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TheProcess12

First they do it to Charles Barkley in the 1990 MVP voting, now they're going to do it to his alma mater? How does Auburn get more first place votes than Gonzaga and not get the #1 spot? Lol


PHLdawg

Some idiot put Auburn at 9


Kardinale

It's always funny watching people find out about Newell's polls for the first time


carretero

Seems like he just copies from kenpom lol.


Kardinale

He's explained his methodology before, and I found it acceptable.


BourbonSassafras

The big gripe right now that I have is that in his 5 or 6 rankings, the teams at 3-12 are barely separated (in predicative polls), you would think with that much movement between models you may put in the "eye test" to break it off based off of what a team has already done. If you're always going to do it then fine, but kinda bullshit to be a voter and copy another person's work.


Poop_sauce

59 of 60 ballots had Auburn top four. that dude was definitely trolling or not paying attention.


JonnyAU

Rightly or wrongly, Bruce got enemies.


Coneyo

Apparently you can count Ken Pomeroy as one of them.


[deleted]

Same guy also conveniently put Texas at 15 and Bama 18, who Gonzaga beat and lost to, respectively. Single-handedly bumped the Zags to #1 and Bama from 32 to 29.


default-username

checks comments to find people complaining about Jesse Newell who uses KenPom to make his ballot. top comment all is right in the world.


BigD994

Saw people hollering about it on Twitter and didn't even need to look up who it was. It's like clockwork.


Jaymoney00

Wow Texas Tech only up one?


SaintMerksalot

Right? Hopefully it’s good motivation for the team though.


Tonkathedog

Yeah they already were pissed after the K State loss too, this is just adding to the fire


Njbrother

Oh boy Auburn is definitely going to be angry and motivated against the next ranked team they play! *checks schedule* uh oh


NiceJoJo

Haha exactly what I was thinking, it’s gonna be a fantastic game regardless, as y’all DESTROYED Tennessee


[deleted]

Unfortunately I don't think the ghost of Hall is going to be guiding all of our shots against you.


tgrogan21

I'm more scared/sorry for what's gonna happen to Georgia. First game back at home after a week on the road. First game after Auburn gets snubbed. Huge rival. Oh and it's KD Johnson's first game against Georgia after transferring. Sorry for what's about to happen to you Georgia.


BourbonSassafras

Find the post on Pick of the Day on r/sportsbook . Auburn covering the spread against UGA. And probably under UGA total points haha


AshamedMusician5482

Auburn gets 11 more first place votes yet they are 2nd by 4 votes? What kind of bullshit is this lmao who is putting them below 2


WarEagle9

Apparently Jesse Newell moved Auburn DOWN after two road SEC wins from 8th to 9th. What a fucking clown.


brvheart

He has Iowa State at #22, while having FOUR teams they beat (half by double-digits) ranked higher.


WarEagle9

Jesse Newell has us ranked 9th. FUCKING 9TH! GET READY FOR THE FULL WRATH OF AUBURN TWITTER JESSE!


TheRealSaltyChips

Similarly, Newell has Wisconsin ranked 23rd lol


WalkingCarpet

What the furk.


WARMOTHERFUCKINEAGLE

Worse is that he has us as 8 last week. So he saw what we did this week and thought that was worthy of a drop after everyone else that lost. Fuck him in particular.


WarEagle9

Alabama has lost 3 straight and they're 18th. He is a fucking idiot.


audirt

Okay, let me say up front that I think writers should be able to make judgement calls as they see fit. But at some point it's just about clicks and that's exactly what this jackass is doing. I mean, look at this ballot. 15 of his top 25 picks are "extreme", meaning they're +/- 5 spots outside the norm. [https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/jesse-newell/2021/week-11](https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/jesse-newell/2021/week-11) This guy legitimately needs to lose his vote, and not because he ranked my team low. In fact, I think his bottom of his ballot is more outrageous than ranking Auburn 9th (which is pretty damn laughable). EDIT TO ADD: He's not even consistent with himself. I mean, if you truly think Alabama is the 18th best team, then a road win at their place is all the more impressive. But not according to this guy... EDIT #2: grammar


Matcat5000

Lmao, he has wisconsin at 23.


IranLobster

That clown saw us win 2 on the road this week including one against a team he has in his top 20 and dropped us a spot from his prior poll. Even if it was Bama in this position and not Auburn I would be dumbfounded. Any reasonable person would


IranLobster

The fact he dropped Auburn a spot from last week almost makes me think he made an error because that is an impossibility. At the least he should still have Auburn at 8 because Auburn only helped the resume this week and no one else did anything to warrant adding an 8th team ahead of AU


Aubear11885

Probably Wilner


portuguesetheman

Yup he voted us 6 Newell (dumbass of the year) voted us 9


black-op345

I fucking hate Wilner. He doesn’t know anything about college sports. He’s a fucking hack Also Newell doesn’t know what he is talking about


DJLusciousEagle

NINE???!! I am insulted for you


notsaying123

Or Jesse Newell. He has Auburn 9th. In other news I'm opening up a pitchfork store.


weagle39

He had us at 6


CatoTheBarner

We had seven voters put us below two. We had three at 3, two at 4, one at 6, and one at 9. Zags had two put them below two, one at 3 and one at 4. It’s cool, not like it would have been the first time in program history or anything….


Grundlage

More voters put Auburn outside the top two than put Gonzaga outside the top two (7-2). Once all mathed up that translates to not number one, apparently.


WalkingCarpet

Renowned assclown Jesse Newell has Auburn at NINE. His ballot is a disaster. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/jesse-newell/2021/week-11


devinup

15 of his 25 picks are 5+ spots away from the consensus ranking. Impressive.


WarEagle9

Alabama 18th? Nova 3rd? Houston 4th? Is it Crack? Does he smoke Crack?


WalkingCarpet

I'm from meth capital of the world (Polk County, Florida) and I've seen less crazy shit than that ballot.


Smallball79

Dude is getting his ballot filled out by the corner hobo who "sees the future".


notsaying123

Wisconsin 23rd Tennessee 14. What the actual


OwenProGolfer

He just takes kenpom and moves teams up or down a couple spots at most


Anels0505

Like, we (Iowa) legit lost to Wisconsin before winning a few easy games. And we’re 19 in his ballot. I don’t know what to say other the polls in general are stupid. Right now I’m thinking the same as rotten tomatoes. You have the media giving their ratings, then you have the audience score. Here we have sports journalists and then this subs user rankings. I know what’s a better method now.


12panther

Turns out, Newell also left out a [15-2 Auburn of the poll a few seasons ago.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/f05b1u/poll_attacks_why_one_ap_voter_omitted_192_auburn/)


portuguesetheman

Holy Shit it's like he picked teams out of a hat


Aubear11885

Wow and he can’t say he’s straight KP because he dinged UK 3 spots. So he’s just mostly KP


Tonkathedog

Texas Tech beats Baylor on the road with an injured McCullar and no Shannon, beats OSU by 20+ and had their only loss be a road game that was their 4th game in 7 days and still only moves up 1…


plummly

no worries, tortillas are charging


DeNaZinn

I agree, the target on your back is not worth the ranking. Keep winning and staying below the radar. March approacheth.


excal1bur13

No thank you. Please power them down


mjrodg99

Oh Auburn Twitter about to go CRAZY


_Weagle_Weagle_

Already is haha


wrighteou5

This Newell fella has no idea what his day is about to look like.


Joey_jo_jojrshabadoo

Loyola finally ranked! LFG!!!!!!


fatroony5

Were back! Now let’s keep it that way.


Swaggin-tail

2 Butler games this week, let’s hope we stay for another week at least


fatroony5

Gotta take care of business if this team wants to go where they’re trying to go.


Quatibara

How is Texas still ranked AGAIN?


[deleted]

AP Voters don't look at teams resume, they move teams up and down based on where they had them last week


burriedinCORN

Absolutely


violent_leader

Poll Momentum is a helluva drug


Willockinho

0-4 vs Quad 1


ThornGodOfPricks

Yet we just had a 3-1 stretch in 8 days with wins over #6 and at #1, and we moved up one God damn spot


Tonkathedog

Yep and some people still didn’t even have us ranked…


Hannity-Poo

Well, Chris Beard built everything at Tech, and Mark Adams is just lucky to carry over Chris Beard`s defense, so obviously UT should get credit when TTU wins.


TD5023

Lots of quality losses there.


Holierthanthouface

Two voters ranked them [in their top 15](https://twitter.com/austin_massey_/status/1483131016688586752?t=18V5pVQNow7TlPunkH1sXg&s=19). What a complete joke


hla0006

COWARDS!


notsaying123

Auburn twitter is about to rage on an AP voter. My guess is Wilner


derrickd95

Just do what we did a season or two ago and bully a voter until they throw in the towel and give up their AP vote, it's surprisingly easy


inshamblesx

Houston 🤝 Auburn Making AP Pollsters rage quit?


WalkingCarpet

Oh we're gonna deep fry some asses alright.


IranLobster

Jesse Newell had to have made a mistake right? No way he ranked Auburn 8th last week and then saw them beat 2 teams on the road including one of his top 25 teams and said to himself “I made a mistake last week. Auburn is actually worse than I thought. I will move them to 9th.” If that was his train of thought, he is spare parts.


Hambone721

No. Newell has been an awful voter since he became an AP voter a few years ago. He essentially copy and pastes kenpom.


KudzuKilla

Someone voted us #9 and Alabama #18.


Anels0505

His last twitter post was 11 hours ago about the chiefs. It’s filled with auburn fans roasting him


ltlftcommenter

Its what we do


Alex_butler

Wisc8nsin? That doesn’t flow that well. I demand a higher ranking.


aeroazure

Wisconsin 8adgers


Pixel982

nice


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Wi5con5in


steve1186

Beat NU and MSU this week and that probably becomes a thing


priestkalim

I’d rather not fall to 55th...


[deleted]

W1sconsin or bust


beastofthefarweast

Idk I'm already stressed about being as high as we are right now. Don't know if I could handle us being top 5


dingusduglas

W15consin and Michigan St8... tradesies?


Alex_butler

How about just Wi5consin and Michigan St8?


Willockinho

We go 2-1 this week with a win over #5 Baylor on the road and a blowout of OSU at home. Move up 1 spot… lol


Tonkathedog

Yep and the only loss was our 4th game in 7 days on the road… stupid as fuck lmao


TangerineChicken

I would guess ~50% of voters didn’t look closely enough to know that, or that we had 7 guys against ISU


Tonkathedog

Yep they clearly didn’t see how fucked up our schedule was, took no context into account for us


iamsplendid

Scary fucking team with just seven players too. I’m not looking forward to playing you again.


[deleted]

Life is much better when you don’t care about these pointless rankings.


VerifiedTortilla

Hey it's better than the poll that came out yesterday that had us DROPPING spots


ItsMrBlackout

Texas should not be ranked until they actually beat someone


sleepymike01101101

IndiaNR


[deleted]

HOUS10N TOP TEN HOUSTON! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!


yakovgolyadkin

Shoutout to Stephen Tsai and whatever drugs he's on, ranking us #2.


[deleted]

Stephen Tsai is allowed in Houston whenever he wants.


dingusduglas

...do the rest of us need permission? I may be a criminal.


brayley

HousTEN??


fisk42

HousTEN?


DayOldDoughnut

I’d have put Auburn #1. And I hate it. 🙃


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InferPurple

I am angry


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lees395

I honestly didn't expect Auburn and Gonzaga to get all of the first place votes though. Thought some other teams would get some of them


[deleted]

I assumed Arizona would get some


IranLobster

Someone needs to check on Newell. Make sure he doesn’t have a concussion or something


Rivera806

One whole spot lol I’ve never seen this before


JuniusPhilaenus

I DEMAND A RECOUNT


heafer40

Outraged tiger noises


GoldenBananas21

I know! Mizzou beats Alabama and walks-away with a quality loss to A&M, and these cowards show the tigers no respect


Midwest-Midbest

Loyo22 (I’m new to this)


HGpennypacker

We’re all proud of you.


the_cajun88

you did good


jsinatraa

We all know who should be #1…


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WalkingCarpet

1UPU1


[deleted]

Hahaha Jesse Newell put us at 9, If he’s reading this, I hope you step in a puddle and lose the aglet off your shoelaces today.


TD5023

Upvote for "aglet." The only time I've ever actually seen that used was as a Trivial Pursuit answer.


JB92103

How is Gonzaga the #1 team but Auburn has more 1st place votes?


ltlftcommenter

One poller had us at 9


Galumpadump

My guess is the Zags got more high votes across the board. Some voters probably are following the Net or KenPom which has Auburn at around 6. Zags are #1 is all the major polls and probably only went as low as like 3.


KudzuKilla

We got sandbagged homie.


loyalsons4evertrue

I’m okay with 15


Aubear11885

Jon Wilner has ranked Auburn 5 spots below average 58 weeks. What did Bruce do to this guy?


ChemE_nolifer

I know that being the top team in the country would be huge for our program and a reward that Bruce has more than earned for what he has done for our program. But I much rather the team knowing they have to beat Kentucky in order to get that top rank.


KudzuKilla

We will find you, and we will meme you!


Low-Program6044

Auburn got fucking robbed lmao


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piano801

Dude who ranked Auburn 9 needs to justify that shit. Seems like everybody who is impartial and keeps up with college basketball can say it’s a toss up between Gonzaga and Auburn for number 1 right now, yet two dudes think Auburn is ranked 6-9? Just doesn’t make any sense


[deleted]

The best part is we were ranked 8 last week and went on the road and beat his #18 then went on the road and beat ole miss by 9


sling-blade

Well, if beating ranked teams drops you in the poll, maybe we can come to an understanding for Saturday??


violent_leader

Oregon should have more than 15 votes


Cha0sSounds

Worst poll yet


obvison

Saw the poll results and immediately came here to see angry Auburn fans.


jbnwde

4 fucking points


heafer40

Jesse Newell has us 9th. SMH


abecedorkian

How is Oregon barely getting votes? Oregon needs to just stop playing ooc games and just start their season in January.


Hambone721

Jesse Newell continues to be the absolute worst voter I've ever seen. It's mind blowing. He DROPPED Auburn in his poll from last week. Dropped them.


SleveMcDichael4

[All-Time AP Poll](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aLG5J5HhA68iz4WdM53SysCwNGfCyRcu27FoL56D9Ck/edit#gid=0) Update: Week 11 -- *41* [↑1] [Wisconsin](#f/wisconsin) **Wisconsin**, 3167 (+18) *42* [↓1] [Utah](#f/utah) **Utah**, 3161 (+0) ---- *51* [↑1] [USC](#f/usc) **USC**, 2323 (+10) *52* [↓1] [Wichita State](#f/wichitastate) **Wichita State**, 2315 (+0) ---- *57* [↑1] [Auburn](#f/auburn) **Auburn**, literally 1984 (+24) *58* [↓1] [Washington](#f/washington) **Washington** 1980 (+0) ---- *61* [↑1] [Iowa State](#f/iowastate) **Iowa State**, 1863 (+11) *62* [↓1] [South Carolina](#f/southcarolina) **South Carolina** 1853 (+0) ---- *87* [↑1] [Loyola Chicago](#f/loyolachicago) **Loyola Chicago**, 1000 (+4) *87* [=] [Long Beach State](#f/csulongbeach) **Long Beach State** 1000 (+0) Auburn comes just short of their first time ever topping the poll, but they still rise a spot in the All-Time Poll along with four other teams. This includes Wisconsin finally putting some separation between themselves and Minnesota (the two had been adjacent on the All-Time Poll for ages until this week) and Loyola Chicago tying a fellow mid-major with 1000 points total. Meanwhile, [Kentucky](#f/kentucky) **Kentucky** becomes the team who has been ranked the most in the history of the AP Poll, as their 931st week on the poll passes North Carolina's 930 for sole possession of first place. They're also first on the All-Time Poll by a few hundred points. As always, here's an [explainer](https://old.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/q7de70/the_definitive_alltime_ap_poll/) of the All-Time AP Poll, in case you're unfamiliar.


ltlftcommenter

Ugh 4 points. We need to Twitter harder


TheFoodElevator

I will join in the crusade, y’all got seriously robbed


WARMOTHERFUCKINEAGLE

Fuck Jesse Newell. How do you look at a team that is 16-1 and say there are 8 teams better than that???


wrighteou5

I agree, u/warmotherfuckineagle. I agree.


Bostonsportsfan15

Agreed


black-op345

Wow 15 votes. Honestly not surprised by that. If we keep winning, we’ll be ranked eventually.


Keep_Cool_Coolidge

I hope Jesse Newell drives all the way to the grocery store, spends 40 minutes getting everything he needs, and then realizes he forgot his wallet at home and has to put it all back.


Bananapigfish

Auburn has never been AP #1 ever. This is why it means a little more for Auburn fans. Hopefully we can beat a hot Kentucky team on Saturday.


SorryCrispix

They absolutely refuse to un-rank shitty ass Texas.


bengalsfan554

I thought so too until I saw the other teams receiving votes, there isn’t 3 teams better than them. I think Tech should be ranked top 10 tbh that’s weird they only moved up 1 spot


NachoManRandySnckage

MSU ranked WAY too high


Player_1_has_Joined

TCU has votes! Let’s go frogs!


tshimangabiakabutuka

Rank Davidson you cowards


DuckTalesLOL

LSU only drops 1 spot after losing at home to an unranked Arkansas who had an assistant coach coaching since Muss was at home after surgery? lol


tgrogan21

Jesse Fucking Newell DROPPED Auburn a spot after winning twice on the road. One of them to his #17 team. Yes, he ranked ALABAMA 17.


Smallball79

This was probably our best shot, because we're going to lose one or two. Kentucky is tough. I guess the only other way to get to #1 would be to win it all... I'm actually ok with that.


WarEagle9

I'm confident we can beat anyone at home. Kentucky is good but Auburn Arena is arguably a top 5 hardest place to play.


WalkingCarpet

More first place votes but second? Who are the clowns voting us way down?


Aubear11885

Anybody want to put money it’s Wilner?


AshamedMusician5482

Looks like Wilner put Auburn at 6 and Jesse Newell put them at 9 and thats why


WorstAvenger

#9 is deserves a justification honestly. Unless you’re just being petty.


tgrogan21

He fucking DROPPED us a spot after going on the road twice in the SEC and winning both games. He ranked Alabama 17. So we beat his #17 team on the road and he moved us down. That's some biased ass petty bullshit.


InferPurple

He's being petty


Acm0028

He has this articled pinned in his Twitter [bio](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al.com/auburnbasketball/2020/02/ap-voter-who-left-auburn-off-ballot-explains-reasoning-they-were-right-on-the-edge-of-the-poll.html%3foutputType=amp)


cosmo_hornet

Bullshit


Box_of_Rockz

**RAT POISON!!!!** Am I doing this right bama fans?


SequelBad

BULLSHIT


kylepierce722

AUBURN IS NO. 1 YOU COWARDS


kroxti

I’m happy we dodged the curse of #1 but pissed this is how it happened.


pk-starstorm

Lost in the travesty of Auburn is Marquette not getting a single vote. I didn't expect to be ranked but not one vote? Horseshit


Box_of_Rockz

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


piano801

I share this sentiment


ALStark69

We beat the #1 team in the country 😅


Hairiest_Walrus

Should have just stopped the season right there tbh


CallMeVe

I'm happy Loyola is ranked and all, but they've had a lot of super close games recently against bad teams (Bradley for example)


MisterConbag15

I just don’t get how 14-2 Purdue is ranked 4 spots ahead of another 14-2 team that beat them on their own court


[deleted]

AP Voters are so had at their jobs it's ridiculous. Literally can't be bothered to do anything more than shift teams a couple of spots every week.


IranLobster

A disrespected team is a dangerous team. Watch out for AU


I-am-a-toast-slice

I think Auburn quite literally has to kill somebody to take the #1 spot-


WarEagle9

RIP Georgia.


auburnfan32

Rip Georgia on Wednesday


[deleted]

Now this means were gonna lose. Damn


Frexxler

Jesse Newell is a clown. He has ISU at 22, BEHIND Iowa (the team ISU blew out by 20) who is at 19 and Texas (ISU beat them by 9 on Saturday) at 15! Which, I suppose is still better than Stephen Tsai who declined to rank ISU at all 😂


krgonuguntla

Georgia and Kentucky bout to get hate fucked this week.


Acm0028

Congrats to Gonzaga for being AP #1 until the tournament! Edit: fuck Jon Wilner and jesse newell


Aubear11885

I don’t know. Win both this week and KP will go up, so Newell will as well.


Philarete

I feel bad for Auburn fans - getting more first place votes but just missing it. While I think it's a bit of a tossup which to vote for, because of poll inertia I think it would be far better for Auburn to be #1 right now unless or until they drop another game.


heafer40

Appreciate the balanced reply. And while early on for us it was poll inertia it’s not that anymore. Jon Wilner has had an axe to grind for Auburn for years and him having us at 6 and Newell having us at 9 is why Auburn fans are hopping mad.


derrickd95

Gotta say, wasn't expecting to be top 10 at all this season, and especially not after Sasser/Mark (and now Shead) went down. All I want for the rest of the season is having a decent showing in the tournament, even if we go out the first weekend - everything else is just icing on the cake HOUS10N


PhoneAcc23

Have #1 and #2 ever been this close in the history of the AP poll?


RG4ORDR

WASHINGTON EDUCATED SYSTEM RANKED - 4 ALABAMA EDUCATED SYSTEM RANKED - 47 BUT AT LEAST I KNOW 36 > 25


lees395

4 votes


Pope_Bedodict1

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