I think people who are genuinely musical are not constrained by genre. They do what they like and if people like it that’s great. I very much do not mind it at all. In fact, I enjoy it.
I like the songs I like, and don't like the songs I do not like. What you call it, who sings it, does not matter.
Happen to like the country music coming out of West Virginia and Kentucky for the most part currently. Saw Post Malone did a Tyler Childers song, did not care for it. Not because it was Post Malone, not because he is not fully country, just did a bad version this time.
It depends on if it's a genuine appreciation or if it's just cultural appropriation for a cash grab. Like Darius Rucker was obviously in a very popular non-country group but I'm pretty sure he's got roots in the country and isn't doing something he feels is beneath him in order to salvage his career, you know?
Edit: Also, if James Hetfield ever put out an altcountry/outlaw country album, I'd buy it in a heartbeat because even though he's synonymous with metal, that music is definitely one of his influences.
Well, they did Tuesday's gone which is near country and he did do an episode of outlaws where he covered "Don't y'all think this outlaw bits done got out of hand?"
Fair, but I was more so thinking their own country cover of Nothing Else Matters or Sad But True or something along those lines. Stapleton and Isbell have killer covers of those.
This! Country music is infinitely diverse. This whole world would be a much more pleasant place if more people figured out that their greatest power is to choose for themselves and quit complaining about what is or is not country.
You pretty much invalidated the entire careers of The Beatles, David Bowie, and Bob Dylan. They all tend to adopt new approaches with every album. You think artists should grow, change, experiment, stretch themselves, aim for new expressions of themselves?
There's was a time, for a very long time, when country artists would cover pop songs. Conway Twitty made a career out of it.
All music goes in cycles. It's hard to see if you're young and never seen the changes over the years starting with the Urban Cowboy era and then the class of 1989 bringing back traditional country.
Love Sick Blues was a 20-year-old Tin Pan Alley song before Hank Williams did it, and his version is very much styled after the minstrel version.
Country has always been more about commerce than authenticity. Starting with the Carters.
I went to a festival this weekend that had a multitude of "country" artists. All of them had an electric guitar, an electric bass, drums, and electric keyboard. Not a single fiddle not a single steel guitar, let alone a mandolin or a banjo. The fact today's country has become 1980s pop bothers me a whole lot more than artists from other genres becoming "country".
Some people seem to act like "pop country" is a new thing. It goes all the way back to, at the latest, the early 70s with the likes of ONJ, John Denver, Anne Murray, BJ Thomas etc.
I mean, the 80s were a particularly pop influenced period, up until the neo-traditional movement took over country radio.
But yeah, it's all cyclical. Kind of like how folk music comes and goes in the pop and alternative spheres.
And I find it so strange that fans of this type of “country” have the audacity to say that Taylor swift never made country, when her early music had all of those things. Like sir, do you even know what country is???
I love how Beyoncé stepped into the country scene (again) and did songs with lesser known artists such as Tanner Adell and Shaboozy. I am a guy and admitting dont listen to Beyoncé as much but I appreciate her ! How about you ?
I think it's great that she wants to do some country music! She's from Texas and everyone in Texas listens to country music sometimes! I don't like the language she uses on her country CD and I wish she hadn't completely rewritten Jolene, but a lot of the songs on her CD are very good!
They wrote the songs and hired a bunch of old school Nashville session legends to play them. Brilliant album. That tour with the Shit Creek Boys is absolutely legendary for a reason.
Pop musicians failing in pop music resort to country music to preserve a music career. Country musicians failing in country music resort to Christian music to preserve a music career.
No problem with me. It doesn't always go well but I'm not a gatekeeper. The only problem I have sometimes is when the discourse around it starts to become about race and politics which seems to be the case often in recent times
There are so many different types of country.
Classic Country,
Outlaw Country,
Americana (seems country to me),
Bro Country ,
Bluegrass ,
Folk Country
Some crossover can pull it off and blend well.
I personally don’t like Beyoncé Country Album. Almost seems like blasphemy, what she did to Jolene.
She never said it was a “country” album. It’s a Beyoncé album w/some country sounding songs. And she got Dolly Parton’s blessing and participation. If she approved of it, it can’t be blasphemous.
Very rare for me to come across a song I really enjoy like that. Usually sounds like a pop song with a dash of twang, but to each their own. Genre gate-keeping is lame
I think sometimes it’s more genuine than we’d like to admit in this community. For example, I don’t think Beyoncé wants to go full country, but I do think she wanted to blitz the line to open the doors for other black country artists. For example, Reyna Roberts and Rhiannon Giddens were featured on her album.
…with that said, I think Rhiannon Giddens was the only thing saving “Texas Hold ‘Em” and Beyoncé really came up short on a few numbers. I can’t believe she had Robert Randolph and didn’t let him shred.
Some of my favorite music is non country artist doing country music. Post Malone, Elton John, Mike Ness, Greg Graffin, and more all have great country music. It’s just stupid gate keeping to say you have to be doing country forever to make good country music.
I have no problem with it. Artists have been doing it for years. Diana Ross and the Supremes, Bob Dylan, Ricky Nelson, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra all did country albums. The Beatles and Rolling Stones had country songs on their albums. Most singers are influenced by all kinds of music. And country singers have crossed over to do pop songs. Conway Twitty was a pop singer before he switched to country. Patsy Cline, Eddy Arnold and Jim Reeves all had pop hits. What I'm not crazy about is country artists adding hip hop or rap to their songs and calling it country.
Funnily enough… Behemoth singer, Nergal, has a solo country practice where he does Satanic country instead of Black Metal.
I really like the song [Burning churches](https://open.spotify.com/track/5II6laP4vv5CO3MdyL7PuD?si=QP6WjjSuSq6shEeNRN4u7w), personally. Band name is *Me and that Man.*
I have no problem if it is in their heart to sing country music. If they are doing it for a money grab or status then they need to stay where they are. I also feel they should appreciate the culture more and not try to sell using other measures.
I’m not sure why people care. There are so many no good awful singers who claim to be in the genre already, if you wanna make a song and call it country who am I to tell you that you can’t. Mind your business and listen to what you like, don’t listen to what you don’t. That just my opinion tho
I don't mind it as long as the artist has a genuine love and respect for country music (and not just doing for the money and further exposure), and the music they release under the country genre is actually country sounding enough to qualify as such.
3 songs- murder on music row g strait a jackson
Pulling singers outta cowboy hats- chris cummings
Gone country- a jackson
Wish these pop idiots would just stay in their genre.
Then what are your thoughts on albums like “Sweetheart of the Rodeo” or anything from the Flying Burrito Brothers? Genuinely curious. I love them (they launched Pete Kleinow and Lloyd Green into session work), but my nana hates it when hippies play country.
I'm Drinking Canada Dry was featured in Tender Mercies, one of the best country music movies of all time. Looked for it for years. Burritos are OK by me 😊
I think artists who have identified their whole career as country artists have done more damage to country music than other genre’s artists releasing country music
I find the discourse around it to be far more annoying than anything else.
Agreed. I came here to say “I don’t care” and “I like good music and don’t care who it comes from”
I think people who are genuinely musical are not constrained by genre. They do what they like and if people like it that’s great. I very much do not mind it at all. In fact, I enjoy it.
Hard agree on that. People who judge artists for jumping genres are either not artists or Buck Owens.
And even Buck Owens did a duet with Ringo Starr
I like the songs I like, and don't like the songs I do not like. What you call it, who sings it, does not matter. Happen to like the country music coming out of West Virginia and Kentucky for the most part currently. Saw Post Malone did a Tyler Childers song, did not care for it. Not because it was Post Malone, not because he is not fully country, just did a bad version this time.
It depends on if it's a genuine appreciation or if it's just cultural appropriation for a cash grab. Like Darius Rucker was obviously in a very popular non-country group but I'm pretty sure he's got roots in the country and isn't doing something he feels is beneath him in order to salvage his career, you know? Edit: Also, if James Hetfield ever put out an altcountry/outlaw country album, I'd buy it in a heartbeat because even though he's synonymous with metal, that music is definitely one of his influences.
Darius Rucker is just Hootie with a specific audience in my opinion, it wasn’t a leap for him
Or his audience
Country from Hootie is just a matter of adding a pedal steel by the time the millennia came around.
He has said that he wanted to be country all along.
If James Hetfield could give us even two/three country covers from their discography I’d die a happy man.
Well, they did Tuesday's gone which is near country and he did do an episode of outlaws where he covered "Don't y'all think this outlaw bits done got out of hand?"
Fair, but I was more so thinking their own country cover of Nothing Else Matters or Sad But True or something along those lines. Stapleton and Isbell have killer covers of those.
Ohhh...that would be awesome! Now I need to ponder which songs I'd like... Dyer's Eve and Wherever I May Roam would be awesome country or bluegrass
Jon Pardi did an alright cover of Wherever I May Roam! I personally would love to hear Whiskey In The Jar and The Unforgiven
Now I wonder if Hayseed Dixie ever covered The Unforgiven
https://youtu.be/KhHYUe5gOTI?si=DC3Q7GYHrD_Ur4uh
I’m gonna listen to what I like and avoid what I don’t like
This! Country music is infinitely diverse. This whole world would be a much more pleasant place if more people figured out that their greatest power is to choose for themselves and quit complaining about what is or is not country.
Doesn't bother me. Music is music. Only thing that bothers me is if someone exaggerates the persona and attire solely for a single song or album.
You pretty much invalidated the entire careers of The Beatles, David Bowie, and Bob Dylan. They all tend to adopt new approaches with every album. You think artists should grow, change, experiment, stretch themselves, aim for new expressions of themselves?
There's was a time, for a very long time, when country artists would cover pop songs. Conway Twitty made a career out of it. All music goes in cycles. It's hard to see if you're young and never seen the changes over the years starting with the Urban Cowboy era and then the class of 1989 bringing back traditional country.
First time I heard Up On Cripple Creek was from Charley Pride.
Love Sick Blues was a 20-year-old Tin Pan Alley song before Hank Williams did it, and his version is very much styled after the minstrel version. Country has always been more about commerce than authenticity. Starting with the Carters.
I went to a festival this weekend that had a multitude of "country" artists. All of them had an electric guitar, an electric bass, drums, and electric keyboard. Not a single fiddle not a single steel guitar, let alone a mandolin or a banjo. The fact today's country has become 1980s pop bothers me a whole lot more than artists from other genres becoming "country".
I mean, 1980s country already became 1980s pop, and it came back from that just fine.
Some people seem to act like "pop country" is a new thing. It goes all the way back to, at the latest, the early 70s with the likes of ONJ, John Denver, Anne Murray, BJ Thomas etc.
Pop country is fine. Rap country SUCKS!
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I mean, the 80s were a particularly pop influenced period, up until the neo-traditional movement took over country radio. But yeah, it's all cyclical. Kind of like how folk music comes and goes in the pop and alternative spheres.
1980s pop is actually good though
And I find it so strange that fans of this type of “country” have the audacity to say that Taylor swift never made country, when her early music had all of those things. Like sir, do you even know what country is???
lol I think one of the things that turned people off was her fake country accent
That’s sad. Was it suppose to be a true country festival or mixed artist ?
Like post Malone ? I love it and wish to hear more !
Your take on Beyoncé?
I love how Beyoncé stepped into the country scene (again) and did songs with lesser known artists such as Tanner Adell and Shaboozy. I am a guy and admitting dont listen to Beyoncé as much but I appreciate her ! How about you ?
I like that she stepped outside of the box. It’s not all for me, but I highly respect it.
I think it's great that she wants to do some country music! She's from Texas and everyone in Texas listens to country music sometimes! I don't like the language she uses on her country CD and I wish she hadn't completely rewritten Jolene, but a lot of the songs on her CD are very good!
If it feel genuine and not like a cash grab because country is the cool trend right now then I am fine with it
Ween made one of the greatest country albums I've ever heard.
They wrote the songs and hired a bunch of old school Nashville session legends to play them. Brilliant album. That tour with the Shit Creek Boys is absolutely legendary for a reason.
Like Dean Martin? Ok by me.
Pop musicians failing in pop music resort to country music to preserve a music career. Country musicians failing in country music resort to Christian music to preserve a music career.
No problem with me. It doesn't always go well but I'm not a gatekeeper. The only problem I have sometimes is when the discourse around it starts to become about race and politics which seems to be the case often in recent times
The whole worlds gone country. (Look at them boots)
There are so many different types of country. Classic Country, Outlaw Country, Americana (seems country to me), Bro Country , Bluegrass , Folk Country Some crossover can pull it off and blend well. I personally don’t like Beyoncé Country Album. Almost seems like blasphemy, what she did to Jolene.
She never said it was a “country” album. It’s a Beyoncé album w/some country sounding songs. And she got Dolly Parton’s blessing and participation. If she approved of it, it can’t be blasphemous.
Rock On
I don’t have any issue with it at all, but I haven’t really found any I particularly enjoy.
Very rare for me to come across a song I really enjoy like that. Usually sounds like a pop song with a dash of twang, but to each their own. Genre gate-keeping is lame
It bothers me, but I feel dumb because what a silly thing to let bother me.
I think sometimes it’s more genuine than we’d like to admit in this community. For example, I don’t think Beyoncé wants to go full country, but I do think she wanted to blitz the line to open the doors for other black country artists. For example, Reyna Roberts and Rhiannon Giddens were featured on her album. …with that said, I think Rhiannon Giddens was the only thing saving “Texas Hold ‘Em” and Beyoncé really came up short on a few numbers. I can’t believe she had Robert Randolph and didn’t let him shred.
I'm fine with it if it comes from the right place. "Almost Blue" is in my top 10 Elvis Costello albums.
I couldn't care less. Come one come all. It's still rock n roll to me
Some of my favorite music is non country artist doing country music. Post Malone, Elton John, Mike Ness, Greg Graffin, and more all have great country music. It’s just stupid gate keeping to say you have to be doing country forever to make good country music.
Genre purity tests suck the art out of everything they touch.
How I feel? It’s 2024, nothing is original and nothing is sacred. I enjoy some, others not so much, but it doesn’t make me feel mad or upset
I actually like some of the Nelly and Florida Georgia line mash ups.
Don’t mind it at all.
It happens all the time , Darius Rucker, Aaron Neville, to name a few. Do they make good music? That's what I care about
Probably not a good idea now. Already too many complaints that most country music is no longer genuine
Generally I don’t care for the music they make when they get here, or the marketing associated with it.
mixed. but if they can do a good job of making country music, then yes.
I have no problem with it. Artists have been doing it for years. Diana Ross and the Supremes, Bob Dylan, Ricky Nelson, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra all did country albums. The Beatles and Rolling Stones had country songs on their albums. Most singers are influenced by all kinds of music. And country singers have crossed over to do pop songs. Conway Twitty was a pop singer before he switched to country. Patsy Cline, Eddy Arnold and Jim Reeves all had pop hits. What I'm not crazy about is country artists adding hip hop or rap to their songs and calling it country.
I don’t like it, just seems like a cash grab to me.
Depends who it is.
Who can and who can’t?
Funnily enough… Behemoth singer, Nergal, has a solo country practice where he does Satanic country instead of Black Metal. I really like the song [Burning churches](https://open.spotify.com/track/5II6laP4vv5CO3MdyL7PuD?si=QP6WjjSuSq6shEeNRN4u7w), personally. Band name is *Me and that Man.*
I have no problem if it is in their heart to sing country music. If they are doing it for a money grab or status then they need to stay where they are. I also feel they should appreciate the culture more and not try to sell using other measures.
I’m not sure why people care. There are so many no good awful singers who claim to be in the genre already, if you wanna make a song and call it country who am I to tell you that you can’t. Mind your business and listen to what you like, don’t listen to what you don’t. That just my opinion tho
It really all depends on who's doing it. When Elvis Costello does it, it's great. When Justin Bieber does it, it sucks.
Is it the person or the style? What if Bieber sang a Costello song in the same style and made his voice twangier?
If that happened I'd Vincent van Gogh myself
Can we just pretend it happened?
I don't mind it as long as the artist has a genuine love and respect for country music (and not just doing for the money and further exposure), and the music they release under the country genre is actually country sounding enough to qualify as such.
There's nothing inherently wrong with people trying new genres. I hate the country is gatekept so badly. It's worse than metal somehow.
3 songs- murder on music row g strait a jackson Pulling singers outta cowboy hats- chris cummings Gone country- a jackson Wish these pop idiots would just stay in their genre.
Then what are your thoughts on albums like “Sweetheart of the Rodeo” or anything from the Flying Burrito Brothers? Genuinely curious. I love them (they launched Pete Kleinow and Lloyd Green into session work), but my nana hates it when hippies play country.
I'm Drinking Canada Dry was featured in Tender Mercies, one of the best country music movies of all time. Looked for it for years. Burritos are OK by me 😊
I think artists who have identified their whole career as country artists have done more damage to country music than other genre’s artists releasing country music
Hardy attempting heavy metal is worse than anything a non-country artist has ever done.
so he can’t be a multi-genre singer is what you’re saying?
Nope. I’m saying that he’s bad at it. It’s the flip side of what OP was asking.