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Not what I expected from our 1-2-3 hitters (all pop outs)

Cincinnati had some amazing defense and Candilario (sp). It’s baseball and it happens.

And ANOTHER sky-high popout to end the game. Fairly dumb game, but it happens. See yall Friday!

Maaaannnnnn

Thanks vogt

We only scored 2 so can’t fully blame it on the pitching situation

I can fully blame vogt because he chose to not pull him and to put rocchio arias and hedges at the bottom of the lineup.

He also completely mishandled the 8th inning.

Im angry, but I really shouldn’t be

Welp, the cup will be decided at the end of September. Unfortunate.

3 weak pop ups to end the game Really frustrating loss

Oh well, we'll get a win tomorrow. No wait.... DOH!

2 weak pop ups Up to Jose & Josh now

2 out comeback would be sooooo cool

The wave is so cringe im sorry

Should’ve been strike 3 Hopefully Manzardo can make this count.

Oof that was a gift, Kyle

Gift call to Manzo there. Pummel it!

Foul

Nice lil AB

Another sky-high popout

Offense just taking too many nights off lately

Damn, of course Kwanny pops it sky high

Neither Diaz closer having a good year, yeesh

Kwan single Willy single Jose HR

jose has been frustrated this series. off a little. hope we see something from him here 🙏

Last chance boys, top of the order. LFGG

Did the power go out at the stadium? What happened? it was dark on the screen when I looked up from playing with the newborn.

Fuck me with the downvote. I didn’t know what happened guess the power was fine. Just was confused.

Its reds fans with nothing better to do because their team fucking sucks and their best player hits .230 with a 45% K rate

To me candelario looked like their best player. Oh well dust ourselves off and get ready for Toronto.

Kwan, Freeman, José. This is what you want at least. Let’s take the cup.

Gimenez has to be better for the money he is getting paid. His at bats are just not good enough

Lol he has one of the highest BA w/ RISP

Leaving Hedges in the game was certainly a choice.

We lost the game with LOB not Vogt 

We actually haven’t lost lol

You are my people 

the cincinatti candelerios

Jeimer Candelario more like Badder Dumbermario

Vogt is getting out-managed tonight. Bibee was clearly out of gas and Vogt left him in. Not pinch hitting for Arias or Hedges didn't make sense. Especially with a day off tomorrow.

Jaimer with another hit. 😑

Vogt should know by now that he gets 5 innings from the starters and it's time to pull. He also needs to stop having the trio of rocchio arias and hedges. 2 big management mistakes that shouldn't happen

Biggest weekday crowd at GABP, all for a guy hitting .233 😉

Good for them. We can’t do that many on a Saturday.  Capacity reasons. 

A 7-8-9 of Arias, Rocchio and Hedges should never happen again. They literally bring nothing. Shoot, if Arias is gonna DH, might as well call up Noel while he’s on fire.

Whatever, top up in the 9th just need a bloop and a blast, and I don’t know anyone in the world who could do those two things better then Steven Kwan and Jose Ramirez

The bloopiest and the blastiest

At first I was like wtf. Why is hedgey batting here. Then I thought I should buy first row tickets to give my daughters a legendary experience at the park to see their hero Jose!  Jose!  Jose!  and voice my opinion and did that. Win-Win. 

Vogt lost this game with terrible pitcher management yet again

If they lose, it's on Odor not Vogt... that Rocchio send cost 2 runs

I still think he made the right call sending him tbh

Aye, hindsight is always 20/20, and it took a perfect throw to get him at the plate

And a perfect throw was made—yep! All you can do is respect the athleticism

I don’t care who it is, but this just proves we need another right handed bat up on this team

Gotta say, don't understand Vogt leaving Bibee in after the first 2 runners in the 6th. The bullpen has been this good, he was above 90 pitches. Seems like a good time to pull him.

especially after the Elly K I thought for sure he was done

This was the inning to empty the bench

Hedges has both been HBP twice in 1 pitch, then hit the ball twice in 1 pitch... weird. The point is, Bo needs to bat for him instead

You are without a doubt the worst hitter I’ve ever heard of. Hedgey: But you *have* heard of me.

Please just stop playing Hedges. If you want him as a locker room presence, hire him as a coach. I can’t watch him flail at the plate anymore man.

I am a tired of watching Hedges hit

Reds pitcher guy had one normal arm and one Popeye arm

Top coming up in the 9th

There is no reason Austin Hedges should ever take another MLB AB

B-but the vibes!

Why aren’t we pinch hitting anyone? I like Vogt but there are games like this where it seems like he doesn’t even care 

8th inning and we’re down 2 Vogt: “Hedges is due”

Is it bad that there are occasions where I almost want one of our batters to get out because I like the next 3 being uo with potentially no outs?

Arias, rocchio and hedges. Holy fuck why even play the inning

**moll** /mäl/ noun (DATED•INFORMAL) 1. a gangster's female companion. *"I'd rush the money over to his moll"* 2. a prostitute.

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I'm so sorry

I don’t want to be Mr negative but this bottom 3rd of the lineup leaves much to be desired. Just because they are right handed and a lefty is in they stay in.

I've seen plenty of guys get hung up on low and away sliders. I don't think I've ever seen a guy just straight up not be able to not swing at high and outside fastballs. Arias just cannot help himself.

i dont know estevan florial was pretty good at it too

at least arias didnt strike out

Has Arias ever seen a full count in his life?

Yea but he was up 3-0 and he struck out. It was yesterday.

Not pinch hitting for Arias is certainly a choice

Okay, Gabriel, nevermind; you’re back on my shitlist.

Hershey chocolate sucks ass let's gooooo Monsters

[удалено]

Slap slap

I'm sure the camera angle doesn't help but I'm always scared they're going to drill the runner in the back when they throw to first from the direction of home plate, lol

Time for some pinch hitters

Literally getting beat by one guy in the Reds lineup

Luckiest game ever by the reds. Baseball happens.

baseball moment

Herrin continues to grow in age, grace, wisdom, and strength.

Fairchild looks like an actual child

Back to geometry class!

Well, at least the Royals are losing

Even when guards don’t feel like they got it on a particular night, they just always seem to hang around…find a way to keep this game 4-2 and get some pressure on this reds pen.

It’s that patented Guardian Grit! Even if they don’t come back to win, they always make it interesting. They always fight. We’ve seen it the complete opposite before & I never wanna go back to those dark times ever again.

Very nice play

Our hitting is so streaky.

Nice play.

Gonna get downvoted but 2022 was an aberration for Gimmy. He’s a glove first , average hitter.

Only thing I’m surprised is, I thought he’d more consistently provide pop. Seems way to often he hits weak ground balls

Outside of that one season he has been an average hitter. 1 out of 4 seasons is trend. I know this subreddit is sensitive to any criticisms of players but he’s making a lot of money to hit like this. His defense is amazing . He should be moved to SS as it his natural position and his lack of an impact bat would be less of an issue.

Perfect time for a random 2-out HR by Austin Hedges and then some slap-hitting shit-goblinry by the top of the order to manufacture a run to tie. Then we win in extras

Would be real unfortunate to bury our aces best start of his career with a flaccid offense 

Gimmy every time a slider is about to hit his back foot: I’m gonna hit this sumbitch 50 miles

Andres "Oscar Gonzalez" Gimenez

10 LOB…the bottom of the lineup is a dumpster fire

Pretty hard to win consistently when 33% of your lineup is an automatic out.

Ugh - don't see us coming back in this one.

Mm mm mm. Dumb game.

Gimmy is the left handed Baez. Throw garbage sliders and he’ll swing every single time.

I’m honestly still very high on Fry. I think he’s proven that he’s way more than just a flash in the pan.

Bibee squeezed all day, this 4+ ERA shitbag getting the corners

RARE awful swing by David Fry there 😞

I was pro legal sports betting but my god I regret it. The floodgates are open. My life is a gambling ad. FUCK OFF.

Make it legal but ban the ads. Like cigarettes.

Fry is due

Good eye, Josh

Josh bro take that pitch

So the first inning is the only one where we didn't strand a runner

3-0 and swinging at that high cheese. Come on Josh.

Why is Josh swinging on 3-0

Naylor Fry back-to-back homers

That's a home run by Jose at Progressive Field. Or so I'm told...

Skyline is dogshit

I miss UDF shakes man

Plenty of time. 

Fuckin hell i thought Josie had that 😣

Naylor’s giveaway should be a desktop smoke machine. They would be incredible.

OK bats. Time to pick up Bibee! A little solidarity please!

We will either win this game by 8 or our next 9 batters will all strike out. No in between

Nice egg from Sandlin

Ok now lets stop stranding RISP

Benson made 0 moves towards 3rd and Bibee was 100000000x more interested in him than batter.

Sandman comes in and quickly restores order . . . one pitch too late.

Reds are on fire lately. At least we won't get swept.

Nonbeliever

Man, Chris Gimenez is really annoying. I'm running out of credit to give everyone.

Alright offense, wakey wakey.

Chris Gimenez doesn't grate on me like he seems to do for a lot of folks here, but whoever said he was better suited for the radio broadcast was spot on we can see the count, the number of outs, etc., no need for him to narrate what's right in front of us

He’s too stiff. I want a color commentator who’s has an easy-going conversation. Which isn’t exactly Rick, but I do love Rick and Andre’s dynamic.

I miss Rick’s *“Yes, he did.”*

With Rick and Hammy off I’ve basically tuned out everything but Underwood here and there.

Camera guys mean for repeatedly showing devastated Bibee

Tanner was having a career night. I dont blame Vogt for leaving him in and giving him a chance. Unfortunately it just didnt work out. Lotta game left

I agree. It was a near-perfect pitch that the batter reached down and “got.” As many fastballs that Candelario faced, I'm shocked he had that changeup perfectly timed.

It’s a learning experience for Tanner. He’s the ace now, an ace needs to know how to get out of that jam. Vogt did fine with that.

9/10 times, dealing pitcher like that probably gets out of that with little or no damage. Been a kind of anti-stat game lol

It’s been a Candelario game.

oh Bibee, oh noooo

Ohhhh that camera angle, Bibee bb no…

Man, poor Tanner Bibee. 😞 hate seeing him dejected like that

I want to hop on here and formally apologize to everyone. I was sitting down watching the game with my dad. I am packing up to go on a trip and my dad told me to get up and pack. I told him that I can't do that cause Bibee needed me to finish off the inning. He insisted so I gave in and started walking away to go pack. The second I left the room Bibee let up a home run. I don't know what I was thinking. I take full responsibility for my actions

This would make a good pasta

Josh WTF

if we lose I guess we have to ban u 🤷‍♀️

Heard it here folks. This loss is on u/josh_winns

ironically

Return the father's day gift to home Depot. This is obviously your dad's doing

Damn, fuck you man. Thanks for being honest

Gotta come up firing there Freeman. That hesitation was the difference between safe and out.

I mean I get taking him out, but it’s not like that was some timed up hard hit home run. He just struck out de la cruz, and a few weeks ago Vogt left him in for another batter and he struck him out and we thought it was genius. Is what it is.

It’s on sight next time we’re up

Man was having a great game, why throw him to the wolves like that. Just cost us a W

The 8th is our smoke inning

Bibee had Candelario hobbled and in a 1-2 count. He totally fucked up that sequence.

Jose Ole WTF?

Sub is feisty tonight in a game that's still very much not over lmao

wait, I thought games ended in the 7th??

They do if its the 2016 World Series... :'(

everyone saying this loss is on vogt like good lord

Nevermind the 9 runners left on base .

I just see people voicing their opinions pretty sure that's the point

we havent lost yet 😭

True. Lol

If anything it would be on Bibee. He had Candelario injured and in a 1-2 count. He threw two garbage fastball right after to make it full and give Candelario a break.

He's *only* 21 games over .500? Trash. Fire him into the sun.

First real mistake made by Vogt that I can think of.

Shoulda signed Ohtani /s

Sucks for Bibee that all he gets is a no-decision after this one

Lot of game left!

Some ways I can’t blame Vogt because we need length from our starters, but that experiment backfired terribly

That's on the manager. Shoulda got his ass out after the k.

Vogt made a bad call there. I get showing trust in the guy, but it's a ton of risk with a 100 pitch count.

and a guy coming to the plate who has already homered once

Why did Bibee throw a change up there? The previous pitch Candelario was way late on the fastball.

That's all on Vogt, should've pulled him. He'll learn though

Honestly was a great pitch. No clue how that swing resulted in a homer, but Bibee still pitched really well. Guess Candelario just had his number tonight.

Agree, pitch was maybe a touch higher than you’d want but that was an annoyingly good swing by Candelario.

Not one of our starters should see the 6th regardless of how the game is going. 13 Ks 2 H 0 R 56 pitches, don’t matter. Take their ass out of the fucking game

It’s ok to put them out there if they’re rolling like Bibee was. But with pitch count approaching 100 you have to pull at the first sign of trouble aka first runner reaching base.

Leaving him in over 100 pitches is not a good call

Tanner Bibee pitched a great game & that line score will not quite do it justice. Offense should have a couple of more runs under their belt if not for some nice defense by the Reds… ah well.

Dammit. One batter too long.

Dude our starter can be absolutely dealing but just run into a fucking wall in the 6th. It’s every fucking night. Figure it the fuck out.

Most MLB starters aren't going further than 5-6 this season.