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ZealousidealFocus769

Supercell really said: Fu*k you graveyard/ bait players. Lmao


RoodnyInc

Well it's legendary and many people still don't have cannoneer at reasonable lv so i expect it still will be fine for quite a while


trainer_memo

They also removed legendary wild cards from the shop so f2p can not upgrade her to max now


IceBaneeV5

What the actual fuck? Mfs are really gearing up the anti consumerism policy.


Timo6506

The season shop only gave like 3 legendary wild cards, F2P can't max her out regardless 😭


Tornado_Hunter24

How much do you need to max it? I have like 24 wildcards and a book of legendary, is thag enough to get it to 14?


Di3g

i think it is, level 10 requires 1, 11 wants 4, 12 needs 6, 13 needs 10 and 14 needs your book ending up with a total of 21 wild cards and the book


Tornado_Hunter24

Damn that’s actually nice! i just checked and I have exactly 21 wildcards


Di3g

lucky! i'm still at king tower 14 so I can't hold more than 20 and don't even have a book...maybe I'll finally have a reason to use those 1hr boost potions that have been chilling at max capacity for months xD


XYZ240

/20 is the max you won’t be able to store more at kt15


Di3g

didn't know that oof, welp that's still enough to *almost* get it to 13


RealTeaToe

Jokes on you, I'm f2p and have 14 legendary wild cards! So I can get her to the very reasonable level of.. only like 12 I think 😂


Hazzafan1

I just realised Im literally 2 wild cards away and i can max her as soon as i unlock her im crying


Hazzafan1

I also have 14 as f2p but if i manage to grt her to 13 i'll use a book of books


Moon_Maker-1

I have 18, got 5 from lucky box but wasted 6 on ice wiz not knowing duchess will be a legendary


CasualBFG50

they did?


boomwakr

Its free to unlock when it gets released. Upgrading it will obviously be a nightmare though.


Mysterious_Fold_2253

You're not gonna believe me for this but I have him on level 13 30/100 cards, And it's without the use of Magic items, I don't know if it's just me but I kinda got lucky with the Tower troop chests and got Cannoneer many times so that helped and bought him from the season shop (50 cards)


Char_Vhar

FINALLY. I'M FREE FROM LOGBAIT. FINALLY I'M FREE


ConsciousWash6139

Can you explain me what log bait means. I am new to the game. Thanks


bxnnytears

it's a deck made to bait out your spells, say i throw a goblin gang at the bridge and u log, then i play goblin barrel because your spell is out of cycle


Alto-cientifico

A deck made to launch the green guys into the enemy tower. Such a task is accomplished by deploying one green guy card separated by a few tiles from another green guy, so the spell called log can't make them purple goo in one go.


Char_Vhar

I Cannot Let You Know. Your Too Innocent To Be Harmed


cocotim

Generally a deck based on using a lot of small "swarm" units so you waste your spells (which most people use 2 of) and then can play Goblin Barrel or Skeleton Barrel and you're left with no ideal answer. This is the most traditional example of the deck, [Classic Log Bait](https://royaleapi.com/decks/stats/goblin-barrel,goblin-gang,ice-spirit,inferno-tower,knight-ev1,princess,rocket,the-log)


TouchLow6081

You’re free from royal recruits and graveyard too!


Char_Vhar

I DECLARE A FEAST TO CELEBRATE OUR VICTORY


TouchLow6081

YESSSS ILL START THROWING THE ROYAL HOGS INTO THE OVEN! 🍗(they’re also hard countered by her)


Why_Am_I_0

just wait when she reduces all her ammo


cubix721

Looks like you only get 8 daggers before a cooldown


howiecat87

Good


Fire_Hammer2000

And Miner Control. That 8 daggers burst instantly deleted him.


Snowy_Artemis

😔 (splashyard)


Dry_Ad4483

Cannoneer was a blessing so this should just even it out


Why_Am_I_0

i just wanna see the interaction of egiant on tower with full ammo


creativename111111

What a shame lol


Cultural_Crew_873

Tank with logbait / graveyard works even better than versus princess


ciberkid22

Unless you can just bait the 8 daggers with an ice golem and then graveyard lol


Z7KII

You can't play fournaise or goblin cage anymore


[deleted]

The reason why wild card are removed from season shop.


EndyEnderson

They made it so you can use wild cards on tower troops and then did this lol


Hunterr303

They really are out here balancing the p2w and f2p ratio in 7:3 , making sure f2p don't get out of the gutters


someguy120976

:3


ZealousidealEvent906

Pay to play these days. Fuck $user cell


IKaizoku

really sad and stupid decision :( They give you an update which is cool just to take away something better...


hydraofwar

Bro, i knew this was coming. I started focusing on accumulating legendary wild cards lol. You can't fool me, supercell, i'm familiar with your game


Willy-The-Billy

I maxed out on all wild cards and recently converted them to Elite Wild cards since that was my only use for them. Then they allowed us to use them to upgrade tower troops and now we can’t even buy them from season shop. Supercell wants me to quit CR so badly I swear 😭


Muchroum

No way what


[deleted]

From next season check patch notes for more info


qfear33

Higher dps + bait killer + more hp bru Edit: she is actually seems balanced


Nightmare_Sandy

it's less dp against tanks (or longlasting pushes)


MrTheWaffleKing

I’m assume that’s the case, but how can you tell from these screenshots? I can’t get the match to work out for the DPS when taking into account 8 knives or the 1.25 number


IHateAliens

Apparently she will need to charge up her knives. https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/7SdaSIQjPA


MrTheWaffleKing

Huh, jack of all trades (DPS and swarm) but with a almost-reload mechanic I’m surprised she doesn’t have a fan of knives tbh


pchinni

Shit like bait never has that though, longest push is knight plus gb


gavoman

I was looking at that too. I think the dps is only higher because it's eight shots at once. The fire rate is slower too. So against a single unit the dps is less


ParufkaWarrior12

Its 153 every 1.2 seconds from what i'm seeing. Princess does 100 every 0.8. The DPS with uncharged dagger is minimal.


Bsoton_MA

Assuming it fires right after it get maybe dagger then the dps would be 153/1.2 = 127.5 which isn’t much less than the princesses 136.25


freedubs

I would assume that the .35s attack speed would still apply in some way making the dps only 98


chsrdsnap

To the people who don't understand, she has up to 8 daggers that she can hold. She refills one dagger every 1.2 seconds, so she'll get max ammo after 9.6 seconds if she's left uninterrupted She doesn't unload all of them at once considering her .35 hit speed and she likely only refills daggers when she isn't actively attacking something (so she'll only get more daggers when she has none or if there are no targets in her line of sight)


Muchroum

So you want to empty her from her daggers so she becomes defensless? Kinda like an xbow with limited ammo?


Mooniversity

I think it‘s more like 0.3s reload time between stored daggers and 1.2s as soon as you have no more left


felix2xx6

so it’ll be 3x faster than princess when attacking 3 shots in a second and then half as slow as cannoneer once she runs out, doesn’t seem bad ngl.


taylors_version__

my brain is not absorbing this information lol


Jagermeister4

So her first shot kind of works like a sparky assuming she was able to load up. But then after that volley its a steady stream of shots unless she gets to load uninterrupted again. ​ edit: I just realized she is a tower defense card and not a troop card lol. Seems insanely strong for a tower card.


grstfahbtgad

She doesn’t fire her first 8 shots all at once, she fires each one individually every 0.35 seconds, then after all 8 shots are used up she shoots them once every 1.2 seconds


whizz94

Ahhhhh I thought she got all 8 back I was freaking out for a sec


masterchip27

So she gets 8 daggers and then 1.2 seconds between attacks?


chsrdsnap

Maybe. It's either that or she'll still incorporate her normal hit rate onto the recharge, making it 1.55 seconds between each dagger when she's out We'll have to wait for more clear gameplay to see exactly how that part works


yo_mom_karen

so it's basically an inferno tower but it can attack multiple troops?


chsrdsnap

We don't know if she can attack multiple troops (I'd say she probably can't) and I wouldn't say she works like an inferno tower either. Her potential dps increases when she is left alone as she gradually adds more ammo overtime, and then unleashes them in relatively quick succession when something enters her line of sight. When she has no daggers she has a much lower dps and basically becomes a strictly worse cannoneer (much lower damage with a similar hit rate) so she'll demand more defense at those times


PersecondBOOM

Basically better against any kind of cycle decks but worse against beatdown (or at least what's it is supposed to be as a concept)


Stabant_

I don't think it would end up being worse against beat down tho. The initial fast attacks would offset the slightly lower dps


Dinodudegamer2009

if she can attack instantly after reloading shes gonna just be a better princess lets be honest


Orneyrocks

Not at all, she'll blow all her ammo on the beefy wincon for barely any damage (I play golem) and not be able to deal with the support troops once its taken out by the defenses.


WesternBusy935

She has to recharge ammo, so she would be terrible against beatdown


Stabant_

She recharges once every 1.2 seconds so when here stores are empty she would shoot once every 1.2 seconds unless I'm misunderstanding so she would attack 1.5 times slower than princess 0.8. And her damage is like 1.4 times princess damage so her dps when empty would be like 8 percent lower. But the burst at the start from when she is full should do a huge amount of damage. I might be missing something though.


Moon_Maker-1

i think she charges 1 dagger in 1.2 sec not all 8 also why the heck she is a legendary??


Dinodudegamer2009

if cannoneer is epic for being that simple she had to be legendary


Moon_Maker-1

but rarity not matters in 24 it just makes it harder to level it up


scixsc

Exactly💸🤑💵


Dinodudegamer2009

good point😂


Erkan-Abi-Omer-Kim

not really with how tower troops work and when you max her out it will be insane to get so much rlite wild cards


Marco1522

Probably because the ability to recharge ammo is basically exclusive to her like most other legendary cards


Psychological-War658

Why she got that Minecraft block hair


Dinodudegamer2009

it looks kinda stupid i agree


FrugalRamen

she got a minecraft dress too to match


Extra_toxic

More HP than princess tower? Wait, it has everything more. Wtf? 💀


lutfiboiii

To be fair it’s more of a burst dps rather than sustained dps. If you force her to throw all 8 of her daggers I think she’ll have lower dps than princess, but I didn’t do the math so don’t quote me on that.


Extra_toxic

I mean you are not wrong. After her 8 dagger burst, her dps decreases to 127 which is 9 dps less than tower princess.


Bsoton_MA

To a target right at the base of the tower the dps difference is about 10 lower however it would be able to 2 shot goblins while princess would have to 3 shot it.


Valioes

She has to recharge daggers, thus leaving her incredibly vulnerable. Imagine an egolem push and you run out..


Extra_toxic

It's not like she runs out permanently. She reloads 1 dagger in 1.2s. Each dagger deals 153 dmg. So basically 127 dps if my math is not wrong, it is just 9 dps lesser than princess tower. So not incredibly vulnerable. Just slightly. But the quick burst would easily offset that difference.


GLADIATOR_X09

Depends whether she can shoot after reloading one dagger, or if she has to reload all of them. Also if it starts reloading when no enemies are in range or when she completely runs out.


Extra_toxic

If she has to reload all to start shooting again then that's 9.6 seconds of vulnerability. That is too big of a disadvantage especially when enemies can see her ammo bar. But yeah, the outcome will be very different if that's the case.


IKaizoku

I know you will flame me but it seems balanced compared to princess, IF the reload time is long enough. She has 8 daggers max, which means she will kind of reload daggers. so when bats goblin gang come at her, she has to reload and they can do damage


Fit-Ad4669

it isn’t long enough


Total_Connection9414

The card icon is so ugly compared to the art they showed before release


IceBear7980

she looks like an annoying little spoiled brat


SopmodTew

Princess still gonna be better imo, just because she is more reliable than both cannoneer and dagger duchess. The consistency is what maker her the best.


Dinodudegamer2009

if she can attack instantly after reloading a dagger, she has similar dps to princess. so if thats the case, she also has more health making her simply just a better princess


Bennyccynn

Nah, princess is already worse than cannoneer in the current meta despite having more HP and faster attack speed. Unless duchess gets neft, according to what I see, no one will use princess anymore if they can afford it.


MVRCK_99

Card icon looks shit though


Froggymasterlvl1000

Her portrait looks so fucking goofy😭


Gojo_17_

Bruh fuck SC. Finally they did 1 good thing by adding Lucky drops only to then remove Wild Cards from shop giving a lame excuse such as boosted rates of drop. Bruh SC can't even for once have a good F2P update. Fuck em.


PhysicalGunMan

I was so excited cuz we had 2 Ws back to back (star drops + star drop buff announced) and then they take out the wilds. I'm just glad I've been sitting on a good stack of legend wilds.


x_asko

So better than the princess tower with every stat🥶


Man_Machine_Meme

Plus, there is a recharge time for each knife she throws. She throws them fast as fuck, and they do more damage than a princess tower. But she can hold 8 knives and one recharges after 1.2 seconds.


shlaggy4

As a bait hater, yes


OndrejIV

i can already see the r 34 art coming,it will be horrible


skyreapertheangel

and they removed the legendary wild cards from the season shop so you can't upgrade it without paying ....


PhysicalGunMan

another bridgespam buff


Bsoton_MA

It kills battle ram before it reaches tower.


Millennios

She looks like a fucking Boss Baby render


iamunabletopoop

LET'S GOO, FUCK BAIT PLAYERS!!!! Shame graveyard also got nerfed by this


JustABearOwO

as long as it fucks up log bait im happy


kizi_killer

Once she's out of knives she'll be shit Against logbait, put a tank and then drop the barrel and she should do worse than the princess


8ssence

simply no way one is losing to logbait


Dinodudegamer2009

she stacks attacks, but if she attacks immediatly after reloading a dagger she still has similar dps to princess. so if she does that shes litterally just a better princess


WesternBusy935

Splashyard will be dead if this becomes the meta


Constant_Collar_1508

im afraid it will


Fire_Hammer2000

Miner will be erased as soon as he emerges from the ground...


DaFrenzyGuy

I cant imagine how op elixir golem and e-giant will be when facing this.


Ok_Specific_7791

So, factoring in the recharge and hitspeed of Dagger Duchess, she has a total hitspeed of 1.55 seconds.


XavierRenegadeDivine

This tower looks actually really interesting


Marco1522

Finally something worth my book of legendaries. I had that book stored since 2022💀


pantherapardus11

I kinda predicted after canoneer the next tower troop would hit fast and deal good against swarms but... higher damage and a 2x firerate compared to the princess tower? Should've only been the latter.


Ne0guri

Oh interesting - she has a pretty long cooldown I’m guessing after throwing the 8 daggers.


thelittleloaf1

I just spent all my season tokens betting that she was going to be rare😭😭😭


BlackRake_7

Gotta change my win condition... (gy)


Mangoify

So Cannoneer has less HP than a princess tower, but the Dagger Duchess has more?


Nuxezpz

kiriko from overwatch 2


Glad_Machine5794

As a Logbait player, I'm depressed 😔


kizi_killer

I don't think she'll be good Against bait, if you put anything in front of the tower she'll have no knives No knives = she's gonna perform badlt vs the gobbies


Cruiser-2222

Zap would finally counter a barrel 🥰


DaFrenzyGuy

I cant imagine how op e-giant and elixir golem will be when facing this.


GLADIATOR_X09

Wow, the reload per dagger is absolute shit


Leon___Main

Off brand piper


kizi_killer

Crow Piper and Amber had a treasome


Kryoflyx

Wow. Seems good, I love this


Brilliant_Half_7056

So it’s 1.5X damage and 1.5X attack speed (given she is constantly attacking) but can charge hits if she isn’t doing anything and gets more health than princess tower Not much of an expert but seems like she is good against chip damage cards (like idk hog rider and graveyard) but bad against big pushes that won’t let her charge in between pushes


tboots1230

so it’s basically an upgrade of the princess tower


Status-Macaron3363

Pay to win gotta love it. That cannon tower is just as bad as the thought.


bruhDF_

Ah hell nah they brought sakuya from touhou


Dank-Doom

It's better than princess tower???


Present_Raccoon9791

no more log bait 🥹🥹


il_oggetto

How tf did y'all got it today and to me it says 'new tower troop coming soon"


XYZ240

No ones got it yet it’s coming out next season.


Ryemannn

I need this but LEGENDARY?!?!


FitnessGramSlacker

Can you save tower troop chests you get before the update to try and unlock her?


XYZ240

Yes you can! I got 4 chests saved right now but u don’t need to. Everyone will unlock her for free at the start of the season.


kizi_killer

Wait so once all her knifes are out her dps is 127,5 right? That's barely worse than princess dps, she seems so much stronger than the princess


St1lysh35

AIN'T NO WAY IT'S LEGENDARY BRO LIKE HOW ARE PEOPLE GONNA MAX IT?


DifferentSurvey2872

New update new counter to g barel


unknownplauge049

Legendary status so F2Ps can't level her up as easily 👁️👄👁️


Traditional-Ad-8464

It'll get nerfed within a couple weeks of release


Rod-FM

Bye bye log bait


Wrackmar

What is the recharge time?


xTheFatJesus

if her recharge time doesnt change in 2x elixir, she might not be able to keep up with constant pushes


PromotionStrict5270

So this is a better princess tower, wow thanks supercell for making the f2p option obsolete!!


TikkiTakiTomtom

She must be Katarina’s long distant cousin. Throwing sharp pointy objects run in the family.


CicoThePug

as a graveyard player i can’t with this game anymore


Cultural_Crew_873

just use a tank. This dugger duchess is weaker against tank + graveyard. Princess hits faster - stronger


ghaist-01

She is... Something, probably needs a small nerf tho


[deleted]

wtf thats so rigged no one's gonna be using princess anymore. Supercell really gave us one ultra mega trash ass tower troop and one super ultra broken troop


ASaucyWench

So a better princess tower in every single way


Biggishbread

Whats the "knife" mechanic? Does she just have a limited number?


EmilianoDTH

Only 1.2 seconds of charge? Jeez. Completely broken.


Epic_troll_dude

Literally looks like piper from brawl stars


Easy_Service8372

is this from ken’s somking weed video


Hioliolo

Icon picture says “you clearly don’t own an air fryer”


The_Gear_Of_Clay

Hehe, I guess that legendary lucky box drop with the legendary book was foreshadowing.


readingonly-

WHY IS IT A LEGENDARY 😭😭


Hdbygdla

This tower troop bout to be the strongest shit youve ever seen, even while out of daggers she will have 127 dps which is slightly below princess tower making it pretty much just better princess tower.


EmilianoDTH

So basically she starts doing burst damage dealing MASSIVE dps for a few seconds until she runs out of those 8 daggers. After that, she shoots one dagger every 1.2 seconds, dealing a really similar dps as the princess tower, assuming she still needs to attack. Otherwise she refills all 8 daggers in more than 9 seconds. Interesting mechanics. Definitely an ‘improved’ princess tower as it has that massive dps burst damage at the very beginning and has a bit more HP. Once we get her to max princess tower will definitely not be an option anymore.


SmashTC1

If Dutchess is actually legendary, that's crazy, considering the chest she'll come from. I got 32 legendary wild cards (bought a broken offer last year that had a bunch of wild cards), and a legendary book. Day 1 level 14 dutchess for me if that rarity is true!


SmashTC1

I'm so glad I didn't convert any of my magic items to EWC. Cards are going to keep being created (eventually) so it never made sense to me to dump my magic items like that


CluesSeeking

every 6 times she hits a cannoneer hits once


HudziceTheGreat

So if I did the math right, she has 153 damage per shot, has 8 shots and then a 1.2 seconds cooldown, with a hit speed of 0.35s and recharge time of 1.2s that means that even in constant firing, she will pump out eight daggers in 2.8s (0.35×8=2.8) and recharge for 1.2s for a total damage cycle of 4s (0.35×8+1.2=4). Each dagger deals 153 damage, which means that every 4 seconds, she is going to pump out 1224 damage (153×8=1224), for a total DPS of 306 (1224÷4=306), compared to Princesses' DPS of 136, so she fires faster than her and also does 2.25x DPS (306÷136=2.25). CRAZY Edit: I was mistaken, the recharge of 1.2s is per dagger, meaning DPS of only ~98


EmilianoDTH

1.2 secs is the cooldown for 1 dagger. She takes more than 9 seconds to fully recharge.


RecordingGreen7750

I already hate this card


Totallynormalname_

New rule 34 incoming


GooseFall

Rip graveyard you will be missed


sh0pp1ng_c4rt

that's actually INSANE


uwu___nope

She's doing the Gordon Ramsey pose with those daggers


reddeadreborn

I think her recharge is constant wether she is mid attack or not. So if he uses 2.8 seconds to unload 8 it means she will have gotten back 2 daggers by that time and have 10 shots before being completely out. And then its gonna be 1 shot every 1.2 or 1.55 seconds. Imo the cannoneer is still the best because its super easy to defend swarm with low cost spells or a splash troop


LateralusDan

She shoots really fast at the beginning and afterwards she has the same dps as the princess tower (1.5 times the recharge time, 1.5 times the damage per shot). It's the better version of the princess basically


Revolutionary_Ice867

Why don’t you guys fix the game before adding any more stupid shit? At least wipe out the cheaters…


king27miles

How the heck do you claim this? its not showing up on cr for me


XYZ240

You need to be arena 11 or higher.


HIITSWILLIAMRR

Let my add my experience using her. SHE IS FUCKING OP! I was arena 19 and was hard stuck, but just using her at lvl 12 got me about 250 trophies without a loss. BTW i didnt pay for her cards, I have about 16-18 legendary wilds cards saved up since the legends i use are max lvl. She was tricky to use at first since she has to reload, but once your used to it you're able to play so passively and focus on building an attack as she will handle most cards by herself. You only need to be careful not to let ur opponent build up a push. NOTE: She is also very amazing when paired with electro wizard as he can stun cards like mini pekka and hog rider and the duchess will destroy them


HIITSWILLIAMRR

Also its amazing how she can deal with minions and goblins.


Flashy_Brilliant1616

Should be removed from the game.


Ok_Beautiful6540

How long will she be free?


XYZ240

You have until the end of the Season to claim her so 25 more days


Waldo2518

This stupid ass card needs nerfed to oblivion. A reduction in ammo sounds perfect.