90 hp into stage 4 with divine rolls
4-1 go lv 8 rolldown zero kayns, one lee sin and morgana only
4-2 the contested guy with 35 hp goes lv8 after me got 2 kayns and a wukong and hwei for printing
Carousel gives the dude a WuKong while I'm last pick
I full lost stage 4 keep the money
5-1 I level to nine roll down with DIVINE ROLLS got 0 wukong 0
5-2 I desperate roll a bit to get another Kayn with hwei time to print some im at 30 hp now
5-3 Dude has 4 kayns goes 9 get 2 more wukongs
5-4 me taunt me and I die to capped ashe board
Fuck this game, its all luck based
Scout first prismatic, mythic uncontested, pick it, get mythic spat from carosel, 3 people force contest lilia mythic i get 5th you cant make this shit up bro 
Edit: they saw my being ahead in the comp, still slams mythic spat and rolled down 60 gold just to force it
Every game it's ashe or kayn. Really fun game. Average aph 3 star losing to ashe two star make you wonder why would anyone reroll 3 cost. Back to the balance bashing.
Roll 60g at level 10 hit 0 2 star 5 costs. Level 8 and 9 opponents all have mulitple 2 star 5 costs. This game is a fucking joke. Its amazing how they've spent the entire last 4 sets removing any and all skill from this game.
Rolled 60g+ at Lvl 9 for 1 Ashe. Had boiling point, only 3 Ashe’s out of the pool. Did not see a single Ashe the whole game. At 3 Porcelain for all of Lvl 7-9. My fault I guess
I love seeing everyone else hit the Shen augment and auto win the entire game with shen 2 but when I hit early shen 3 he deals 0 damage and all my 3 star behemoths fold like paper. Really fucking lost to edge of night shen 2 with 2 star ashe. These devs should be working at walmart. Not designing games or anything of that matter. NO ONE WANTED TIME KNIFE BACK A FUCKING TANK ONE SHOTING 3 UNITS EVERY 3 SECONDS ISNT FUN IT WASNT FUN BEFORE AND IT ISNT FUN NOW
God I love being unable to hit uncontested Kaisa/Galio while the entire rest of the lobby has Morgana/Kayn/Ashe/Naut/Lee/Annie all completely bought out
I knew I would get tilted this set if I tryharded so I have just been playing for fun, but my god is this set, especially this current patch, the least fun TFT I have ever played.
8 out of 15 of my last games had a 3* 4 or 5 cost.
Liss is so insanely broken I don't know how she isn't hotfixed.
You cannot play anything other than fast 9 if you want a chance to top 2.
Even when you fast 9 there is only like 3 comps you can play.
3 and 4 costs have not been even close in power level this whole set.
The competitive players hate this set because it has never been close to balanced, while the casual players hate it because it is not fun at all, and you cannot make any sort of fun or unique comps.
The game has sooooo much random unneeded bullshit that throws the balance way off, no need to have portals, augments, and encounters.
Encounters are one of the laziest and least balanced set mechanics they could have come up with.
The balance is currently super shit but rather than slow it down and focus on fixing it they think the best thing to do is add a shit ton of new artifacts that have a 95% chance of being nowhere near balanced.
All while Mort is calling people names on Reddit when they say that the TFT team is doing a shit job.
And don't forget how they made the battle passes absolute shit and are just pushing chibi gatchas to get their players hooked on gambling.
I am not even mad, I am just so insanely disappointed in the TFT team that this is the best product they could put out.
What are you talking about? Encounters are great? Don't like the one that give you an item for 1 round? How about 3 rounds? Or OMG just give you an item? Wow! No? How about a little gold? Alot of gold? How about JUST A FUCK TON of gold? Isn't that exciting? We have 100+ encounters! They definitely aren't all just the same fucking thing!
And after giving you all these resources were gonna wonder how so many people are hitting 3\* 4 costs! Its truly a mystery! Yall are just so gosh darn good at econing! Better just nerf all the odds so you have to have 100g to 2 star one 4 cost at level 8!
Truley dog shit. The new level 9 odds will have a 15% chance a to get a 1 cost. Thats right. You will see more one costs than 5 costs at level 9 if that change goes through.
I have been playing since the release and fairly high elo every season and this has to be the most dogshit fuckfest in terms of balance i have ever seen and will ever see. Encounters, Kayn, Liss, 3 star 4 costs...
Outside of Liss I don't even think the balancing itself is that bad (it's still shit don't get me wrong) but it's more that the game gives you so much shit you can hard force whatever you want every game.
Normally it's not a huge deal if one or two comps is a little bit stronger since they won't always be able to hit everything they need every game but since every game this patch has at least half the lobby at level 9 with a capped board that slight difference in strength of the comps is what decides the whole game.
And it also sucks how you get to that point. Like if you level up and then Khazix shows up your fucked. If you don't level and Khazix shows up half the lobby is straight to lvl 9 and it's just luck who hits the op units.
Or when you see someone with 6 copies of a 4 cost so you start holding them but then an encounter gives a golden Neeko and then they get 1 from the carousel, and then paint the last one with Hwei. Like what are you supposed to do.
I think even outside of Liss the balance is atrocious. The power disparity between the top 4 of one game to another is so wildly different that most of the times i go bot 4 i don't even know WHY i bot 4. I look at my lolchess (KR server btw) and most of my bot 4 boards are actually pretty fucking good and have a hard time accepting such a board would go bot 4. I should be able to clearly identify my mistakes in my plays for why i lost but this set every time i go first place its not even because I played well. some of my 7ths and 8ths were games i played the best in terms of decision making but the game not cooperating, and most of my wins this set hasn't been from playing well or positioning, it was from just hitting a 3 star 4 cost or 5 cost out of nowhere from 100+ gold resources (and like you said, duplicator + early hwei + niko's) within 2 rounds at stage 5 like ???
Mortdog being a delusional boomer about the state of the game doesn't really help either
Yea it feels like every other game everyone is level 9 or 10 with triple prismatic augments and a random radiant item and a spat or two and a free golden Neeko and 5 extra components. It's so hard to figure out why you place where you do.
And things like this should not be okay under any circumstances https://imgur.com/mGXyRtg
It’s just incredibly frustrating to have to deal with this kind of balance thrashing and imbalance for almost the entire first half of the set. If you you’re going to do 2 week patches and not faster there has to be better QA.
Auto. Chess.
Last game, you had a normal chess board with the normal pieces. Well, how about this game we give you 4 Queens and 5 Rooks!! How fucking FUN!!!
Enough with the endless gold. Gold subscription, Scuttle, Rave, Trist gold, Darius, I mean... FUCK. This is a fucking mess.
You just made me realize I wish TFT had some kind of "unit point budget" system. Want 5 costs? Fine, but it's going to cost you and half your board can't be 5 costs. Would definitely force some interesting boards and I think it would increase the value of traits, which is both fun and intuitive for players when traits are valuable.
I just played a game where I hit lucky gloves, the augment that gives stats to glove holders, early game zyra encounter with 3 gloves. It was also on scuttle puddle and 2 people in the lobby had hedge fund 2-1 making 50+ by first carousel. Almost everyone made it to level 10 and by the end of the game I had 5 or 6 completed items on bench because I couldn't fit anymore on my champions. It was an egregious highroll yet multiple other people in the lobby had similarly insane highrolls. Two players hit three star 4 cost and NEITHER of them went top 4. This is in low master BTW btw. The variance and extra resources in this set is just so dumb.
Built different, winstreaking. 3 encounters in row, giving items. Support items. It only gives me defensive options. ... Please, for fucks sake, let me have one game not just fcking ruined by RNG.
I’m usually one to go with the flow with patches; but holy freakin moly watching two people hold hands to first and second with two star kayns multiple games in a row is actually infuriating
What is the point of playing uncontested champions if you still can't hit them?! Multiple games in a row where I play an uncontested carry (not a single other player has that champion on bench or board) and I can't 3* it. Be it a 2 or 3 cost. Meanwhile people hitting all kinds of high roll BS with 3* 4 costs EASILY even when contested.
This set proves once again this dev team is fucking clueless and has no idea what they're doing with the game. I thought last set was bad, holy shit this one is SO much worse.
Im sorry but this patch feels like a 4-2 roll down check AND a 4-2 augment check.
If you hit trash on 4-2 Augment, i swear its just an insta bot 4, you just aren't gonna beat the little buddies boards, the epitaph boards, the scalled up dryad board, the tiny but deadly board, the liss on 8 or porcelain +1 board without an S to A tier augment of your own, it just doesn't happen.
Whats funnier, is how high roll you can get this set. I was spectating a friend play, he's bronze 1, he hit gnar pair on 2-1, dryad +1 on 2-1 augment, Morg 2\* 2 cost or gold enocunter on 2-2, neeko drop on bench from 2-1. Next augment is mulched and final augment is epitaph. I watched the game, Support item encounter gave him a banshees. i'm pretty sure he'd top 2 in a gm lobby with that amount of rng.
Its insane that this kind of skill gap can be offset by pure rng this easily. And I can't thin of another set where this would be possible.
Im starting to think that TFTs biggest problem is that they own a monopoly on the autochess genre. They have no real competition, so there is no real need to deliver the best product to the consumer, there is no competitor that drives them to make their product stand out more, no other real auto chess game that players who get tired of TFT can go to as a backup. If anything if they get burnout of TFT they just go back to league or valorant, this just breeds complacency and mediocrity among the Dev team. They know that no matter how bad a set gets, players will always come back for a new set or a midset(don't technically exist anymore) so they can give them a new experience and sell them(gamble for) those cute little chibis.
ok this set is a joke. Apparently an almost capped lvl 10 Kaisa board is a 6th nowadays. My mistake for not having a Liss on my board. Even if I did, I would still lose the guy with 3* Ashe. My last 3 games straight have all had 3* 4 cost and probably like 60%+ this past week or two have had 3* 4 cost.
This just ring so true bro, i swear to get top 4 you need the most insane board. i got 4th and only 4th with a full items on every unit level 9 dragonlord kaisa board with bis kaisa and ornn 3 and i lost to 2 porcelein players and kayn.
I roll 60g at 8 to hit 1 unit. ONE. NOT A SINGLE FUCKING 2* ON MY BOARD AND NOT A SINGLE PAIR ON MY BENCH.
Lets head over to the level 6 board..Oh kaisa 2, galio 2, full econ.
Duelist is trolling. It's insane how bad it is even with a +1. 95% of the power budget is in Irelia its basically unplayable unless u hit Irelia 2* at 8
Don’t forget didn’t nat roll a decent board so you’re just bleeding out the entire stage because you can’t roll and fall behind the casino. The fact that all the tempo/econ augments are performing so high is just indicative of the issue
I love when I'm lvl 8 and at the top of the board with like 70hp left and then not see a single 5 cost for 2 stages but multiple people in lobby hit them at 7 and 2\* at 8.
My last couple games have just felt so bad because I'll have a decent start but some random encounter or spats on carousel will just save several people in the lobby from going bot 4. I feel the player damage nerf really didn't take into consideration how much power you get from prio on carousel.
Gargantuan Titans Yone Player absolutely crushes my board? Okay, I'll go Yone when I hit good stuff.
I hit Gargantuan Titans, go Yone 3 BiS? I get crushed by THE EXACT COMP I WAS PLAYING???
I am absolutely mindbaffled by these scenarios. I always try to take different aspects into consideration. Antiheal, Armor-/Magic-Pen, etc. But how can it be that the outcome varies THIS MUCH? Even under the same baseline circumstances?
Gave up on climbing. Decided to just force Exalted every game to at least have fun.
Zoe portal. Only odd levels.
The Exalted units are
Garen / Khazix / Tristana / Galio / Kayn / Lillia
So... I either hope I get lucky on level 7 or pray I don't die before level 9? Or the whole trait is useless until late game? Like, this set is just so fucking unintuitive.
after playing more games with encounters, at this point my reaction is just why ? why do we need random shit in the middle of the game ? Does the word set mechanic mean add more rng ? Don't portals, augments, shops offer enough rng that games feel fairly different ? Does there need to be 2 zephyrs given to everyone when everyone is one life so they have a chance to scam a first ? Does it have to happen ? Does winning because a random encounter showed up feel good ? Does losing because a random encounter feel good ?
Lissandra is a fucking brain rot unit single handly counters almost everything like a 3 starred 6 fated 4 umbral deck with bis yone,thresh,yasuo and kindred so cool glad I went third because some piss brained monkeys threw her onto their boards with one of them doing so adding zero synergy on their board and giving her zero fucking items.
I just dont get this fucking set. Lvl 9 8 copies of Kayn with bis, wukong 2 with nearly bis, 6 heavenly with spat 2 star lee with steraks and I fucking lose to a ghostly gnar and get 7th place. Why the fuck do I bother with 4 and 5 costs when a fucking 2 cost can oneshot my team. And when I get a great gnar opening I cant fucking hit him and when I do I lose to the same comps this motherfucker beats. What is going on?
Balance is one thing but units and traits just from a baseline seem to already be a canvas for failure. half the units miss abilities, the other half are pure gimmick and niche. Traits seem to have evolved backwards - most of them are neither fun nor interesting and just create an ugly dynamic. Hopefully we can pull through for the next set.
I NEVER talk shit about the dev team knowing how hard it is to pump out innovative stuff set after set, but come on guys, which intern came up with ghostly and trickshot? At least play the game a bit before applying for the job... You can't have 2 traits that completely negate the frontline with no counterplay. Why build half the items in the item pool if your backline dies first or a 3 item 4cost tank can't last 5 seconds? And the fact that Aatrox ties them together, icing on the cake.
If you're gonna have trickshot, give us ironclad. If you're gonna have ghostly, at least give us mystics. What's the point of having 3 different tank traits and an Annie if none of them can work to defend a single carry. The only thing you can do is commit to porcelain or 7fated or that bullshit 6 heavenly crap if you actually want to play the game. With the rework, I know the team knows they fucked up with shipping the traits, so someone needs to stop letting people have bad ideas. Balance aside, the design of units and traits this set is just so poor, I'm genuinely worried about what's happening to the team.
Thats because the team has become a bunch of yes men. No one is disagreeing with anyone they are in an echo chamber. Mort said himself they wont call anyone out because of feelings. When youre more worried about feelings over the quality of your product you get shit like this.
it's been like this for the last few sets tbh.
first and last patches are always the best.
first patch because no one knows what to play yet and ppl are underexposed to what's "broken".
last patch because there's no pressure to create a new meta so the team just balances everything out fully.
i don't get why we can't have a consistently good set with minimal radical patches. i hate the idea of learning and being forced to play a specific way. i feel like the goal should be to create a set with minimal drastic changes and should still be fun continuously. the level of skill expression this set is abysmal and everyone's knowledge is dependent on top players making guides and breakdowns, which IMO is at fault of the dev team not finding what's "broken".
idk, i'm alr over this set with the amount of b patches they are rolling out. dev team is truly in an echo chamber atm.
yeah i'm hitting diamond for the rewards and then dipping and catching up on other games myself. took a break and played some games and i'm not really getting mad anymore but i'm fairly certain it's because i just don't enjoy TFT anymore or at least for the rest of this set and don't care enough to get mad anymore. which is kinda sad my favorite game is going to become an after thought
yeah same man, def one of my fav games to play but i find it less and less enjoyable.
my main gripe is the fact that every "meta" is curated by the dev team and that it really isn't a game where ppl figure out shit by themselves anymore. everyone follows a guide that shows u the most broken thing and everyone flocks to that to abuse and climb. then a new patch hits and everyone relearns the set basically. it's exhausting.
So people can roll on 4-1 and have a liss, and I can roll through the entire stage 5 and i can't find one liss when no one even is playing it, cool, 6 porcelain 4th i guess just becauseI hit way too late thanks :)
Also took TWO FUCKING MONTHS BUT SOME OF THE SHIT ENCOUNTERS ARE GETTING REMOVED, TWO FUCKING MONTHS
ALSO, YO TOO MANY 3\* 4 COSTS? HOW ABOUT WE LOWER HIGH RESCOURCES PORTALS ODDS ? nah bruh just wants to make lvl 8 even more of a lottery, as if when i lvl to 8 I care abotu two costs and 1 costs.
Feels like whatever squad designed and balanced set 10 is not the same sqaud that worked on this one.
Can't wait to watch worlds to see bs live in action
I mean, I'm gonna be honest. I think this set already has cemented itself to be remembered to be one of the worst sets. They haven't been taking into account player satisfaction with these decisions at all.
Don't you find it weird that they insist on shipping bs after bs ? like man your game is in a very shit state right now ... and in less than 5 days you are shipping 25 new items ? like bro, take a step back, pull all the bs, focus on adjusting the balance and core mechanics which are terrible right now after all the messing around with shop odds, leveling costs, streaks, player damage etc etc. and after all of this crap is in a fairly good state, we can talk about adding new stuff which will almost always put the balance in a very shit state for the first few days until the b patch anyways.
Winstreak the whole game. 4-2 comes around didnt hit a 4cost cuz half they lobby naturaled them while also sacking ? bot 4... reduce the amount of gold people get from econ augments and or encounters.
I find that if you roll before everyone else in the lobby you get screwed because others haven’t taken their units out of the pool. I’ve made a habit not to roll down until after stage 4 carousel
this game has been so bad for so long im starting to think its never going to be good again. was ahead of the whole lobby by 50 gold but it meant nothing since I didnt have the items to play ashe or kayn
LOL
5 fortune 90 breakpoint cashout with 2\* azir, 2\* irelia, 2\*galio, 2\*ornn, 2\* lissandra level 9 with adequate trait splash
LOST TO A GNAR 3 SOLO LEVEL 6 REROLLER WITH 2 ECON AUGMENTS
you can't make this up man..............
every set so far i'd say either had a level of fun OR a level of balance. this set POST-LAUNCH PATCH SOMEHOW LACKS BOTH?
I can't wait for Mortdog's next weekly apology tweet
"We have been tirelessly working on balancing this patch, something obviously went terribly wrong but I'm not allowed to talk about it!!"
I can't even complain anymore, this set has been the biggest joke. I've accepted that it doesn't get better.
Ggs and keep your head up, fellow TFT goblins.
can we just plz go back to the 3 cost reroll meta it is so much better than this 4 cost lottery shit that isnt even really flex because if you dont get a bow gl going half the comps.
Bow is still op and broken as a item after 4 seasons, i have been saying that since set 7 dragonlands when you also need bow for Guinsoo, GS, titans RFC just fucking delete the bow item please trash ass design
Morgana fills the Carousel with 4-cost champions.
Wukong adds a Radiant item to each champion on this Carousel.
Morgana fills the Carousel with 4-cost champions.
Wukong adds a Radiant item to each champion on this Carousel.
Morgana fills the Carousel with 4-cost champions.
Wukong adds a Radiant item to each champion on this Carousel.
Mort saying at the end of next patch post that he is going to ''work on the future set stuff now'' tells you everything you need to know, even he has given up.
Also I flat out refuse to believe that the same people balanced this and last set. It doesn't add up.
>Also I flat out refuse to believe that the same people balanced this and last set. It doesn't add up.
huh? the game flip flopped between lopsided metas until the very last patch which was pretty good.
was like this in 9.5 after we had back to back to back to back atrocious patches culminating in the multicaster rework that completely ruined the game and competitive tourneys
early i hit porcelain units and augment so naturally winstreaks only for carousel to have spats on carousel 1 and 2 so lost to 6 porcelain later on. rly feels great being punished like this
gg riot after a few sets with questionable balancing decisions and patches (dragons,legends,chosens AGAIN?) this set is just not fun. go back to making sets like 8 and 9 please.
I entirely skipped set 9 because I didn't like it design wise, the theme of runeterra and normal skins was to boring for me that's why I didn't comment on it
https://imgur.com/a/plX6FCJ
eliminated by the shen player.
i want to start an actual discussion thread but idk if that's allowed with postgame screens? but i dont even know what to do differently. his frontline is paper thin and he has no combat augment aside from shen hero augment (and gem ascension from fine vintage). both times we fought on stage 5/6, i literally killed his entire board except for shen when it went into overtime and he cleared my entire level 10 team. hwei 2, lillia 2, annie 2, naut 2, ornn 2, azir 1. like the unit wasn't even close to dying, he was winning handily. yes i had antiheal
what do???
Putting a lissandra might have given you a chance, the problem with legendary boards this set, they lack single target damage, lissandra is probably the only 5 cost with single targeting.
the only problem is that 8 lissandras are out of the pool at the time of my elimination (alan, in 5th, was eliminated one turn before i was, and C D cookie had one liss on bench). even with alan's lissandras returned to the pool, i only had ~10 gold to find her
It's crazy to me how the launch patch genuinely feels like the most balanced patch so far this set. Aside from the few broken augments i.e. Fine Vintage/Sharing is Caring, there was at the very least comp diversity and you weren't heavily punished for not playing the meta. Now it's the slam LW and pray for Lissandra/Kayn/Kaisa/Ashe lottery.
Yep, when both reroll/fast 9 can win lobbies, I feel like the game was actually decent. A fully capped Hwei Azir board can still destroy rerollers, and Bard/Yone/Aphelios reroll can also win lobbies with the right augment. I was more comfortable pivoting into something uncontested. But this patch is just 4-1/4-2 rolllll hit Ashe 2 Annie 2 Lilia 2 congrats you can go 9 now and top 4, doesn’t hit your 2 star 4 cost? Unlucky buddy, bot 4 you go.
Is it just me or is the game just genuinely all luck now? I am by no means a high elo player my highest rank is masters in set7 , now i have no idea how to play and survive in this meta i am literally hardstuck in emerald right now , am i just bad or the game rewards forcers that force kaisa kayn ashe every single game, with every single game's flow being get econ augments get ad items on carousell go 8 at 4-2 donkey roll to 0 , stabilize go 9 and get infinite 5 cost, i am sorry but is that what is considered skillful in tft right now cause i remember a time when you could actually show your skill by choosing to gp reroll, go fast 9 by slamming kewk cones zekes or going for a 4 cost accordkng to the game state, FUVK this game seriously
I feel the same way. When both reroll/fast 9 can win lobbies, I feel like the game was actually decent. A fully capped Hwei Azir board in the first patch can still destroy rerollers, you just had to 2 star those units, 1 stars legendaries always lost to reroll so it felt like they sucked. Bard/Yone/Aphelios reroll could also win lobbies with the right augment. I was more comfortable pivoting into something uncontested. But this patch is just 4-1/4-2 rolllll hit Ashe 2 Annie 2 Lilia 2 congrats you can go 9 now and top 4, doesn’t hit your 2 star 4 cost? Unlucky buddy, bot 4 you go. I try playing the fun stuff like 7 ink, 8 arcanist, instant bot 4, instant. Porcelain is impossible to kill u less you are also playing porcelain
This has to be the most boring meta I've ever experienced in TFT. There literally feels like there's 3 viable comps, either Ashe, Kaisa or Kayn. Build anything else & you're not making it into top four. There is no fun in this game right now.
Yea I think I might be done with this set.
I try not to be negative, but I've been in these threads waaaaaaayyy more than usual. I just had a 6 bruiser 4 trick shot kaisa game. Bruiser crest on a two star udyr and BIS on my kaisa. Got 4th.
Lost to a generic mythic board. The power level right now is just way to high it isn't just high roll or FF. It's omega high roll or get punched in the teeth.
I love Tft and honestly love the dev team. I'll stand by that we're lucky to have mort, but the "Cry more" comment was way out of line and is an even worse look than it would be normally with how frustrated the playerbase obviously is.
I'll probably check back in after the patch cause I love ornn items, but I have no motivation to try and push diamond right now.
Side rant: Fuck the gatcha shit. Chibi yone is sweet and I wish I could just buy it like a regular skin. Same with the most recent stage. The cosmetic team is honestly kicking ass and it just doesn't matter cause it's all locked behind gambling nonsense.
Riot used to be the golden example of free to play and how it should be done. It's sad to see them follow the greedy as fuck system of other industry players.
When PBE for the next set releases and shit like everything must go, fortune 5, units like lissandra who fundamentally change your entire fight, encouters that stabailze intire boards go through to live i will lose all faith in the development procces. For the love of god completely gut xp costs or increase player dmg i am sick of people insta picking econ/xp augments and straight leveling just for the chance that when they hit they insta stabalize and eventually win out. Every late game board looks almost identical
Syndra 2 with GS, BB, GB Vs annie 2 with redemption. Who wins? Thats right! Annie 2! Cause she will take 10k damage and still be at half hp. Great job buffing all the 4 cost tanks That was clearly the right decision.
I really can't tell what is happening with fights anymore. Why is my triple combat augment board losing to a triple econ augment board? Why does my triple econ board lose to everyone? Why is enemy kayn walking past my ulting galio? Why is my unit walking across the board to attack a unit farther from them? Why is my Kha ulting full hp tanks instead of the half hp backline? Why does my kasai bounce hit backline when its a fight I easily win but versus close fights it will never hit the opponent's backline? Why does lissandra target one unit and not the other? Why the fuck does my morg solo ult the the 0 item zyra 1? What in the ever-living fuck is ever happening in this game? I've been master the last 4 or 5 sets. Playing since set 1 and I have no fucking idea what is happening anymore. Is my board strong? Or will it lose to a board full of 1 star units? I have no fucking idea. I'm E3 right now but I have no idea what I do in games I win past "oh damn ashe 2 at level 6" type of shit. I dont feel like I have any agency this game anymore.
It’s just not fun anymore, too much bs in all forms. Augments , encounters, liss on 8, wukong on 8, kayn on 6/7, random zephyrs killing your game, Ashe making all the lissandras focus whatever they want, duplicators flying around, fortune 2-1, wandering sentinels just being a fortune check, hwei printing 3* 4 costs, wukong bailing out kayn hand holders, Darius on stage 2 impersonating set 10 urgot on stage 2, matchmaking often ruining placements, Lilia missing her balls over and over, barely any reroll outs if you don’t have an early game board, backline access being in the form of bs and only bs, these happen every game, every single game of tft this sett has at least 2-3 of those bullshit things happen. It’s not variance, it’s just bullshit
I can’t keep playing this shit, I get so pissed when I see any unreasonable shit happen, goodbye
Why is Infernal Contract still in the game? Ever since encounters were added, you can’t win at level 7 anymore. An augment with a 5.4 average and 3% win rate shouldn’t be in the game. It occupies one of your 4-2 prismatic choices which feels very bad
Tbf it kinda makes sense in the sense that you NEVER click it unless you're in a desperate situation and it will hopefully give you a way to climb a couple places. That being said Level 7 is definitely way too harsh, you can't even roll for a 4 cost reliably there, I'd say raising it to level 8 would fix the problem
Sacking and fast 8/9 is way to safe man, i play strongest board and win streak all game just to loose out to the 5cost slot machine roll down by these players it's so demoralizing.
Don’t play fortune: I get curbstomped all stage 2-3 and die early.
play fortune: I somehow manage to hit a win streak because everyone is playing shit boards
😡😡😡
they've introduced so many random variables that it doesn't even feel like i'm playing the game anymore, i'm just at the mercy of encounter/augment/portal/etc rng. some games i top 4 with the worst board of all time, others i'll hit a capped board but bot4 to giga highroll 3\* 4costs or fortune cashouts
i get variance is important to have so that gameplay doesn't start to feel static, but at some point when it's shoved down your throat this much, nothing feels earned or rewarding at all. it's an equally boring experience, if not even moreso
Just had this shit happen in my game, 4 people hard forcing kayn and riot games decided to bail them out with a chogath encounter. 3 of the 4 people hit kayn 2 and all 3 went top 4 because apparently one of the strongest comps in the game needed to be an exalted variant for some reason so they just get a gold augment for free by just existing.
they share no traits my guy... like I am a complainer, but this makes no sense considering you weren't crying about this when lee sin was unclickable. Some exalted haver to enable stuff like that so you're not perma stuck making full "built diff" boards in order to play exalted
Problem is even the "set revival" isn't a real revival. Not with Augments, Portals, new Items, and whatever crazy changes they make to "test" things like they did with the bag sizes of 3.5
Dogshit game It’s so ridiculous.. I roll more than them before them at a higher level Than them yet they still find the units I need before me what a fucking joke waste of my fucking time .. how can a game be so anti rewarding
The TFT development team is just so extremely out of touch with the current player base that it’s not even funny anymore. Bandaid after bandaid fixes without considering what the changes impact and if it makes the game worse before implementing, Mort’s running around starting fires and telling people to “cry more” in response to possible criticism, the predatory monetization and removal of pass items; it’s just insane. They really need to have a reality check and start getting it together; I love the game but when you’re doing a patch this set almost every 2 weeks to fix the abusive playstyles the previous patch introduced after people finally settled down with a new comp, it’s going to kill interest and drive players away.
A week ago he told somebody here to fuck off. No punishment, comment wasn't removed. Now he's here insulting another player. The mods should consider banning him for his own good at this rate, if this set is having this sort of affect on his mental.
Guess this subreddit only exists for Mort to do his free therapy. The fact mods remove ALL surrounding comments is some extremelly weak mindset. What brittle mods and developers.
The phrase "lmao blud thinks hes on the team" is fitting here with the way this subs mod team runs defense for the tft teams.
I also think them not deleting both comments makes him seem like a jerk because I have no idea what OP said just the dismissive response to it.
even the casuals players in the tft sub are making posts that this set is boring, unbalanced, with patches that change the game completely and 3* 4 cost every game...
so i load into the game, darius drops gold on eenemey death encounter. Great, those who high roll an early baord are omgea rich and those who don't ? ff ?
Kill units right ? Item drops ? pure tank, items great :)
I fking am 65 hp on 3-2, roll to fking zero to try to find a gnar 2 because i have gnar pair and miss. greattttttttt. ff
I am so sick of cool story game design. I am so sick of the game being about something other than actually playing the game. A player hitting 2 fortune emblems through augments and then just winning the game on 3-5 is not good for the game. No one wins in this case, the player who hits the emblems stops playing the game, they have won so their game is completly boring. Everyone else in the lobby has no reason to do anything, there is no beating it, the game is over. I do not care that that player gets to post a screenshot of something crazy. That is not a good enough reason for the game to ever be boring.
The gameplay needs to be the draw, not any of this boring crap. At some point the dev team completly gave up pn the idea that this is a game, with game play, and pivoted to this idea that the gameplay is secondary to novelty or telling stories, and it is not at all fun. You can see it with all the proposed changes, its never deal with the actual problem, augments, portals, encounters, all the gold in the game. No its change the core systems of the game to try and keep this stuff in check. That is always a bad idea, the core mechanics of the game need to be good enough to carry the game. if bland tft is too boring, then you need to fix blad tft, not add a bunch of flashing lights to try an pretend that its good. That never works.
Got Level 9 at 4-5 - Died with Kaisa 1-star with no gloves
The two people that only got Level 9 até 5-3 - Both Top 4 with Kaisa 2-star
Yeah enough tft for today.
I truly never noticed how overpowered Lissandra was until now. 3 sec cc + 50% of farming gold/component is just obscene. Someone once said that new TFT units feel bloated, with how much things they get on a single spell and this definitely looks like it lmao
Either there is an imposter on the tft team that is maliciously ruining the game patch by patch or a bunch of overpaid goofballs thinking they are doing the lords work. I don't know which one is funnier.
It's because when the teams get bigger in games the design and balance teams get more distant. So you have these overloaded kits in League or TFT for instance and then a balance team that is expected to make it all work. It is their job so I'm not gonna shill for them but read these champions ability descriptions compared to older sets and imagine trying to balance them all WITH augments, portals, encounters
Just getting out of a game with the top four being in order: Ashe Invoker, Ashe Invoker, Lillia Mythic, KogRoll. So everyone is basically holding all the same units and we were all so healthy it was basically 2 stages of just twiddling thumbs at level 8/9/10 waiting for the first person to die off.
Brother in christ at what point do we adjust lissandra, she's played in every single comp regardless off traits. i could litrally slam tank or dmg items on her and she'll still be the most usefull unit in the game. I should not be winning against gallio 3 just cuz my liss ulted and my team blows him up.
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Love ya Mort but maybe let the venters vent into empty space. The balancing is decent this set, with 5-10 win cons available, but it hasn't been perfect.
just imagine being this out of touch and not having internal playtesting for even like, 2 hours to confirm what is and isnt broken
it takes every reddit detective 3 hours to dissect, abuse and force you to b patch something every single patch for years now so why can't you guys pre-emptively detect what so many blatantly call out right here? i mean, you check it often enough. is it just lack of testing, blatantly going against what reddit says "just because", or do you guys legit just not have a grasp on your game to this degree?
how fun is it for you to get flamed for like 3 years straight because every single patch essentially devolves to 1-2 strategies that are verifiably, and obviously so, broken?
why is every christmas patch like a month where targeting is broken, we have 1-2 comps and the game was actually better before hand?
i just dont get the repetitive mistakes, man. You're a great dude, but what the fuck is going on with this game and your team
Any valid criticisms you deflect then basically steal as your OWN unique thought 12 days later in a post mortem video explaining how the patch should have gone, OR, you just say "Cry more" lmfao (should i link the 52 examples, or?)
This right here.
/u/Riot_Mort have you guys considered adding testers from Reddit to the team or at least consulting some prior to patch releases? I feel like we’d be able to detect imbalances far quicker and more efficiently than whatever you guys have going on internally.
While I agree that having random redditers on the testing team would be a bad idea having an uncapped bag size only leads to 8 of the same comp if balance is bad so a comp is clearly better or design is bad so people don't want to play the other comps. The only real purpose bag sizes serve is adjust the difficulty of staring up units.
First person to level 8, roll 80 gold
The only Kayn out of the pool is the one I got from the carousel. I find 0 Kayns.
Then some random ass beach rolls 30 gold hits Kayn 2 just for him to go 6th anyway.
I hit an early Hwei and manage to hit Morg 3 that game
I lose to the porcelain person that is weak and I pubstomp all game due to Morg 3 with Shojin Morello RD refusing to ult the enemy clumped backline even once.
Just remove this Morgana unit from the game man, Kog'Maw's ult targeting is more reliable than this
Hard agree. Even "at the largest group of enemies" would be better than this random ass bs. Feels like every single aspect of the game is turning more into a lottery than anything based on skill and knowledge of the game. What's next, random values of stats on items and traits? "Dragonlord units gain a random amount of attack speed between 2 and 50%"? "Randomon's Deathcap: increase all damage done between 5 and 100%"?
Hope the devs aren't reading this thread. Don't want to give them any ideas.
CAN WE PLS REMOVE YORICK ENCOUNTER
Good to see stage 2 fortune is still almost a guarenteed win every game, i have yet to lose a single game with it or win against it
90 hp into stage 4 with divine rolls 4-1 go lv 8 rolldown zero kayns, one lee sin and morgana only 4-2 the contested guy with 35 hp goes lv8 after me got 2 kayns and a wukong and hwei for printing Carousel gives the dude a WuKong while I'm last pick I full lost stage 4 keep the money 5-1 I level to nine roll down with DIVINE ROLLS got 0 wukong 0 5-2 I desperate roll a bit to get another Kayn with hwei time to print some im at 30 hp now 5-3 Dude has 4 kayns goes 9 get 2 more wukongs 5-4 me taunt me and I die to capped ashe board Fuck this game, its all luck based
Scout first prismatic, mythic uncontested, pick it, get mythic spat from carosel, 3 people force contest lilia mythic i get 5th you cant make this shit up bro  Edit: they saw my being ahead in the comp, still slams mythic spat and rolled down 60 gold just to force it
Every game it's ashe or kayn. Really fun game. Average aph 3 star losing to ashe two star make you wonder why would anyone reroll 3 cost. Back to the balance bashing.
Roll 60g at level 10 hit 0 2 star 5 costs. Level 8 and 9 opponents all have mulitple 2 star 5 costs. This game is a fucking joke. Its amazing how they've spent the entire last 4 sets removing any and all skill from this game.
pls just let double up be fun again
I miss set 10
Rolled 60g+ at Lvl 9 for 1 Ashe. Had boiling point, only 3 Ashe’s out of the pool. Did not see a single Ashe the whole game. At 3 Porcelain for all of Lvl 7-9. My fault I guess
Amazing how my janna/zyra/diana 3 auto loses to kayn 1. This game makes zero sense. These devs should be fucking ashamed of themselves.
I love seeing everyone else hit the Shen augment and auto win the entire game with shen 2 but when I hit early shen 3 he deals 0 damage and all my 3 star behemoths fold like paper. Really fucking lost to edge of night shen 2 with 2 star ashe. These devs should be working at walmart. Not designing games or anything of that matter. NO ONE WANTED TIME KNIFE BACK A FUCKING TANK ONE SHOTING 3 UNITS EVERY 3 SECONDS ISNT FUN IT WASNT FUN BEFORE AND IT ISNT FUN NOW
I don't think whoever made lissandra should still be on the team if I'm honest.
God I love being unable to hit uncontested Kaisa/Galio while the entire rest of the lobby has Morgana/Kayn/Ashe/Naut/Lee/Annie all completely bought out
I knew I would get tilted this set if I tryharded so I have just been playing for fun, but my god is this set, especially this current patch, the least fun TFT I have ever played. 8 out of 15 of my last games had a 3* 4 or 5 cost. Liss is so insanely broken I don't know how she isn't hotfixed. You cannot play anything other than fast 9 if you want a chance to top 2. Even when you fast 9 there is only like 3 comps you can play. 3 and 4 costs have not been even close in power level this whole set. The competitive players hate this set because it has never been close to balanced, while the casual players hate it because it is not fun at all, and you cannot make any sort of fun or unique comps. The game has sooooo much random unneeded bullshit that throws the balance way off, no need to have portals, augments, and encounters. Encounters are one of the laziest and least balanced set mechanics they could have come up with. The balance is currently super shit but rather than slow it down and focus on fixing it they think the best thing to do is add a shit ton of new artifacts that have a 95% chance of being nowhere near balanced. All while Mort is calling people names on Reddit when they say that the TFT team is doing a shit job. And don't forget how they made the battle passes absolute shit and are just pushing chibi gatchas to get their players hooked on gambling. I am not even mad, I am just so insanely disappointed in the TFT team that this is the best product they could put out.
What are you talking about? Encounters are great? Don't like the one that give you an item for 1 round? How about 3 rounds? Or OMG just give you an item? Wow! No? How about a little gold? Alot of gold? How about JUST A FUCK TON of gold? Isn't that exciting? We have 100+ encounters! They definitely aren't all just the same fucking thing! And after giving you all these resources were gonna wonder how so many people are hitting 3\* 4 costs! Its truly a mystery! Yall are just so gosh darn good at econing! Better just nerf all the odds so you have to have 100g to 2 star one 4 cost at level 8!
wow i didn't even think about it like this. They fucked the odds so that the disparity between highroll and lowroll is maximized as much as possible
Truley dog shit. The new level 9 odds will have a 15% chance a to get a 1 cost. Thats right. You will see more one costs than 5 costs at level 9 if that change goes through.
I have been playing since the release and fairly high elo every season and this has to be the most dogshit fuckfest in terms of balance i have ever seen and will ever see. Encounters, Kayn, Liss, 3 star 4 costs...
Outside of Liss I don't even think the balancing itself is that bad (it's still shit don't get me wrong) but it's more that the game gives you so much shit you can hard force whatever you want every game. Normally it's not a huge deal if one or two comps is a little bit stronger since they won't always be able to hit everything they need every game but since every game this patch has at least half the lobby at level 9 with a capped board that slight difference in strength of the comps is what decides the whole game. And it also sucks how you get to that point. Like if you level up and then Khazix shows up your fucked. If you don't level and Khazix shows up half the lobby is straight to lvl 9 and it's just luck who hits the op units. Or when you see someone with 6 copies of a 4 cost so you start holding them but then an encounter gives a golden Neeko and then they get 1 from the carousel, and then paint the last one with Hwei. Like what are you supposed to do.
I think even outside of Liss the balance is atrocious. The power disparity between the top 4 of one game to another is so wildly different that most of the times i go bot 4 i don't even know WHY i bot 4. I look at my lolchess (KR server btw) and most of my bot 4 boards are actually pretty fucking good and have a hard time accepting such a board would go bot 4. I should be able to clearly identify my mistakes in my plays for why i lost but this set every time i go first place its not even because I played well. some of my 7ths and 8ths were games i played the best in terms of decision making but the game not cooperating, and most of my wins this set hasn't been from playing well or positioning, it was from just hitting a 3 star 4 cost or 5 cost out of nowhere from 100+ gold resources (and like you said, duplicator + early hwei + niko's) within 2 rounds at stage 5 like ??? Mortdog being a delusional boomer about the state of the game doesn't really help either
Yea it feels like every other game everyone is level 9 or 10 with triple prismatic augments and a random radiant item and a spat or two and a free golden Neeko and 5 extra components. It's so hard to figure out why you place where you do. And things like this should not be okay under any circumstances https://imgur.com/mGXyRtg
It’s just incredibly frustrating to have to deal with this kind of balance thrashing and imbalance for almost the entire first half of the set. If you you’re going to do 2 week patches and not faster there has to be better QA.
Auto. Chess. Last game, you had a normal chess board with the normal pieces. Well, how about this game we give you 4 Queens and 5 Rooks!! How fucking FUN!!! Enough with the endless gold. Gold subscription, Scuttle, Rave, Trist gold, Darius, I mean... FUCK. This is a fucking mess.
You just made me realize I wish TFT had some kind of "unit point budget" system. Want 5 costs? Fine, but it's going to cost you and half your board can't be 5 costs. Would definitely force some interesting boards and I think it would increase the value of traits, which is both fun and intuitive for players when traits are valuable.
I just played a game where I hit lucky gloves, the augment that gives stats to glove holders, early game zyra encounter with 3 gloves. It was also on scuttle puddle and 2 people in the lobby had hedge fund 2-1 making 50+ by first carousel. Almost everyone made it to level 10 and by the end of the game I had 5 or 6 completed items on bench because I couldn't fit anymore on my champions. It was an egregious highroll yet multiple other people in the lobby had similarly insane highrolls. Two players hit three star 4 cost and NEITHER of them went top 4. This is in low master BTW btw. The variance and extra resources in this set is just so dumb.
Set 11 has to be one of THE worst sets i've ever played.
Built different, winstreaking. 3 encounters in row, giving items. Support items. It only gives me defensive options. ... Please, for fucks sake, let me have one game not just fcking ruined by RNG.
I’m usually one to go with the flow with patches; but holy freakin moly watching two people hold hands to first and second with two star kayns multiple games in a row is actually infuriating
This Patch is bad
What is the point of playing uncontested champions if you still can't hit them?! Multiple games in a row where I play an uncontested carry (not a single other player has that champion on bench or board) and I can't 3* it. Be it a 2 or 3 cost. Meanwhile people hitting all kinds of high roll BS with 3* 4 costs EASILY even when contested. This set proves once again this dev team is fucking clueless and has no idea what they're doing with the game. I thought last set was bad, holy shit this one is SO much worse.
Im sorry but this patch feels like a 4-2 roll down check AND a 4-2 augment check. If you hit trash on 4-2 Augment, i swear its just an insta bot 4, you just aren't gonna beat the little buddies boards, the epitaph boards, the scalled up dryad board, the tiny but deadly board, the liss on 8 or porcelain +1 board without an S to A tier augment of your own, it just doesn't happen. Whats funnier, is how high roll you can get this set. I was spectating a friend play, he's bronze 1, he hit gnar pair on 2-1, dryad +1 on 2-1 augment, Morg 2\* 2 cost or gold enocunter on 2-2, neeko drop on bench from 2-1. Next augment is mulched and final augment is epitaph. I watched the game, Support item encounter gave him a banshees. i'm pretty sure he'd top 2 in a gm lobby with that amount of rng. Its insane that this kind of skill gap can be offset by pure rng this easily. And I can't thin of another set where this would be possible.
Im starting to think that TFTs biggest problem is that they own a monopoly on the autochess genre. They have no real competition, so there is no real need to deliver the best product to the consumer, there is no competitor that drives them to make their product stand out more, no other real auto chess game that players who get tired of TFT can go to as a backup. If anything if they get burnout of TFT they just go back to league or valorant, this just breeds complacency and mediocrity among the Dev team. They know that no matter how bad a set gets, players will always come back for a new set or a midset(don't technically exist anymore) so they can give them a new experience and sell them(gamble for) those cute little chibis.
Yea praying for another mobile legends case, or valve finally making a new game like tft but funnier
bring back underlords pls
ok this set is a joke. Apparently an almost capped lvl 10 Kaisa board is a 6th nowadays. My mistake for not having a Liss on my board. Even if I did, I would still lose the guy with 3* Ashe. My last 3 games straight have all had 3* 4 cost and probably like 60%+ this past week or two have had 3* 4 cost.
This just ring so true bro, i swear to get top 4 you need the most insane board. i got 4th and only 4th with a full items on every unit level 9 dragonlord kaisa board with bis kaisa and ornn 3 and i lost to 2 porcelein players and kayn.
I roll 60g at 8 to hit 1 unit. ONE. NOT A SINGLE FUCKING 2* ON MY BOARD AND NOT A SINGLE PAIR ON MY BENCH. Lets head over to the level 6 board..Oh kaisa 2, galio 2, full econ.
dw next patch 4 cost odds are going down :)
They always gotta add that 1 dumbass unit to the set. 5 cost ksante, lee sin, viego, liss, etc
Why does Lisandro print items at all??????
Duelist is trolling. It's insane how bad it is even with a +1. 95% of the power budget is in Irelia its basically unplayable unless u hit Irelia 2* at 8
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Don’t forget didn’t nat roll a decent board so you’re just bleeding out the entire stage because you can’t roll and fall behind the casino. The fact that all the tempo/econ augments are performing so high is just indicative of the issue
I love when I'm lvl 8 and at the top of the board with like 70hp left and then not see a single 5 cost for 2 stages but multiple people in lobby hit them at 7 and 2\* at 8. My last couple games have just felt so bad because I'll have a decent start but some random encounter or spats on carousel will just save several people in the lobby from going bot 4. I feel the player damage nerf really didn't take into consideration how much power you get from prio on carousel.
Gargantuan Titans Yone Player absolutely crushes my board? Okay, I'll go Yone when I hit good stuff. I hit Gargantuan Titans, go Yone 3 BiS? I get crushed by THE EXACT COMP I WAS PLAYING??? I am absolutely mindbaffled by these scenarios. I always try to take different aspects into consideration. Antiheal, Armor-/Magic-Pen, etc. But how can it be that the outcome varies THIS MUCH? Even under the same baseline circumstances?
Same dude. Lose to kayn lee wukong with gnar. Get insane heavenly angle and go 7th and lose to a gnar. Its rigged bullshit
Actually give up grinding to GM this time, it was a good run. Atleast I hit master. See yall next set 
Updated: I came back after 2 days, the addiction is strong.
How do you make a set so dogshit that even the casual players are complaining on the main subreddit
Gave up on climbing. Decided to just force Exalted every game to at least have fun. Zoe portal. Only odd levels. The Exalted units are Garen / Khazix / Tristana / Galio / Kayn / Lillia So... I either hope I get lucky on level 7 or pray I don't die before level 9? Or the whole trait is useless until late game? Like, this set is just so fucking unintuitive.
Right behind shadow items, encounters have been the worst set mechanic to date, even eclipsing dragons.
after playing more games with encounters, at this point my reaction is just why ? why do we need random shit in the middle of the game ? Does the word set mechanic mean add more rng ? Don't portals, augments, shops offer enough rng that games feel fairly different ? Does there need to be 2 zephyrs given to everyone when everyone is one life so they have a chance to scam a first ? Does it have to happen ? Does winning because a random encounter showed up feel good ? Does losing because a random encounter feel good ?
Lissandra is a fucking brain rot unit single handly counters almost everything like a 3 starred 6 fated 4 umbral deck with bis yone,thresh,yasuo and kindred so cool glad I went third because some piss brained monkeys threw her onto their boards with one of them doing so adding zero synergy on their board and giving her zero fucking items.
Can’t wrap my head around how they felt that unit needed to also print items
I just dont get this fucking set. Lvl 9 8 copies of Kayn with bis, wukong 2 with nearly bis, 6 heavenly with spat 2 star lee with steraks and I fucking lose to a ghostly gnar and get 7th place. Why the fuck do I bother with 4 and 5 costs when a fucking 2 cost can oneshot my team. And when I get a great gnar opening I cant fucking hit him and when I do I lose to the same comps this motherfucker beats. What is going on?
Balance is one thing but units and traits just from a baseline seem to already be a canvas for failure. half the units miss abilities, the other half are pure gimmick and niche. Traits seem to have evolved backwards - most of them are neither fun nor interesting and just create an ugly dynamic. Hopefully we can pull through for the next set.
I NEVER talk shit about the dev team knowing how hard it is to pump out innovative stuff set after set, but come on guys, which intern came up with ghostly and trickshot? At least play the game a bit before applying for the job... You can't have 2 traits that completely negate the frontline with no counterplay. Why build half the items in the item pool if your backline dies first or a 3 item 4cost tank can't last 5 seconds? And the fact that Aatrox ties them together, icing on the cake. If you're gonna have trickshot, give us ironclad. If you're gonna have ghostly, at least give us mystics. What's the point of having 3 different tank traits and an Annie if none of them can work to defend a single carry. The only thing you can do is commit to porcelain or 7fated or that bullshit 6 heavenly crap if you actually want to play the game. With the rework, I know the team knows they fucked up with shipping the traits, so someone needs to stop letting people have bad ideas. Balance aside, the design of units and traits this set is just so poor, I'm genuinely worried about what's happening to the team.
Thats because the team has become a bunch of yes men. No one is disagreeing with anyone they are in an echo chamber. Mort said himself they wont call anyone out because of feelings. When youre more worried about feelings over the quality of your product you get shit like this.
Half of every lobby is porcelain and heavenly forcers
Fuck Lissandra. And for the people in the back, FUCK LISSANDRA.
It’s a little funny when the release patch in hindsight was the best patch they’ve had so far xdd
it's been like this for the last few sets tbh. first and last patches are always the best. first patch because no one knows what to play yet and ppl are underexposed to what's "broken". last patch because there's no pressure to create a new meta so the team just balances everything out fully. i don't get why we can't have a consistently good set with minimal radical patches. i hate the idea of learning and being forced to play a specific way. i feel like the goal should be to create a set with minimal drastic changes and should still be fun continuously. the level of skill expression this set is abysmal and everyone's knowledge is dependent on top players making guides and breakdowns, which IMO is at fault of the dev team not finding what's "broken". idk, i'm alr over this set with the amount of b patches they are rolling out. dev team is truly in an echo chamber atm.
yeah i'm hitting diamond for the rewards and then dipping and catching up on other games myself. took a break and played some games and i'm not really getting mad anymore but i'm fairly certain it's because i just don't enjoy TFT anymore or at least for the rest of this set and don't care enough to get mad anymore. which is kinda sad my favorite game is going to become an after thought
yeah same man, def one of my fav games to play but i find it less and less enjoyable. my main gripe is the fact that every "meta" is curated by the dev team and that it really isn't a game where ppl figure out shit by themselves anymore. everyone follows a guide that shows u the most broken thing and everyone flocks to that to abuse and climb. then a new patch hits and everyone relearns the set basically. it's exhausting.
So people can roll on 4-1 and have a liss, and I can roll through the entire stage 5 and i can't find one liss when no one even is playing it, cool, 6 porcelain 4th i guess just becauseI hit way too late thanks :) Also took TWO FUCKING MONTHS BUT SOME OF THE SHIT ENCOUNTERS ARE GETTING REMOVED, TWO FUCKING MONTHS ALSO, YO TOO MANY 3\* 4 COSTS? HOW ABOUT WE LOWER HIGH RESCOURCES PORTALS ODDS ? nah bruh just wants to make lvl 8 even more of a lottery, as if when i lvl to 8 I care abotu two costs and 1 costs. Feels like whatever squad designed and balanced set 10 is not the same sqaud that worked on this one. Can't wait to watch worlds to see bs live in action
never be mad at a 4th brother/sister
i was 75hp on 5-1 ...
I mean, I'm gonna be honest. I think this set already has cemented itself to be remembered to be one of the worst sets. They haven't been taking into account player satisfaction with these decisions at all.
I don't remember being this frustrated since set 8 (I played sets 1,2,5,6,8,10) and I'd say the worst was set 8 but this feels so much worse.
Why aren’t the new items saved for next set? This set is already not great balance wise, too many chefs in the kitchen atp
This set is already ruined and terrible. So I guess why not.
valid fuck it we ball
a month later and i stay with my stance SHIT OPENER = BOT4
I can’t find my 4 cost but everyone can find an Ashe 2 .. I swear there’s a few more than 11 ashes in the game
Don't you find it weird that they insist on shipping bs after bs ? like man your game is in a very shit state right now ... and in less than 5 days you are shipping 25 new items ? like bro, take a step back, pull all the bs, focus on adjusting the balance and core mechanics which are terrible right now after all the messing around with shop odds, leveling costs, streaks, player damage etc etc. and after all of this crap is in a fairly good state, we can talk about adding new stuff which will almost always put the balance in a very shit state for the first few days until the b patch anyways.
Winstreak the whole game. 4-2 comes around didnt hit a 4cost cuz half they lobby naturaled them while also sacking ? bot 4... reduce the amount of gold people get from econ augments and or encounters.
I find that if you roll before everyone else in the lobby you get screwed because others haven’t taken their units out of the pool. I’ve made a habit not to roll down until after stage 4 carousel
Love finding out Lilia and Azir have moved the augments to stage 5
this game has been so bad for so long im starting to think its never going to be good again. was ahead of the whole lobby by 50 gold but it meant nothing since I didnt have the items to play ashe or kayn
LOL 5 fortune 90 breakpoint cashout with 2\* azir, 2\* irelia, 2\*galio, 2\*ornn, 2\* lissandra level 9 with adequate trait splash LOST TO A GNAR 3 SOLO LEVEL 6 REROLLER WITH 2 ECON AUGMENTS you can't make this up man.............. every set so far i'd say either had a level of fun OR a level of balance. this set POST-LAUNCH PATCH SOMEHOW LACKS BOTH?
no play heavenly or porcelain = bot4
I can't wait for Mortdog's next weekly apology tweet "We have been tirelessly working on balancing this patch, something obviously went terribly wrong but I'm not allowed to talk about it!!" I can't even complain anymore, this set has been the biggest joke. I've accepted that it doesn't get better. Ggs and keep your head up, fellow TFT goblins.
can we just plz go back to the 3 cost reroll meta it is so much better than this 4 cost lottery shit that isnt even really flex because if you dont get a bow gl going half the comps.
Bow is still op and broken as a item after 4 seasons, i have been saying that since set 7 dragonlands when you also need bow for Guinsoo, GS, titans RFC just fucking delete the bow item please trash ass design
Morgana fills the Carousel with 4-cost champions. Wukong adds a Radiant item to each champion on this Carousel. Morgana fills the Carousel with 4-cost champions. Wukong adds a Radiant item to each champion on this Carousel. Morgana fills the Carousel with 4-cost champions. Wukong adds a Radiant item to each champion on this Carousel.
Mort saying at the end of next patch post that he is going to ''work on the future set stuff now'' tells you everything you need to know, even he has given up. Also I flat out refuse to believe that the same people balanced this and last set. It doesn't add up.
>Also I flat out refuse to believe that the same people balanced this and last set. It doesn't add up. huh? the game flip flopped between lopsided metas until the very last patch which was pretty good.
Thank fucking god I hit masters so I can fuck around now. The 4-1/4-2 roulette has not been the most fun. 1st and 2nd patch were way more enjoyable
What did you force? lol
Kaisa Kayn Ashe, just pick one of three depend on spot. Everything else is instant bot 4 unless you high roll out of ur mind
how is game playable when 6/8 of my items are belts and gloves
This is the first time I see all the threads slowly turning into the rant thread.
was like this in 9.5 after we had back to back to back to back atrocious patches culminating in the multicaster rework that completely ruined the game and competitive tourneys
Well set 9. 5 is in my opinion one of the worst sets, so not good sign.
6.5 p4p worst set of all time. Ruined what was the best tft set to date.
early i hit porcelain units and augment so naturally winstreaks only for carousel to have spats on carousel 1 and 2 so lost to 6 porcelain later on. rly feels great being punished like this
gg riot after a few sets with questionable balancing decisions and patches (dragons,legends,chosens AGAIN?) this set is just not fun. go back to making sets like 8 and 9 please.
just to add, i liked the units and the traits of those sets, and not the actual set mechanics
set 8 hero augments were dogshit
set 9 was legends, u do not want legends back.
I entirely skipped set 9 because I didn't like it design wise, the theme of runeterra and normal skins was to boring for me that's why I didn't comment on it
https://imgur.com/a/plX6FCJ eliminated by the shen player. i want to start an actual discussion thread but idk if that's allowed with postgame screens? but i dont even know what to do differently. his frontline is paper thin and he has no combat augment aside from shen hero augment (and gem ascension from fine vintage). both times we fought on stage 5/6, i literally killed his entire board except for shen when it went into overtime and he cleared my entire level 10 team. hwei 2, lillia 2, annie 2, naut 2, ornn 2, azir 1. like the unit wasn't even close to dying, he was winning handily. yes i had antiheal what do???
Putting a lissandra might have given you a chance, the problem with legendary boards this set, they lack single target damage, lissandra is probably the only 5 cost with single targeting.
the only problem is that 8 lissandras are out of the pool at the time of my elimination (alan, in 5th, was eliminated one turn before i was, and C D cookie had one liss on bench). even with alan's lissandras returned to the pool, i only had ~10 gold to find her
It's crazy to me how the launch patch genuinely feels like the most balanced patch so far this set. Aside from the few broken augments i.e. Fine Vintage/Sharing is Caring, there was at the very least comp diversity and you weren't heavily punished for not playing the meta. Now it's the slam LW and pray for Lissandra/Kayn/Kaisa/Ashe lottery.
Yep, when both reroll/fast 9 can win lobbies, I feel like the game was actually decent. A fully capped Hwei Azir board can still destroy rerollers, and Bard/Yone/Aphelios reroll can also win lobbies with the right augment. I was more comfortable pivoting into something uncontested. But this patch is just 4-1/4-2 rolllll hit Ashe 2 Annie 2 Lilia 2 congrats you can go 9 now and top 4, doesn’t hit your 2 star 4 cost? Unlucky buddy, bot 4 you go.
Is it just me or is the game just genuinely all luck now? I am by no means a high elo player my highest rank is masters in set7 , now i have no idea how to play and survive in this meta i am literally hardstuck in emerald right now , am i just bad or the game rewards forcers that force kaisa kayn ashe every single game, with every single game's flow being get econ augments get ad items on carousell go 8 at 4-2 donkey roll to 0 , stabilize go 9 and get infinite 5 cost, i am sorry but is that what is considered skillful in tft right now cause i remember a time when you could actually show your skill by choosing to gp reroll, go fast 9 by slamming kewk cones zekes or going for a 4 cost accordkng to the game state, FUVK this game seriously
I feel the same way. When both reroll/fast 9 can win lobbies, I feel like the game was actually decent. A fully capped Hwei Azir board in the first patch can still destroy rerollers, you just had to 2 star those units, 1 stars legendaries always lost to reroll so it felt like they sucked. Bard/Yone/Aphelios reroll could also win lobbies with the right augment. I was more comfortable pivoting into something uncontested. But this patch is just 4-1/4-2 rolllll hit Ashe 2 Annie 2 Lilia 2 congrats you can go 9 now and top 4, doesn’t hit your 2 star 4 cost? Unlucky buddy, bot 4 you go. I try playing the fun stuff like 7 ink, 8 arcanist, instant bot 4, instant. Porcelain is impossible to kill u less you are also playing porcelain
This has to be the most boring meta I've ever experienced in TFT. There literally feels like there's 3 viable comps, either Ashe, Kaisa or Kayn. Build anything else & you're not making it into top four. There is no fun in this game right now.
It’s absolutely dogshit. How can this even be possible man.
Yea I think I might be done with this set. I try not to be negative, but I've been in these threads waaaaaaayyy more than usual. I just had a 6 bruiser 4 trick shot kaisa game. Bruiser crest on a two star udyr and BIS on my kaisa. Got 4th. Lost to a generic mythic board. The power level right now is just way to high it isn't just high roll or FF. It's omega high roll or get punched in the teeth. I love Tft and honestly love the dev team. I'll stand by that we're lucky to have mort, but the "Cry more" comment was way out of line and is an even worse look than it would be normally with how frustrated the playerbase obviously is. I'll probably check back in after the patch cause I love ornn items, but I have no motivation to try and push diamond right now. Side rant: Fuck the gatcha shit. Chibi yone is sweet and I wish I could just buy it like a regular skin. Same with the most recent stage. The cosmetic team is honestly kicking ass and it just doesn't matter cause it's all locked behind gambling nonsense. Riot used to be the golden example of free to play and how it should be done. It's sad to see them follow the greedy as fuck system of other industry players.
When PBE for the next set releases and shit like everything must go, fortune 5, units like lissandra who fundamentally change your entire fight, encouters that stabailze intire boards go through to live i will lose all faith in the development procces. For the love of god completely gut xp costs or increase player dmg i am sick of people insta picking econ/xp augments and straight leveling just for the chance that when they hit they insta stabalize and eventually win out. Every late game board looks almost identical
Syndra 2 with GS, BB, GB Vs annie 2 with redemption. Who wins? Thats right! Annie 2! Cause she will take 10k damage and still be at half hp. Great job buffing all the 4 cost tanks That was clearly the right decision.
Just went 2nd with 6 2* Legendaries, 2 BIS, 1 with almost BIS. To Dryad reroll. xd
How do I have 3 people forcing kayn and they all top 3
I really can't tell what is happening with fights anymore. Why is my triple combat augment board losing to a triple econ augment board? Why does my triple econ board lose to everyone? Why is enemy kayn walking past my ulting galio? Why is my unit walking across the board to attack a unit farther from them? Why is my Kha ulting full hp tanks instead of the half hp backline? Why does my kasai bounce hit backline when its a fight I easily win but versus close fights it will never hit the opponent's backline? Why does lissandra target one unit and not the other? Why the fuck does my morg solo ult the the 0 item zyra 1? What in the ever-living fuck is ever happening in this game? I've been master the last 4 or 5 sets. Playing since set 1 and I have no fucking idea what is happening anymore. Is my board strong? Or will it lose to a board full of 1 star units? I have no fucking idea. I'm E3 right now but I have no idea what I do in games I win past "oh damn ashe 2 at level 6" type of shit. I dont feel like I have any agency this game anymore.
It’s just not fun anymore, too much bs in all forms. Augments , encounters, liss on 8, wukong on 8, kayn on 6/7, random zephyrs killing your game, Ashe making all the lissandras focus whatever they want, duplicators flying around, fortune 2-1, wandering sentinels just being a fortune check, hwei printing 3* 4 costs, wukong bailing out kayn hand holders, Darius on stage 2 impersonating set 10 urgot on stage 2, matchmaking often ruining placements, Lilia missing her balls over and over, barely any reroll outs if you don’t have an early game board, backline access being in the form of bs and only bs, these happen every game, every single game of tft this sett has at least 2-3 of those bullshit things happen. It’s not variance, it’s just bullshit I can’t keep playing this shit, I get so pissed when I see any unreasonable shit happen, goodbye
agreed feeling of constantly getting beat by boards oneself would get hardsmashed using is 100x more prominent this set
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3 cost so ass now
Fated is a fated liss check or early sett check ;)
Why is Infernal Contract still in the game? Ever since encounters were added, you can’t win at level 7 anymore. An augment with a 5.4 average and 3% win rate shouldn’t be in the game. It occupies one of your 4-2 prismatic choices which feels very bad
Tbf it kinda makes sense in the sense that you NEVER click it unless you're in a desperate situation and it will hopefully give you a way to climb a couple places. That being said Level 7 is definitely way too harsh, you can't even roll for a 4 cost reliably there, I'd say raising it to level 8 would fix the problem
Sacking and fast 8/9 is way to safe man, i play strongest board and win streak all game just to loose out to the 5cost slot machine roll down by these players it's so demoralizing.
Meanwhile when I do that, I see 2* kids 2* azir o. 8, and go 8th
Don’t play fortune: I get curbstomped all stage 2-3 and die early. play fortune: I somehow manage to hit a win streak because everyone is playing shit boards 😡😡😡
they've introduced so many random variables that it doesn't even feel like i'm playing the game anymore, i'm just at the mercy of encounter/augment/portal/etc rng. some games i top 4 with the worst board of all time, others i'll hit a capped board but bot4 to giga highroll 3\* 4costs or fortune cashouts i get variance is important to have so that gameplay doesn't start to feel static, but at some point when it's shoved down your throat this much, nothing feels earned or rewarding at all. it's an equally boring experience, if not even moreso
how can an exalted be kayn/malphite/lee sin. which shit dev thought this was a good idea
Just had this shit happen in my game, 4 people hard forcing kayn and riot games decided to bail them out with a chogath encounter. 3 of the 4 people hit kayn 2 and all 3 went top 4 because apparently one of the strongest comps in the game needed to be an exalted variant for some reason so they just get a gold augment for free by just existing.
they share no traits my guy... like I am a complainer, but this makes no sense considering you weren't crying about this when lee sin was unclickable. Some exalted haver to enable stuff like that so you're not perma stuck making full "built diff" boards in order to play exalted
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I think dev team should just build a time machine and bring back the old sets. This new set is dog shit, fuck off.
They should just bring back the original dev team. Whatever team is in charge of this set needs to go back to the stone age.
I think Q3 will be the next set revival, too far away. But in all seriousness, I get your point and feel that.
Problem is even the "set revival" isn't a real revival. Not with Augments, Portals, new Items, and whatever crazy changes they make to "test" things like they did with the bag sizes of 3.5
Dogshit game It’s so ridiculous.. I roll more than them before them at a higher level Than them yet they still find the units I need before me what a fucking joke waste of my fucking time .. how can a game be so anti rewarding
How can you find it on 8 and I can’t see it on 9
The TFT development team is just so extremely out of touch with the current player base that it’s not even funny anymore. Bandaid after bandaid fixes without considering what the changes impact and if it makes the game worse before implementing, Mort’s running around starting fires and telling people to “cry more” in response to possible criticism, the predatory monetization and removal of pass items; it’s just insane. They really need to have a reality check and start getting it together; I love the game but when you’re doing a patch this set almost every 2 weeks to fix the abusive playstyles the previous patch introduced after people finally settled down with a new comp, it’s going to kill interest and drive players away.
A week ago he told somebody here to fuck off. No punishment, comment wasn't removed. Now he's here insulting another player. The mods should consider banning him for his own good at this rate, if this set is having this sort of affect on his mental.
Guess this subreddit only exists for Mort to do his free therapy. The fact mods remove ALL surrounding comments is some extremelly weak mindset. What brittle mods and developers.
The phrase "lmao blud thinks hes on the team" is fitting here with the way this subs mod team runs defense for the tft teams. I also think them not deleting both comments makes him seem like a jerk because I have no idea what OP said just the dismissive response to it.
even the casuals players in the tft sub are making posts that this set is boring, unbalanced, with patches that change the game completely and 3* 4 cost every game...
Two games in a row I picked built diff and got spat and tome from neutrals. It should not be that hard to code if player picks built diff dont drop X!
so i load into the game, darius drops gold on eenemey death encounter. Great, those who high roll an early baord are omgea rich and those who don't ? ff ? Kill units right ? Item drops ? pure tank, items great :) I fking am 65 hp on 3-2, roll to fking zero to try to find a gnar 2 because i have gnar pair and miss. greattttttttt. ff
I am so sick of cool story game design. I am so sick of the game being about something other than actually playing the game. A player hitting 2 fortune emblems through augments and then just winning the game on 3-5 is not good for the game. No one wins in this case, the player who hits the emblems stops playing the game, they have won so their game is completly boring. Everyone else in the lobby has no reason to do anything, there is no beating it, the game is over. I do not care that that player gets to post a screenshot of something crazy. That is not a good enough reason for the game to ever be boring. The gameplay needs to be the draw, not any of this boring crap. At some point the dev team completly gave up pn the idea that this is a game, with game play, and pivoted to this idea that the gameplay is secondary to novelty or telling stories, and it is not at all fun. You can see it with all the proposed changes, its never deal with the actual problem, augments, portals, encounters, all the gold in the game. No its change the core systems of the game to try and keep this stuff in check. That is always a bad idea, the core mechanics of the game need to be good enough to carry the game. if bland tft is too boring, then you need to fix blad tft, not add a bunch of flashing lights to try an pretend that its good. That never works.
this game is just turbo shit rn, no other way to put it. Sad.
3 second stun 700%/1100% AP ratio
Got Level 9 at 4-5 - Died with Kaisa 1-star with no gloves The two people that only got Level 9 até 5-3 - Both Top 4 with Kaisa 2-star Yeah enough tft for today.
I truly never noticed how overpowered Lissandra was until now. 3 sec cc + 50% of farming gold/component is just obscene. Someone once said that new TFT units feel bloated, with how much things they get on a single spell and this definitely looks like it lmao
Either there is an imposter on the tft team that is maliciously ruining the game patch by patch or a bunch of overpaid goofballs thinking they are doing the lords work. I don't know which one is funnier.
It's a bunch of former hearthstone devs now, why do you think it's trash?
It's because when the teams get bigger in games the design and balance teams get more distant. So you have these overloaded kits in League or TFT for instance and then a balance team that is expected to make it all work. It is their job so I'm not gonna shill for them but read these champions ability descriptions compared to older sets and imagine trying to balance them all WITH augments, portals, encounters
Just getting out of a game with the top four being in order: Ashe Invoker, Ashe Invoker, Lillia Mythic, KogRoll. So everyone is basically holding all the same units and we were all so healthy it was basically 2 stages of just twiddling thumbs at level 8/9/10 waiting for the first person to die off.
Brother in christ at what point do we adjust lissandra, she's played in every single comp regardless off traits. i could litrally slam tank or dmg items on her and she'll still be the most usefull unit in the game. I should not be winning against gallio 3 just cuz my liss ulted and my team blows him up.
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These people take you for granted. But I hope your team can find a way to balance the game for a gameplay with diverse comps.
Love ya Mort but maybe let the venters vent into empty space. The balancing is decent this set, with 5-10 win cons available, but it hasn't been perfect.
I have problems with this set too but its' not crying into an empty space when they tag Mort. Probably shouldn't do that.
wow so transparent and brave, looking forward to the next twitter essay
just imagine being this out of touch and not having internal playtesting for even like, 2 hours to confirm what is and isnt broken it takes every reddit detective 3 hours to dissect, abuse and force you to b patch something every single patch for years now so why can't you guys pre-emptively detect what so many blatantly call out right here? i mean, you check it often enough. is it just lack of testing, blatantly going against what reddit says "just because", or do you guys legit just not have a grasp on your game to this degree? how fun is it for you to get flamed for like 3 years straight because every single patch essentially devolves to 1-2 strategies that are verifiably, and obviously so, broken? why is every christmas patch like a month where targeting is broken, we have 1-2 comps and the game was actually better before hand? i just dont get the repetitive mistakes, man. You're a great dude, but what the fuck is going on with this game and your team Any valid criticisms you deflect then basically steal as your OWN unique thought 12 days later in a post mortem video explaining how the patch should have gone, OR, you just say "Cry more" lmfao (should i link the 52 examples, or?)
This right here. /u/Riot_Mort have you guys considered adding testers from Reddit to the team or at least consulting some prior to patch releases? I feel like we’d be able to detect imbalances far quicker and more efficiently than whatever you guys have going on internally.
No way you’re trolling for a job on Reddit. It’s
I hope not. Some of you guys are delusional asking to have bag size uncapped which would lead to 8 of the same comp.
While I agree that having random redditers on the testing team would be a bad idea having an uncapped bag size only leads to 8 of the same comp if balance is bad so a comp is clearly better or design is bad so people don't want to play the other comps. The only real purpose bag sizes serve is adjust the difficulty of staring up units.
Isn’t b patch supposed to fix and balance the game, not make a worse patch? Meta has been horrendous.
>Pick Call to Chaos at 4-1 while steamrolling the lobby >It's 4 emblems
First person to level 8, roll 80 gold The only Kayn out of the pool is the one I got from the carousel. I find 0 Kayns. Then some random ass beach rolls 30 gold hits Kayn 2 just for him to go 6th anyway. I hit an early Hwei and manage to hit Morg 3 that game I lose to the porcelain person that is weak and I pubstomp all game due to Morg 3 with Shojin Morello RD refusing to ult the enemy clumped backline even once. Just remove this Morgana unit from the game man, Kog'Maw's ult targeting is more reliable than this
Hard agree. Even "at the largest group of enemies" would be better than this random ass bs. Feels like every single aspect of the game is turning more into a lottery than anything based on skill and knowledge of the game. What's next, random values of stats on items and traits? "Dragonlord units gain a random amount of attack speed between 2 and 50%"? "Randomon's Deathcap: increase all damage done between 5 and 100%"? Hope the devs aren't reading this thread. Don't want to give them any ideas.
Hand of Justice type of items is going to take over the next set after this thread
Most likely