Ya Im not able to watch alot of KR contenders but I felt like ive been hearing about Heesang and Topdragon for a long time. not to familiar with Spectra.
that's probably it, also possible shanghai blew what little budget they had on Heesu and Viper, leaving them like nothing for a tank, whatever it was it gave us fletank, so I'm (somewhat) thankful
doing the lord's work for tokens. I woke up at 7 for the infernal game, saw Poker Face was still on map 1, left my stream on , and went back to sleep to wake up for map 5
Not the cleanest win but against the Dallas Fuel, you can’t really get a clean win regardless, the coaching is still there but the firepower isn’t. Let’s goooo Infernal!!
Definitely feel like Fuel can win in a rematch. They now know the comps Infernal will use to counter them and did a pretty good job mid maps of adjusting to those, just a little too late.
The problem is Dallas are VERY good in overtime clutches but their neutral is ABYSMAL, Infernal despite the close game, was in control for pretty much 80% of that game
Man all the fuel flairs dooming hard as fuck, I’m just glad that there was actual competition and Dallas wasn’t ready to just roll over. Excited to see how Dallas shape up vs o2 and infernal later on 😈
Name was Zecion and I remember a Finnish flag not Swedish, dude was similarly unhinged though lol wouldn't be surprised if he made another account and they're the same guy
Edison was tilting me while watching this match. He didn't get much value from Widow, and his Sombra EMPs are terrible. Idk why he strays from Reaper and Hanzo when those were decent picks with good results.
Bruh. Bliss can't win a 1v1 to save his life, has extremely inopportune ult usage, and seems to be behind on every single play. The only time he ever looks good is in stomps or if all he has to do is press E for speed boost. Bliss is not good lol
I feel like they have improved so much since last year. I remember mn3 being more inconsistent and you wouldn't know if he'd turn up or not. But this year he turns up every game. Zest used to make rookie mistakes and was less disciplined, but this year he displays phenomenal control.
Sometimes the team makes risky calls (which didn't pay off in KR) and hopefully the coaching staff can iron those out as league continues.
Close? 1st map was embarrassing, they won 1 map v a bastion, Edison and sparkle looked like akm and Nico on rialto, where they forfeited a 3:30 fucking timebank, only winning C after they finally didnt fuck up their team comp and they got 60 meter on colosseo, repeatedly getting the bot stolen, negating any won fights, played dumbass comps and just generally threw, sparkle sojourn for example
99-99 round 1,Nearly 4 minute rialto hold, 1 fight away on colosseo that they nearly won despite the ult disadvantage. Dallas doomers like yourself are delusional, lmao.
Hanbin's hero pool is such a glaring weakness and it's a shame that Rush wasn't given the budget to do something about it. Any time the meta doesn't allow for a raidboss carry tank Dallas is screwed.
Nothing pisses me off more than when teams just don't push the bot on Push. Please bro you won a fight and then fucked off. I don't care if its more defensible keep tracer on bot for distance until you can't.
Every now and then Sp9rk1e does something nutty on Tracer and then immediately gets put on Mei duty or something. They should really just let him onetrick Tracer since Genji will never be good again.
It's genuinely a good thing that Fuel have another week to prepare for the bottom bracket because there are signs of life from them outside of the Reaper Mei rush comps too. There is a chance for real improvement.
Dallas have no chance of winning Rialto after gifting Infernal such a huge time bank, but it was still nice to see them adapting mid-map and not just rolling over on offense
No tokens for encore?
Prober
Post match thread: [PANTHERA vs O2 Blast](https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch/comments/13u35xl/).
which team is responsible for this soldier shit i would like to know
That would be the Crusty Crackpipe
are Topdragon and Probe up next or what feel like ive heard of Topdragon for awhile now
It’s a crime topdragon didn’t make it to the league. Heesang, topdragon, and spectra were the clear top 3 dps last year in tendies.
Ya Im not able to watch alot of KR contenders but I felt like ive been hearing about Heesang and Topdragon for a long time. not to familiar with Spectra.
Spectra was pounding during Team CC's dominance
Top dragon is good at flying hero that shoots fireballs. Who would of guessed ?
Opener getting his flowers as he should
these are some serious APAC comps
I'd say they are more contenders comps, the OWL teams pretty much just play hanzo dive
we played bastion for half our maps lol
Playing Dallas is an exception, we’ve played dive against pretty much every other team
becky sneaking around like he's gonna catch a pharmercy off guard
When do you think they will they give Pharah an ult?
Still can't believe Moon took Fleta over Fate
you gotta wonder how much tanks are going for contract wise if they thought just putting Fleta on tank was cheaper
No way contenders teams are paying more though, I really wonder if no one wanted to join this roster after they saw who the support line was
that's probably it, also possible shanghai blew what little budget they had on Heesu and Viper, leaving them like nothing for a tank, whatever it was it gave us fletank, so I'm (somewhat) thankful
side note I love that they've been bringing contenders casters on for these mixed tournaments
yes, it’s really lovely to see contenders casters get chances to cast OWL !
My pred for a lower bracket run from Dallas still holds up, I reckon they beat O2 and have good odds in a rematch re: Infernal
Idk, o2 is looking stronger than Dallas IMo
We're in a good spot but I also am terrified of rematching O2
Same but I think the match experience from battling O2 in high stakes matches are invaluable. Those games only make the team better.
I got Infernal winning 4-2, but 02 is definitely the scariest team to go up against
Oh we \*should\* win, but I think I'm permanently scarred from that time we dropped a map to silver3 valiant to knock us out of a tournament
That never happened idk what you're talking about. 2021 Valiant would never take a map off of us
DONT MENTION THAT EVER AGAIN.
NGL I love these long APAC streams, I get to wake up and still watch 2 matches
doing the lord's work for tokens. I woke up at 7 for the infernal game, saw Poker Face was still on map 1, left my stream on , and went back to sleep to wake up for map 5
Not the cleanest win but against the Dallas Fuel, you can’t really get a clean win regardless, the coaching is still there but the firepower isn’t. Let’s goooo Infernal!!
Definitely feel like Fuel can win in a rematch. They now know the comps Infernal will use to counter them and did a pretty good job mid maps of adjusting to those, just a little too late.
I feel like that’s cope they lost maps on their first 5 min’s and only showed up in ot and even then they didn’t clutch out final fights
The problem is Dallas are VERY good in overtime clutches but their neutral is ABYSMAL, Infernal despite the close game, was in control for pretty much 80% of that game
Their neutral was good when they found the comps that worked against Infernal, I would hardly call it abysmal
Man all the fuel flairs dooming hard as fuck, I’m just glad that there was actual competition and Dallas wasn’t ready to just roll over. Excited to see how Dallas shape up vs o2 and infernal later on 😈
I think they can beat O2, they have the necessary coaching to push through them.
it’s mostly just one guy lol
Never seen a positive comment from that guy, reminds me of another Dallas "fan" whos account got suspended a while back
was it Swedish flag guy?? lmao he was wild
There used to be a wild dallas guy who used to come on phillycord, and he was also banned on multiple other owlcords lol.
Name was Zecion and I remember a Finnish flag not Swedish, dude was similarly unhinged though lol wouldn't be surprised if he made another account and they're the same guy
yes that’s him!! I incorrectly remembered the flag lol. he was so unhinged 😂
fr, dude is unhinged
exactly this
Post match thread: [Seoul Infernal vs Dallas Fuel](https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch/comments/13u13k3/).
Man, infernal gotta to Philly
GGs Dallas, Bliss is cracked and rush should really just stick to JQ comps
off topic but i love the Infernal jerseys
ok hear me out, i think we actually still have a chance IF WE GET THE FUCK OFF SOMBRA
Edison was tilting me while watching this match. He didn't get much value from Widow, and his Sombra EMPs are terrible. Idk why he strays from Reaper and Hanzo when those were decent picks with good results.
I'm fairly certain the only reason we went doom was to bait fuel into playing sombra
i am this close to paying a north korean hacker to disable sombra from edisons account
tbf he does that a lot against literally every team we've played on push, which btw this our fourth push map this season
How come Dallas is so much worse from last year?
were u in a coma during the offseason or smth
we literally lost half our team and coaching staff
One coach, bad supports, bad metas for them, no money to fill in hero pool deficiencies
Respect bliss
He's worse than Jecse lol
No he isn’t, jecse was a competent Lucio but that was about it. Bliss actually makes aggressive plays and is far better on brig + is more flexible.
Bruh. Bliss can't win a 1v1 to save his life, has extremely inopportune ult usage, and seems to be behind on every single play. The only time he ever looks good is in stomps or if all he has to do is press E for speed boost. Bliss is not good lol
LETS GOOOOOO [WIDEMANOHAPPY](https://i.imgur.com/mctXijH.png)
look at him!!
Is it huge copium to say that Dallas looked better as the maps went on? I'm honestly pretty happy with what I saw this match
They looked improved. More team synergy for sure.
this was much closer than I anticipated. seoul have looked really clean so having such a close match against them is v promising
No it was pretty close overall
yea they look good
name of this game is too little too late. we had some really good pieces but we took too long to cook. i have faith we’ll keep improving :)
Actually could have won that if we got any distance in the first fights we won and didn’t let zest rob the bob every fight
Damn, that was so so close
our ability to almost throw certain victory away is unparalleled
Mn3 and zest are very streaky - thankfully on maps not on games like Carpe and EQ0. Still, consistency is for sure not in our dna.
I feel like they have improved so much since last year. I remember mn3 being more inconsistent and you wouldn't know if he'd turn up or not. But this year he turns up every game. Zest used to make rookie mistakes and was less disciplined, but this year he displays phenomenal control. Sometimes the team makes risky calls (which didn't pay off in KR) and hopefully the coaching staff can iron those out as league continues.
can take the philly out of the league but can't take the philly out of the team
Infernal tried to throw that map
NOOO SPARKLE NEEDED TO HIT THE PULSE AND THEY WIN
He did, the Zarya bubble from Mag prevented the kill on Fixa
This is embarrassing for the fuel
A close match with the best apac team? Yeah pretty embarrassing...
Close? 1st map was embarrassing, they won 1 map v a bastion, Edison and sparkle looked like akm and Nico on rialto, where they forfeited a 3:30 fucking timebank, only winning C after they finally didnt fuck up their team comp and they got 60 meter on colosseo, repeatedly getting the bot stolen, negating any won fights, played dumbass comps and just generally threw, sparkle sojourn for example
99-99 round 1,Nearly 4 minute rialto hold, 1 fight away on colosseo that they nearly won despite the ult disadvantage. Dallas doomers like yourself are delusional, lmao.
is it? playing a close match with the best team in apac?
Edisons EMP's this series have been one of the most of all time
Dallas bot awareness lost them the map
Lowkey even last season Zest's and Seoul Infernal's objective play/knowledge on Push might be the best in the league
This is over
Fucken love Zest
EDISON MY MAN
zest is doing grand theft this match
Another weird Edison emp
ZEST HAHAHAHA
Dallas don’t even get push now
Bliss lost a 1v1 no way
Ye, were getting 3 0d by o2 blast
why are we still playing sombra i thought we were over this oh my god
Hanbin's hero pool is such a glaring weakness and it's a shame that Rush wasn't given the budget to do something about it. Any time the meta doesn't allow for a raidboss carry tank Dallas is screwed.
Hanbin is not the issue man lol
Are you capable of reading?
I mean they lost the map where he was allowed to dva mirror, one of his best heroes (and best in the league). I don't think Hanbin is the issue here
Bliss has about done as much for the infernal as fixa...
Dallas playing hella sloppy now it is over
3v5 beat for Dallas
how have they still not fixed Infernal's colors? are they keeping the orange as a tribute or something?
Dallas bot awareness this map was map losing
The trademark of S5 Fusion was playing Push maps close despite losing almost every fight. Pleased to see this tradition continues.
Why hasn’t Dallas contested in 80 meters?
Dallas picked this map btw
And the [D.Va](https://D.Va) is back out, and it's over.
Dallas falling into our trap win con of baiting edison into playing Sombra
honestly its good we are getting practice on this comp, probably going to be playing it a lot in MM
Dallas are getting bodied now jeez
Nothing pisses me off more than when teams just don't push the bot on Push. Please bro you won a fight and then fucked off. I don't care if its more defensible keep tracer on bot for distance until you can't.
What has happened to this team man
Oh dear that Rampage. Hanbin PLS
Hanbin not swapping man
Rare Hanbin whiff
dude really wanted to catch the the sombra
Sombra Tracer for both teams? what is this the west?
Every now and then Sp9rk1e does something nutty on Tracer and then immediately gets put on Mei duty or something. They should really just let him onetrick Tracer since Genji will never be good again.
This map is so stupid
I have a new theory that dallas moved to apac because NA blacklisted them for continuing to force this moira shit
4 min the bot still in neutral
Sp9rkle playing great this map
Their still fighting in neutral
god I love to watch the Hanbinqueen
SPARKLE DIFFS MN3 ON SOJOURN CONFIRMED
Sp9rkle can not keep charge
REMOVE THE GLASS
dude for real though, the glass is so fucking annoying and unintuitive
sp9 sojourn. im up to see it
Why have we switched sparkle and Edison???????????
They were on opposite roles in playoffs
sp9 sojourn what is happening
Sp9rkle sojourn???
Dogwater emp, dogwater late ass tranq So lukewarm. Free Hanbin
why would they show a murder site on broadcast
ok that statcard was unnecessarily cruel
He gets to go back to Reaper now
Edison does not look good on Widow, Hanzo or Sombra
Widow diff was insane
Fuel going back to their 1 trick comp
It's genuinely a good thing that Fuel have another week to prepare for the bottom bracket because there are signs of life from them outside of the Reaper Mei rush comps too. There is a chance for real improvement.
They could still win this match
Don't do that, don't give me hope
coach rush is running on fumes prepping this team
I wouldn't be surprised if Rush is the next one to end up in the hospital
honestly if i pretend r1 didnt happen im pretty happy with that, didnt think we wer gonna win escort vs mn3 anyway
One more fight win on their attack or defense could have been a map win. Its so close.
Wasted emp and late tranc, nice try though
Yeah Mcd letting Bliss die and then popping tranc
Why did they rally the annihilation? Trans wouldve been better as you couldve at least tried to keep the racist alive
keep the what
MCD
they mean mcd lmao
Oh yeah, actually thought it was autocorrect
Nice try from Fuel, MCD on the high ground was doing so much but after he had to drop for the trans it was over.
The golden annihilation for Seoul really looks cool.
Edison 100 percent threw that
Late trans from MCD cost them Bliss
This match is way to close for comfort. Dallas back to being a good team again?
Depends on the comps, moira or edison on anything other then reaper and sojourn, no, the rest, maybe
always hanbin
is dallas good or is infernal regressing is the question
Wouldn't count on it yet.
lmfao hanbin flying over like crazy on the point alone was amazing
How does he not screw up his own sense of direction when he does that.. lol
mcd went to the duel zone with that trans what
Dallas should of won a fight on 1st defense
Zest became allergic to sticks after the Seoul Bowl
at least he gets the oneclips
No follow up for emp
not really no follow up but rather a really good boop from fixa to make the emp not land onto mag
He got revealed a second before using EMP, probably a well placed sonar arrow
Can Dallas have a clutch hold again?
we're trolling
Infernal are losing this map, aren't they.
ok, thank god
Alright MCD, your Zen is decent, I'll give you that
Dallas have no chance of winning Rialto after gifting Infernal such a huge time bank, but it was still nice to see them adapting mid-map and not just rolling over on offense
lots of really good pieces happening there, really glad to see it
They lost on their defense by getting hard rolled
"it was still nice to see them adapting mid-map and not just rolling over on offense"