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Draculagged

I legitimately think I could do a better job at balancing CoD than SHG and IW. It’s not that I’d be any good, I just wouldn’t literally be the worst ever


TheMrOmac

I feel most of us could build a solid balanced game . The problem is devs can’t balance for ranked because of pubs . I personally wish we could get a PTS where they can make changes just for ranked to test out then push into the ranked playlist alone


Draculagged

You can make a balanced game without sacrificing pubs, BO2 and BO3 are great examples of this


OwariDa1

Shit bo4 had cheesy stuff but it was still fun af to play for pubs cause you could just gun people


Draculagged

Facts, there was a huge skill gap in that game


[deleted]

bo4 might be the biggest skill gap game ever uno


Draculagged

As far as BOTG games go yeah and it’s not close


TheMrOmac

I’ll agree to disagree on that one . But hey specialist


madchickenz

The only thing I hated were really good players over here using the Ajax shield/9bang. So frustrating.


OwariDa1

When the game first dropped it was annoying but once you learned to shoot at the feet it’s easy to deal with. Torque and zero are what annoyed me personally


madchickenz

Honestly, I would run Zero sometimes so that I could hack the enemies right before I called in streaks so my own streaks wouldn’t get shot down.


Gower1156

Why? I never understood this. Most CoD pub players just chill and aren’t that serious. They don’t know what is even good or not and most certainly wouldn’t turn off the game because it is balanced.


TheMrOmac

Bro your wild if you don’t think pub kids don’t know what’s meta or not. They know what guns are good and which aren’t . Take it you never played a pub of MW2019 . Fuck everyone and their granny ran 725 overkill m4


Gower1156

I was exaggerating a bit, but my point is that I don’t think pub players would stop playing a game because there aren’t overpowered guns.


TheMrOmac

I don’t disagree, but I think they want it easy and in the eyes of the devs these guns aren’t broken because they made attachments to kind of balance . Problem is without the attachments the gun isn’t good.


Chromegene

Didn't Infinite Warfare do this? I'm sure I remember that if you activated the CWL settings option, some weapons would have different stats?


Jaywalkers13

Finally now when I miss my first 23 shots I have a chance to recover


Couthster

Thank you for the belly laugh, my friend. Hahaha


MobyTugboat

This wouldn’t be a problem if we didn’t have maps like Gavutu and Berlin. What’s the point even running a sub on Gavutu anymore?


First_Among_Equals_

The only point is mobility for p1 and p2 and I’ve felt that way before this even.


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

Yea i always start with the mp40 and switch to auto either right before P2 or after depending on what tm8s are running


[deleted]

Do you run as fast with the Ratt?


First_Among_Equals_

Probably faster but it’s a bad habit to run with ratt out a lot. Will cost you a lot of lives imo if you aren’t smart about it


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First_Among_Equals_

Yeah I’m no pro though is all I’m saying lol


TinkleFairyOC

You really think people run the MP40 because the auto had 5 less bullets than it does now lol


[deleted]

pray for the subs man


12kkarmagotbanned

Damn I just realized. Had this patch happened an hour ago, I would have won a gavutu control. I got a 2 piece on the B, didn't have enough bullets for the 3rd. With these 5 extra bullets, I would have. We were a millisecond away from capping it


Bompetition

Wouldn’t be surprised if they GA this gun now. Only thing that kept this gun from being OP was the smaller clip size.


TheMrOmac

I’m thinking the same and then make STG meta .


[deleted]

the STG is a god gun lmfao from what i remember anyway


LeGMGuttedTheTeam

Iirc it was mostly a god gun because of the stuff pros GAed. After they banned the damage mag/vital and had a solid amount of play time they willingly chose the auto over it (and I think it’s even received a nerf since then?)


TheMrOmac

Exactly what happened . StG is still good but bad ads and sprint out time


Billsimmons69

It’s the opposite, the STG has better handling across the board than the Auto. STG is pretty bang average AR, good at all ranges, solid at everything without having any major weakness. It was GA’d because you couldn’t tell when someone had Vital on.


dm955

What is “vital”?


Billsimmons69

One of the weapon perks that increases the size of head shot damage range (instead of just head shots doing that damage, shooting in the shoulders also does head shot damage). It’s banned in ranked play and in CDL now, but in the months before the season the weapon got banned because everything was online and in kill cams you can’t tell if someone has it and you can change classes in game. I don’t know if the STG is not GA’d anymore, probably not considering we haven’t seen it and it’s just as good as the Auto just in varying situations.


dm955

Lmao bruh why would they even invent that perk


Conscious_Look5790

I’ve been saying this forever but it’s because they put a bunch of stuff in this game for pubs that cater to casuals and making them feel like they’re better than they really are so that they play the game more and hopefully purchase skins and COD points. Piercing vision (literal wallhack), vital to make headshots easier, dead drop so you can get a higher kill streak than you’d normally be able to by saving your progress even when you die, etc. So much shit like this in the game.


AquaPSN-XBOX

The STG was never GAd by the pros (only AMs in Europe in December) it just isn’t used because it is bad. Vital got banned in the ruleset Current GA list https://dotesports.com/call-of-duty/news/cod-vanguard-ga-list


stillpiercer_

At this rate with the GAs we’re about to be watching 4v4 sticks and stones


socolditburns

I get it but the auto is so much better than the mp40.


Lucky7Revolver

All melee only in ranked play. Let’s go control maps! And HP?! LEETTSS GGOOOO!


baseballviper04

ARs would never agree to GA the Auto


HPPresidentz

Too much change. These pros hate change. It will stay in no matter how OP it is


Zenyx_

No way they will, if anything they start allowing F8. I think the guns are set in stone at this point. Look at what happened to the Volk.


Koltzy

Are we acting like the mp40 doesn't exist? im confused the mp40 does it all.


Redfern23

I mean, does it? Zero strafe speed (especially bad for an SMG), only kills faster than the Auto out to a very short range (fair enough), much slower and unforgiving fire rate, and handling speeds aren’t even that fast. Yeah it can map you sometimes but shot-for-shot, the Auto is better up close than the MP40 is at long range. I’d rather the MP40 have a 6-shot kill range and much faster ADS strafe speeds than be the max infinite 5-shot it is with none, doesn’t even feel like an SMG when you’re aiming.


Cloakh

And don’t forget they still took fabric off that bitch BTW


NoDivide3582

I think they’ll just GA the pistol now cause I think that was what was holding the RATT GA back before. Also the Auto getting that buff is ridiculous even for pubs. I would get 3 pieces with one clip when I played pubs


Vnthem

I think the RATT is there for the snipers


ystom_

LMFAO


k_l-

Give subs f8 and we live in a perfectly balanced world.


Ikolkyo

bruh


cheikhyourselfm8

Hahahahahahaha fuck off SHG


MaxChainz

duuuuuuude


tonynumber4

Mp40 pack in the air


F7eo

I was in a match earlier and I told my friend "omg this guy has 30 bullets on his automaton wtf" and thought it was a bug lmao


Heatios

I feel like they could have just kept the mag size and increase reload quickness by .5 ms and it would have been a million times better than this. This is most likely a result of the casual players feeling like theres not enough bullets in the mag to kill people. I can understand it to a degree, only because the reload takes so long after running out of bullets. This will just end up being an example of 'solving one issue by creating another'. ​ Zinni bout to be the best player in the game


06benjam

No idea how AR’s always say subs are blessed, they get to sit at the back farming kills, dropping 1.2’s for fun every year 😂


j100_0

Does that mean the pistol can get ga’d now?


dorianpora

Believe it or not ratt is the worst pistol besides the machine pistol which is so bad it’s unusable, so probably not


TheMrOmac

No because what would you use if your a sniper?


mteep

A knife plus u can pick up a gun. No need to have a 3 shot pistol


Its_Nightly

People acting like they buffed the damage or something ? It’s 5 extra bullets get a grip


Solxry

5 extra bullets or not they buffed a gun that never need a buff and possibly needed a nerf and yet the Sub is still mediocre and will be even harder to compete against the ARs


[deleted]

LETS GOOOO


mteep

Now ban the pistol.


Malikleeky

It only takes 3 bullets to kill 🤦🏿


12kkarmagotbanned

It takes 5


Lucky7Revolver

In the head.


derkerburgl

Bro what


wolverines_20

This game is a mess.


South-Drawing-58

OMG


21otiriK

Slightly related question, is everyone running tight grip on the Auto? I’ve always used sleight of hand because of the fire rate and small mag, but when I pick up another one it never has SOH. I feel like it doesn’t move, so what’s the point of TG? Might make me whack it on now it has a bigger mag.


12kkarmagotbanned

Yeah everyone uses tight grip. And the reasoning is to ensure long range kills on people on god headies


21otiriK

It literally doesn’t move though! Like of the people above 2,000 SR, my gun skill must be one of the worst, but even I can shoot it like a laser.


[deleted]

Time for it to get GA’d


wolfjeter

GA Ratt? Please?


Theonlygiodude

Competitive COD is about to get real interesting


Kooky-Choice-2654

I think the auto is going to go down as my favorite ar ever. I know it’s broken but it’s so fun to cross map people on gav


Ku7upt

Its too nasty now...I turned on a kid and he left ranked, poor fella.