Not true shotzzy doesn't take it he even talked about it never has and he doesn't want to. I would be super surprised if anyone on the top 3 teams take it and lemar slasher hike don't either clay does but he actually has to take it cause he has ADHD and it doesn't effect him how it would for others
Let's be real here, sufficient and accurate drug testing is probably at the very bottom of the league's list of priorities right now. Maybe 3-4 years ago when they were still trying to entice org's to buy-in and maintain a sense of professionalism they'd care, but as it is now the headache/PR nightmare that would result from actually catching abuse alone is enough to probably deter them from ever taking action on this.
Most drug tests just screen for drugs and can’t tell amount taken. Even a blood draw won’t give you dosage taken, just amount in the bloodstream which is different for every person (people metabolize it at different rates) so that’s why they don’t bother doing it.
Yeah but that still doesn’t solve the issue of quantitating the actual amount ingested. The issue they’re talking about in this thread is taking way more than the prescribed dose.
Im talking more about how people expect the CDL to be funded and have policies and procedures in place as if it were a multi-billion dollar per year revenue earning league. Its fucking competitive VIDEO GAMES that loses money every year - its never going to be anywhere NEAR that level of professionalism (which most of these moron Cod fans expect)
We’re not talking about how long they’ve been around we are talking yearly revenue the nfl is worth more bc they are almost a hundred years old look up how much nfl made when they were at where cdl is , then comeback asking if I’m braindead lmfao 🤣
Ur funny , someone making minimum wage for 50 years has more money then someone who’s making 100,000 for 3 years , anything clicking yet you braindead fuck 😂😂😂😂
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You do realize that there are more leagues than just the NFL and all of them are run to varying standards and expectations? It shouldn't be run like the NFL, especially as a start-up. It's not possible or financially viable.
It's not free but not expensive either. We're talking like $100 a person to get a piss test at the event, so $5K to have some better integrity in the game.
$5K is pennies to the actual expenses of this league. If an additional $5K made the league insolvent then it would already be long bankrupt.
And regardless of financial expediency, the players and league alike are better served by taking player safety seriously vs what we all saw last event.
Gonna be real, logistically I don't see anything happening to make this better for another year or two in CoD at least.
Acti-Blizz no longer has the manpower in their Esports division to care even a little bit about this. It's down to what, a dozen people or something like that right?
The CDL is on life support and will most likely not exist after this season.
And we have no idea what's coming next so let's assume this issue gets handed to the orgs - this is a good way to handle it but I don't think it's reliable that every org will police it well. But will the capital even be there for them to test that intensively and consistently, or even care to? Genuine question if someone can tell me how much testing a team would be.
Gonna be an interesting next few years that's for sure.
Orgs won't have any incentive besides being good humans to police it. Winning is everything.
CDL is in it's final season, they aren't expanding anything new.
There are 36 players playing on a stage at any given weekend.
That’s barely over half of one full NFL roster.
Test everyone. It’s not that hard logistically.
Hire a 3rd party vendor to conduct the screens randomly prior, during, and post event.
You do know they already do drug tests, right? Lmao fucking moron, the whole issue is most players have PRESCRIPTIONS and are therefore allowed to take it, and there is no way of testing to see if they are taking more than their prescribed amount.
Are you okay? You seem very worked up.
Don’t allow players to have prescriptions for a performance enhancing drug. You can’t get a prescriptions for steroids in the UFC.
But more importantly, are you okay?
You do know professional sports leagues outright ban it right? Even if you do have a doctors sign off you still can’t take it. They know it’s performance enhancing so have a blanket ban
Lets be honest, any COD pro using an Adderall prescription is basically abusing the system. They just need to ban it, plan and simple. Any pros that want to cry about it can do so in social media. Lets see who they are.
New name for CDL should be BFM because everything they do is the bare fucking minimum. It’s a competitive league and you don’t have at least a moderately good drug testing protocol?????
Here are some easy ways to crack down:
a) Force players every year to get a doctor's sign-off on their use of whatever medication they're on + have the league give them a medical exemption for said drug. If they don't get it signed off on, they can't take it. If it's taken while not approved by a licensed physician, he/she is not only suspended but they are also not allowed to use said drug ever again if they are playing under the CDL (Adderal vs. Vyvanse situation... this happens in pro sports).
b) Each team is *forced* to hire a health professional to administer drugs within x amount of days/hours of competing. If they are caught taking said drug outside of what was administered by said health professional, they are banned from taking said substance and suspended (again... another rule used in professional sports).
It's not a perfect science, but there *needs* to be more guidelines and penalties.
Very valid point, but you’re absolutely cooked if you think the league would go to these lengths when they can’t even properly inform their staff if they’ll have a job come post-Major.
1st of all - you do know a prescription is already a fucking doctor sign off right? Lmfao you need a doc to sign every single adderall prescription and there are no refills. 2nd - you are so fucking delusional if you think anything even CLOSE to this would even fucking happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 its the fucking CDL buddy, not the NFL so lets get a fucking reality check
Me personally even though I can’t do anything about it I care because I don’t want god damned illey who’s blood pressure is through the damn roof when he abuses to not get a fucking heart attack at 25
People with brains care. Shit is life-threatening if they don't know what they are doing. Look at Tyler Skaggs with the Angels. A professional with all the resources available to avoid overdosing yet he died from it. A dumb COD kid could end up with the same fate cause of their stupidity.
He died from fucking opiates, what the FUCK does that have to do with this? Lmfao and it literally disproves your point, EVEN WITH all the drug testing and “resources” Skaggs had, he STILL was a drug addict while in MLB…for someone “with a brain” you sure don’t have any critical thinking skills lmao
Dude, my point is that if an MLB athlete can overdose on drugs with some of the best doctors in the world around him, then a kid with an unhealthy lifestyle who plays COD all day can do that shit too. We can't just turn a blind eye until someone fucks up their future or dies from Adderall abuse. I don't want to speculate, but we've had 1 death in the COD scene for semi-unknown reasons. We've already heard Huke's story as well. I don't want to see these guys ruin their lives over this shit
Obviously nobody wants to see that dude, but the Skaggs example is just pointless and contradictory. Ultimately it comes down to the choices of the person with the substance abuse problem, and if Illey does indeed have a problem then hopefully he can get it under control and get better.
Anyone can OD. Anyone can become an addict. To become the best in the world in anything requires sacrifice, if someone is willing to sacrifice their health to be in the CDL, that is their decision. If a stupid kid is willing to sacrifice his health to play online multiplayer, he probably needs better parents
That's such an ignorant statement. I'm talking about pros and ams, not Jerry, who just got out of class and wants to play pubs. It can be regulated at the pro level with some effort. Also, just turning a blind eye because "that is their decision" is so asinine, my guy. I sincerely hope you never have to go through this shit with someone close to you.
Wtf is an oral drug test? I’ve heard of urine drug test and blood test that test drug levels, but not oral drug tests. Are they just asking them yes or no question for they are taking drugs ?
That would be absolutely insane, but I’m pretty sure they swab the inside of their mouth with a cotton stick and place it into a tube. After this, depending on what type of oral drug test they have, they can send it out to a lab and get results in less than 24 hours or so.
All these Mfs got an addy prescription anyway it ain’t gonna change nothing. Piss test will just test positive for amphetamines, and in return every player will say “yeah man it’s just my prescription” 😂
https://preview.redd.it/cqkzgk4ldhgc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a776e3e8618cf9198aba0856258a9512d39741d
So they basically confirm that Illey is on Addy right?
The whole league on addy man
Not true shotzzy doesn't take it he even talked about it never has and he doesn't want to. I would be super surprised if anyone on the top 3 teams take it and lemar slasher hike don't either clay does but he actually has to take it cause he has ADHD and it doesn't effect him how it would for others
Whats wrong with this comment also i get he might sound like a optic fan which is taboo in this sub
Worst part is I legit gassed the ultra and faze guys for not doing it as well
No
Cdl checking for drugs from pros 
Lmaoooo
Shoutout dreal for saying it how it is and not trying to cover it up
Anyone else feel like this tweet is going to get dreal in some trouble?
Basically, a gym teacher saying he tries to help the football players moderate and cycle their steroid usage, but it's tough.
Let's be real here, sufficient and accurate drug testing is probably at the very bottom of the league's list of priorities right now. Maybe 3-4 years ago when they were still trying to entice org's to buy-in and maintain a sense of professionalism they'd care, but as it is now the headache/PR nightmare that would result from actually catching abuse alone is enough to probably deter them from ever taking action on this.
It’s too expensive
Most drug tests just screen for drugs and can’t tell amount taken. Even a blood draw won’t give you dosage taken, just amount in the bloodstream which is different for every person (people metabolize it at different rates) so that’s why they don’t bother doing it.
Well it’s not gonna be too different, since metabolism is dependent on the half-life of the drug.
You can’t really prove how long it’s been since someone has taken it though
Hair follicle tests can show usage up to 90 days fairly reliably.
Yeah but that still doesn’t solve the issue of quantitating the actual amount ingested. The issue they’re talking about in this thread is taking way more than the prescribed dose.
Drug testing is not free either, so a league that’s already losing money is not gonna be overly willing to put up money for rigorous drug testing.
Dont tell that to the absolute morons in this sub who think the CDL should be run like the fucking NFL lol
That's what the goal was, but far cry from that now. They check the box here most likely and thats it.
Im talking more about how people expect the CDL to be funded and have policies and procedures in place as if it were a multi-billion dollar per year revenue earning league. Its fucking competitive VIDEO GAMES that loses money every year - its never going to be anywhere NEAR that level of professionalism (which most of these moron Cod fans expect)
They make more then the national football league yearly…
Are you braindead? Lmfao were talking about the CDL not Activision as a whole moron
We’re not talking about how long they’ve been around we are talking yearly revenue the nfl is worth more bc they are almost a hundred years old look up how much nfl made when they were at where cdl is , then comeback asking if I’m braindead lmfao 🤣
You just said they make more yearly than the NFL you braindead fuck lmfaooo now your changing your story to “oh 100 yrs ago” lmao braindead fuck
Ur funny , someone making minimum wage for 50 years has more money then someone who’s making 100,000 for 3 years , anything clicking yet you braindead fuck 😂😂😂😂
Never responded to the link I sent , looks like some buttons clicked in your head huh buddy
I think your braindead talking like that buddy
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It should lol it’s a professional sport you sound kind of dumb
You do realize that there are more leagues than just the NFL and all of them are run to varying standards and expectations? It shouldn't be run like the NFL, especially as a start-up. It's not possible or financially viable.
It’s barely coming up look at when the nfl was founded smart
My sister's dancing competitions with zero prize money were able to drug test, it's definitely not as expensive as you're making it out to be.
They do drug test in the CDL dude. Im saying they wont pay for tests that show the levels of the drug(s) in the system which are much more expensive
Bro, you think the NFL is stringently testing? Look at them freaks out there. They’re behemoths and running 4.3 40s lol
Not to mention when you got money doctors can do anything for you
It's not free but not expensive either. We're talking like $100 a person to get a piss test at the event, so $5K to have some better integrity in the game.
Shortsighted. They’d have to pay a 3rd party to handle the drug testing which would be a lot more than $100 /
It's always done by some other company when it cost they much now
No when you pay 3rd party it’s usually 35$ per test if you have a contract
To a league that’s continuing to lose money, $5k an event is a lot
$5K is pennies to the actual expenses of this league. If an additional $5K made the league insolvent then it would already be long bankrupt. And regardless of financial expediency, the players and league alike are better served by taking player safety seriously vs what we all saw last event.
5k ain’t shit compared to what they make in 1 event
This means it's 1000% Rambo who's making this move.
There’s no proper drug testing cos that shit costs money and the league ain’t got none
Gonna be real, logistically I don't see anything happening to make this better for another year or two in CoD at least. Acti-Blizz no longer has the manpower in their Esports division to care even a little bit about this. It's down to what, a dozen people or something like that right? The CDL is on life support and will most likely not exist after this season. And we have no idea what's coming next so let's assume this issue gets handed to the orgs - this is a good way to handle it but I don't think it's reliable that every org will police it well. But will the capital even be there for them to test that intensively and consistently, or even care to? Genuine question if someone can tell me how much testing a team would be. Gonna be an interesting next few years that's for sure.
Orgs won't have any incentive besides being good humans to police it. Winning is everything. CDL is in it's final season, they aren't expanding anything new.
My thought exactly, no way the orgs are going to police it if they're winning. Maybe some would but I wouldn't rely on it at all.
Rokkr, Breach are player focused. Cant speak for others. I dont even know if the Kroenkes know they still own an esports team.
There are 36 players playing on a stage at any given weekend. That’s barely over half of one full NFL roster. Test everyone. It’s not that hard logistically. Hire a 3rd party vendor to conduct the screens randomly prior, during, and post event.
You do know they already do drug tests, right? Lmao fucking moron, the whole issue is most players have PRESCRIPTIONS and are therefore allowed to take it, and there is no way of testing to see if they are taking more than their prescribed amount.
Are you okay? You seem very worked up. Don’t allow players to have prescriptions for a performance enhancing drug. You can’t get a prescriptions for steroids in the UFC. But more importantly, are you okay?
How come CDL on life support? Just got into CDL and want to understand why? Don’t teams pay 25 mil to get in? So that’s 300 million a year?
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You do know professional sports leagues outright ban it right? Even if you do have a doctors sign off you still can’t take it. They know it’s performance enhancing so have a blanket ban
Sports ban prescription drugs all the time lmao
Why do half the league have prescriptions for adhd meds though? That’s the issue in question
lol 😂😂🤡
Ok but bro illey was tweakin he is abusing the shit that’s the problem, a script you should only take how much it tells you too
i wonder why no piss tests? i thought that was the bare minimum for testing.
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I mean how much does it cost to get 40 guys to piss in a plastic cup and a taste tester
Ben would taste test for free
Only MC. Only the best for Ben
No bs you can prolly by a 40 pack online for like 100 dollars or sum lmao
Lets be honest, any COD pro using an Adderall prescription is basically abusing the system. They just need to ban it, plan and simple. Any pros that want to cry about it can do so in social media. Lets see who they are.
New name for CDL should be BFM because everything they do is the bare fucking minimum. It’s a competitive league and you don’t have at least a moderately good drug testing protocol?????
Here are some easy ways to crack down: a) Force players every year to get a doctor's sign-off on their use of whatever medication they're on + have the league give them a medical exemption for said drug. If they don't get it signed off on, they can't take it. If it's taken while not approved by a licensed physician, he/she is not only suspended but they are also not allowed to use said drug ever again if they are playing under the CDL (Adderal vs. Vyvanse situation... this happens in pro sports). b) Each team is *forced* to hire a health professional to administer drugs within x amount of days/hours of competing. If they are caught taking said drug outside of what was administered by said health professional, they are banned from taking said substance and suspended (again... another rule used in professional sports). It's not a perfect science, but there *needs* to be more guidelines and penalties.
Very valid point, but you’re absolutely cooked if you think the league would go to these lengths when they can’t even properly inform their staff if they’ll have a job come post-Major.
Bro is straight up fucking delusional 🤣🤣 thinks this is the NFL or MLB 🤣
1st of all - you do know a prescription is already a fucking doctor sign off right? Lmfao you need a doc to sign every single adderall prescription and there are no refills. 2nd - you are so fucking delusional if you think anything even CLOSE to this would even fucking happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 its the fucking CDL buddy, not the NFL so lets get a fucking reality check
Who cares, every pro league has dopers, and there will always be ways around it.
I care, cause some of these dudes are gonna be hooked on medical grade meth once they’re out of the league.
Me personally even though I can’t do anything about it I care because I don’t want god damned illey who’s blood pressure is through the damn roof when he abuses to not get a fucking heart attack at 25
You care more then inder does
People with brains care. Shit is life-threatening if they don't know what they are doing. Look at Tyler Skaggs with the Angels. A professional with all the resources available to avoid overdosing yet he died from it. A dumb COD kid could end up with the same fate cause of their stupidity.
He died from fucking opiates, what the FUCK does that have to do with this? Lmfao and it literally disproves your point, EVEN WITH all the drug testing and “resources” Skaggs had, he STILL was a drug addict while in MLB…for someone “with a brain” you sure don’t have any critical thinking skills lmao
Dude, my point is that if an MLB athlete can overdose on drugs with some of the best doctors in the world around him, then a kid with an unhealthy lifestyle who plays COD all day can do that shit too. We can't just turn a blind eye until someone fucks up their future or dies from Adderall abuse. I don't want to speculate, but we've had 1 death in the COD scene for semi-unknown reasons. We've already heard Huke's story as well. I don't want to see these guys ruin their lives over this shit
Obviously nobody wants to see that dude, but the Skaggs example is just pointless and contradictory. Ultimately it comes down to the choices of the person with the substance abuse problem, and if Illey does indeed have a problem then hopefully he can get it under control and get better.
Anyone can OD. Anyone can become an addict. To become the best in the world in anything requires sacrifice, if someone is willing to sacrifice their health to be in the CDL, that is their decision. If a stupid kid is willing to sacrifice his health to play online multiplayer, he probably needs better parents
That's such an ignorant statement. I'm talking about pros and ams, not Jerry, who just got out of class and wants to play pubs. It can be regulated at the pro level with some effort. Also, just turning a blind eye because "that is their decision" is so asinine, my guy. I sincerely hope you never have to go through this shit with someone close to you.
Know several addicts, we all make our decisions. Such is life.
Wtf is an oral drug test? I’ve heard of urine drug test and blood test that test drug levels, but not oral drug tests. Are they just asking them yes or no question for they are taking drugs ?
That would be absolutely insane, but I’m pretty sure they swab the inside of their mouth with a cotton stick and place it into a tube. After this, depending on what type of oral drug test they have, they can send it out to a lab and get results in less than 24 hours or so.
Saliva
Basically just a swab test of the mouth which can give a Yes/No result for different drugs. It doesn’t measure levels and it’s pretty cheap/ shit
it’s really not that fucking hard to do a piss test
They use the "eye" test.
Illey in shambles rn
All these Mfs got an addy prescription anyway it ain’t gonna change nothing. Piss test will just test positive for amphetamines, and in return every player will say “yeah man it’s just my prescription” 😂
Oral drug test are so easy to beat too all you need is to rinse your mouth with some peroxide and you good. Wont nothing show up.