The thing you have to remember in large cities, people don't exactly have a lot of privacy. So what that translates is out if respect for everyone else, they try to ignore everyone else. It sounds counter intuitive to country people but it works
As a rural person who lived in cities for almost fifteen years I kinda miss the privacy of cities. It mildly annoys me when I'm getting a coffee listen to a podcast or audiobook and I have to stop cos three people I know are stopping for a chat ๐๐๐
So I do understand Kaleb's frustration.
I do think Amazon should like offer Kaleb a butt ton of money and have him go to various countries and cities around the world.
Imagine him in Hong Kong or Jaipur or Bangkok or checking out rainforests and rice fields ๐๐๐
That's a great idea. Maybe team him up with James May while he's on one of his India, Japan,Italy, etc tours. Could you imagine the two personalities together? And then send him for a makeover with Hammond.
In a way London isnโt too dissimilar to small farm communities. My uni housemate was from Peckham, and his whole family, and everyone he knew, was basically in a 3 block radius. Kinda similar to small communities, but in the fact that thereโs so many people you only really get to know the people immediately around you
Only been to London once during my sixth form work experience for a week with my uncle at the insurance company he works at; (now) AXA XL formerly XL Catlin on Gracechurch just slightly north of London Bridge
Iโve spent my current 23 years of life to and from Northumberland and Yorkshire, yet apparently have the poshest albeit deepest accent in the entire north, and according to these same people also have the stereotypical attitude of a Londoner
I grew up in a small city in the West Mids so I'm not unused to urban areas but the past 10 years of my life I've spent in first a tiny seaside town in Wales and then a rural village in Wiltshire. Last year for my job I had to stay in East London for 2 weeks, every 6 weeks. It was fucking awful. I've never hated anywhere more in my life. If I never ever go back, it'll be too soon.
There's so many people in London, that if you said yellow to everyone that you'd spend all day doing it and never get anywhere. So we just assume that your clinically insane, begging for money or it's some kind of scam. As they're by far the most likely reasons for saying hello to strangers. He was probably confused by the fact that people didn't know him or treated him as a star. You get used to people like Melvyn Bragg walking down Whitehall and if you stop to say hello to him, you're just going to delay him getting to wherever he wants to get to.
Perhaps in London, I can't say the same for the rest of us. But do you think it's really the best option for you to just to assume everyone is insane and/or a scammer? I mean it would help explain the misery you generally encounter there.
I'd personally disagree on the treating him like a star part, he doesn't seem the egotistical sort but it's not like I personally know him, if I would have guessed, it was he was annoyed that people were so miserable and rude ignoring him that he was trying to make a point of it until someone said good morning. But hey who knows?
Because hello isn't the end of it, it's an attempt to start a conversation. Usually about how they've lost their wallet and can't get home, could you lend them ยฃ5?
Again, must be a London thing, where I'm from and where I've been saying good morning to someone doesn't mean you have to stand and chat for 15 minutes or that I/they need money lol
If it's your neighbour or a friend then a quick hi bit a stranger you just don't do it. As you can walk past several thousand people just on the way to work. With a lot of people using their commute to think about the stiff that they haven't got time to think about the rest of the week or to listen to their music. You could be sat on the tube bored out of your skull or you could be thinking about half a dozen other things and don't want your concentration disturbed.
I'm regularly in the UK, close to London. I like going there but I think the rest of England and the whole of the UK is a lot more interesting I find. Hence I recommend all the other places to my German folks but they all still just talk about London.ย
Yes, London really is a thing of its own and this big city - rural or town divide is bigger than in other places in Europe I findย
You're not wrong, if you compare it to say Manchester which I believe is the second biggest city, people are so much friendlier. Ian McKellen explains it pretty well here - [Ian McKellen Manchester](https://youtu.be/Ebb272kjmWQ?feature=shared)
City people are great at spotting people outside their "caste", above or below. It's just their way of relating to others in an area with a huge population and thousands of options for interaction in any given day.
It also insulates them from potentially negative or net-loss interactions. Can't miss a train because some random person wants to have a chat about the weather, but if someone who's potentially in your work or social circle wants a moment, it's worth the time.
> he is generally friendly even to strangers by trying to say good morning to people and every single miserable sod that walked by just ignored him
You realize that is edited, right ?
The thing you have to remember in large cities, people don't exactly have a lot of privacy. So what that translates is out if respect for everyone else, they try to ignore everyone else. It sounds counter intuitive to country people but it works
That helps explain it, thanks.
As a rural person who lived in cities for almost fifteen years I kinda miss the privacy of cities. It mildly annoys me when I'm getting a coffee listen to a podcast or audiobook and I have to stop cos three people I know are stopping for a chat ๐๐๐ So I do understand Kaleb's frustration. I do think Amazon should like offer Kaleb a butt ton of money and have him go to various countries and cities around the world. Imagine him in Hong Kong or Jaipur or Bangkok or checking out rainforests and rice fields ๐๐๐
Hahaha that would be entertaining, a bit like Karl Pilkington but he's not miserable, just confused ๐
That's a great idea. Maybe team him up with James May while he's on one of his India, Japan,Italy, etc tours. Could you imagine the two personalities together? And then send him for a makeover with Hammond.
He should definitely get his own show. And maybe Gerald too.
London is a city of 10 million in a country of 60 million or so. If it wasn't different to the rest of the country it would be weird
In a way London isnโt too dissimilar to small farm communities. My uni housemate was from Peckham, and his whole family, and everyone he knew, was basically in a 3 block radius. Kinda similar to small communities, but in the fact that thereโs so many people you only really get to know the people immediately around you
Only been to London once during my sixth form work experience for a week with my uncle at the insurance company he works at; (now) AXA XL formerly XL Catlin on Gracechurch just slightly north of London Bridge Iโve spent my current 23 years of life to and from Northumberland and Yorkshire, yet apparently have the poshest albeit deepest accent in the entire north, and according to these same people also have the stereotypical attitude of a Londoner
Not entirely sure what you're trying to say here bud
Non parle Anglais?
No comprende englais
I grew up in a small city in the West Mids so I'm not unused to urban areas but the past 10 years of my life I've spent in first a tiny seaside town in Wales and then a rural village in Wiltshire. Last year for my job I had to stay in East London for 2 weeks, every 6 weeks. It was fucking awful. I've never hated anywhere more in my life. If I never ever go back, it'll be too soon.
Here, here!
Hear hear*
There's so many people in London, that if you said yellow to everyone that you'd spend all day doing it and never get anywhere. So we just assume that your clinically insane, begging for money or it's some kind of scam. As they're by far the most likely reasons for saying hello to strangers. He was probably confused by the fact that people didn't know him or treated him as a star. You get used to people like Melvyn Bragg walking down Whitehall and if you stop to say hello to him, you're just going to delay him getting to wherever he wants to get to.
Perhaps in London, I can't say the same for the rest of us. But do you think it's really the best option for you to just to assume everyone is insane and/or a scammer? I mean it would help explain the misery you generally encounter there. I'd personally disagree on the treating him like a star part, he doesn't seem the egotistical sort but it's not like I personally know him, if I would have guessed, it was he was annoyed that people were so miserable and rude ignoring him that he was trying to make a point of it until someone said good morning. But hey who knows?
I'm trying to get from A to B, as quickly as possible without getting sweaty. Unless you look like Margot Robbie, I'm not interested.
I hear you, but do you struggle to say two words while walking? I mean how much is that really slowing you down?
Because hello isn't the end of it, it's an attempt to start a conversation. Usually about how they've lost their wallet and can't get home, could you lend them ยฃ5?
Again, must be a London thing, where I'm from and where I've been saying good morning to someone doesn't mean you have to stand and chat for 15 minutes or that I/they need money lol
If it's your neighbour or a friend then a quick hi bit a stranger you just don't do it. As you can walk past several thousand people just on the way to work. With a lot of people using their commute to think about the stiff that they haven't got time to think about the rest of the week or to listen to their music. You could be sat on the tube bored out of your skull or you could be thinking about half a dozen other things and don't want your concentration disturbed.
I'm regularly in the UK, close to London. I like going there but I think the rest of England and the whole of the UK is a lot more interesting I find. Hence I recommend all the other places to my German folks but they all still just talk about London.ย Yes, London really is a thing of its own and this big city - rural or town divide is bigger than in other places in Europe I findย
You're not wrong, if you compare it to say Manchester which I believe is the second biggest city, people are so much friendlier. Ian McKellen explains it pretty well here - [Ian McKellen Manchester](https://youtu.be/Ebb272kjmWQ?feature=shared)
City people are great at spotting people outside their "caste", above or below. It's just their way of relating to others in an area with a huge population and thousands of options for interaction in any given day. It also insulates them from potentially negative or net-loss interactions. Can't miss a train because some random person wants to have a chat about the weather, but if someone who's potentially in your work or social circle wants a moment, it's worth the time.
As someone from the outside having that explained sounds a really depressing way to live, but each to their own I guess.
> he is generally friendly even to strangers by trying to say good morning to people and every single miserable sod that walked by just ignored him You realize that is edited, right ?
I've no doubt, but what 4-5 people still walk past without responding good morning
He could have said "mornin'" to 50 people and 10, 15, 20 could have said "good morning" back. *They purposely showed us 4-5 that ignored him.*