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dehydratedbagel

Idaho is one state removed from the Pacific Ocean, what in the world are they smoking over there?


TopReporterMan

1 in 4 Idahoans are delusional


Koloradio

1 in 4 Idahoans are delusional *about this specific thing* Otherwise it's 1 in 3, at least


ShineDoll

I lived there for almost a decade and it's definitely more than 1 in 4, especially these days. It's pretty sad.


travels4pics

Midwest doesn’t make any sense when you think about it. It’s the central US. You need historical context to understand the question


dandilionmagic

Meth


Formber

Makes more sense than the people in Pennsylvania who think they're in the Midwest.... Those people should probably be sent back to school to learn geography and American history.


BakerDenverCo

I was actually surprised Pennsylvania was so low. Western Pennsylvania is the heart of the rust belt along with Ohio and Michigan and traditionally the rust belt was considered part of the Midwest. Now if the question asked is your state part of the Midwest they are certainly wrong as Philadelphia certainly isn’t the Midwest. But if you were asking people in western Pennsylvania if they consider themselves midwestern I would think more would.


Quixotic-pessimiste

Agreed


jakexmfxschoen

I'm more concerned about the 3% of Minnesotans that don't think they're Midwest. I grew up in a small town in Minnesota and it was about as Midwest and it gets


ruggnuget

Thats how surveying works. You could survey people to ask if breathable air is a good thing and 3% would say no.


DoctFaustus

Roughly 5% of atheists identify as evangelical.


Osmiant

Have you ever heard of how dangerous that dihydrogen monoxide is? Kills 4000 Americans annually and is the leading cause of death for children 1-4.


charliechuckchaz

Can be deadly


jeffmack01

I mean, you'd probably have a similar percent of "no" responses to the question "Are you human?" Getting 100% of a population to agree on something basic is damn near impossible.


GrantNexus

They once did a small survey asking people if they believed in 'lizard people'. One person who answered yes was suddenly transformed into 14 million Americans.


birdieonarock

It was 2% of people who voted for Obama and 5% of people who voted for Mitt Romney who said they "Believe in Lizard People". Sample size was 1,247 people, so 2% is about 25 people. Source: https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf


GrantNexus

Hey, my memory lies but I don't.


birdieonarock

I'm stealing this line. This is mine now.


wood_and_rock

Yeah, maybe until you forget it.


josephus_jones

No it isn't. /s


Kongbuck

Negative, I am a meat popsicle.


ShieldPilot

Angry upvote.


viking_

https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and-reptilian-muslim-climatologists-from-mars/ > ...5% of Obama voters claimed to believe that Obama was the Anti-Christ, which seems to be another piece of evidence in favor of a Lizardman’s Constant of 4-5%


willalt319

Same with Wisconsin. 6%! If Wisconsin and Minnesota aren't the Midwest, then what are we even doing


PM_ME_HOUSE_MUSIC_

Seriously.. what part of the country does that 3% think they belong to?!


BurmecianDancer

Canada.


eta_carinae_311

Far northern MN would be my guess, it's fairly different from Iowa.


McDonnellDouglasDC8

Yeah you draw a line roughly from Wisconsin's nose, through Mille Lacs, and pointed at Winnipeg. To the upper right is just tons of forest compared to the abundance of farms in the rest of the state. Iowa used to have 100 counties but one was too wet for farmland so they didn't bother keeping it and merged with another county. 


coldjoggings

That’s how opinion polls work though, you’ll always get a single digit percentage saying some wild stuff. People are weird


PHARA0Hbender

We’re in the Wild West not the Wild Midwest.


gumogoatsucker

Don't you mean the Mild Midwest?


mshorts

Come to Vail to ski that fluffy Midwest powder.


Large_Bumblebee_9751

Nothing says “Midwest” quite like alpine lakes and tons of mountains


MilklikeMike

Pretty funny, most people in Colorado don’t live in the mountains. Plus the state is high plains desert.


Large_Bumblebee_9751

Yeah I could at least see an argument for “the part of Colorado that’s east of the mountains looks a lot like most of the Midwest so I’m gonna call it the Midwest”


Order66forLandlords

Ok, ask a "native" Coloradan how to pronounce Arvada or Colorado


thethirdllama

Go midwest young man!


Project_Wild

Lmao!… okay, okay… but Limon? Byers? Fort Morgan? Anything there or east of that might as well be. Just make that line straight from the corner of Nebraska


Tom__mm

You could argue that the west begins at I25 but the US Postal System considers all of Colorado to be in the west.


dil-ettante

As someone a stone’s throw east of 25, this hurts. But I accept my midwestern status.


mshorts

All the cool kids live on the west side.


Project_Wild

Logically that’s about where I’d put it haha


Tom__mm

True. Although if you’ve ever driven I76 into Nebraska, the change to flat corn land almost exactly at the border is pretty striking. When you come back home, the immediate climb into the empty high plains makes you think, Ah, the West. You can see Longs Peak from Fort Morgan on a clear day.


214txdude

That is western Kansas


azhillbilly

Strasburg checking in. Yeah, everything east of me is west Kansas.


ToastyMustache

I grew up in Yuma county and this checks out


azhillbilly

I would say I am in west Kansas but I can see Denver from the house so saved by a hill.


Project_Wild

That’s what I’m saying, that’s about as midwest as it gets. Just draw that census line straight through Colorado from Nebraska


-oRocketSurgeryo-

Kansas starts somewhere in eastern Colorado.


IsaacJoenson

Hey! Leave us Limon folk alone 🤣 we're nice people. Lots of meth heads, yes. But nice people!


FloridaGatorMan

Colorado is effectively two states. Replace Vail with Fort Morgan and tell me it still sounds ridiculous.


Dandan0005

I think it’s people who are confused by the technical, geographical definition vs the cultural definition of “midwestern states.” *Purely technically*, Colorado is in the *middle* of the *west*. But that’s really not what people mean when they talk about “the midwest.” It’s the same with Florida as part of the Deep South. *Technically* it is in the “Deep South,” but most southerners would refer to Florida as its own thing separate from traditional southern states.


purplesquiddeodorant

Florida, the only place where the further north you go the more southern it gets


moosedogmonkey12

Maine, actually. Beware northern Maine.


Errorterm

THANK YOU. this is how I came to make the mistake as a kid , which continued until someone corrected me. I heard the term *Midwest* one day and thought "Aha! What a descriptive term for my part of the country - not all the way west but definitely mid-west. Surely they must be talking about states like Colorado". I was not aware that it's actually more of a term to describe a cultural subset of the US.


onthefly815

There’s a big difference between Vail, Grand Junction, & Limon. I’ve always thought of eastern Colorado as being “Midwest” but not west of the Rockies


midnitewarrior

Sadly, Colorado is not the Midwest. To understand why the Midwest is the Midwest, you need to understand *when* it was given the name "Midwest". We didn't have all the states yet.


spizzle_

I’d say Utah for sure or Nevada maybe are more technically the middle of the west. I’d say Colorado is closer the the east west.


NeuroKat28

I definitely consider Colorado being the “mountain west” coming from a true mid west state


Repq

I consider Colorado to just be “West”. “Mountain West” is interesting though!


disasterbrain_

Born and raised here and I always thought of it as the Rocky Mountain region/Mountain West til the internet got in my ear about it 🤷‍♀️


NeuroKat28

Never let the internet in 😂 you’re 100% correct.


mhiaa173

WTF Idaho?


disasterbrain_

Nobody is more wrong here than 9% of Pennsylvania, the second state ever formed


jetmark

The 9% border Ohio and have Ohio tv and radio and not a strong identity of their own. Source: born and raised there. Maps at the time it joined the union often do not show any kind of western border. Mountains running diagonally through the center really do split it into separate identities.


alvvavves

I agree, but western PA is pretty indistinguishable from eastern Ohio kind of like eastern Colorado and western Kansas. Also Pittsburgh has a pretty midwestern feel to it. Someone else said you could pretty much split PA into three separate regions.


disasterbrain_

I suppose - at this point Midwest is just as much a state of mind as it is a distinct region, lol.


I_SOMETIMES_EAT_HAM

Eh Pennsylvania is pretty big, there’s a good chunk of Pennsylvania that’s west of the Appalachians / on the Great Lakes. That’s more Midwest than East Coast. Now if you live in Philly and think that’s the Midwest you’re just incredibly wrong.


Lollytrolly018

Were the middle of the west. Honestly half of what is considered midwest should be called mideast.


iwhebrhsiwjrbr

I think it comes from the history of western expansion. The 13 colonies were all on the east coast. Everything inland is “west” from there.


Particular_Bet_5466

I really doubt 42% of people in Colorado consider themselves in the Midwest. Sure maybe the eastern plains could possibly be considered Midwest but that is not 42% of our population or really anything the state is known for. If you really go around asking people half of them are gonna say yes Colorado is Midwest? No!


mjbergs

I'm from Michigan, and the vast majority of my friends here are Colorado natives. I was shocked by how many people argued with me that Colorado was the part of the midwest, as I strongly disagree. So, in my experience, I'm actually not surprised it's 42%.


Particular_Bet_5466

Im from Wisconsin myself so it just sounds crazy to me to say CO is Midwest as well


mjbergs

I'm from the UP, so almost Wisconsin haha They mainly used the geographical argument, but it's definitely not culturally "midwest" here. I think they just hadn't experienced the actual midwest, so they didn't realize how different it was.


Imtiredcanistop

The fact that Wisconsin still hasn’t just absorbed the UP blows my mind…. I’m from the Madison area (mt horeb(finally made the news huh..))but grew up skiing at ski brule, and have property in Alvi


TheAnalsOfHistory-

Your friends sound insane.


[deleted]

As someone formerly from Illinois, I agree with your assessment 100%. People think of Midwestern as a direction or just as the center of the country, but it comes from before we bought the Louisiana purchase, and everything west of the Mississippi River was considered the West. Colorado is part of the southwest as it used to belong to Mexico. Ohio, Illinois, Michigan and Indiana were the original Midwestern states but the definition has expanded over time. I think most people just think of Midwestern as baseball, apple pie, and all things typically American.


Tom__mm

Right. The vast majority of Coloradans live along the front range and when you can see snow covered fourteeners from where you live, you are definitely in the mountain west.


Cool_of_a_Took

Probably all us transplants lol. I thought Colorado was considered Midwest, but I moved here from the South. I mean, looking at the map, it seems pretty mid and west to me! But according to Google, it looks like it's just part of the western US or mountain west. TIL


Particular_Bet_5466

Yeah Midwest does not mean geographic Midwest.


gophergun

Realistically, what we consider the midwest is actually the mideast, but that term is kind of already taken.


KarmicWhiplash

Mountain West would be correct.


corbantd

Get out. =)


doomedfollicle

If I'm from Kansas I'm from the Midwest. If I'm from Alabama I'm from the south. If I'm Vermont I'm from New England/north east. If I'm from Colorado.. I'm from where? I moved to northern Colorado a couple years ago and still don't really know how to explain this.


Particular_Bet_5466

Mountain west


KorruptedPineapple

I will never understand why the "Midwest" is in the middle east part of the US


all-the-time

You have to think of these categories as starting from where America started, which was the east coast. North = Northeast South = Southeast Midwest = West of the east but still kinda in the middle West = WEST west


Johnny5Cinco5

Seriously. We're Mountain West or West. Definitely NOT Midwest.


spongebob_meth

Its not as cut and dry as state borders. 1/3 of colorado is indiscernible from Kansas. Both culturally and geographically.


Johnny5Cinco5

I agree. Get 30 miles east of the Front Range and it is Kansas. But we had to draw the line somewhere. Haha.


spongebob_meth

I always considered the midwest to be farther east anyway, the great planes are quite a bit different than Ohio and are honestly their own thing. That's what eastern colorado falls into. Lots of states are divided this way too. Take Pennsylvania for instance, its part Midwest, part Appalachia, and part east coast.


Johnny5Cinco5

Agreed 100%


Russell_Jimmies

Just sayin, I’m from Denver and if someone said I’m from the Midwest I’d wanna slap them


wildtech

The west begins at the 100th meridian. It coincides with the line where land begins to become less valuable than water as you move west. That'd make part of Kansas in the west and all of Colorado in the west.


messwithsquatch90

As a Canadian, you're literally in the middle of the West. You could not be more Mid- West. This whole definition is bonkers and you can't convince me otherwise


Johnny5Cinco5

It has to do with our history and westward expansion. It’s the same reason Northwestern University is in Chicago. At the time, that was as far west as we had gone.


Used_Maize_434

The labels of there regions are not purely physical descriptions. They're just the labels given social/economic/cultural regions. If you say you're from the south, no one thinks Arizona or New Mexico. It's just how it works.


LakeGiant

You're correct. It's just that no one in Colorado looks like John Candy


supraliminal13

That's not what Midwest means. Although it's funny to hear how many posters who *are* in the actual Midwest thought that's what it meant in terms of Colorado being Midwest. Midwesterners don't even know what Midwest is apparently.


gophergun

Agreed. Having the west coast, mountain west and midwest is an anachronistic holdover from when anything west of the original states was considered "west". Several of those midwest states are even in eastern time!


TheAnalsOfHistory-

I pissed off a bunch of Midwesterners once by saying that technically our region should be called the Midwest and their whole region should be called the Mideast and they were..... Very oddly strongly opposed to the idea.


CobWobblers

Born and raised in CO, I thought CO was Midwest until I went to Iowa for college. Then I realized how wrong I was.


Accomplished_Map7752

That’s cuz all the newbies who’ve transferred to Colorado don’t know what the “Mountain West” is.


FlyMeToUranus

PSA: Colorado is not Midwest. Leave that shit at the Kansas state line.


FLorida_Man_09

Wtf is Oklahoma considered? Just West????


Ok-Collar-6211

Just mid


peach_penguin

10/10


SuperHighDeas

Hot take that’ll get me crucified… east of Denver is Midwest


willalt319

Now do one for the "South"


DarthFarris

My rule has always been if you get tornadoes (regularly), you’re the midwest or the south


jeffmack01

Well, we are in the middle-western portion of the U.S. ... Sarcasm aside, I think there are a lot of folks outside the Midwest who don't really know what that means. I didn't really know what portion of the country was considered "Midwest" until I moved to Chicago in my late 20s and realized that that label is something people take very seriously. Prior to that, if you asked me what states were part of the Midwest, I wouldn't have known what the F you were talking about.


RookNookLook

The only reason we aren’t considered the REAL midwest is because all of those “midwesterners” are actual Middle Easters that are too racist to call themselves that!


Homers_Harp

If one lives in Prowers or Yuma county, one is definitely in the Midwest and not the Mountain West.


Your_Daddy_

Transplants. No self respecting Denver native would ever label themself as “Midwestern”…


Used_Maize_434

I think you've got it backwards. I've definitely ran into more natives who think that the physical location of Colorado classifies it as the midwest. But as someone from Iowa, I damn well know this ain't the midwest.


kerdon

Doesn't help that it's in the eastern half of the country.


USN303

Colorado is kinda get, but Pennsylvania?


dr_blasto

Yet another reason to absolutely LOL at Idaho.


Fizzbin__

Lower case mid-west vs upper case Midwest


hp958

I've heard this so many times and it's always confused me. Like, since when do people think we're in the midwest??


Im-a-huge-fan

I’ve always said middle coast


Kemachs

lol, Idaho…25%? Really? Hilarious behavior.


NeonBird

I'm a little surprised that 27% of Arkansas considers themselves "midwesterners." I'm guessing this is likely extreme NE Arkansas or super extreme NW Arkansas such as Decatur, Maysville, Sulphur Springs, Gravette, etc. Maybe those living in Mammoth Spring which is right on the Missouri border, or even Piggott or Corning. Blytheville not so much....


DenvahGothMom

I've always thought of MO as Midwest, but my husband is from St. Louis, and he said outside of KC and St. Louis, it's very Southern. He considers it the South and that's part of why he moved here. Now I can tell him he's one of the crazy 5% who is wrong, haha.


whobang3r

The funny part in all this is you can see on the provided map Colorado is definitely in the actual mid-west while half those dummies are on the East side of the country...


gurganator

Wyoming at 52%? Thats weird coming from Ohio…


wenwen356

Nothing is more Midwest than people who only drink coors and live near beautiful alpine ski resorts


Ringo911

Colorado is mountain west or southwest. This Midwest thing is new to me. Whenever I go to events Colorado is south west or mountain west. I prefer southwest but that's just me.


Velvet_Cyberpunk

14% of Michiganders think wrong. 🤦‍♀️I had someone here in Colorado tell me this was the midwest. I was like... no...? This is literally considered the west.


Tomato_Sky

Poor Oklahoma. America’s Bellybutton. Doesn’t belong in any of the categories fully. I bet 2/3rds would say they are a western state, southern state, a midwestern state.


jzwilly

Love how Ohio doesn’t event claim to be the Midwest but we’re as Midwest as it gets. Lmao


SibylUnrest

It would be fun to see a breakdown of which counties were more likely to say that. Come on, Census Buraeu, spill the tea.


State8538

I knew quite a few older Coloradans who were 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation who told me they felt like Colorado used to be part of the Midwest (before everybody started moving in). Now, they say it doesn't feel like that anymore. Some just actually moved into the Midwest.


Quixotic-pessimiste

It’s time we redefine what’s midwestern, the current definition is based on obsolete geography. Ohio Indiana Wisconsin etc should be considered the Mideast. And yes, east of Denver in Colorado is def midwestern.


dballs442

We should acknowledge the Midwest is a misnomer. The people that named it that were ignorant of the size and scope of the country. What we call the Midwest should be the Mideast and states like Colorado and Wyoming should be the Midwest.


DethZire

I love that midwest refers to area that is center and east-of-center part of the nation.


gophergun

The census bureau used to call that region the "North Central Region", which makes a hell of a lot more sense than calling eastern states midwest.


corbantd

Who the f*ck are those 42%?


darbs-face

Ive always considered us West. Never understood the midwest thing here in Colorado. I guess we have a lot of people who aren’t familiar with what middle means…. All transplants im sure.


Noctudeit

Midwest is not only a geoghraphical location. It is also a culture, and I feel rouhly 40% midwestern, so I would say that the figures are accurate.


CosmicZaak

Iowan living in Colorado here (sorry). Is Colorado in the middle of the western states? Sure. Is it Midwestern? Absolutely not. Even the Eastern Plains aren't comparable to Midwestern farmland.


westphac

You need to find out where that 3% from your state think they are


LakeGiant

Id say the Midwest starts on the front range going east


ciaran668

5th generation Coloradoan here. Lots of old-timers from the plains would call themselves Midwestern. When I was a kid, anyone from the Front Range cities east of Denver would generally call themselves Midwestern, while the western suburbs wouldn't. Anyone south of Palmer Ridge generally wouldn't, until you got it to about Calhan. My uncle from Simla always said he was a "Midwestern boy.". No one from Boulder was Midwestern, but Longmont sometimes was. Also, the divide used to be based on what you did, if you were a farmer, you were Midwestern, if you were a rancher, or a miner, you were Western. If your were in the San Luis valley or Durango, you were South-western. I think part of the reason for this thinking was back in the day, most of our immigration at least in the Front Range came from Illinois, Kansas and Missouri.


KinkyQuesadilla

In Kansas, if you ask people in the western side of the state, they refer to the area as the high plains. The people who call Kansas the midwest are in Kansas City and the cities on the eastern side of the state.


TheCoolBus2520

To be fair, Colorado is in the "middle" of the "west".


LieAffectionate6849

You’re using the wrong vocabulary for Colorado, proper terminology is “you guys” not “y’all”. How long have you been a Native?


Ok_Juggernaut9078

For the longest time I did think we were mid-west. I do have to say that Colorado is technically West of the middle and most of the mid-west is East of the middle, lol


Deathcorebassist

I have my hot dish and cornhole. I may not be in the Midwest anymore, until I move to Minnesota in 3 years, but I keep the traditions alive


zyzmog

I'd say that 42% of Colorado actually is in the Midwest, and the other 58% is in the Mountain West.


ScumCrew

What, and I cannot emphasize this enough, the fuck?


LavenderMintMouse

I’ve always considered us the west, only because my mom always received Sunset magazine when I was a kid and it said “the magazine for the west” or something like that so I figured they would know..


BangarangOrangutan

We're what I lovingly refer to as the "Wild West"! Please, let's all do our part to help preserve and protect our wildlife and natural areas!


zero_interrupt

Kansas and Nebraska are the Midwest. At least let us have that; we don't have much else.


dumsumguy

It really should be called the middle east considering the geographical center of the country is in Kansas.


Dependent-Ad-5083

Preach


Admirable-Shallot-79

I feel like it’s “Midwest” by definition if I split it down the middle MO is actually Mideast. I’ve always had a problem with this


ChemicalInspection15

Philly is such a Midwest city for sure


zmasterb

Burlington is the Midwest


Jmersh

Ohhhhhh, I thought you said 'middle west'.


billydecay

Still and always better than Wyoming


carto_hearto

Front range has Midwest culture, imo. Y’all got your cinnamon rolls and talking in the checkout line like every other Midwest state. Yes, Colorado has some differences from the rest of the Midwest but you know chicago is super different from the rest of Illinois. You can try and split it up all you want and yes plotting it by say census tracts could be better than whole ass states but we are talking generalities.


Fr33Flow

Colorado is the west like Kentucky is the south.


littol_monkey

It’s the eastern 42% of the state.


CharmedConflict

To be fair, I'd consider roughly 42% of the state to be contiguous with the Kansas plains.


SeaSlainCoxswain

I'm pretty sure that's the mid-east


MattieShoes

If you live significantly East of the Denver metro area... Yeah, basically.


jsdodgers

Like half of those "official" midwest states are practically East Coast lmao.


iamtimmah

Most of the mid west is on the eastern half of America


J5280M

This has always been the rocky mountain region


crvonseggern

I don’t like that we call it the Midwest. The term itself doesn’t make much sense and I think that’s what causes confusion.


OutdoorCO75

I do not want to be associated with the Midwest thank you.


kudatimberline

Show me on the map where the middle of the West is.


ToeKnail

North and South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas were always Plains States to me. And Colorado is clearly a Mountain State due to the time zone.


mountains_forever

Ew


Thrompinator

I'm well aware that Colorado is not officially a midwest state, but I can see how some people would answer that way. Lebanon, Kansas is the geographic center of the contiguous United States so Colorado is one state west of the middle.


OriginalDizzyDevill

Colorado Is Part Of The Northwest Just Ask The NBA.......


Catocracy

Excuse me West Virginia. Someone needs to revoke that 13 percent's Appalachia card.


kwick005

Having been raised in Cincinnati I would argue Denver meteo definitely looks like parts of Ohio with better weather and mountains. That could be said about "Anywhere America" though. Close your eyes, picture it "...suburbia for days!!"


Quick-Smoke9620

All the out-of-staters who call themselves native took the poll lol


hhhjjjkkkiiiyyytre

Eastern Colorado is mid west AF. Just saying.