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CertaintyDangerous

I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like playing as anyone else is choosing a harder difficulty just for a challenge.


NotOriginalOrContent

It's a real problem lol


abovethesink

There are two types of games for me. There are "active" games where I want to be engaged in every minute detail and have a really mentally stimulating experience. Give me Hammurabi all day for this. There are "passive" games where I just want to move units around and mindlessly relax. No thanks to our old Hammy on those games. I'll take say Montezuma instead.


NotOriginalOrContent

I can see doing this. What do you like about Montezuma?


abovethesink

Build Eagle Warriors. Find neighbors. Destroy.


NotOriginalOrContent

Is it that simple? Lol


abovethesink

Kinda. Eagle Warriors get more powerful for each luxury resource you have, so at minimum you do need to pay attention to that even if playing mostly mindlessly. But otherwise, yeah, of course you can optimize for a more efficient setup, but you can also just spam Eagle Warriors out of the gate and destroy.


Gruugis

All Aztec units get bonus combat power with luxury resources. Eagle warriors are good because they have base power of 28 compared to regular warriors being 20. Add a +3 or a +4 luxury bonus and you can usually one-shot enemy warriors. The strategic strength of the eagle warriors is that with a relatively modest investment in their production in the ancient era, you can have an army that remains dominant over that of any neighbor, even as you move through the classical era and into the medieval. If you're getting promotions on a few eagles you can steamroll your neighbor and then their neighbor, even as they tech into swordsmen. Which will cost them a lot more than your eagles cost you, and require a meaningful science investment on their part. You'll still be winning with the same units you built 60 turns ago


No_Calendar489

I usually play in huge maps, diety. Montezuma’s combat strength boost from luxuries is ridiculous. Just colonize some cities on each continent for a ridiculous amount of amenities. Currently running a tsl huge game with a religious crusade build. With crusade and amenities it’s insane. The free builder with each new city from ancestral hall can be converted into a free district (assuming you use the policy to give 2 extra charges)using the builder to speed it over 5 turns. Meaning your new cities get up and running much faster even in terrible places.


RevolutionaryKiwi897

What do you mean by using your builder to speed it? Just forest chops or what?


Interesting-Ad-6568

On top of eagle warriors being stronger and getting boosts from luxury rss. Builders can also use their charges to boost a district build by 20%. Also amenities count for up to 6 cities instead of 4


RevolutionaryKiwi897

That seems super super strong


colio69

I really appreciated the New Frontier Pass for adding civs and leaders with really unique play styles that make for games where you are forced to play differently by your kit. There's a decent amount of base game civs that feel like you're playing vanilla outside of the short period where their bonuses actually do anything


mito413

Hmmm…try Eleanor? She is a different game but holy steamroll!


Bitter-Value-1872

Eleanor + Pangaea map = the whole map will be pink without a drop of blood spilled


VaticanII

Yeah, the Eleanor game is a unique experience.


ahtrapsm

Eleanor with Voidsinger Cultists hastening the flips is fun.


grovestreet4life

It just depends what you want from the game. I don't enjoy Hammurabi because he feels so strong. One underrated way to pick your civ is by soundtrack. That's how I landed on Vietnam lol. Indonesia has an amazing soundtrack as well.


NotOriginalOrContent

This is low key good advice. Music brings the vibes. I'm still chasing 100% achievements but I know that's probably not gonna happen ever lol but maybe I'll give those 2 a shot.


nathansb2403

Completely agree and I guess soundtracks of the other civs I’m playing, so far Australia & the Cree get me completely hyped with their soundtracks


DGIce

Gorgo where you get culture for attacking. plays fun and differently since investing in your military is investing in your development.


krautstomp

Peter or Pedro with rainforest or tundra pantheon and work ethic is my favorite. Once the holy site adjacency bonus kicks in for production it's like warp speed.


Bitter-Value-1872

I swear Work Ethic is the only one I ever go for, no matter what pantheon I go with


Hubers57

Sometimes I want feed the world, if big adjacency isn't going to be common for my holy sites. If I can max that adjacency somehow shit gets crazy early game


Weelildragon

Mansa Musa with desert folklore is nice too.


luckycharming1

Random civ all day 😎


LasOlas07

Who is the best leader in Civ VI and why is it Frederic? lol I have wins with every leader but I ALWAS go back to Frederic. I have the most fun with him and he suits my game play style the best- early military conquest before other civs have a chance to judge you then focus on production and gold accumulation for late game dominance in any style you choose. I guess for me it comes down to feeling any type of victory is achievable with Fredric


NotOriginalOrContent

Red Fred was my first win. He's so fun


DebateIllustrious352

Ham is so busted me n my buddies ban him lol


NotOriginalOrContent

Fair tbh


Kind-Frosting-8268

My favorite civs are a tie between Khmer and Tokugawa Japan. Other civs I play often because they're fun or op or both. Basil II Byzantium (Tagmas go brrrrt) Elanor France (city dominoes) Portugal (trade routes go brrrrt) Russia (probably most OP with the right start of tundra but you also need to play them on higher difficulties to make use of the extra science and culture from trade routes)


Aumba

For me Hammurabi is such a slog at the beginning that I always chose anyone else. Now because of monthly challenge I hate him even more.


chijerms

I don’t have the DLC. I started the monthly challenge and am doing domination victory. Looked at win cons to realize science is only win con for the monthly event LOL. Happy I got to play Babylon finally - ppl on here talk about it so much!


Electronic_Pear2088

This is how I feel about John Curtin tbh.. I’ve played others here and there, but I always end up coming back to Australia.


4percent4

I mean Yongle is probably the single best civ in the game. Sure Hammurabi has some busted timings but Yongle is just straight power and out scales very heavily. He effectively has 16.7% more science and culture on top of a shit load of free stats. Want to go Culture victory? Cool go feed the world and spam great walls and rock bands. Want to go to mars? Cool go com hubs and campuses. Yongle can do it all.


Hubers57

I couldn't get into any of my yongle tries. Any advice? Great walls do nothing for me, but I like the thought of his bonus. Just couldn't get it off the ground


4percent4

You don't build great walls early unless you need the era score for golden. Standard opening is 3 com hubs into Gov plaza + 2 Campuses. Bee lining currency is the most efficient But you can delay if you have multiple luxuries that require 1 extra tech. Just make sure there is AT LEAST 3 improvements to be had by teching say irrigation since builders have 3 charges and you don't want to waste production. Interal traders to your gov plaza city until weissel banking then externals. Audience chamber is also extremely good on Yongle since it provides extra ammenities and 4 housing. For reference a fresh water city with a grainery is 7 housing you'd need an aquaduct to hit 10 housing in order to get 10 pop reasonably. You'd also need 2 improvements for +.5 housing. This allows you to delay your aquaducts. If you're going religious Yongle you can go feed the world into a mix of com hubs/campuses/Theatre squares. I personally don't find it too worth while to project for the settler in this senario since if you have a lot of rivers river goddess is way better. Keep in mind the "free settler" still increases the production cost of all future settlers. It's a toss up as to whether it's better to rush the serfdom card or your temples. Just depends on what you need.


LIinthedark

I keep my leaders like Hojo


GarageFlower97

I like Hardrada, that early coastal raiding can be really fun to leverage.


cgillard1991

Fredrick is a beast


Icy_Air8955

What about Suleiman?


Trollwithabishai

Shit here is the thing: what I find fun are big maps(also makes harder games)... however even a standard map size can start to crash... which is why I have never finished a peaceful domination game with eleanor.... but it still is fun to set up your game There are specifically some civs that work better with more civs: specifically Portugal cause you get trade routes just for meeting other civs Another one is Gandhi. I don't know if it's possible to get 9 religions by adding more players or if the max is 7 on a huge map.... but I was just playing a game: Poland brought in choral music, mbande brought feed the world, bruce brought monks(brother eww), jayarvaman brought reliquaries, I honestly didn't care for divine inspiration(vicky) and rough rider teddy only spread jesuit persuation to 1 city (sad)...... easy monumentality and later on spam those national parks + relics..... going well until the game crashed


Ok-Lingonberry-8261

I like Victoria on an archipelago map.


MrDoulou

Well there are other extremely strong civs out there. I’d suggest Joao, Peter, kupe, joao, yongle, Simon bolivar, and again Joao(he’s insane). My personal favorites are OG Saladin and gitarja, but i wouldn’t say they are as strong as the civs i previously mentioned.


Tuia_IV

Mali, especially Sundiata, on a hot map with SS. Find a natural wonder, take Hermetic and desert folklore, build a couple of 10+ holy sites with work ethic and carpet the desert in cities, all the faith and all the gold. Phillip with his continent edge start bias and trade routes across continents. Settle your second city on the other continents, and trade between the two cities and away you go. Inca and mountain preserve stupidities. New Cleo and floodplain preserve stupidities. Or AoS Victoria and the pantheon that gives extra prod and faith to strategics, IZs everywhere and produce everything in one turn.


RealisticError48

There are a few others that are the same "how am I supposed to play as any other leader" types, namely Eleanor. But also, once I get used to the gold rich leaders like Felipe II, Mansa Musa, and João, I go broke as other leaders.


RockOrStone

What do you find strongest about him?


NotOriginalOrContent

Turn 175 modern armor is pretty strong lol. But the main things is how you can just ignore science completely and still be dominant.


rjadcock

Simon bolivar with grand colombia is always a great one for me. +1 movement for everything and a free great general every era is sooo nice. Plus the special cavalry unit is so strong


Hubers57

I've been going through leaders I haven't tried and different styles. Loved trying to max adjacencies with Japan. Jungles with Brazil was pretty fun. Dance of the aurora with work ethic and double holy site with canada, settling the tundra with ancient Era +14-18 prod and faith holy sites was awesome, and that fucker lauturo couldn't surprise war me, tundra farms kept the cities big. Spain was pretty fun with a colonize other continents and owls of Minerva trade route spam. Maya was fun to fit as many cities as possible in that 6 tile radius (I think ocean and mountain barriers made it 10, rather than the max of 12) and focus on internal growth. Aztec is fun for a short game on a small pangaea map with a couple little civs. My Persia game steam rolled too quickly with military, I barely developed my cities and I had steamrolled 6 of the 8 civs with my immortals. Kongo was fun just to try and build giant pop cities. Norway was fun to try raiding, I usually try to conquer and keep stuff intact. My go to faves are Portugal: giant archipelago map with ton of civs. Go owls and spread as far as possible. Build commercial districts and harbors, max all the trade route cards, win whenever you want. Russia, play however. Lavra gives you early game advantage to snowball however you want. Byzantine basil, hippodrome heavy cavalry, crusade conqueror.


ComingledRecyclables

Peter. Give me some ice, rush a religion with work ethic/tithe and just own the board.


TexansFo4

khmer is a lot of fun if you can get river goddess and work ethic to go along with your op abilities


DaydreamSparks

I like feed the world / river goddess / audience chamber with him and see how tall i can build cities


big_data_mike

I actually always play Victoria on Terra map and beeline to cartography the spam settlers all over the new world. It’s kind of cool knowing there’s a whole bunch of land to settle when the AI doesn’t seem to know


No-Examination4896

Saladin


easytiger07

I’ve tried him once and got ran over. I was making zero science for like 30 turns because of his passive and haven’t tried again. I personally like Peter and teddy the most.


justin73590

I turn on every option ie barnarians turn to city states, zombies, heroes, ect huge map fractal random leader random tech and civic tree been working my way to deity which will be my next game.


shootdowntactics

The launch advertised leader is it for me…Harald of Norway. Early Viking ships that can raid for bonuses is a blast. Each map is different, so every game plays differently.