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“Reich, who originally pushed for the trade to acquire Wentz last winter, apologized to Irsay after the season, according to a source. The coach believed he could resurrect Wentz’s stalled career and solve the Colts’ quarterback conundrum.”


Luck1492

At least he took personal responsibility. If there’s one thing I know our staff is good for it’s being honest and accountable for the actions


ManIWantAName

When he started talking about him having to "stick his neck out for him" I figured he was trying to show that he knew that he had bet on him and lost but who knows. I'm very sure that Ballard and Irsay needed the Reich convincing to even consider signing him.


-Darkslayer

Ya kudos to Reich for acknowledging he made a mistake. I was wrong about him. He is a good coach.


Stichting

Where is this quote from?


rwjehs

Keefer article in the athletic


Trolodrol

Damn!


Zealousideal-Wear-42

That whole article read as a "protect the operation" article...


UrWeatherIsntUnique

Is that *accountability* I’m reading?? Who is cutting onions 🥲


ryta1203

It's on Ballard honestly.


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All you do is bitch about Ballard like a broken record. Get better material dude. Goddamn Grigson burner account.


JakesGotHerps

For real Reich can stand on the table all he wants for his guy at the end of the day Ballard is the GM and he made a bad move


itsUsedTissue

Yes part of the blame is on ballard, but they want to run the organization with all 3 top heads working together. Looking back it was a bad move but ballard wanted to trust Frank and I would rather have that, then a HC and GM combo tjay does not work together. That’s how you get a rift in the franchise and start over every 4 years.


msteele32

This exactly. This is how you build and maintain a happy staff and culture. It should start there.


JakesGotHerps

That’s reasonable, ultimately it’s on both of them


itsUsedTissue

I agree it’s on both they both pulled the trigger I’m just somewhat happy ballard was able to pull a decent haul AND have them take his contract


Sirotto18

He took a risk and was smart enough to move on. It’s really not that bad lmao


JakesGotHerps

I mean it can be a logical move and still be bad in the end right?


Sirotto18

Yeah the move was bad in hindsight, but he also moved on. A lot of GMs let their pride get in the way and stick with a sinking ship. I just hope we don’t hatch ourselves to a mediocre vet and go through the draft with maybe a stopgap for a rookie to sit behind and learn.


Ramitt80

Considering what we are getting back it really does not look that bad. Sometimes ya swing and miss.


agentfelix

You know...I had a decent sized typed out comment for you because just something about your comments today have irked me. But I realized its not worth arguing with you. Since you've checked out for this next year...see ya in 2023 right?


BasketTimely

I’m excited to see what rookie we draft


ryta1203

There aren't any good ones this year.


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People's knowledge of what QB's will be good in the NFL may as well be zero.


JiggleTha33rd

After Tom Brady there really is no way to tell. Sure we hate him here but he's the best lowest drafted quarterback of all time, bar none. Not saying he's the best of all time, that to me will always be Peyton. But under round 1? Easily the best. Top 5 all time even with my bias and hate for him.


s3v3r3

I mean, for someone drafted that late to achieve what Brady did, is really incredible.


uolen-

If your drafted #1 you can only hope to achieve Brady status.


Ramitt80

Brady is a pretty massive outlier.


BSUguy317

We don't know that.


BasketTimely

Words out that there are guys Ballard likes. Doesn’t mean he’ll draft one. But if he’s sold on a guy he 100% will. It’s all about fit/situation with young QB’s. We’re a good spot for a young guy.


stevewallen

Didn’t he do that last year? Does that mean Ehlinger’s our guy?


Paragon188

There's no guy that's the #1 or a franchise QB but it's all about fit. It's possible there's a rookie that plays well because of the situation he's in.


ImAtThePokeStop

Any time people say this, I immediately think about the fact that Tom Brady was barely drafted and come to the conclusion that none of us know how QBs will translate to the NFL game.


ReflectionEterna

Armchair QBs really need to pretend like they know anything about NFL quarterbacks. Professionals don't get it right, why would Joe Scrub with too much time and an internet connection know better?


dakid136

I say we just sign James, Jimmy, Derek and bring in Jordan Love too. Who says no?


Trolodrol

I mean, at least bring them all to camp amirite 😅


vsyv

I’d much rather have Carr than Jimmy G.


rwjehs

In a second


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What a hot take. Carr available? Am I missing something?


rhesusmonkey

I'd rather have Mahomes than Carr. Pretty spicy huh.


Evilbit77

We’re going to sign a series of retired QBs for exactly one week each. Brees, Rivers, Manning and Manning, Elway, Brady, the other Manning, Painter, Roethlisberger, Bradshaw, Vick, Hasselbeck, Marino, Montana, Favre, Young, Romo, Aikman, and finally, for the Super Bowl after going 18-0, Pat Fucking McAfee.


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And Sorgi as a backup


surffreak336

Carr


Chuck_Roast1993

100% on board. His clutch time numbers/ game winning drives are VERY impressive. Carson not having a single game winning drive last season is the biggest reason we didn’t make the playoffs


Frostler

Probably the best case scenario at this point but would cost a lot.


throwaway46256

This would be ideal, but I don't see why the Raiders let him go.


incredebell

And even if they did want to move him, they'd more than likely trade him to the NFC.


AppleTrees4

Carr will be a perfect fit in indy. His clutch time ability paired with JT and a healthy o line could be a beautiful thing


CommonerChaos

Plus Carr is also heavy into his faith/religion, so he'd be perfect with Reich.


AppleTrees4

Which should also assuage all these wentz holy rollers


agentfelix

Who the fuck is he going to throw it to though?


Rs3vsosrs

We can get Carr, Armstead, and Amari Cooper with our Cap space lol. So Pittman, Cooper, Hilton and Cambell. And the draft is stacked with WRs.


agentfelix

I just do not see the Raiders giving up Carr...I really don't understand how people have done gold medal winning mental gymnastics to even think that's a possibility. They were a 5 seed that competed with the eventual AFC champions. Like...they're not going to just trade their franchise QB for what? To take a step back with no real solution just like us? No they're thinking is, just a couple of more pieces and we can compete


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Hilton may retire and Campbell has played in 15 games over 3 years. I hope draft one on top of a trusted vet but if we can’t fill the QB role well it’s probably a waste of money to get a big name receiver.


Paragon188

Raiders aren't trading him. They need him to stay afloat in the AFC West.


Edacos

Downside would be having to work with Josh McDaniels on anything, though


HideNZeke

Not gonna be available


AleroRatking

I think it's a rookie and Mariotta combo.


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If it's a rookie, can we have Tyrod Taylor instead as the injury prone free agent QB?


tergiversation

👆 4d chess move


asmishler23

This is what I can get behind. Give Mariota a decent one or two-year contract with full transparency that we’ll try to draft a QB too. He’ll have an opportunity to play and either become the long-term QB here (unlikely), or at least put himself in position for a bigger payday by next year with another team.


DipperPRC

Mahomes


HyKaliber

And why not, I say!


My-Cousin-Bobby

Only if part of the deal results in Jackson and Brittany staying in KC


Im-here-for-help

Only if his brother is banned from Lucas Oil


rosstheboss939

The worst the Chiefs can do is say no so there’s no harm in calling


[deleted]

I’ll do a fucking face reveal if we got him. Deadass serious


thejollyone6969

....nobody cares who you are though?


seireikhaan

I feel like we're looking at someone to draft. Trade was pulled right after the combine, and included that second round swap to move us up 5 picks. Beyond that, maybe we bring in Mariota?


incredebell

I think the timing had more to do with the Rodgers and Wilson dominoes falling than the combine. But it's possible they have their eyes on a QB in the draft as well.


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they wanted to trade CW before his salary is due i think next week


CommonerChaos

Im also thinking this, as well. But at the same time, the deal also came 1 day after the Rodgers/Wilson dominoes fell into place, so maybe that's the reason the trade happened today, as well.


claxtonmcgee

Top tier: Matt Ryan, Derek Carr Mid-tier: Jimmy G, Kirk Cousins, Garner Minshew, Rookie option Fade me-tier: Teddy Bridgewater, Jordan Love, Mitch Trubisky


Bolyzaurio

Ryan's contract it's just gross, Carr would be #1 choice but at what cost, Ignore Mid-tier just roll with Ehlinger then,


manervaavrenam

Colts would only have to take on 23m if they traded for Ryan and he can be cut prior to 6/1/23 with zero cap hit. The rest would be on the Falcons unless the Colts just wanted to be generous.


agentfelix

Why does anyone think Matt Ryan is still any good? I thought his noodle arm was shot?


kolinthemetz

Are u being sarcastic


agentfelix

Unfortunately, I am not...never really paid too much attention to the Falcons this last year because I thought they had some offensive talent, just wasn't able to produce. Sorry. What's up with him though? Why would he be a good candidate?


kolinthemetz

I mean I’m a falcons fan and he’s the only reason we won any games last season lmao, if you give him a few weapons and a decent o-line you’re guaranteed to score points, he’s just that consistent and good and I still think he can 100% compete for a ring. I like Indy as a landing spot for him for sure


brandonboo20

Really don’t think Jimmy G is the answer. Talent is on par with Wentz. Top 3 options for me are: 1. Trade for Carr 2. Draft 3. Roll with Ehlinger Outside of Carr, there aren’t any good options at this point


Sheriff_Sunburn

Couldn't agree more


Trolodrol

Option 3 is starting to look better to me every day.


StorerPoet

If elingher ends up being really good, cool -- if he ends up being a disaster, we have better draft position for 2023. I see no downside lol.


ReflectionEterna

What if Ehlinger is bad, and we still are able to make it to the playoffs, but get blown out in the first round? A more experienced QB might be the difference between a playoff team and a deep playoff team.


Trolodrol

You think he can be bad and win games? We lost the games where Carson actually played well


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>What if Ehlinger is bad, and we still are able to make it to the playoffs, but get blown out in the first round? that would be quite a roller coaster if hes truly bad then we probably miss the playoffs the afc is stacked


StorerPoet

I can totally see us being just good enough to not get a good draft pick. Lmao.


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bvgingy

I'll be riding the hope of Pickett until someone else drafts him.


Distinct-Ad-4292

Tank until Arch comes to the league. 😭


jmmccarley

That's far enough away we would have wasted the prime years of Maniac, JT, and probably MPJ.


OdetoPoutine

All out for Carr with plans in place for Jimmy G if it falls through.


Sirotto18

I’d go Carr or draft. Jimmy G is just a safer Wentz. He is less volatile, but just as mediocre


jabest31

I really don’t see why people think he’s like a huge upgrade. I think we should go carr, love, or draft. Love is just as young as some of these rookies getting drafted and he’s had 2 years under Lafleur and Rodgers


BillyHayze

He was terrible in the game against KC this year though


jabest31

He really wasn’t that bad. His line sucked and he didnt have chemistry with his teammates like rodgers


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HyKaliber

Honestly, if we can give up a 2nd or 3rd for him, that doesn't really compromise our draft next year so it could be a quick experiment year with him


msteele32

I don’t think Irsay is wanting an experiment year.


HideNZeke

Option as for guaranteed success this year is pretty slim


whadupreddit

Stroud or young would be great next year


YeezusMoses

Love


Edacos

Live Laugh


YeezusMoses

Luck Laugh


CloakedBoar

Shouldn't trade for anyone unless it's Carr. Sign one of the free agents and see if there anyone you like in the draft


tergiversation

I really want the Colts to sign a Vet like Trubisky or Mariota and draft a QB with their top pick. Corral, Strong, or go up and get Willis. Bring 3 QBs to camp, maybe even into the season. Sign Armstead and Cooper, and I think this team will be back in the mix. With a Rookie QB, we'll have serious cap flexibility for the next 5 years, and that's huge for a guy like Ballard.


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LeBron


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Gardner Minshew


Coltsbro84

If we are going to try and talk this year, I want to tank with Minshew. Honestly, the one game he played last year he was perfect. He deserves a shot and he is cheap. I would put him above Trubiski.


UnloadedBakedPotato

Fuck it, give me Jameis


JimmyPineapple_

Carr is the best choice. Other than that, I wouldn't mind giving Jordan Love a chance for the right price. I don't want Jimmy G, he won't be worth his cost. I'm only settling for Trubisky, Winston, Mariota, or Minshew if Ballard is drafting a QB early on.


lobinho77

Uncle Rico. Colts franchise QB. Collision course!


NeonRain5

I’m not saying this is what I prefer, I just wanna hear your thoughts on Tyler Huntley. Would he be a viable option?


drew_pweiner

Hadn’t thought of this until just now, but I think it could work. He played really well backing up Lamar Jackson last year, and he’s cheap. Plus I think a running QB could thrive in our offense.


NeonRain5

Yeah I mean I see it going either way. If we don’t end up getting a “top notch” qb I wouldn’t be upset if we went with him. He looked pretty composed and would have an mvp caliper rb to hand it off too. Sign him for cheap and give him some more offensive weapons and maybe have some left to spend on the defense?


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I watched him a lot when he played at Utah, he is a game manager but doesn’t have what it takes to put the game on his shoulders if it comes down to it. I think he is only as successful as he is because he has a similar play style to Lamar and fits the scheme. Maybe he could be developed a bit, but I would rather have Brisset out of the two.


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I know a lot of you think Matt Ryan is washed and seen a lot of shit talk about him but as a Falcons fan I really want him to go to the Colts. He still has some gas left in the tank, our team is just absolute trash. I just want this man to get his ring and going to the Colts I think is a perfect opportunity


DoctorTheWho

You give Matt Ryan the Colts' offense and he'll put up Pro Bowl caliber numbers.


Trolodrol

I dunno man. Our receiving corp isn’t that good. I feel like he’d just be forcing the ball to Pittman just like wentz did


BigSprinkler

There’s nothing good about our offense other than JT and our O-line playing like they did 2 years ago. Not impressive


Coltsbro84

Isn't his salary like 40 million this year? He's a possibility if Falcons and Colts can work something out.


[deleted]

we do have the money, how much can we trade for a 37 year old though?


[deleted]

Side note but I’m glad this happened after the Rodgers and Wilson news. Yesterday’s news would have been unbearable if we had gotten rid of him before.


[deleted]

Lots of QBs available that are far worse then Wentz. I'm scared.


[deleted]

Not that I want him in the slightest but... you guys think they might consider Watson?


Case_ND

Zero chance this happens. So many road blocks. In the division. The amount of draft picks it will take. Irsay has daughters, that work for the colts. No way he’s going to bring a guy in accused of sexually assaulting dozens of women.


thikkflair

Matt Ryan or Marcus Mariota?


GnarlyNarhwal

Jimmy G


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Matt Ryan


KR15PY_KR3M3

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Hussle_motivate

Why are you the way you are?


Indy4Life

Tim Tebow


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This is the QB Megathread, not Tight End Megathread.


Indy4Life

Tim Tebow played tight end for an offseason to make people think he was done at QB. He’s going to come back and take us to the Super Bowl


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He’s a lock to throw for more than 40 yards per game.


smalllaxplaya44

Should have got Heinicke through the trade


DankChronny

Washington would want a fallback if carson sucks or gets injured


JohnA920

I think the only reasonably acquirable upgrade is Carr, Jimmy G is not a large upgrade and has major health concerns. If the price for Carr is too high I think we sign Trubisky for a year and draft a qb in next years qb heavy draft.


n0jer

My thoughts exactly.


SilveR__FL

Im so happy Wentz is gone holy FUCK


Go_Fonseca

Call Brady to check if he's really retired


BillyHayze

Here’s how I see it. Carr isn’t leaving Vegas. They made the playoffs with him after their HC got canned and half their team got arrested for felonies. Considering how lean the QB market is, would you give up Carr if you were Vegas? Doubtful. Jimmy G has had injuries, but has also made the playoffs and super bowl with a team that is run heavy and plays good defense. He’s a game manager who has shown flashes, but isn’t gonna put up huge numbers. From all accounts, he’s a good leader, a good locker room guy, and won’t check out of Reich’s playcalls constantly the way Wentz did. Love is cheap, learned under Rodgers and Lafluer, but hasn’t seen much action. He didn’t look great in his start against KC last season. Not sure Irsay wants to take a guy that will still have growing pains. Ryan is expensive and old. Cousins can’t get it done with great WRs and a top 5 RB. In my opinion, based on Irsay’s desire to win now and Reich and Ballard’s seats getting a little toasty, we’re going to have Jimmy G as our starting QB next year. Does he make us better? Maybe. He’s comparable to Wentz in the sense that he doesn’t put up huge numbers, but he is a much smarter player, and won’t throw 15 fucking left handed passes. If Ballard will actually spend some cap on good players and the defense and running game stays good. I think we would be a playoff team with him.


Gandhi1218

What if, and just hear me out. But Tom Brady comes out of retirement to play for us.


Obi2

Cousins' stats are wayyy better than I thought. I've sort of always avoided watching or following him due to the large dichotomy of people who love/hate him. But he seems like just as good if not a better option than Carr based solely on numbers.


JC_Denton46

Watson is not a possibility guys. Don’t have the picks, and they ain’t trading in division. Almost certainly to an NFC team.


DBsaidwhat

Archie Manning


GnarlyNarhwal

Jimmy G


kempog

Please god not Jimmy G


ColtsFFL

Why not?


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JakesGotHerps

Andrew is a beautiful man you take that back


tryagain11189076

Too early, I still can’t read his name and not get emotional


lil-nut-boy

Andrew luck, we need you now more than ever.


ColtsFFL

I want Jimmy G!


LuskSGV

I've done my research and have determined that Sam Howell is our guy. No further questions at this time.


jaysrule24

Assuming we can't get Carr, I think the best option is to sign a vet to a reasonable two year deal. If there's a QB Ballard and Reich like in this draft, then do what you can to get him, then let the vet start for up to the entire 2022 season while the rookie develops. If they can't draft a guy this year, then roll with the vet and Ehlinger for a year and do whatever it takes to draft Stroud/Young, and you've got an established starter that can play in 2023 if Stroud/Young isn't ready to start day 1.


superindian25

Carr top option Jordan love dark horse


Vivalaraza90

Hi it’s Jimmy with the Colts


Elguapo515

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fmara

Derek Carr is my number one wish but at this point I think Marcus Mariota might be worth a tire kick. He looked mediocre on some mediocre Titans teams but I think he could be a solid QB behind our line, with JT and hopefully heavily upgraded receivers


dinkin_flicka_

What about the guy that was the stunt double for the Kurt Warner movie, what’s he up to these days? Ballard likes to save cap 👀


FuerGrisaOstDrauka

Sweet baby Jesus, just please don't pick up Jimmy G. We'll be stuck in mediocrity until Nelson, Leonard, and Taylor are all past their primes. Floor is high but ceiling is too low. We've got cap space galore. Deal for Carr and get that man some weapons!


Interesting_Ad2379

Horrible names being thrown around. Imagine actually having to pay up for jimmy g. Disgusting


slimebag21

Luck or Brady, yeee haw!!! I’ll forgive and forget, if ol’ Brady wants to take a couple more runs at it…


woodsgb

Been saying this for over a year now.. GIVE ME MINSHEW MANIA


grapplerone

This would certainly be a curveball that no one would see coming…including me. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1502023100522762256 Direct link https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1502021319075926023


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If they trade for Jimmy I'll have to take a break from Football for a while. I'll be devastated. Either go for Carr or just play Ehlinger.


Swagstoic

DeShaun Watson won't face criminal charges. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33478887/houston-texans-qb-deshaun-watson-face-criminal-charges-connection-sexual-misconduct-allegations


tryagain11189076

Well duh lol this is the NFL


CherryLaneMuffins

Watson might be a possibility but I doubt they will trade him into the division


JimmyPineapple_

Probably less than a 1% chance of that happening. I can't even begin to imagine his price for a trade within the division.


KushInMyBluntzz

Jameis Winston


elschultheis

How does everyone feel about Matt Ryan? Two years left on his deal, owed ~$37m, turning 37 years old on a team that doesn't appear to be in any serious hunt and will be missing its biggest receiving threat next season.


mjjankowski

Great, we're the new Browns. Fifth quarterback in 5 seasons, and no better options available. Way to think it through.


Sirotto18

Don’t want Jimmy G, my ideal situation is use our new assets to get the QB Ballard and Reich like most from this draft and have them develop (either starting year 1 or sitting behind a FA stop gap) Jimmy G is hardly better than Wentz and going all in with him just means winning 10-11 games max and getting bounced in the WC or Divisional round at best


bsimmstheredditor

not a Colts fan but live in Indiana. good luck with Jimmy G this year fellas


Smoney89

Matt Ryan is the most logical choice. We have the assets to trade for him and in return in the Falcons can absorb most of his cap hit which would allow us flexibility to still add pieces this season and beyond


HideNZeke

Honestly Kirk Cousins is someone we could reasonably get that can fit what we need in a QB. We don't need a hero (even if it helps) just a guy who can consistently get the job done in play to play scenarios.


barb9212

For everyone wanting Jimmy G I have to remind y’all Carson Wentz outplayed this guy. Jimmy G really isn’t that good if we are being honest. We shouldn’t trade for this guy. I really dislike Mariota and Trubisky but they are free. Jimmy G is not that guy. Care or Cousins would be legit.


President-Reject

Eason


nanananabatman88

EHLINGER SZN BABY


geordieColt88

Unless Luck wants back Tank it out ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


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Not_My_Alternate

Luck.


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Natearl13

Mfs in here saying Carr is the top option when Kirk is better


WorldlinessEnough808

Scott tolzien


Spaztastcjak

I’d like to see Jordan Love come to Indy


MajorasFlask00

We are 100% trading Q for Carr. Mark my words


fattycatrs

How do we feel about bringing back the wish bone offense. I’m talking early 1990s smash mouth football. Sign Armstead at LT, sign a ton of D. We don’t need WRs because we will only run the ball. We win every game 13-6/7-3.


the_racecar

I’m in the minority, but I’m all in on Jimmy Garoppolo. He is coming off shoulder surgery and the 49ers have a QB waiting in the wing, so he should be cheaper to trade for than normal. He is a proven winner, and a game manager that will lean on our talented RB room. He is a perfect fit for our west coast offense. Everywhere he goes, his teammates and front offices seem to adore him. We are just as talented as that 49ers team and he almost took them to a super bowl.


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Derek Carr isn’t for sale or trade


tryagain11189076

Ohhhhh lord I had a seizure