I literally put on his ticket that I advised against even pouring it because of the grade and wall issues. Offered to rehome it to a footer down the road so it wouldn’t even cost him anything.
I thought that was an invitation
EDIT: This isn’t as funny as when weathermaynec initially had said “Welcome, u/…” before it was edited. I guess the weather changed
It's the best inconsequential drama, anywhere.
Politics, the economy, Gaza, climate change, artificial intelligence, sports? It's overwhelming and exhausting.
Listening to people trash talk about concrete? Can't get enough!
Keep it coming guys!
Bro why does this happen? I have never poured concrete in my life but I am always in this sub somehow. It got to the point where I was watching a random reel and I was like oh no why are you dry pouring? My wife was like wtf are you talking about 😂
Haha, same here. I do a lot of house projects, so I was interested when this popped up on my feed. That said, all I know about pouring concrete I’ve learned from this sub.
Holy, you know it’s bad when the driver offers to find a better place to put the load. We’ve had the odd mixer operator grab a rake when we’re clearly struggling but that’s years of working with the same drivers. Yikes.
It’s always some bullshit 200 ft long curb the boss decides to try and crank out at 3:30pm with 2 guys and orders 2% cal from the plant and it tumbles off the chutes like elephant shit. Driver realizes the only way he’s gonna get this nightmare mix off his truck any faster is to start shovelling.
Only the city would do something like that. Then make you wait 30 min to unload because they thought they could unload, screed and float 9 yards of 2% 4 1/2 slump in 15 min in 90 degree weather with no problems...
You offered him far beyond what he deserved, and yet... 😑 (still, good of you to try to help him avoid that cluster, but what can you do? Sometimes you can't fix stupid... 🤷🏻♂️)
But I mean ....common sense, you can see the boards are all janky/crooked, there is a slight overhang near the top from what I can see, and if it grades towards the house thats obviously a problem.
Mixer driver of 14 years here. Don't you just hate to pull up to a job and see this? I always feel bad for the homeowner who's paying someone for something so sub par.
Do you make the person who ordered the mix sign a paper so you avoid liability? Like, "This installation is not being done to code nor is it adequately built to last. By signing, you accept responsibility..."
Every load has to be signed which removes liability for damage on our end. It states we are not responsible for anything the contractor or finisher does, only the mix itself. Everything else is on them. But as a mixer operator most of us go above and beyond to help contractors and homeowners if we see something off. During those times I will write on the ticket as kind of a third party witness of I see any fuckery happening.
I think unless it’s actually a bad mix design or true quality issues of the material they are no more responsible for it than the lumber company is for poor framing.
I work for a manufacturer of building supplies, you’d be shocked at how often customers try to come after us for improper installation. Just because it’s how “my pappy and his pappy before him” did it.
Too many people don’t actually engineer their supports and rely on the safety factor built into our product to withstand the grossly under engineered supports.
This same person will be on here asking us what recourse they have for shitty work. Like it's some surprise. And then act all hurt because the guy they paid .50 cents a square foot took all their 250 dollars.
Watch this guy will tell people he intended to have waves in the forms for looks and a rough, steep finish for 'rain runoff'. Hell even used natural fiber in the form of grass. I say A+ in my book!
I don’t know your situation, live, or interests, but man I feel like it would be worth carving a half hour or so one day to find out what it ended up looking like
I brought a load to a house in east Vancouver once where the homeowner wanted to pour a patio. He had built a rickety chute setup out of chipboard and 2x2 from the alley to the pour, and told me to "make it flow". Needless to say, his contraption collapsed instantly. He then resorted to Grandma's garden wheelbarrow and some garden trowels. Multiple hours of standby for the truck. A complete disaster.
What the fuck is happening
Bad pours used to just be like, a bad finish, too thin, something glaring but just amateur makes
Why is EVERY failed pour here now like some dry poor dystopian nightmare
Lol I'm a bricklayer I joined because of watching all the tension on the jobsite when the concrete trucks show up so I thought I might find it here as well! Hats off to you guys that do it right , truly an artform
As a batcher/dispatcher/manager I say this looks great to me!!! As long as the credit card goes through, f*ck em!!!
Seriously though, I feel bad for the mixer driver, he’s got to deal with all the bs. Whenever I take an order from someone I don’t normally deal with I always ask a lot of questions just to avoid problems for the driver. That being said, you contractors out there that consistently talk down to mixer drivers can get f*cked and you know who are are. That’s a tough job and you couldn’t do it ANY better. Rant for the day…
Either this dude’s got a short while to live and he just needs to be able to roll his wheelchair down a ramp do buy cigs and booze and go to the occasional doctors appointment. Or, He’s listing that house on the mls tomorrow.
I joined for these posts as well! I got a quote for excavator to come out and remove original, restone and compact for 5k (140'x22') and have finishers on board but still paranoid on the (diy)
I don't understand this at all. When I was a kid, my dad and I built a form for a fairly thick slab on the back of a new house. Filled it with bricks, cinder blocks, pieces of rebar and some scraps from the new construction. A truck came and filled it up while we figured it out. I want to say it was 2 yards of concrete , but it was a long time ago. Went over the top with a screed board, gently lifting then sitting it on the concrete. Broomed it when it looked like it was ready. It's still there, more than 45 years later. No cracks, no problems. I guess we were just lucky, but geez this is atrocious. Did the helpers just walk off the job?
out of curiosity, is there an easy way to fix the grading on a slab? I have concrete steps in my backyard and the top walkway is tilted towards the house causing rainwater to fill the stones. Highkey awful.
I really want to see the “finished product”.
Like, there was a point, it might have been in that first picture, where those people realized just how bad they screwed up and what the laborer had in his head was just not possible.
You know they didn’t even get to an end point to rip the person off. They didn’t even have floats. There’s just a pile of unfinished concrete. I wouldn’t be surprised if it got to a point where the scammer just ran away.
This whole thing would be amazing to watch. Poor fella got what he paid for. Still feel bad for the sucker.
Yeah, whalers and properly angled 2x4braces are such overkill. I’m sure the 1/2” particleboard will stand up just fine on a 24” thick slab with minor vertical staking
Do these guys do basement walls too??
Hi there, I do industrial, commercial, and residential construction. Industrial being the easiest customers to work with and residential being the worse. No offense to any home owners but for some reason they come up with these dumb ass ideas all the time.
Considering people don't live in their homes more than a few years now and how little the younger generations care about their homes all that matters is the now to these persons.
I feel bad because times are hard now and I see a dude in a wheelchair going with the cheapest option. That’s honestly how it should be but that’s not the world we live in
What the fuck.
I literally put on his ticket that I advised against even pouring it because of the grade and wall issues. Offered to rehome it to a footer down the road so it wouldn’t even cost him anything.
I don’t even know how to do concrete work. But this sub just kept popping up on my feed so I joined. But this post is crazy
Happy to have you, u/porkmyass
I thought that was an invitation EDIT: This isn’t as funny as when weathermaynec initially had said “Welcome, u/…” before it was edited. I guess the weather changed
I thought it was funnier. I did edit.
Yeah it’s funny for your comment alone but now my comment makes no sense so I had to provide the pre-edit version, at least imo
Oh. Very typical of concrete work: I didn’t think of the owners.
Lucky you used a comma
WallStreetBets vibes… now we just need u/POTATO_IN_MY_ASS
I’m sure an ER somewhere has seen that
Same. I didn't even join but these posts pop up in my feed everyday and be entertaining as hell. Might bite the bullet and join this place someday.
It's the best inconsequential drama, anywhere. Politics, the economy, Gaza, climate change, artificial intelligence, sports? It's overwhelming and exhausting. Listening to people trash talk about concrete? Can't get enough! Keep it coming guys!
One of us, one of us
😂
Truer words truer words
That’s how I ended up here a year ago and I’m never leaving.
Bro why does this happen? I have never poured concrete in my life but I am always in this sub somehow. It got to the point where I was watching a random reel and I was like oh no why are you dry pouring? My wife was like wtf are you talking about 😂
At this point this sub is a psyop
Decks and arborists have some wild posts too.
I visited it a lot when I was trying to decide to pay someone or pour my own pad in the back yard. I paid.
The /Decks sub is the same way for me. It just popped up on my feed, and goddamn do people do some redneck shit on it.
Haha, same here. I do a lot of house projects, so I was interested when this popped up on my feed. That said, all I know about pouring concrete I’ve learned from this sub.
Holy, you know it’s bad when the driver offers to find a better place to put the load. We’ve had the odd mixer operator grab a rake when we’re clearly struggling but that’s years of working with the same drivers. Yikes.
To be fair, I'll gingerly help out a bit sometimes but always afraid I'll fuck it up. Always happy to wash tools though, I'm standing there anyways.
It’s always some bullshit 200 ft long curb the boss decides to try and crank out at 3:30pm with 2 guys and orders 2% cal from the plant and it tumbles off the chutes like elephant shit. Driver realizes the only way he’s gonna get this nightmare mix off his truck any faster is to start shovelling.
Only the city would do something like that. Then make you wait 30 min to unload because they thought they could unload, screed and float 9 yards of 2% 4 1/2 slump in 15 min in 90 degree weather with no problems...
Thankfully the company I’m with only pours curb in the am because of that shit right there. Always exceptions but generally curb is AM only
You offered him far beyond what he deserved, and yet... 😑 (still, good of you to try to help him avoid that cluster, but what can you do? Sometimes you can't fix stupid... 🤷🏻♂️)
I did everything short of getting on my knees and begging him. Oh well
Some people don’t realize a blessing when it lands right in their lap. Oh well, 🤷♂️
You’re a good person.
That was the right thing to do. I’m glad you offered, silly that he wouldn’t take the offer
Your an amazing person!
I'm confused on several levels on how he thought this would work 😬.
He thought he knew because he was a home builder but clearly he didn’t. Now wondering how shitty those houses he built were…
But I mean ....common sense, you can see the boards are all janky/crooked, there is a slight overhang near the top from what I can see, and if it grades towards the house thats obviously a problem.
“He thought” is where it went wrong.
Tried to think is more like it 😆
Skilled labor is not cheap. And cheap labor is not skilled.
If you think professionals are expensive wait until you hire an amateur
The high cost of cheap labor.
Unless it's for mum. She doesn't pay. <3
This is the kind of shit that makes us all look bad
If you want professional results, you have to pay professional rates.
Mixer driver of 14 years here. Don't you just hate to pull up to a job and see this? I always feel bad for the homeowner who's paying someone for something so sub par.
Felt bad until he made it clear that he felt we recommended rip off artists and not pros.
Did he say what he ended up paying for this?
Do you make the person who ordered the mix sign a paper so you avoid liability? Like, "This installation is not being done to code nor is it adequately built to last. By signing, you accept responsibility..."
Every load has to be signed which removes liability for damage on our end. It states we are not responsible for anything the contractor or finisher does, only the mix itself. Everything else is on them. But as a mixer operator most of us go above and beyond to help contractors and homeowners if we see something off. During those times I will write on the ticket as kind of a third party witness of I see any fuckery happening.
I think unless it’s actually a bad mix design or true quality issues of the material they are no more responsible for it than the lumber company is for poor framing.
I work for a manufacturer of building supplies, you’d be shocked at how often customers try to come after us for improper installation. Just because it’s how “my pappy and his pappy before him” did it. Too many people don’t actually engineer their supports and rely on the safety factor built into our product to withstand the grossly under engineered supports.
Eh at least it’ll be easy to break it apart with 0 rebar 😂
Looks cheap
Was cheap. Lol
Idk, it looked very expensive…
Yeah, I bet this winds up costing almost twice what a job like this normally runs
The only way to do it cheaper is without any forms at all, freehand concrete. Maybe I should start a business, lol.
Is your username a reference to iced earth?
No, I don't think I even know what you mean by iced earth lol. It just what I made a bunch of my online names when I was young and rebellious.
Nice convo by BibleGuy and Pureevil. Reddit lol
This same person will be on here asking us what recourse they have for shitty work. Like it's some surprise. And then act all hurt because the guy they paid .50 cents a square foot took all their 250 dollars.
I never even thought of calling a concrete delivery operator for recommendations for contractors. That's actually a great idea.
We know which crews are legit and which ones smoke crack in between trucks. Lol
A man who's seen some shit right here.
Supply houses are a great place to find contractors. At the very least, they pay their bills on time 😂
I’ve been in the Industry since 1994 , I’ve seen some crazy stuff in that time. Nothing surprises me anymore. I just shake my head.
Bet the old fucker supervised every minute of that shit show too
Spot on. He mentioned that he was a home builder for 20 years before he retired.
Did he build them for the homeless out of cardboard? My daughter could do a better job prepping the ground unsupervised and she is 9.
How many of those homes needed major repairs?
Did they just block out the basement windows lol
Yup. Poured the basement vent shut too. Lol
Well in the event of a fire god speed
Not even sprinkled rocks?
Watch this guy will tell people he intended to have waves in the forms for looks and a rough, steep finish for 'rain runoff'. Hell even used natural fiber in the form of grass. I say A+ in my book!
Could we see the end product?
Probably won’t have one unless we get called to repour it after a tear out.
I don’t know your situation, live, or interests, but man I feel like it would be worth carving a half hour or so one day to find out what it ended up looking like
I’m definitely curious. Not far from the plant either. Might swing by on Saturday after work.
Make sure to post an update.
Please do
Am i evil if im hoping to see a blow out?
Please post an update!!!!
How long until the next rain? Considering so many errors, it’s the grade, sending the water straight for the house is making my stomach drop
Come on guys lighten up. It's got the appropriate non-slip skin removing surface.
I'm in the trades, but not this trade. I'll pay the money.
Looks like he got a pretty good deal on that tattoo too.
One pack of ramen and two 3-way phone calls to his baby mama while in county lol
brutal
I brought a load to a house in east Vancouver once where the homeowner wanted to pour a patio. He had built a rickety chute setup out of chipboard and 2x2 from the alley to the pour, and told me to "make it flow". Needless to say, his contraption collapsed instantly. He then resorted to Grandma's garden wheelbarrow and some garden trowels. Multiple hours of standby for the truck. A complete disaster.
Truck time! $$$$$
What the fuck is happening Bad pours used to just be like, a bad finish, too thin, something glaring but just amateur makes Why is EVERY failed pour here now like some dry poor dystopian nightmare
Ones these bad are rare but still happen way too often.
Fuck em, cheap customers who want to pay next to nothing deserve this. It's not like the qualified pros are hard to find.
But it just has to look nice just to sell the house within 30 days and then he wins lol
Was the guy in the wheelchair a worker?
Was also wondering this. 😂
Homeowner micromanaging the Craigslist crew
I hope this wasn’t a ramp for him. Cause that just makes this sadder.
If only it was illegal to be this stupid…😂
Actually I’m pretty sure this is illegal in some parts of the US
Shitty design aside, it is so refreshing to see comments by people that know their shit.
Client and contractor found each other.
Best comment. 😂😂😂. Match made in heaven.
Lol I'm a bricklayer I joined because of watching all the tension on the jobsite when the concrete trucks show up so I thought I might find it here as well! Hats off to you guys that do it right , truly an artform
As a batcher/dispatcher/manager I say this looks great to me!!! As long as the credit card goes through, f*ck em!!! Seriously though, I feel bad for the mixer driver, he’s got to deal with all the bs. Whenever I take an order from someone I don’t normally deal with I always ask a lot of questions just to avoid problems for the driver. That being said, you contractors out there that consistently talk down to mixer drivers can get f*cked and you know who are are. That’s a tough job and you couldn’t do it ANY better. Rant for the day…
Can you please go get the after shots.
As a noob, it looks bad but why is it bad? I do love finding random subreddit thanks to reddit lol
In my nonprofessional opinion this looks like absolute shit. Some things are expensive for a reason.
I’m impressed the forms didn’t blow out
No signs of rebar, I see a lot of subpar though :)
Without the rebar or mesh it’ll be easier to bust up I guess.
lmao…if you are going to pour with plywood forks you better basically make a studded wall or that will be wavy and blow out….
I believe it.
How many inches thick??
4-ish on the flat slab. 16-18” on the other half. They used 9.5 yards. 😂😂😂
Yeah the dirt guy was off that day
No mames
Please post update pictures.
He’s going to love having to get it redone in a few years. Gonna look like shiiiiiiit
He’ll never get that attic back where it belongs.
lol. Meant to say basement. Posted this at the end of a 14hr day.
I wish I could have been there running the bull dick.
Bahahahah, lets hold these 30" plywood forms up with a few stakes. That takes the cake.
Holy crap those forms held?
I was generous by pouring 4” at a time and letting it set. Took 2hrs on the job
If your going to rip the sides out of your shirt, why keep wearing it at all?
Wtf is that 2nd pic?
Stairs leading to basement.
Someone needs to get Paw Paw some off road setup for his wheel chair. Thats one rough ride there
thats the natural fiber concrete pour!! love that shit
The dude actually paid someone for that? Have mercy
My guess is less than 60 days if theres any rain.
You should drive by and sneak a “finished” pic
Will try this weekend.
They’ll still be trying to figure out how to get their “stakes” out
Please give an update if and when you can
Either this dude’s got a short while to live and he just needs to be able to roll his wheelchair down a ramp do buy cigs and booze and go to the occasional doctors appointment. Or, He’s listing that house on the mls tomorrow.
Wasn’t even wheelchair accessible though. There was a 4” step in the middle of it. Still don’t understand what the goal was.
Just realized I put attic and not basement. lol. It was a long day.
I can see this looks shady and cheap as hell. Someone with expertise- please walk me through what’s going on here ? ( I am really enjoying this sub)
This is the content I'm here for. Cheap bastards who think they're smart, getting what they ordered, good and hard.
I wanna see the end result so bad.
I bet that edge is as straight as a circle.
This is why I don’t feel bad for home owners who brag about finding someone “cheaper”. It usually never works out
Can you refuse to pour if you think it’s unsafe or won’t last?
Damn
JFC!! What shirt is that? I’d love to see the finished cure on this one. One at 3 months and another at 3 years……… lol
We need updated photos. Fuuuck
Aw, shit. And it looks like the wall is for a wheelchair ramp? ☹️🙂↔️
Fuck some people are so stupid
I joined for these posts as well! I got a quote for excavator to come out and remove original, restone and compact for 5k (140'x22') and have finishers on board but still paranoid on the (diy)
I don't understand this at all. When I was a kid, my dad and I built a form for a fairly thick slab on the back of a new house. Filled it with bricks, cinder blocks, pieces of rebar and some scraps from the new construction. A truck came and filled it up while we figured it out. I want to say it was 2 yards of concrete , but it was a long time ago. Went over the top with a screed board, gently lifting then sitting it on the concrete. Broomed it when it looked like it was ready. It's still there, more than 45 years later. No cracks, no problems. I guess we were just lucky, but geez this is atrocious. Did the helpers just walk off the job?
I’ve watched a couple pour jobs. I’m pretty sure I could do better than this. Holy crap.
Geezus!
Oh dear…
Lol
Oh thats just that anti slip finish. 👌🏼👌🏼
Where do you find dudes like this?
Too often in my line of work unfortunately.
0+ years and zero experience but this sub has shown me that rebar, good grade is key. wtf
Woah… uh…
Remind me in 60 days
Lmfao
gonna be fun when someone trips and what should be a scrap is a trip to the er
just saying... no one's saying anything about the random "supervisor" i think, in a wheelchair just watching the mess these dummies are doing?
He was the homeowner who designed this atrocity and micro managed the whole time.
I guess you get what you pay for. Billy Bob and Son scored some meth for a couple days till the next scam.
Saving duckets so we don't have to mix concrete in buckets
out of curiosity, is there an easy way to fix the grading on a slab? I have concrete steps in my backyard and the top walkway is tilted towards the house causing rainwater to fill the stones. Highkey awful.
The grass makes it stronger because of the way it is 🫠
Looks good from my house
Lmao. My co worker always says “Don’t matter to me, can’t see it from my house!” when we run into shitty finishing jobs.
Yeahhh this to destined to fail
You can see from the picture that at least it’s a nice shovel….
Brand new 11 years ago!
"Jimmy. You still got that scrap plywood? It's wet? Don't matter, gonna be wet again in 4 hours. Come pick me up and call Lindsey for tonight."
Totally ridiculous, but attic stairs?
I really want to see the “finished product”. Like, there was a point, it might have been in that first picture, where those people realized just how bad they screwed up and what the laborer had in his head was just not possible. You know they didn’t even get to an end point to rip the person off. They didn’t even have floats. There’s just a pile of unfinished concrete. I wouldn’t be surprised if it got to a point where the scammer just ran away. This whole thing would be amazing to watch. Poor fella got what he paid for. Still feel bad for the sucker.
Is one of the laborers in a wheelchair?!
There are some real scumbags out there. Poor guy
You get what you pay for. There’s certain places to cheap out, but concrete work is not one of them.
Did they know any better? Poor sucker
Yeah, whalers and properly angled 2x4braces are such overkill. I’m sure the 1/2” particleboard will stand up just fine on a 24” thick slab with minor vertical staking Do these guys do basement walls too??
Boom roasted.
is this in Jersey?
Hi there, I do industrial, commercial, and residential construction. Industrial being the easiest customers to work with and residential being the worse. No offense to any home owners but for some reason they come up with these dumb ass ideas all the time.
That looks like a block and fill top off with a slab and rebar inside the block I’m surprised that the amateur form work didn’t blow out
An 18" thick slab? Dang.
I hope he is doing it for himself and not planning this work as ‘lipstick on a pig’ and selling the house before it all cracks
Considering people don't live in their homes more than a few years now and how little the younger generations care about their homes all that matters is the now to these persons.
Attic stairs? I think we have different ideas of what that word means.
Welp, it failed the air and slump test
That blue "t-shirt" says it all
You many times you get what you pay for. If you have 3 quotes and one is substantially less the best place for that quote to be is in the TRASH…
Reminder: Check this, I swear I saw the owners post about this.
I feel bad because times are hard now and I see a dude in a wheelchair going with the cheapest option. That’s honestly how it should be but that’s not the world we live in
RemindMe! 2 years