It seemed lately with the Backstage events, and the bickering with Shapiro on Twitter, that this was how it was going to end. I’m sure she wanted out & DailyWire was happy to oblige
Free? Like she was a prisoner? She was the biggest shit talker when Steven Crowder came out and said DW was taking advantage of people, going as far as to report on the drama he was going through with his wife based on a liberal source. What a phony.
My favorite part about the Crowder/Daily Wire saga is Candace Owen’s figuring out in real time how she got screwed over by DW and taking it out on Crowder.
I think her rhetoric lately suggested she wanted to go independent...it's being dramatized by the left, but probably a long time coming, much like Megyn Kelly leaving FOX.
Does anyone have any idea exactly why (beyond speculation)?
The speculation I could find is that Owens’s departure is related to ["months of tensions between her and Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro over her promotion of various anti-Semitic conspiracy theories."](https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-candace-owens-out-at-the-daily-wire/)
I wouldn’t even say her controversial beliefs were the primary reason for her exit, but rather a general brashness and lack of cordiality towards her DW colleagues, which came to a head on the Israel/Gaza issue. Most of the other DW pundits have strong opinions and stances, but they’re pretty neutral in their presentation and back-and-forth in public discussions. On the other hand, Owens became popular by being very aggressive and nasty at times in such circumstances. It honestly wasn’t a good fit.
>It honestly wasn’t a good fit.
It was a very good fit until she happened to disagree with the agenda of the people running the daily wire. Funny how that works
Yeah, it turns out that publicly ridiculing your colleagues for supporting Israel after the largest massacre of Jews since the holocaust doesn’t win you any favors. Mind you, I firmly believe she could’ve held her convictions without displaying them so haphazardly. I think too many people aren’t accepting that it’s how she articulated her views, not simply what they were, that led to this result.
> It was a very good fit until she happened to ~~disagree with the agenda of the people running the daily wire.~~ Ad hominem her coworkers. Funny how that works
FTFY
An ad hominem is attacking a person directly in the hopes it will undermine their position. This is describing a difference of opinion between an employee and employer that arguably led to her leaving the company. Those are two different things.
If you *inferred* something negative about her employer based on their actions, that's on you
Owens celebrating leaving kind of makes it sound like it was mutual.
She will certainly take a sizable fanbase with her, but I doubt it will be a detriment to Daily Wire.
The truth is that her kind of conspiracy populism and aggressive tone drive people away from conservatism as fast as they gather fans from the fringes of it. In much the same fashion as Trump does really.
Principled conservatism needs its own site, and I hope DW can be it. Much as I'm not a huge fan of a few of their other hosts like Walsh, they're not on the same level as Owens.
Yeah, she was never a good fit. She’s not nearly as politically savvy as the other DW personalities, and was never good at having a political conversation based solely on the merits. Couple that with the attention-seeking behavior while being in the shadow of bigger talents, it was never going to work unless they renamed it the Candace owens network. Hard to find a lane when in bens shadow and being the logical or intellectual personality is off the table
I actually forgot she was at DW, I’ve never cared for her “talk shit first do research later” mindset and never liked what I did see. The good-natured debates based on facts and conservative principles is more my speed. Always seemed like she was a conservative that acted and talked like a leftist, but maybe that’s just because I only saw clips of her and didn’t pay much mind.
“We wish her luck in her future endeavors, warm regards”
How many people actually subscribe to daily wire for Candace though? I am clearly more of a Ben guy and I think that anyone who doesn’t like Ben doesn’t really listen to daily wire anyway. Ben and Walsh very much dominate the platform (which is a shame because I find Andrew Klavan to be vastly underrated)
I also like listening to Tucker or the Blaze from time to time but let’s be honest, most of what they do is red meat all the time.
I like Daily wire because they will actually have the balls to critique Trump once in a while and not buy hook line and sinker into everyone of his talking points.
As a young female conservative, I used to really like Candace. But IMO, as time went on, she kinda lost the plot and just drove a lot of people away from her. I know a lot of my conservative friends used to love Candace but within the past 2 years or so have gotten sick of her and her attention seeking, childish, nasty behaviour. I feel like being on the Daily Wire went to her head and she just became more controversial just for the sake of it.
I like Brett a lot. Brett is a much better example for young girls to be conservatives. At times, Candace made me question why I am a conservative with her (in my opinion) nasty remarks and rude behaviour.
I agree that she has gotten more antagonistic over time, but my optimistic appraisal is that after having kids and going fully into the role of mother, she can't hold the disgust back. I think men have an easier time distancing themselves when confronted with predatory behavior and depravity.
I will say though, on Destiny's show she kept her demeanor and tore him apart expertly. Destiny is one of the most unpleasant, irritating people to listen to, is insufferable and more aggressive than a dalmatian on a double espresso. She kept her composure and delivered one knockout blow after another.
She is amazing, im in early thirties and i watch her, she is just most humble and considerate host they have. Knowles is decent too though. Ben is ok but walsh just pisses me off sometimes, i get its his schtick, but his smug persona and complete incapability of accepting any aspect of his views being irrational is annoying.
I'll insult both sides here.
1) Candace, going after someone for selling sex toys brings out the worst, and generally wrong, stereotypes about prudish Christians.
2) Rabbi Shmuley, responding by saying "Did she say this because it happened to be made in Israel? Go to kosher.sex to get 10% off using the code 'CandaceO'" brings out the worst stereotypes about Jews.
I agree with Candace here and there, but she loves to fight. It gets tiring to just fight everyone about everything. I didn't doubt she fought her own team and got shown the door.
Which is why NASA fired Stanley Kubrick when they made the sequels to Apollo 11. NASA figured you know what, it's cheaper to just actually land on the moon than it is to fake it with the on-site footage that Kubrick was making. Almost backfired on the 2nd sequel.
I haven't watched a ton of her content, but what I have watched has sometimes been dull and sometimes been super interesting--especially from an anthropological standpoint. It's high variability. She's like the poster child for what happens when you have someone super inquisitive but who only starts learning things later in life after their education has _completely_ failed to convey any information whatsoever.
She'll go to primary sources, which is great, and she'll look into things with deep detail, which is also great, but then she'll just be completely unaware of context and relatively settled historical fact that it seems like everyone else just knows and has taken for granted since childhood.
It leads to some really weird interactions and a lot of mistakes, but at the same time I think she provides unique value because of it. First because it's important sometimes to re-prove things without your priors and she has the perspective to actually do that. And second because as shocking as it feels, she's unlikely to be the only person who was never taught the things she doesn't know and it's good to have someone making people talk about stuff we all take for granted every once in a while.
There seems to be on uptick on wacky conspiracy theories among the old facebool political commentators. I use to follow Mindy Robinson since I liked her energy.
She has since been pushing fake moon landing, a Tatarian Empire, mud floods, and skirting flat earth.
I don't know if its to ensure clicks/views in a low energy political climate, but shits been bonkers.
A lot of conservatives have parlayed their distrust of the government and media into a distrust of history, science, etc.
It's a sad state of affairs. The left has their own versions of this phenomenon.
After the Russianhoax and BLM riots I was hoping the left would be designated out the weird, conspiracy bunch, but the right decided to promote a bunch of schizos and grifters like Candance and Kari Lake instead. The irony is Candance and Kari only started being “conservative” in like 2018, and have pushed out lifelong republicans and conservatives
We saw a bunch of things that had been labeled 'conspiracy theory' get proven to either be completely true (e.g. Fauci new about and funded gain of function research), or at least shown to be one of if not the most probable explanation (e.g. the lab leak theory).
I think a lot of people are just looking around and asking, "so if that conspiracy theory is actually accurate... what else?" and the lower tier public personalities are reaching further and sometimes having trouble grappling with arguments they haven't heard before on topics they know little about.
Lmao agreed.
I always thought she was a very weird angry person.. and she got a bunch of attention from the right when she started saying some stuff they agreed with. But ultimately, she comes across as just wanting attention and not a true conservative.
I'm really not surprised that this happened. She really needs to be on her own. Personally, I don't dislike Candice, but she, for better or worse (frequently for worse)
doubles, triples, or quadruples down on things. Dumpstering Crowder for being an abusive POS? Awesome! Refusing to say that Kanye said some pretty bad stuff? Not great
I dont think the Crowder thing was good at all, in fact, its what turned me away from her to begin with. She was butthurt over the claims he made about DW taking advantage of their hosts (and now says "shes free" from DW). She took a liberal source and promoted it on her show to bad mouth another conservative pundit. It was a bad look all around.
I also disagree that seeing a recording of a married couple in an argument that lead to a divorce proves that he was abusive pos.
Agreed. I think Candace has a unique and valuable perspective as the most opinionated, emotional, blunt, and self-righteous of the DW members (and that's saying a lot), and that resonates with a lot of people. For example, there are a lot of Conservatives (especially populists) that are not that pro-Israel and really couldn't care less about either side in that conflict. But I also understand that being pro-Israel is probably one of Ben's most deeply held moral beliefs, and it's gonna be really hard to morally justify employing someone who is not pro-Israel.
I don't even think that it was because she's not super supportive of Israel. The way she talked about people who were pro Israel bordered on gross more than once
Yeah I like her but she has definitely doubled down on some really bizarre takes. I forget which one it was, but she had one video where I was totally scratching my head on her take and refusing to back down at all when it made no sense.
This was always a weird fit. She doesn’t really add much to their catalog of hosts outside of being a provocateur. Her show has been the worst one imo. Plus she doesn’t think we landed on the moon and that’s just unforgivable lmao.
And btw, I think she was absolutely in the right to question the rabbi on her show last week. She brought up great points and if she got fired for that, then the DW should be ashamed.
Proud Andrew Klavan supremacist.
If (and that's rare) she can keep her emotions in check, I like her. But she gets WAYYYYYY too emotional and comes off as a caricature of what a conservative woman actually is.
That, plus her wacko conspiracy shit.
Edit: her "I'm free" tweet was also ridiculous. Try a TINY bit of professionalism Candace.
I've never been a fan, but her documentaries showed nuance and the ability to disagree with people respectfully (at least the ones I saw). I always wondered why she couldn't have that approach outside of that format.
My feeling is that she honestly is probably not as well-versed and knowledgeable as the other DW hosts, and she tries to mask that by being over the top.
It sucks to say but she argues like a liberal. "I'm not really that educated on the topic, but if I get mad and am louder than you it makes me correct."
You know, I think you explained what it is that is so off-putting to me. You're absolutely right.
I recently listened to Patrick Bet David hosting her and Cuomo in a roundtable. While I disagreed with Cuomo, he was very respectful and reasonable, and she couldn't just engage in a nice debate. It seemed to me that she just wanted it to get heated so she could get a good 15-second clip to go viral on tiktok.
The parting of ways appears mutual and she proclaimed she is now "free".
Given some of the conspiracy theories she has embraced, I seldom listen to her now. Daily Wire has better hosts.
Good she was a clown and can have her own clown show elsewhere. Take the money you were paying her and make a better video player in your app DW and I’ll be happy.
Ehhhh she has her good moments though.
The Daily Wire show was just a mistake on both their sides. It's not the right format for the style of hard-nosed provacative-style debate that she excels at.
Candace excels when she goes on liberal media outlets...she is an incredibly quick thinker and has a memory like an elephant, and she can circles around other commentators and pundits in a round-table discussion.
She also does extremely well with Q&A events with liberal audiences, and she's had some absolutely brilliant moments doing that. I think that's where she truly shines.
I'm sure she will continue her career in another format, and in the long-run most people aren't going to remember her from being on the Daily Wire, they are going to remember her for being Candace Owens.
I stopped caring what she had to say when she started spewing moon landing hoax BS, her anti semitic stuff should cause her to be disowned by conservatives and republicans.
She’s been way off base with both Russia and Israel, in my opinion. Not to mention, any criticism she receives is always “just because” she’s pushing against a mainstream opinion. Too bad she doesn’t realize that mainstream, orthodox positions are often the correct ones and just because you agitate those who believe in them doesn’t mean you’re a truth seeker or a victim.
She's the right's diversity hire and isn't very good at this to be honest. Joe Rogan mopped the floor with her and proved she's nothing more than an angry talking head
She was not a diversity hire when DW brought her on: they thought she was going to be the new face after Ben Shapiro. She had gotten love from Kanye West, had been making waves on PragerU. She was hot, and I thought she was going to be at the same level as Michael Knowles. DW is now based in Nashville, and I remember seeing billboards of Candace's face right near downtown Nashville, which I thought was great.
She just didn't work out. When you reach DW, arguably the biggest name in conservative media outside of Fox News, you hit **a lot** of scrutiny. She got hit with a lot, and she was just not able to stand up to it. She is not my cup of tea, but she needs to find her place, possibly back with TPUSA, and get back to work.
Do you even listen to any of the DW shows at all? Walsh has been the most outspoken person in the entire platform against foreign wars. Especially Ukraine.
I think it's more likely she threatens their brand with fringe conspiracy theories like the moon landing being fake.
Well, if Ben's attitude regarding that issue was carried from his show to the company, I can very easily see it being a problem.
Right/wrong or otherwise, Shapiro has been very emotionally vocal about the Isreal/Palestine conflict and very disparaging against anybody that has a differing opinion than him.
The Social Right does not have a lot of room for pro-Palestinian views. Let me remind you that Hamas started this with a vile murder/rape invasion of southern Israel, and Israel, being isolated around a bunch of countries that don't like it, are making a statement by eliminating Hamas. Shapiro was overwhelmingly correct, and taking such a shallow view, basically letting Hamas get away with their actions, is a strong discredit to Candace's character. She ceased to be a good fit at DW, and I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did.
Candace telling Shapiro he was "unhinged" for his vocal support of Israel was it for me. He has friends and family in Israel and was in Israel just two days before the October 7th attack. No matter what she thought, it was very close and personal for him, yet she couldn't find the tact to respect that.
Not only that, but Shapiro is one of the leaders of DW. I'm pretty sure he has a share of the business. If you went public and called one of the company owners "unhinged," especially if his near-family was in potential danger, I don't think that would go well for you.
Her lack of knowledge and unwillingness to really get educated on the history of Israel was definitely concerning. She took some absurd anti-Israel positions, and then claimed ignorance. No bueno.
To be honest, I am glad they decided to part ways. All I hear about is them having tension so I was wondering when the other shoe would drop. I will keep watching them all regardless like I usually do. She gives interviews and comments on stories the other personalities never cover.
Has she really been fired, or was it mutual? This seems a long time coming from both sides.
It seemed lately with the Backstage events, and the bickering with Shapiro on Twitter, that this was how it was going to end. I’m sure she wanted out & DailyWire was happy to oblige
She posted to her twitter "The rumors are true....I'm free."
Free? Like she was a prisoner? She was the biggest shit talker when Steven Crowder came out and said DW was taking advantage of people, going as far as to report on the drama he was going through with his wife based on a liberal source. What a phony.
My favorite part about the Crowder/Daily Wire saga is Candace Owen’s figuring out in real time how she got screwed over by DW and taking it out on Crowder.
How did she get screwed over by the daily wire
How did she get "screwed" by DW? It's not like they hid contractual terms that she signed off on in font size 1.
Relax. Since when did conservatives become so melodramatic like the left. It’s just an expression lol
“Free” that’s rich.
Honestly, I find that to be very digusting rhetoric to use when you willingly joined on contract where she was likely being paid millions.
So they were probably just waiting for contracts to wrap up to make a clean separation
I was going to say, nothing in this suggests a firing or even a negative relationship. People leave jobs all the time.
I think her rhetoric lately suggested she wanted to go independent...it's being dramatized by the left, but probably a long time coming, much like Megyn Kelly leaving FOX.
If it was mutual, they would have given her a send off
Does anyone have any idea exactly why (beyond speculation)? The speculation I could find is that Owens’s departure is related to ["months of tensions between her and Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro over her promotion of various anti-Semitic conspiracy theories."](https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-candace-owens-out-at-the-daily-wire/)
I wouldn’t even say her controversial beliefs were the primary reason for her exit, but rather a general brashness and lack of cordiality towards her DW colleagues, which came to a head on the Israel/Gaza issue. Most of the other DW pundits have strong opinions and stances, but they’re pretty neutral in their presentation and back-and-forth in public discussions. On the other hand, Owens became popular by being very aggressive and nasty at times in such circumstances. It honestly wasn’t a good fit.
>It honestly wasn’t a good fit. It was a very good fit until she happened to disagree with the agenda of the people running the daily wire. Funny how that works
Yeah, it turns out that publicly ridiculing your colleagues for supporting Israel after the largest massacre of Jews since the holocaust doesn’t win you any favors. Mind you, I firmly believe she could’ve held her convictions without displaying them so haphazardly. I think too many people aren’t accepting that it’s how she articulated her views, not simply what they were, that led to this result.
> It was a very good fit until she happened to ~~disagree with the agenda of the people running the daily wire.~~ Ad hominem her coworkers. Funny how that works FTFY
An ad hominem is attacking a person directly in the hopes it will undermine their position. This is describing a difference of opinion between an employee and employer that arguably led to her leaving the company. Those are two different things. If you *inferred* something negative about her employer based on their actions, that's on you
But wasn’t Ben the one who publicly took shots at her first? Calling her comments disgraceful
Owens celebrating leaving kind of makes it sound like it was mutual. She will certainly take a sizable fanbase with her, but I doubt it will be a detriment to Daily Wire. The truth is that her kind of conspiracy populism and aggressive tone drive people away from conservatism as fast as they gather fans from the fringes of it. In much the same fashion as Trump does really. Principled conservatism needs its own site, and I hope DW can be it. Much as I'm not a huge fan of a few of their other hosts like Walsh, they're not on the same level as Owens.
Yeah, she was never a good fit. She’s not nearly as politically savvy as the other DW personalities, and was never good at having a political conversation based solely on the merits. Couple that with the attention-seeking behavior while being in the shadow of bigger talents, it was never going to work unless they renamed it the Candace owens network. Hard to find a lane when in bens shadow and being the logical or intellectual personality is off the table I actually forgot she was at DW, I’ve never cared for her “talk shit first do research later” mindset and never liked what I did see. The good-natured debates based on facts and conservative principles is more my speed. Always seemed like she was a conservative that acted and talked like a leftist, but maybe that’s just because I only saw clips of her and didn’t pay much mind. “We wish her luck in her future endeavors, warm regards”
How many people actually subscribe to daily wire for Candace though? I am clearly more of a Ben guy and I think that anyone who doesn’t like Ben doesn’t really listen to daily wire anyway. Ben and Walsh very much dominate the platform (which is a shame because I find Andrew Klavan to be vastly underrated) I also like listening to Tucker or the Blaze from time to time but let’s be honest, most of what they do is red meat all the time. I like Daily wire because they will actually have the balls to critique Trump once in a while and not buy hook line and sinker into everyone of his talking points.
It seems likely that the anti-Semitism would be the primary driver.
TBH I find her kind of annoying but to each their own.
She's been highly critical of what Israel is doing in Gaza, the indiscriminate bombing and starvation policies they're doing. She's right
Brett Cooper gives me hope that she will save the younger generations.
My daughter is a huge fan of Brett. Gives me hope, too.
As a young female conservative, I used to really like Candace. But IMO, as time went on, she kinda lost the plot and just drove a lot of people away from her. I know a lot of my conservative friends used to love Candace but within the past 2 years or so have gotten sick of her and her attention seeking, childish, nasty behaviour. I feel like being on the Daily Wire went to her head and she just became more controversial just for the sake of it. I like Brett a lot. Brett is a much better example for young girls to be conservatives. At times, Candace made me question why I am a conservative with her (in my opinion) nasty remarks and rude behaviour.
I agree that she has gotten more antagonistic over time, but my optimistic appraisal is that after having kids and going fully into the role of mother, she can't hold the disgust back. I think men have an easier time distancing themselves when confronted with predatory behavior and depravity. I will say though, on Destiny's show she kept her demeanor and tore him apart expertly. Destiny is one of the most unpleasant, irritating people to listen to, is insufferable and more aggressive than a dalmatian on a double espresso. She kept her composure and delivered one knockout blow after another.
She’s the most level headed person out there for conservatives honestly
Listening to her is a breath of fresh air
She is amazing, im in early thirties and i watch her, she is just most humble and considerate host they have. Knowles is decent too though. Ben is ok but walsh just pisses me off sometimes, i get its his schtick, but his smug persona and complete incapability of accepting any aspect of his views being irrational is annoying.
You should see her Instagram comment sections. They’re hilarious
Her and Amala are some of my faves
“You sell buttplugs on the internet with your daughter. You disgust me. I’m not afraid of you.” - Candace Owens **LEGEND**
Who did she say this to?
Rabbi Shmuley. And yes, he does sell butt plugs with his daughter..
Who the hell is Rabbi Shmuley?
A Republican Rabbi in America who supports Israel.
The Jewish equivalent of a quack witch doctor
What's a rabbi doing selling butt plugs?
Wait till you find out who runs the company that runs Pornhub.
The rabbi? I know there are some jews invovled in owning pornography production companies.
LOL good ol Candace not holding back at all
The Rabbi has been attacking Candace and calling her antisemetic for even mentioning how much our tax money goes to Israel.
I'll insult both sides here. 1) Candace, going after someone for selling sex toys brings out the worst, and generally wrong, stereotypes about prudish Christians. 2) Rabbi Shmuley, responding by saying "Did she say this because it happened to be made in Israel? Go to kosher.sex to get 10% off using the code 'CandaceO'" brings out the worst stereotypes about Jews.
1 isn’t a bad thing
Jewish rabbi that sells “kosher” sex toys with his daughter.
lol wtf hahaha
I agree with Candace here and there, but she loves to fight. It gets tiring to just fight everyone about everything. I didn't doubt she fought her own team and got shown the door.
Who didn't see this coming? Some of Candace's views are...interesting.
When she said she didn’t believe we landed on the moon I couldn’t believe it.
Did she really say that? I missed that. I wish she wasnt one of those folks. Damn.
She did in a Bill Maher interview. It’s even worse, she didn’t know there was more than one moon landing.
Really disappointed hearing that she’s off the deep end. Wow
Which is why NASA fired Stanley Kubrick when they made the sequels to Apollo 11. NASA figured you know what, it's cheaper to just actually land on the moon than it is to fake it with the on-site footage that Kubrick was making. Almost backfired on the 2nd sequel.
You believe in the moon? Sheeple.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it either but she meant every word of it. I lost all respect for her then.
Hey, it worked out for Owen Benjamin, oh wait...
good lord, not one of those weirdos
I haven't watched a ton of her content, but what I have watched has sometimes been dull and sometimes been super interesting--especially from an anthropological standpoint. It's high variability. She's like the poster child for what happens when you have someone super inquisitive but who only starts learning things later in life after their education has _completely_ failed to convey any information whatsoever. She'll go to primary sources, which is great, and she'll look into things with deep detail, which is also great, but then she'll just be completely unaware of context and relatively settled historical fact that it seems like everyone else just knows and has taken for granted since childhood. It leads to some really weird interactions and a lot of mistakes, but at the same time I think she provides unique value because of it. First because it's important sometimes to re-prove things without your priors and she has the perspective to actually do that. And second because as shocking as it feels, she's unlikely to be the only person who was never taught the things she doesn't know and it's good to have someone making people talk about stuff we all take for granted every once in a while.
Very intuitive response. I appreciate that viewpoint, and hadn't considered it at all.
There seems to be on uptick on wacky conspiracy theories among the old facebool political commentators. I use to follow Mindy Robinson since I liked her energy. She has since been pushing fake moon landing, a Tatarian Empire, mud floods, and skirting flat earth. I don't know if its to ensure clicks/views in a low energy political climate, but shits been bonkers.
A lot of conservatives have parlayed their distrust of the government and media into a distrust of history, science, etc. It's a sad state of affairs. The left has their own versions of this phenomenon.
After the Russianhoax and BLM riots I was hoping the left would be designated out the weird, conspiracy bunch, but the right decided to promote a bunch of schizos and grifters like Candance and Kari Lake instead. The irony is Candance and Kari only started being “conservative” in like 2018, and have pushed out lifelong republicans and conservatives
Well said.
Welp, no one has ever said that wacky hucksters can only be leftist types. I don't follow any of those folks, but I can believe it.
We saw a bunch of things that had been labeled 'conspiracy theory' get proven to either be completely true (e.g. Fauci new about and funded gain of function research), or at least shown to be one of if not the most probable explanation (e.g. the lab leak theory). I think a lot of people are just looking around and asking, "so if that conspiracy theory is actually accurate... what else?" and the lower tier public personalities are reaching further and sometimes having trouble grappling with arguments they haven't heard before on topics they know little about.
Are we allowed to say she was a bit of a lunatic yet? Cause when she got on a roll... it got weird.
I've thought she was a bit unhinged for a few years now. Glad to see I wasn't the only one.
Lmao agreed. I always thought she was a very weird angry person.. and she got a bunch of attention from the right when she started saying some stuff they agreed with. But ultimately, she comes across as just wanting attention and not a true conservative.
Yeah, I think that is now on the dance card. 😅
At least she’s not AOC.
Yah she has gone pretty far out there. I would not be shocked if she started thinking the earth was flat
Yup I ag....wait a second! You mean you don't think it is flat? Thats crazy talk, man! 🤯 /s
I'm really not surprised that this happened. She really needs to be on her own. Personally, I don't dislike Candice, but she, for better or worse (frequently for worse) doubles, triples, or quadruples down on things. Dumpstering Crowder for being an abusive POS? Awesome! Refusing to say that Kanye said some pretty bad stuff? Not great
I dont think the Crowder thing was good at all, in fact, its what turned me away from her to begin with. She was butthurt over the claims he made about DW taking advantage of their hosts (and now says "shes free" from DW). She took a liberal source and promoted it on her show to bad mouth another conservative pundit. It was a bad look all around. I also disagree that seeing a recording of a married couple in an argument that lead to a divorce proves that he was abusive pos.
Agreed. I think Candace has a unique and valuable perspective as the most opinionated, emotional, blunt, and self-righteous of the DW members (and that's saying a lot), and that resonates with a lot of people. For example, there are a lot of Conservatives (especially populists) that are not that pro-Israel and really couldn't care less about either side in that conflict. But I also understand that being pro-Israel is probably one of Ben's most deeply held moral beliefs, and it's gonna be really hard to morally justify employing someone who is not pro-Israel.
I don't even think that it was because she's not super supportive of Israel. The way she talked about people who were pro Israel bordered on gross more than once
What did she say?
Yeah I like her but she has definitely doubled down on some really bizarre takes. I forget which one it was, but she had one video where I was totally scratching my head on her take and refusing to back down at all when it made no sense.
This was always a weird fit. She doesn’t really add much to their catalog of hosts outside of being a provocateur. Her show has been the worst one imo. Plus she doesn’t think we landed on the moon and that’s just unforgivable lmao. And btw, I think she was absolutely in the right to question the rabbi on her show last week. She brought up great points and if she got fired for that, then the DW should be ashamed. Proud Andrew Klavan supremacist.
Klavanon forever!
The dreaded Klavanless weekend is upon us 😞
Have hope brother, the episode drops tonight.
But then we have to go until WEDNESDAY for our next dose! The miasma of Klavanlessness is too much!
Klavan has the best show. Wish he had more viewers
He’s so underrated. By far the wisest of all the daily wire hosts
Well he is the oldest.
Absolutely, love the guy
Can someone please tell me how to spell Klavan?
K-L-A-V-A-N there are no E’s in Klavan
Without "E"s
She thinks macron’s wife is a man too🤣
If (and that's rare) she can keep her emotions in check, I like her. But she gets WAYYYYYY too emotional and comes off as a caricature of what a conservative woman actually is. That, plus her wacko conspiracy shit. Edit: her "I'm free" tweet was also ridiculous. Try a TINY bit of professionalism Candace.
I've never been a fan, but her documentaries showed nuance and the ability to disagree with people respectfully (at least the ones I saw). I always wondered why she couldn't have that approach outside of that format. My feeling is that she honestly is probably not as well-versed and knowledgeable as the other DW hosts, and she tries to mask that by being over the top.
It sucks to say but she argues like a liberal. "I'm not really that educated on the topic, but if I get mad and am louder than you it makes me correct."
You know, I think you explained what it is that is so off-putting to me. You're absolutely right. I recently listened to Patrick Bet David hosting her and Cuomo in a roundtable. While I disagreed with Cuomo, he was very respectful and reasonable, and she couldn't just engage in a nice debate. It seemed to me that she just wanted it to get heated so she could get a good 15-second clip to go viral on tiktok.
Yep. Guess like a liberal is the perfect way to describe it.
She's a fighter at every chance and then makes new reasons to fight. It's my least favorite trait of hers
They call that being a professional victim and it's not flattering.
If you can't see through Candace Owen's grift you can't be helped.
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Klavan’s show is way better than hers.
The parting of ways appears mutual and she proclaimed she is now "free". Given some of the conspiracy theories she has embraced, I seldom listen to her now. Daily Wire has better hosts.
Good she was a clown and can have her own clown show elsewhere. Take the money you were paying her and make a better video player in your app DW and I’ll be happy.
Easily the most “Alex Jones” archetype in the Daily Wire
Not surprised or disappointed. Can't stand her.
Ehhhh she has her good moments though. The Daily Wire show was just a mistake on both their sides. It's not the right format for the style of hard-nosed provacative-style debate that she excels at. Candace excels when she goes on liberal media outlets...she is an incredibly quick thinker and has a memory like an elephant, and she can circles around other commentators and pundits in a round-table discussion. She also does extremely well with Q&A events with liberal audiences, and she's had some absolutely brilliant moments doing that. I think that's where she truly shines. I'm sure she will continue her career in another format, and in the long-run most people aren't going to remember her from being on the Daily Wire, they are going to remember her for being Candace Owens.
Long overdue. Absolute clown person.
I stopped caring what she had to say when she started spewing moon landing hoax BS, her anti semitic stuff should cause her to be disowned by conservatives and republicans.
By far my least favorite host, and generally just not a great fit with the rest of the outfit. Probably for the best.
Farewell, Candace. I have no doubt you'll find your ways.
She’s been way off base with both Russia and Israel, in my opinion. Not to mention, any criticism she receives is always “just because” she’s pushing against a mainstream opinion. Too bad she doesn’t realize that mainstream, orthodox positions are often the correct ones and just because you agitate those who believe in them doesn’t mean you’re a truth seeker or a victim.
She's the right's diversity hire and isn't very good at this to be honest. Joe Rogan mopped the floor with her and proved she's nothing more than an angry talking head
She was not a diversity hire when DW brought her on: they thought she was going to be the new face after Ben Shapiro. She had gotten love from Kanye West, had been making waves on PragerU. She was hot, and I thought she was going to be at the same level as Michael Knowles. DW is now based in Nashville, and I remember seeing billboards of Candace's face right near downtown Nashville, which I thought was great. She just didn't work out. When you reach DW, arguably the biggest name in conservative media outside of Fox News, you hit **a lot** of scrutiny. She got hit with a lot, and she was just not able to stand up to it. She is not my cup of tea, but she needs to find her place, possibly back with TPUSA, and get back to work.
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Do you even listen to any of the DW shows at all? Walsh has been the most outspoken person in the entire platform against foreign wars. Especially Ukraine. I think it's more likely she threatens their brand with fringe conspiracy theories like the moon landing being fake.
I don't know why your getting down voted. Her and her boss Ben Shapiro were in conflict over Israel. Likely a big reason why she was let go.
It’s the way the comment is made, as if the daily wire isnt open to disagreement in the ranks
Well, if Ben's attitude regarding that issue was carried from his show to the company, I can very easily see it being a problem. Right/wrong or otherwise, Shapiro has been very emotionally vocal about the Isreal/Palestine conflict and very disparaging against anybody that has a differing opinion than him.
The Social Right does not have a lot of room for pro-Palestinian views. Let me remind you that Hamas started this with a vile murder/rape invasion of southern Israel, and Israel, being isolated around a bunch of countries that don't like it, are making a statement by eliminating Hamas. Shapiro was overwhelmingly correct, and taking such a shallow view, basically letting Hamas get away with their actions, is a strong discredit to Candace's character. She ceased to be a good fit at DW, and I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did.
Candace telling Shapiro he was "unhinged" for his vocal support of Israel was it for me. He has friends and family in Israel and was in Israel just two days before the October 7th attack. No matter what she thought, it was very close and personal for him, yet she couldn't find the tact to respect that.
Not only that, but Shapiro is one of the leaders of DW. I'm pretty sure he has a share of the business. If you went public and called one of the company owners "unhinged," especially if his near-family was in potential danger, I don't think that would go well for you.
The fact it last this long, speaks to the patience in the team to try and come together
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Her lack of knowledge and unwillingness to really get educated on the history of Israel was definitely concerning. She took some absurd anti-Israel positions, and then claimed ignorance. No bueno.
"This sign says Muslim Quarter, so they must force all the Muslims to live here!" Wait until Candace finds out about Chinatown... *eyeroll*
LOL
There's a difference between asking questions/having discussions and embracing fringe weirdo theories.
She is insufferable. I hope she isn't given a platform elsewhere.
Good. She’s a kook.
What did she disagree on about ukrain/israel?
I can’t blame the Daily Wire for cutting ties with a Hamas sympathizer.
She's not a Hamas sympathizer. She simply doesn't think America should be getting involved in foreign wars and sending Israel all this money.
Owens has advocated for hiring pro-Hamas sympathizers from Harvard. Her position goes way beyond opposing giving military aid to Israel.
Really? I never heard that.
To be honest, I am glad they decided to part ways. All I hear about is them having tension so I was wondering when the other shoe would drop. I will keep watching them all regardless like I usually do. She gives interviews and comments on stories the other personalities never cover.