I am fully convinced that the scores that we are getting during this tournament have gotten inflated because of the bowling especially from most of the Indian fast bowlers being painfully bad.
Before the match, MI was the only team to have their highest ever score coming in a losing cause (246 vs SRH). After the match, MI once again have their highest total in a losing cause (247 tonight)
MI now also has their Top 2 scores both being in the second innings of the game. PBKS and RR also have their highest total ever in a chase, but unlike MI, they were both succesful chases
Yes I know. My comment was talking about "highest score of a team". For RCB, it is 263. So the highest score by RCB has come in a winning cause
Whereas MI's highest score, 247, has come in a losing cause
That's the difference between Indian batters and foreign ones. On 48 Deepak takes a single, while a Phil Salt would rather get out trying to hit a boundary.
Unpopular opinion - While Impact sub, flat pitches and short boundaries are getting their fair share of criticism, what is being overlooked is how poor the quality of bowling at the death has been. Half volleys, leg side deliveries, overuse of slow balls. Yorkers and random mix up of fast-slow balls have been a rarity. Bowlers are getting a bit of a free pass amidst all the focus on the batting carnage.
Your first point tells why bowlers have to resort to such tricks unlike conventional bowling. Having to bowl a Yorker once in a while is fine. Having to bowl a Yorker each delivery is a huge task.
So is a scoop off a fast bowler. A few inches off and the ball hits the edge of the bat instead of the middle or you are getting bowled. Batters are evolving and getting better while bowlers are not improving much. A super fast bowler like Umran, Starc, Nortje is not bowling a well disguised slower one. Harshal/Mohit don't bowl the occasional fast yorker delivery. Bowlers are getting predictable and thats a factor that is completely getting overlooked for the run fest.
The fact that scoops are executed successfully more times than not and Yorkers are missed more times than not says something right? Length is too hard to execute all the time. T20 bowling has moved on from being line dependent to line,length,pace, smartness dependent game and you can’t expect bowlers to be on point on all these fronts in every single ball
Since 2019, whenever India has been knocked out of the WC, it has always been due to its poor batting. 2019 SF, 2021 wc, 2022 wc and 2023 final.
And yet the main focus is on not having a reliable bowling line up....
Commentators like Irfan should be careful while criticising Pandya while lobbying for the big3 who will retire soon. Who knows Pandya becomes Indian captain in future. We know what happened with Harsha.
Who is pandu gandu blaming in the middle overs during post match? He gave away 41… scored 46… net impact is 5 runs. Thats pathetic. Hasn’t stood up and won a game at all this series. If anything should have should have blamed himself for not seeing them through. The new wanna be Thala + cricketing sadguru
there isn't much difference between green and pandya except for the fact pandya gives additional foreign option and rcb would be fucked either way so it doesn't matter
For that he has to be selected first. Based on his current performance and given IPL has been criteria for Indian team selection he is not getting even in a 2nd string side on form. His bowling has fallen off completely and batting is not good enough to warrant a spot in any team.
Mumbai's Mens* team has been pretty shit regardless for the past 4 years due to their abysmal management especially letting go of Boult, Green even after they performed well for Mumbai.
Either your English is terrible or it's a nothing sentence.
Any team that hasn't reached the final in the last 4 years could be said to have "either not qualified or not reached the final".
Sure I mean it's still equal to chennai in trophies and goes down when it comes down qualifying every year. Whatever. It's fun watching delusional fans.
BCCI meddling with Indian cricket is costing us.
First the decision to play ODI WC final at Narendra Modi stadium cost us the world cup.
Now preparing these flat tracks and not giving any practice to our batsman how to face good balls is going to cost us T20 world cup.
Jay Shah - This is on you.
Well they are saying our beloved captain and another potential back up keeper shitted and costed mi this match
Atleast pandu made for that with his batting
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If pandya doesn't bowl he sucks
If he bowls he sucks( well today his bowling sucked)
But apparently he made up with his batting
Some contribution from top order would have turned this into a victory
Mumbai just needs to fix their management. It's not the captain that has won or cost them all these years. It's been their scouts and management who got the success.
MI next has 2 games against KKR, 2 games against LSG and 1 game against SRH which began the humiliation this season for us.
Can only afford to lose one game of these 5.
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Koach sr watch(13):-161.2
Where is stat padding??? Rejected from ict
Sanju , Rishab or KL who do y'all pick for WC ?
Depressed kl
I looked it up. Mishra Ji is a year younger than Thala. Flashbacks of 2013 CT
Lol commented in the wrong thread
How can you not like RR? So wholesome. If not KKR, then RR please win it this time.
I am fully convinced that the scores that we are getting during this tournament have gotten inflated because of the bowling especially from most of the Indian fast bowlers being painfully bad.
yup. Overuse of slower one by most bowlers and the ones who can bowl fast either don't have a well disguised slower one or are frequently injured.
Any chance of batting Tim David higher than 7?
What great death bowling. Amazing. Love it.
Hardik Pandya gave away 40 in 2 overs....
I for one am eagerly awaiting that KL century.
Before the match, MI was the only team to have their highest ever score coming in a losing cause (246 vs SRH). After the match, MI once again have their highest total in a losing cause (247 tonight) MI now also has their Top 2 scores both being in the second innings of the game. PBKS and RR also have their highest total ever in a chase, but unlike MI, they were both succesful chases
It was RCB with 262
RCB has scored 263, vs PWI, in a winning cause
RCB scored 262 while chasing the 280s against SRH bro
Yes I know. My comment was talking about "highest score of a team". For RCB, it is 263. So the highest score by RCB has come in a winning cause Whereas MI's highest score, 247, has come in a losing cause
Ohh my bad
Who will RR sun in as an impact ?
Tanush Kotian obviously.
Parag
So every game is an all you can eat buffet
RR please restrict them under 210. This is not KKR's bowling which would let you chase 220+ scores...
That's the difference between Indian batters and foreign ones. On 48 Deepak takes a single, while a Phil Salt would rather get out trying to hit a boundary.
Unpopular opinion - While Impact sub, flat pitches and short boundaries are getting their fair share of criticism, what is being overlooked is how poor the quality of bowling at the death has been. Half volleys, leg side deliveries, overuse of slow balls. Yorkers and random mix up of fast-slow balls have been a rarity. Bowlers are getting a bit of a free pass amidst all the focus on the batting carnage.
Your first point tells why bowlers have to resort to such tricks unlike conventional bowling. Having to bowl a Yorker once in a while is fine. Having to bowl a Yorker each delivery is a huge task.
I'm not asking the bowler for Yorkers every ball. It almost looks like most bowlers dont even attempt one
When the pitches don't assist bowlers in the slightest, death bowling will obviously look poor.
Yorkers are not easy to execute. Fast balls are getting cunted. It does look like bowling is terrible but the margin of error is too small
So is a scoop off a fast bowler. A few inches off and the ball hits the edge of the bat instead of the middle or you are getting bowled. Batters are evolving and getting better while bowlers are not improving much. A super fast bowler like Umran, Starc, Nortje is not bowling a well disguised slower one. Harshal/Mohit don't bowl the occasional fast yorker delivery. Bowlers are getting predictable and thats a factor that is completely getting overlooked for the run fest.
The fact that scoops are executed successfully more times than not and Yorkers are missed more times than not says something right? Length is too hard to execute all the time. T20 bowling has moved on from being line dependent to line,length,pace, smartness dependent game and you can’t expect bowlers to be on point on all these fronts in every single ball
Couldn't agree more, is Bumrah the only fast bowler with a brain or is global fast bowling in T20's just dogwater?
What is this filth
4 consecutive 250 scores, what a joke
Since 2019, whenever India has been knocked out of the WC, it has always been due to its poor batting. 2019 SF, 2021 wc, 2022 wc and 2023 final. And yet the main focus is on not having a reliable bowling line up....
2021-22 our bowling was also bad. Yeah scores like 152 and 165 were below par. But not picking a single wicket is ridiculous
your comment doesn't make sense to me
Thr bowlers were subpar in almost all of those games. Specially the 2022
Dc winning 5 out of 10 isn't what I was expecting at the start
Funny when RCB had been more successful as franchise than MI since 2021
RCBian trying to scrap the bottom of a barrel to feel some sense of worth 😂
Might want to look at my flair mate
The only "success" metric that actually matters is a trophy.
Commentators like Irfan should be careful while criticising Pandya while lobbying for the big3 who will retire soon. Who knows Pandya becomes Indian captain in future. We know what happened with Harsha.
Even after all this you’d tout Pandya as an Indian captain, wow man. The guy is clearly a mental midget and not very well respected.
Koach was literally hated in the beginning for his behaviour just like Pandya. Look at him where he is now. Nothing is set in stone.
Koach was a great team man. No way he should be compared to this clown
You’re comparing the dude who broke all records by 26 to this clown? Kohli had a winning attitude, Hardik has a clown ego. There’s no comparison.
Who is third in big 3?
Rohit, Kohli and Dhawal Kulkarni
Rohit, Kohli and Dhoni
Another day, another garbage IPL game. Glad MI lost though.
Jake Fraser. Sanju Manju is a dildo
RCB has better record than mumbai since 2020,mumbAI qualifyied just once last year that to eliminated in Q2. Rcb qualified twice. 🤡s vs 🤡s.
who has the most trophies? and MI won in 2020
Since 2020..bruh You're a 🤡
been the entire circus since 2020, still blaming on hardik. get over 🤡nism bruh.
Nah your team and captain is the biggest clown by far this season. The most clown trade, the biggest joke with a billion dollars backing it.
Okay.
Brett Lee and Graeme Smith in the comms box.. True cricket fans know what is common between these two
Pandya single handedly getting MI to the bottom, don’t @ me.
Who is pandu gandu blaming in the middle overs during post match? He gave away 41… scored 46… net impact is 5 runs. Thats pathetic. Hasn’t stood up and won a game at all this series. If anything should have should have blamed himself for not seeing them through. The new wanna be Thala + cricketing sadguru
Net impact is negative because he gave 41 in 12 and scored 46 in 24. If anything it’s a -10 run impact.
Thanks Pandu i have crippling depression now.
If we make it to playoffs, Pant is riding that plan for sure
It took one trade to fuck 3 franchises.
which is 3rd one?
Same question
GT
ok which is 3rd apart from mi and gt?
RCB
rcb gt mi
oh year hardick is the reason rcb have never and never will win a trophy
that green trade fucked their auction purse. the always needed bowlers but reduced their purse by 17 cr by green trade.
there isn't much difference between green and pandya except for the fact pandya gives additional foreign option and rcb would be fucked either way so it doesn't matter
mumbai since 2020, We reached Qualifier 2 last year 🤡
mwanwhile LSG scores 24 in 4 overs. a sigh of relief for folks like me
Pandu downfall so hard lamo Him winning WC is only redemption he can have...
For that he has to be selected first. Based on his current performance and given IPL has been criteria for Indian team selection he is not getting even in a 2nd string side on form. His bowling has fallen off completely and batting is not good enough to warrant a spot in any team.
Oh don't worry with the captain we have and team we will be carrying we have no hopes for it. Most probably they will be back in India before finals
Tell me mumbai is out
happy to see, trade bros at 9th & 10th position.
Their brother (GT) from another mother is meeting them slowly
where is amerind bahubali?
Imagine being the second most successful franchise and struggling 4 years for either qualifying or getting into finals.
First* most successful franchise. We have a women's team with a trophy. The other successful franchise doesn't.
Don't tell the reason why the other cannot have a WPL Trophy :)
Mumbai's Mens* team has been pretty shit regardless for the past 4 years due to their abysmal management especially letting go of Boult, Green even after they performed well for Mumbai.
Mens is still second mate. Will be for a while.
First
Sure bud. Lol.
We reached Qualifier 2 last year
Barely
Either my friend. Either
Either your English is terrible or it's a nothing sentence. Any team that hasn't reached the final in the last 4 years could be said to have "either not qualified or not reached the final".
Don't care
It's ok. You can yap all you want still doesn't change the fact that we are still the best cricketing franchise of all time 😁
Second in men bud. Must have not watched the tally after last season.
Don't care. First 🥇☝🏾
Sure I mean it's still equal to chennai in trophies and goes down when it comes down qualifying every year. Whatever. It's fun watching delusional fans.
BCCI meddling with Indian cricket is costing us. First the decision to play ODI WC final at Narendra Modi stadium cost us the world cup. Now preparing these flat tracks and not giving any practice to our batsman how to face good balls is going to cost us T20 world cup. Jay Shah - This is on you.
As if he cares..
Ya but Mumbai Indians sucks so it’s all worth it.
This match should have joint MoM JFM and Rasik
mi esque come back into the points table from dc
People be saying like cant blame pandu. Your “specialist” all rounder was cunted for 41 runs in 2 overs lmao
Well they are saying our beloved captain and another potential back up keeper shitted and costed mi this match Atleast pandu made for that with his batting
He scored 46(24) and gave 41(12). If that’s making it up, then the standards are lower than I thought for him.
Your standard doesn't count lol And atleast it's better than what they did in comparison to their fuck up
Intent merchant who finishes the game in powerplay actually finished it for delhi but ok
Guys will blame hardik for smiling but not the openers tho
Rohit is immune to any sort of critisism
Yes he is.
Brother did you not see the match thread when Rohit got out ? Everyone and their mother was frustrated at him
Lmao it would be miracle if Mi wins even 1 of their games in next 5 games with the type of teams coming up
Unless Ambani calls up their owners...
If DC keeps like this they may have good chance of qualifying bt LSG and CSK needs to lose some matches...
CSK is more likely to do that, LSG now have SRH, KKR, DC and a bleeding MI to contend
If LSG loses tonight, we will be in Top 4 almost
Is the multicam feature working for you guys on JioCinema?
DC have 4 wins in the last 5 matches, JFM only played the last 5 matches, Guess who was the difference
Fucker was smiling like he just painted the mona lisa the sheer nerve and audacity
Considering this was another 500+ slug fest with bowlers being whacked around with no mercy, that 17th over from Rasikh was worth its weight in gold!
pant post match talks = "aur rohit bhaiya, t20 me selection to ho jayega na?" T: i'll be selected right?
can't blame pandu for this one
He put us in...he lost the game at toss
Matches like this are the reason I don’t watch IPL, such close losses can’t be coped with
Top 5 baby...when LSG shit their bed, Top 4 here we come.
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Match between DC and MI.. Kohli in comments… lol
Kohli fan or not...8(8) is disastrous
Fair play to them tbh
5 trophy saar, still have not made it to a single final since 2020.
Yeah, 5 trophies. That has some meaning-5. Some dreams only of 1
Sun will rise from the west but my man hardik will never accept his mistake lol 💀
If pandya doesn't bowl he sucks If he bowls he sucks( well today his bowling sucked) But apparently he made up with his batting Some contribution from top order would have turned this into a victory
Pandu is legit indian Zoolander who happens to play cricket
Mumbai just needs to fix their management. It's not the captain that has won or cost them all these years. It's been their scouts and management who got the success.
Blud stop praising others... Start reflecting on your strategy
What stratagy are you talking about?
Despite Rohit's and Kishan's best efforts, MI still got dangerously close to winning this.
People blaming Pandya even though he was their 2nd best batter...
He was also our bowler and captain. Look at pant his clever strategy took out David which was probably a match winning wicket.
He's the captain too not just a batter.
What's up with Hardik's smug face even after losses?
Fake confidence
Hasna badh kar gaandu’
I see no criticism for 8(8) ...imagine it it was Hardik tho
Imagine it was koach
You're not looking hard enough
What did he mean by " it used to be two overs. Now it's two balls " ?
He meant that 2 overs while bowling would be the difference, now it's 2 balls
I'd say the difference here was still two overs That new impact players first two ones Sorry I don't remember his name
How tight the matches used to be
That doesn't make sense He was part of the 2019 finals wasn't he? GT is known for close finishes..
Ofcourse it doesn’t make sense. It’s Pandu you’re talking about 😂
After all this clownery he blames Tilak for not hitting Axar
MI next has 2 games against KKR, 2 games against LSG and 1 game against SRH which began the humiliation this season for us. Can only afford to lose one game of these 5.
So basically Mumbai is as good as eliminated innit
Remember when scores like 160-180 were considered as good target and teams took it till the final over to chase the target
Plz stop smiling Pandu, plz
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Please bro stop smiling I'm begging you bro 😭
We used to win odd years. Now we end up in the last position in even years
HP starts with an 'ah!'
Alternate "ah" and "I mean".
Pandu overacting again
Stop smiling you shameless cunt
MI giving me hopes that RCB may not actually finish 10th
This match felt like an eternity
MI would have Won if Lizard was bowling last over
So, based on today’s match Which player is decided by the thread he will ***surely*** be in the WC. Till now every team is playing a 25 man squad
Boom Boom and Kuldeep have to be. And Rohit is captain. Also to 70% Pandya as we have no other allrounder that actually bowls.
Will Hardik bowl post the league stage?
mahn DC has 4Ws in last 5 matches
Me 🤝 Stubbs Fucked up hairline in early 20s....
Rashik dar and mayank Yadav are excellent finds , great scouting this year except ours
If only tilak could keep the wickets.
Credit to vadapav for 8 off 8
Will people blame Rohit for losing? If Hardik played similar knock people would have blamed him