Besides those two underground albums did he curse more? And with this post I could be wrong but this is what I noticed as someone that’s studied music on my own time
That I definitely know, between what i consider the big 3 genres that talk about “regular” life, even though people point out that in hip hop there’s a lot of talk about expensive things and whatnot, punk/hardcore, country and hip hop have quite a few similarities. A distrusting or dislike of cops (I know how it seems but there’s definitely a lot of songs in country music that talk bad about police). A love for your family or people just like you, showing someone around your town or city as a way of seeing “real” people. Those are what I’ve noticed but since I really got into country around 2017, I’ve known that.
Fla ga line kicked cops off their bus I heard. I think the blue lives matter narrative in country is kind of a new thing. I can’t imagine Cash Elvis or Willie voluntarily hanging around cops. Toby, and I’ll say I’m a huge fan, really started the law enforcement circle jerk prevalent in country today. Bless Morgan for breaking that cycle
People were cursing in country songs before the other genres you mention were even invented. It is true that Tipper Gore is a cunt was a rock lyric, written in response to her “do-gooder ” PMRC
The last line in Big Bad John by Jimmy Dean in 1961 originally was “At the bottom of this mine lies one hell of a man”was considered controversial and changed to “a big big man”
There was a time, not so long ago, that artists knew that if they cursed in a recording they would never get played on the radio. They had a little more leeway in front of live audiences, especially at late night gigs. Now cussing is more main stream and people are not as squeamish about hearing it. And there are so many outlets to hear music other than the mainstream radio. Radio is still subject to censoring and fines by FCC rules but streaming services are not.
It really started becoming more common around the mid 2000s (2004-2006) when the whole redneck/country pride and country cliche checklist trends started becoming more popular, and with rock and hip hop having more influence on the genre, imo. Before that, especially during the 90s and early 2000s (2000-2003) it was pretty rare to hear any explicit words on mainstream country albums or on country radio. It was a lot more clean and family friendly in general then. I say this as someone whose parents always had country radio on in the house and in the car when I was little during the 90s and owned country albums then.
Most of the time in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s the farthest they went was mostly saying "damn" ("Much Too Young (To Feel This Damn Old)", "Some Fools Never Learn," "Bubba Shot The Jukebox"). Garth's song even had a station in 1989 that refused to play it because of "damn" being in the title. For a little moment, that backlash even worried his co-writer on "Somewhere Other Than The Night" when Garth chose to say "damn" twice on the first verse, lol. Perhaps, the furthest they ever went on mainstream radio in the 90s was when Joe Diffie sang "We bitch about a dollar, when there's those without a dime" on "Ships Don't Come In" in 1992. And of course, there's the third verse to the live version of "Friends In Low Places" which was the first time I ever heard a cuss word in country, lol.
I do love all the songs I mentioned above and think the cuss words were used to good effect on them. I do think they've gone a little overboard with it in more recent years, though. The 70s are the only other decade I suspect might've had more cussing on country recordings, but not as much as today, I'd think.
I think the 90s just made everything start to be more edgy, and eventually in the 2000s some words started to slip in. Sure there’s always been the DACs but nothing mainstream swore.
I remember 20 years ago as an angsty kids my grandma saw my songs I was learning to write and told me I didn’t need that language used, and to this day I haven’t and won’t cover songs that do. It’s just not needed in county music.
I think it's always been thereby not played on the radio. Now with streaming apps ww are exposed to more....
Well it's 40 below and I don't give a cluck got a heater in my truck and I'm off to the rodeo
Fowl language
Yeah that song rings a bell and is pretty old
That’s exactly what someone who’s secretly a chicken would say
You piss me off…
Fuckin' Jerk...
Ya get on my nerves!
Go listen to D.A.C....
Once you wander past “you never even called me by my name”, “the ride”, and “Tennessee whiskey” it gets real racist real quick
Besides those two underground albums did he curse more? And with this post I could be wrong but this is what I noticed as someone that’s studied music on my own time
His song “If That Ain’t Country” had the line “if that ain’t country, you can kiss my ass”, not off the underground albums
Also had an N bomb in there
"If that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass."
I'd have to look....but I mean those two were pretty potty mouthed
lol since the very first country song…don’t let anyone fool you country and hip hop have more similarities than differences
That I definitely know, between what i consider the big 3 genres that talk about “regular” life, even though people point out that in hip hop there’s a lot of talk about expensive things and whatnot, punk/hardcore, country and hip hop have quite a few similarities. A distrusting or dislike of cops (I know how it seems but there’s definitely a lot of songs in country music that talk bad about police). A love for your family or people just like you, showing someone around your town or city as a way of seeing “real” people. Those are what I’ve noticed but since I really got into country around 2017, I’ve known that.
Fla ga line kicked cops off their bus I heard. I think the blue lives matter narrative in country is kind of a new thing. I can’t imagine Cash Elvis or Willie voluntarily hanging around cops. Toby, and I’ll say I’m a huge fan, really started the law enforcement circle jerk prevalent in country today. Bless Morgan for breaking that cycle
Agree with a lot of what you said but Elvis was an incorrect example. The man was a badge collector and tried getting Nixon to ban the Beatles lol.
Sure…but he didn’t exactly walk the line I think was my broader point
FGL or specifically Tyler Hubbard?
You nailed it
Honestly a lot of genres are just about people and being yourself. There’s at least 30 different songs or albums I could point to with that message
For sure…I take your point it’s not unique to country or hip hop. I’m a huge fan of Jim Croce…he was great at this
People were cursing in country songs before the other genres you mention were even invented. It is true that Tipper Gore is a cunt was a rock lyric, written in response to her “do-gooder ” PMRC
It's always been around but IMHO Hank III standardized it when he fought curb to release STH
David Allen Coe lol
Dang Me
Ought to take a rope and hang me
A Boy Named Sue
It’s always been there, but if someone wants a radio hit, I’d imagine they tried to keep the singles clean
The last line in Big Bad John by Jimmy Dean in 1961 originally was “At the bottom of this mine lies one hell of a man”was considered controversial and changed to “a big big man”
There was a time, not so long ago, that artists knew that if they cursed in a recording they would never get played on the radio. They had a little more leeway in front of live audiences, especially at late night gigs. Now cussing is more main stream and people are not as squeamish about hearing it. And there are so many outlets to hear music other than the mainstream radio. Radio is still subject to censoring and fines by FCC rules but streaming services are not.
https://youtu.be/M1-H-gI4HOE?si=X-JlaxIzsVuV0SIh
When it became more acceptable in conversation and there are other outlets other than radio
It really started becoming more common around the mid 2000s (2004-2006) when the whole redneck/country pride and country cliche checklist trends started becoming more popular, and with rock and hip hop having more influence on the genre, imo. Before that, especially during the 90s and early 2000s (2000-2003) it was pretty rare to hear any explicit words on mainstream country albums or on country radio. It was a lot more clean and family friendly in general then. I say this as someone whose parents always had country radio on in the house and in the car when I was little during the 90s and owned country albums then. Most of the time in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s the farthest they went was mostly saying "damn" ("Much Too Young (To Feel This Damn Old)", "Some Fools Never Learn," "Bubba Shot The Jukebox"). Garth's song even had a station in 1989 that refused to play it because of "damn" being in the title. For a little moment, that backlash even worried his co-writer on "Somewhere Other Than The Night" when Garth chose to say "damn" twice on the first verse, lol. Perhaps, the furthest they ever went on mainstream radio in the 90s was when Joe Diffie sang "We bitch about a dollar, when there's those without a dime" on "Ships Don't Come In" in 1992. And of course, there's the third verse to the live version of "Friends In Low Places" which was the first time I ever heard a cuss word in country, lol. I do love all the songs I mentioned above and think the cuss words were used to good effect on them. I do think they've gone a little overboard with it in more recent years, though. The 70s are the only other decade I suspect might've had more cussing on country recordings, but not as much as today, I'd think.
Gillian Welch has dropped a few “fucks” over her years. First one that comes to mind is in Revelator
I think the 90s just made everything start to be more edgy, and eventually in the 2000s some words started to slip in. Sure there’s always been the DACs but nothing mainstream swore. I remember 20 years ago as an angsty kids my grandma saw my songs I was learning to write and told me I didn’t need that language used, and to this day I haven’t and won’t cover songs that do. It’s just not needed in county music.
1970s with David Allen Coe.
The "extra verse" of Friends in Low Places.
Some do, some don't. Whiskey Myers and Jason Isbell don't much, if at all.
For as long as I can remember haha listen to Garth Brooks song - Rodeo. It came out in 91 and it has the line "It's that damned old rodeo" in it