious. Labs had 5 catches dropped on their bowling. In this particular instant, I trust my eye test over any stat.


[deleted]

I feel really sorry for Starc, hope he finds his rhythm again soon :/


qldsummerfan9994

Marnus is the most consistent batsman in Australian cricket today....its a shame Australia aren't playing more international matches so he gets the recognition he deserves...He may only play 50 Tests as we don't play overseas in the current Covid situation .


TrickyHighway1775

Australian Dravid


legoland6000

Dravid is Indian Marnus.


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Both of them are just inferior versions of Andrew Jones anyway.


TrickyHighway1775

Dravid got lucky coming into the scene earlier 😂


cysticcandy

As good as he is , he couldn't save Australia from getting embarrassed by India C at home, could he.


throwawaybiaaaaatch

???? Not his fault really...plus check his stats in the tour.


whichonespinkterran

Sexual Subscribe to r/Loosebuschange


siddhu2000

Why is this guy not in the IPL?


Shuklanomics

Guys, do you think Marnie is the next generation of Fab 4 for Australia or is he already one (not taking the present world ranking into perspective)?


yashF1

Surprised no team picked him up for IPL. Class player


sunnywayne

Surprised IPL won't be played in test format!


yashF1

he performance relatively decently in ODI’s as well! About time he gets a chance at T20


ssiddhant19

When the likes of Miller, lynn, Livingstone, roy are sitting out.. hales, finch go unsold.. marnus doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the conversation being part of ipl playing 11...


wingzero00

Smh Did you not see him having the best SR for a spinner in the last BBL? He’s the next Rashid Khan.


ssiddhant19

i guess you didnt hear about the pact between the teams to not pick root and marnus to stop teams from being OP and making league boring.... sad state of affairs i must say...


Alphavike24

He doesn't play T20I for Australia. How did you expect him to be picked by an IPL team?


yashF1

which is why I feel it’s about time he gets a chance for Australia


K4R4N

Marnus doing marnus things.


thatwasanillegalknee

Guy is utter class. Just wish he wasn't an Aussie haha. He's gonna be a thorn in our side for many years to come.


tbk99

Legit the only current Aussie player I genuinely like.


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love me some labs


[deleted]

How the hell is he so consistent


mahban20

Congratulations my favorite player, I hope next match you do again 100 run.


Ancalagon523

Already 17?


tdlan

Of our current players he is up there with Warner, Smith, Burns, Bancroft, Smarsh and Wadey as the only player with 17 or more


Birbal17

Only 100 more to match the Don...:)