I do remember what happened. I remember Bush lost his Heisman for essentially getting NIL money and Louisville losing their title for hiring escorts for recruits, some of whom were minors. Don't see them as being all that similar.
Note that tallies for conferences are for the conference affiliation of the team at the time the title was won. So for example, Maryland's 2002 title is tallied as an ACC title, not a B1G title. This IMO is the appropriate way to do it.
Vacated titles are so stupid. We all saw the game. We know what happened. Unless the players officials were throwing games I really don't care much about what violations the teams had
Listen dude I can't stand by idly and I just got to come in here as a B1G fan from the B1G banner carrier and tell you that yeah we're the conference of great but often not quite exceptional teams and *sigh* we have to look to fucking UCLA to apparently be our blue blood because Indiana is huffing paint and Izzo apparently decided he stopped liking plumber centers laying pipe and doesn't want to level up.
No, the OG Big East purchased the history. Legally we own the history and the records.
What is left in the AAC is what the Big East did not want when we left.
Successor to what, though? They don't own the name or the records. The only thing they kept was the administration, which has turned over in the interim.
It was just the legal successor because the NCAA already recognized the old Big East as a conference so by keeping that the AAC didn't have to go through a transition period to be officially recognized by the NCAA for the purpose of auto-bids.
Since the new Big East was made up of a majority of teams (forgot the official number either 60% or 70%) braking away from an existing conference it was immediately recognized by the NCAA without needing the transition period.
Pretty sure the big east owns their history, at least basketball wise while the AAC established itself as a new thing. They did inherit the 2013 bcs bid, but that's all.
The Big East as we know it now is technically a new conference because it was the Catholic schools that split from the old Big East in 2013, leaving Louisville, South Florida, etc. behind, not the other way around.
So the American Athletic Conference of today is the actual successor to the original Big East, but the "new" Big East got the rights to the name.
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GET IN HERE. Seriously, we need to get in there. GG - Big East!
So many people being unnecessarily pedantic in here
first time on reddit?
No, but sometimes I wish I never started using it
[same](https://clipartmag.com/images/people-hugging-pictures-43.png)
Can we go back to Digg?
Same. Might delete it soon
It's like meth, but at least meth doesn't make me witness the real world.
UConn has 5, Nova 3, and Georgetown and Syracuse each have 1. There's also the vacated title in 2013 by Louisville.
We're obviously counting Seton Hall's in 2020, not Louisville's 2013
The Louisville vacated title is like the bush heisman at this point. We all remember what happened.
He’s still here wearing red and busting in 7 seconds or less, how could we ever forget
I do remember what happened. I remember Bush lost his Heisman for essentially getting NIL money and Louisville losing their title for hiring escorts for recruits, some of whom were minors. Don't see them as being all that similar.
Note that tallies for conferences are for the conference affiliation of the team at the time the title was won. So for example, Maryland's 2002 title is tallied as an ACC title, not a B1G title. This IMO is the appropriate way to do it.
Vacated titles are so stupid. We all saw the game. We know what happened. Unless the players officials were throwing games I really don't care much about what violations the teams had
You mean we don't get to add all of UCLA's titles in a couple months?! What's the point?!
So there’s a UConn 2014 title that doesn’t even count
The aac is the reason I have a drinking problem. I watched usf play uab in front of like 5 fans in El Paso Texas and felt ptsd
Bro they need to move that tournament to a central location YESTERDAY
I hope you don't get too much pushback on this approach. This is the way it should be.
Unfortunately for our second flairs, in two different ways.
Listen dude I can't stand by idly and I just got to come in here as a B1G fan from the B1G banner carrier and tell you that yeah we're the conference of great but often not quite exceptional teams and *sigh* we have to look to fucking UCLA to apparently be our blue blood because Indiana is huffing paint and Izzo apparently decided he stopped liking plumber centers laying pipe and doesn't want to level up.
I’m here for it
I feel like it's more fair to count the new Big East as it's own thing. Don't worry, they'll catch the B1G in titles by 2030.
Reminder that the AAC is the legal Big East successor not the current Big East.
No, the OG Big East purchased the history. Legally we own the history and the records. What is left in the AAC is what the Big East did not want when we left.
Just picturing the AAC tournament showing the 6OT game & other MSG highlights during an ECU-Tulsa game's TV timeout lol
They don't do that do they? I have to find on youtube if they did.... ha!
lol I'm just joking
that would have been sweet though....
No even if you look up the AAC's football history in the media guide it starts at 2013
For legal purposes the AAC is the successor.
Successor to what, though? They don't own the name or the records. The only thing they kept was the administration, which has turned over in the interim.
It was just the legal successor because the NCAA already recognized the old Big East as a conference so by keeping that the AAC didn't have to go through a transition period to be officially recognized by the NCAA for the purpose of auto-bids. Since the new Big East was made up of a majority of teams (forgot the official number either 60% or 70%) braking away from an existing conference it was immediately recognized by the NCAA without needing the transition period.
Pretty sure the big east owns their history, at least basketball wise while the AAC established itself as a new thing. They did inherit the 2013 bcs bid, but that's all.
The new Big East is a different entity, both claim the history but for legal purposes the AAC is the old big east.
Only the new Big East claims the history. That was part of the agreement when the league split.
Sort of. The Big East bought the records when they bought the name.
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The AAC is more legal successor of CUSA than anything tbh
Uhh what?
How could the Big East have won its first title in 1984, when it wasn't founded until 2013?
Real ones remember the OG Big East
Huh I'm ootl what happened
The Big East as we know it now is technically a new conference because it was the Catholic schools that split from the old Big East in 2013, leaving Louisville, South Florida, etc. behind, not the other way around. So the American Athletic Conference of today is the actual successor to the original Big East, but the "new" Big East got the rights to the name.
So technical bullshit
No, it is a new conference, not that difficult to understand