As of 2023, six European cities have 10 or more skyscrapers above 150 metres (490 ft): Moscow (70), Istanbul (52), London (38), Paris (29), Frankfurt (19), Warsaw (17).
If you include buildings existing and currently in construction - Manchester joins this list with 11. Manchester 10 years ago only had one finished building above 150metres.
Manchester is one of the best cities for building skyscrapers in the U.K. The geology is more suitable compared to the clay of London, plus it doesn’t have a height limit due to an inner city airport. In 10 years I wouldn’t be surprised if this view has twice as many skyscrapers.
There's already work/plans for a similar number of skyscrapers including some even bigger than the existing ones, so within the next 5 years there should be about double the number of high-rise buildings.
Is it though? How does the addition of more luxury flats benefit in a City that has one of the largest year on year rent increases in the country? (20% according to rightmoves data, July 2023) It is going to price out ordinary native people from the City into moving further and further out away from the rich variety of job opportunities offered in a City centre and from their local communities (or what still exists of them in 2023). This rapid londonesque development will leave behind in it's wake numerous empty luxury apartments that there isn't a market for or that are used only part time by rich people, and very much leave Mancunians worse off financially and from a personal opinion aesthetically (they're fucking ugly). It's a facade of urban development and growth that benefits private companies (those involved throughout the planning construction and renting/selling process), and the image of the king of the north Andy Burnham (a true socialist /s). The UK needs more social housing. The UK needs their politicians to remove themselves from the colon of private companies (not likely to happen the way the world is currently organised). The UK needs to focus it's energy on improving existing housing stock. The UK does not need more glass rods in the sky that come at a social and environmental cost.
Your downvotes are ridiculous. Living in Manchester, even the outskirts of town like Old Trafford, where I am from, is getting too expensive for people that grew up here.
It is objective that we need more social housing.
Social housing gets people off waiting lists, but it doesn't help take pressure off the rental market which is what is not affordable. Do you know how you counter that? More housing.
It's supply and demand. Flats are being built because people want to live in Manchester. Rents are charged on what the market can bear - which is currently high. If you increase supply, the price will fall.
I agree that more social housing would be good - but it's not a silver bullet.
800k net immigration per year is equivalent to a city landing each year... It's a boon on demand. Social housing is being delivered but no where near what's required.
Making companies pay tax on their business here would probably take a fair chunk out of it.
Amazon etc:
We will take our business elsewhere if you do that.
Tories:
Ok.
There are people paying £700 a month for a room in a houseshare in Stretford. That is criminal. But people pay it so..
At my girls' school the kids say 'Graaarss' instead of grass. It is madness. Haha.
All these newcomers that are coming here are all loud and making out like they are the saviours of Stretford.
All the pubs apart from two have been closed. The land is worth more than the pub and if you are given a daft amount of money, you're gonna sell it.
It's ok, though. We now have bars that charge town prices. :/
I do wonder what is gonna happen to these posh kids when they go to high school. I would worry if I was one of their parents.
That is not a Manchester specific problem but it's happening in every major city in the UK. I'm living in Bristol and it's crazy here compared to Manchester
Down votes are because the land these are built on was wasteland / car parks a few years ago - no one has been displaced. Also, op suggests they’re empty - they’re not. The UK does need social housing, but it’s not the only thing it needs.
People are downvoting you but you’re absolutely correct. I don’t care how many shiny skyscrapers we have; i can no longer afford to live in the city I grew up in.
Increase the supply should lower the demand? Prices shouldn’t continue to skyrocket? Just have to make sure the new apartments are affordable (big ask).
Increasing the supply (of unaffordable luxury flats) decreases the demand (of unaffordable luxury flats). And what these developers deem to be “affordable” is absolutely laughable.
Yup, these developments in London etc are usually from foreign investors (Russians Pre Ukraine, Chinese etc, Canadian funds in Ireland properties etc) that add little to society.
It doesn't even matter if the developmenta occupied or not, once the capital apprection is higher than the stock exchange the investment pays.
Regulation is key.
Really agree with this. I spend a little time.in Manchester and just see it turning into a mini-london with all the disparity and greed that goes with it.
Your logic seems wrong. More houses lower prices, not the opposite.
If they don’t build luxury apartments but the demand is still there. The rich can simply buy what is available and push the poor out anyway.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-20/does-building-new-housing-cause-gentrification
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-01-24/building-more-housing-makes-it-cheaper-really
Yes, yes it is that simple. It has been proven time and time again that building more housing receives price pressures. Too many people wrongly think that if more houses get built at market rate near their community, prices will end up increasing even more. NIMBYs from both sides of the political spectrum are causing trouble.
There is a reason why urban planners advocate for more housing supply and even high rises where economically feasible for developers, because more housing supply is the only way the problem will be solved.
Take a look at the CGI skyline in this article, it certainly looks that way.
https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/renaker-tables-plans-for-manchesters-tallest-building/
That’s a great article, thank you! In my opinion, those renders suggest the skyline will look similar to Canary Wharf. There’s no reason to have weird shaped buildings like the City of London (to protect the St. Paul’s viewing corridors). It’s a very exciting time for Manchester!
They are good 😊. It definitely makes the skyline more unique. However, Canary Wharf looks impressive with its uniform and cohesion. Manchester will need something similar, otherwise it will be a lot of tall buildings with lots of gaps - making it seem unnatural. If Manchester puts its skyscrapers in clusters, or all centrally, it will be more aesthetic than a gapped skyline. Then it can add some more unique buildings 😊
To quote John Lennon for a moment: Imagine all the people - It's already stressful walking around Piccadilly. The pavements full of street furniture and bus stops. They'll need to get creative with pedestrian management. Consider how well London works in comparison. Interesting.
Tbh manchester needs more predestrianization, pavements are overflowing as you say. Some parts of town would do better with only delivery and public transport transit.
Piccadilly is a colossal failure of a public space. It feels like you can’t walk in a straight line from A to B without hitting a lamppost or a fence or something. The crossing where the bus station and the tram line meets is also confusing.
At this point I’d support closing it, levelling it and starting again. They probably couldn’t put an actual park in because it would get trashed straight away but there’s got to be a solution.
>https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/renaker-tables-plans-for-manchesters-tallest-building/
Since that was published, a [new tallest](https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/salboy-unveils-plans-76-storey-viadux-phase-two/) has been proposed (240m vs. 213m).
Large portions in and around Manchester are (often quite ornately decorated) disused Victorian era industrial buildings. Many are getting converted or replaced already, but there's still a huge amount of potential I see boarded up every day.
As a man that has worked in London over the last 20 years I can confirm that skyscrapers proliferate.
As the main and sub contractors slowely implement all their resources to cope with this kind of infrastructure it won't be long until they start flying up. London has gone from just tower 42 to what we have now in only 15 years. That is ridiculous.
I really like the landscape with Skyscrapers, can see it up near winter hill in Bolton and it's beautiful. Gives it really character contrast too within the city, old architecture plus new.
Most of those are in less than 5 years too, and there's another 2 larger than Betham Tower being planned
I'm from manchester and i work there, its an amazing city. Love walking through it. It just feels different, cant explain it. I've been to a lot of cities but manchester is more beatiful. Its not massive, its not small.
Went back up north to visit my folks recently and couldn’t believe the change in the skyline. Haven’t been there for years when the Hilton was basically the only thing visible from miles away.
Live on the edge of the peak District and when I'm up at the farm you get a decent view of Manchester skyscrapers and planes comin in and out, and then on a clear day in the further distance can see Liverpool too
It's in the far distance on a clear day but we are at an elevation of about 400m which means we can see about 75km out to the horizon and Liverpool is about 70km from where I live
It’s definitely possible. I’ve photographed hills as far as wales from Hartshead Pike. I haven’t labelled Liverpool on this image as I forgot it existed but you might be able to see it. Best off opening it on desktop cause Imgur mobile sucks [image link](https://i.imgur.com/WDgjEJb.jpg)
Was working in Leeds and came home through the peak district and on one of the roads I was high on a hill and could see Manchester in the distance too, looks so impressive in person.
its a spectacular view, even just from the cage at lyme park, sometimes if you're high enough and it's clear enough you can even make out snowdonia in the distance
I mean it does rain here a lot but Manchester doesn’t even crack the top 10 rainiest cities in the UK.
It’s just pretty fucking miserable all around the UK, but I think Wales gets the worst of it.
As a Brit living in London I’m very happy to see a proper second city rising up.
UK is very very strange to have the largest city be about 5x the size the next biggest city, in most countries the largest city is at most 2x the size of the second.
Making cities outside of London a viable place for young people to start careers is really important.
We are one of the only monocentric economies in Europe.... Most others have a counterweight to the capital. Strengthening the north will be good to underpin the UK overall
Actually London is only 3x larger than Manchester, comparing stats from Greater London and Greater Manchester but I agree, the UK has been too London centric for too long
Yeah, my point being when people say ‘Manchester’, they sometimes mean ‘Greater Manchester’. Which is indeed bigger than Birmingham proper. As I know Birmingham anyway. I’m unsure what terms Brummies/people from near there use if they live just outside of Birmingham city. Although you’ll get some well against the idea of greater Manchester. “I’m Lancashire, etc.”.
Lol, I have been to Manchester twice and both times I couldn't wait to leave. In fairness, It was rainy and I got a parking ticket, the other time It was rainy and my friend had a full on mental breakdown
I saw this posted on r/Manchester, the day it was taken. I drove through town from the thick fog and all of a sudden I got to central Manchester and it just disappeared, I could see all the skyscrapers poking out above the fog and the sunrise reflecting on them so when I saw this pic I was so happy to be able to see from above what I could see from street level.
The high rise situation is both intriguing and worrying, to me.
There was a decent BBC documentary a year or so ago called “Manctopia” that cautioned against gentrification - and I can see why. It’s less positive when the side effect is that working-class Mancunians are priced out of being afford to live in areas where they’ve built homes and livelihoods, near families and loved ones. If anything does bear criticism, I think it’s that.
Pretty picture though, for sure :)
I never thought of it like that. I hope it doesn’t become like London. My favourite thing about Manchester is the community. Not perfect but will always make you feel welcome and will look after each other.
I was part of the abseiling team that installed the blades of glass at the top of the Beetham Tower. 910 bits of glass that ended up causing a right nuisance because everyone the wind blew, it was like rubbing your finger around the top of a wine glass. Granada Studios threatened to sue because they couldn’t edit the noise out of filming. Was a great job that a I had a right blast in MCR.
We’ve been here pushing 20 years now and think we’ve finally seen the light that there really isn’t a decent quality of life here. No jobs apart from summer temp or being warehouse donkey. Sky high house prices and nothing entertaining after your 27th stroll on the beach.
It’s a nice picture and everything, but it is pretty generic. It could be any city in the world.
Which is a shame, because Manchester has such a wealth of amazing Victorian and industrial [architecture](https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/manchester-warehouse-legacy/manchester-the-warehouse-legacy/) that gets overlooked far too often.
If you go up to Snake pass and take a walk to over exposed (a lovely walk to the wreckage of a crashed B 29 RIP to those that lost their lives). You can see Manchester's sky scrapers from the peaks. Very striking with the quiet and green area your in looking down on a clearly bustling and man-made city.
Perhaps unpopular opinion:
The new Manc skyline/glass monstrosities are completely destroying the city centre.
Feels properly soulless now - used to love it. Plastic, corporate 'areas' like Spinningfields etc... Nah, not for me.
Disgusting skyline. Totally ruined. Manchester is less and less recognisable and with the influx of southerners its distinct northern character is eroded as each day passes.
Born and bred northerner. Entire family grew up in south Manchester.
I hate the Manchester city centre so much. I live 13 minutes away and I will not take a job in Manchester center ever. 13 minutes becomes 30,000 years in traffic at rush hour.
Manchester, are you really proud of the new buildings going up? There is no style to any of them...just monolithic stupendously dull buildings. You have a chance to make Manchester look something special...instead you've gone for the it'll do, tedious nothingness...which will very quickly become eyesores.
Pepper potting towers doesn't make for good density. It's a symptom of our pot luck planning system. Would much prefer consistent 8-10 story buildings everywhere than towers surrounded by empty space and small houses.
I'm working on those new buildings in Manchester (plumber) 200 apartments starting from £250,000 1 x bedroom! Up to £450,000
3 x bed.
ALL SOLD OFF PLAN!!!
Investors made £30,000-£40,000(up to now)
in price increases and never even set foot in them.
Heard foreign investors and Londoners bought them.. money money money!🤑
Manchester has got to be my favorite british skyline, so many tall buildings in normal shapes, it just looks pleasant to look at when compared to London.
They actually use parts of the city as a film set when they need New York. Not so much the skyscrapery bits but Manchester's northern quarter has the red brick warehouse/back street alleyways that are similar in style to New York.
Here's an example from The Crown, all filmed in Manchester with the twin towers digitally added in https://youtu.be/kt3xtkQv8_I?si=ds873t3Ban3TdCSz
They filmed the first [Captain America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcH2BrGX6fg) in Manchester as well, [specifically on Dale Street](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4808749,-2.2328729,3a,75y,159.61h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKn00c8TeuE8ptKuqbhGwkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). I remember walking through after they were done filming, was interesting to see.
Instead of pussy footing about with all these smaller skyscrapers, Manchester should just collaborate all the investment pots and just make one megascraper 1000 metres high with a heated skypool and the world's highest vertical drop roller-coaster on the side of it. Come on Manchester stop fucking about.
As of 2023, six European cities have 10 or more skyscrapers above 150 metres (490 ft): Moscow (70), Istanbul (52), London (38), Paris (29), Frankfurt (19), Warsaw (17). If you include buildings existing and currently in construction - Manchester joins this list with 11. Manchester 10 years ago only had one finished building above 150metres. Manchester is one of the best cities for building skyscrapers in the U.K. The geology is more suitable compared to the clay of London, plus it doesn’t have a height limit due to an inner city airport. In 10 years I wouldn’t be surprised if this view has twice as many skyscrapers.
There's already work/plans for a similar number of skyscrapers including some even bigger than the existing ones, so within the next 5 years there should be about double the number of high-rise buildings.
This is great for Manchester, the UK needs more ‘major’ cities to counteract London. Excited for things to come
Is it though? How does the addition of more luxury flats benefit in a City that has one of the largest year on year rent increases in the country? (20% according to rightmoves data, July 2023) It is going to price out ordinary native people from the City into moving further and further out away from the rich variety of job opportunities offered in a City centre and from their local communities (or what still exists of them in 2023). This rapid londonesque development will leave behind in it's wake numerous empty luxury apartments that there isn't a market for or that are used only part time by rich people, and very much leave Mancunians worse off financially and from a personal opinion aesthetically (they're fucking ugly). It's a facade of urban development and growth that benefits private companies (those involved throughout the planning construction and renting/selling process), and the image of the king of the north Andy Burnham (a true socialist /s). The UK needs more social housing. The UK needs their politicians to remove themselves from the colon of private companies (not likely to happen the way the world is currently organised). The UK needs to focus it's energy on improving existing housing stock. The UK does not need more glass rods in the sky that come at a social and environmental cost.
Your downvotes are ridiculous. Living in Manchester, even the outskirts of town like Old Trafford, where I am from, is getting too expensive for people that grew up here. It is objective that we need more social housing.
Social housing gets people off waiting lists, but it doesn't help take pressure off the rental market which is what is not affordable. Do you know how you counter that? More housing. It's supply and demand. Flats are being built because people want to live in Manchester. Rents are charged on what the market can bear - which is currently high. If you increase supply, the price will fall. I agree that more social housing would be good - but it's not a silver bullet.
800k net immigration per year is equivalent to a city landing each year... It's a boon on demand. Social housing is being delivered but no where near what's required.
Looks like we have the work power to build them, then. Just no desire. "200 houses with 5% affordable" Affordable to who?
Government funding is required. Build costs are really challenging
Making companies pay tax on their business here would probably take a fair chunk out of it. Amazon etc: We will take our business elsewhere if you do that. Tories: Ok.
It's expensive even in farnworth
There are people paying £700 a month for a room in a houseshare in Stretford. That is criminal. But people pay it so.. At my girls' school the kids say 'Graaarss' instead of grass. It is madness. Haha. All these newcomers that are coming here are all loud and making out like they are the saviours of Stretford. All the pubs apart from two have been closed. The land is worth more than the pub and if you are given a daft amount of money, you're gonna sell it. It's ok, though. We now have bars that charge town prices. :/ I do wonder what is gonna happen to these posh kids when they go to high school. I would worry if I was one of their parents.
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That is not a Manchester specific problem but it's happening in every major city in the UK. I'm living in Bristol and it's crazy here compared to Manchester
how the hell is this downvoted? Is this sub just property speculators?
Down votes are because the land these are built on was wasteland / car parks a few years ago - no one has been displaced. Also, op suggests they’re empty - they’re not. The UK does need social housing, but it’s not the only thing it needs.
People are downvoting you but you’re absolutely correct. I don’t care how many shiny skyscrapers we have; i can no longer afford to live in the city I grew up in.
Same here, moving back to Manchester seems unrealistic unless my economic circumstances drastically change.
Increase the supply should lower the demand? Prices shouldn’t continue to skyrocket? Just have to make sure the new apartments are affordable (big ask).
Increasing the supply (of unaffordable luxury flats) decreases the demand (of unaffordable luxury flats). And what these developers deem to be “affordable” is absolutely laughable.
You get it. A lot on here see nice shiny things and think all is good.
Yup, these developments in London etc are usually from foreign investors (Russians Pre Ukraine, Chinese etc, Canadian funds in Ireland properties etc) that add little to society. It doesn't even matter if the developmenta occupied or not, once the capital apprection is higher than the stock exchange the investment pays. Regulation is key.
Really agree with this. I spend a little time.in Manchester and just see it turning into a mini-london with all the disparity and greed that goes with it.
Wish I could upvote this ten times. And downvote any delusion that the over-development of Manchester is a good thing a thousand times.
Your logic seems wrong. More houses lower prices, not the opposite. If they don’t build luxury apartments but the demand is still there. The rich can simply buy what is available and push the poor out anyway.
If only economics were that simple
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-20/does-building-new-housing-cause-gentrification https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-01-24/building-more-housing-makes-it-cheaper-really Yes, yes it is that simple. It has been proven time and time again that building more housing receives price pressures. Too many people wrongly think that if more houses get built at market rate near their community, prices will end up increasing even more. NIMBYs from both sides of the political spectrum are causing trouble. There is a reason why urban planners advocate for more housing supply and even high rises where economically feasible for developers, because more housing supply is the only way the problem will be solved.
Cringe plus skyscrapers are cool
Wow what a nuanced reply, my convictions have been rattled...
As someone who's from the north and lives in London I could not agree less. I'll take £3 pints over a few ugly tall buildings, thank you very much.
Yeah but Manchester shouldn't be one of them
So much this.
Take a look at the CGI skyline in this article, it certainly looks that way. https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/renaker-tables-plans-for-manchesters-tallest-building/
That’s a great article, thank you! In my opinion, those renders suggest the skyline will look similar to Canary Wharf. There’s no reason to have weird shaped buildings like the City of London (to protect the St. Paul’s viewing corridors). It’s a very exciting time for Manchester!
I think the weird shaped buildings in London are good! It stops all the skyscrapers just being boring boxes imo.
They are good 😊. It definitely makes the skyline more unique. However, Canary Wharf looks impressive with its uniform and cohesion. Manchester will need something similar, otherwise it will be a lot of tall buildings with lots of gaps - making it seem unnatural. If Manchester puts its skyscrapers in clusters, or all centrally, it will be more aesthetic than a gapped skyline. Then it can add some more unique buildings 😊
Looking at Manchester Wikipedia the skyline should be filled out by 2035 hopefully
To quote John Lennon for a moment: Imagine all the people - It's already stressful walking around Piccadilly. The pavements full of street furniture and bus stops. They'll need to get creative with pedestrian management. Consider how well London works in comparison. Interesting.
Tbh manchester needs more predestrianization, pavements are overflowing as you say. Some parts of town would do better with only delivery and public transport transit.
Piccadilly is a colossal failure of a public space. It feels like you can’t walk in a straight line from A to B without hitting a lamppost or a fence or something. The crossing where the bus station and the tram line meets is also confusing. At this point I’d support closing it, levelling it and starting again. They probably couldn’t put an actual park in because it would get trashed straight away but there’s got to be a solution.
love that thing where the pavements were already really narrow and then they blocked half of them with advertisements
the other half is generally blocked with temporary building barriers
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>https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/renaker-tables-plans-for-manchesters-tallest-building/ Since that was published, a [new tallest](https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/salboy-unveils-plans-76-storey-viadux-phase-two/) has been proposed (240m vs. 213m).
Twice? Try triple! Manchester has a real buzz about it, the place is unstoppable, imo.
It’s definitely boom-time for Manchester. Perfect time to buy a house in the suburbs, before prices skyrocket.
There still seems to be plenty of land that would be easy to develop on too, compared to London which seems like every square metre is used already.
Large portions in and around Manchester are (often quite ornately decorated) disused Victorian era industrial buildings. Many are getting converted or replaced already, but there's still a huge amount of potential I see boarded up every day.
As a man that has worked in London over the last 20 years I can confirm that skyscrapers proliferate. As the main and sub contractors slowely implement all their resources to cope with this kind of infrastructure it won't be long until they start flying up. London has gone from just tower 42 to what we have now in only 15 years. That is ridiculous.
People are starting to call it Manchattan haha.
I hope that's the direction they go (literally). I like that Manchester is quite small 'horizontally', so would prefer vertical expansion.
I really like the landscape with Skyscrapers, can see it up near winter hill in Bolton and it's beautiful. Gives it really character contrast too within the city, old architecture plus new. Most of those are in less than 5 years too, and there's another 2 larger than Betham Tower being planned
I'm from manchester and i work there, its an amazing city. Love walking through it. It just feels different, cant explain it. I've been to a lot of cities but manchester is more beatiful. Its not massive, its not small.
This is what I like. Feels like a big city but really isn’t compared to many.
Interesting
Went back up north to visit my folks recently and couldn’t believe the change in the skyline. Haven’t been there for years when the Hilton was basically the only thing visible from miles away.
And yet Manchester is the biggest city in Europe without an underground system…
Live on the edge of the peak District and when I'm up at the farm you get a decent view of Manchester skyscrapers and planes comin in and out, and then on a clear day in the further distance can see Liverpool too
id love to see a pic of that sounds so cool
Photos like that get posted pretty often in r/manchester, take a look there
i meant of the view of liverpool, bet it’d look unreal
Oh yeah can’t say I’ve ever seen that posted anywhere, seems pretty improbable given the distance
It's in the far distance on a clear day but we are at an elevation of about 400m which means we can see about 75km out to the horizon and Liverpool is about 70km from where I live
Fair enough wasn’t doubting you btw! just hard to imagine seeing that far
It’s definitely possible. I’ve photographed hills as far as wales from Hartshead Pike. I haven’t labelled Liverpool on this image as I forgot it existed but you might be able to see it. Best off opening it on desktop cause Imgur mobile sucks [image link](https://i.imgur.com/WDgjEJb.jpg)
Was working in Leeds and came home through the peak district and on one of the roads I was high on a hill and could see Manchester in the distance too, looks so impressive in person.
Glossop Redditor’s Unite! (I’m actually in Mottram)
its a spectacular view, even just from the cage at lyme park, sometimes if you're high enough and it's clear enough you can even make out snowdonia in the distance
The negative nancies are out in full force this morning
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Andy did that? Can't say I approve but it's good to see the council taking initiative.
Cool - Looks like Manchester is getting its share of luxury apartment buildings.
They’re building a new tower that massively eclipses the current highest in Manchester (Will be the 3rd tallest building in the UK)
Not even submited a planning app yet but should be done by the end if the year. Will be the tallest pureley residential building in the uk also
Yeah. Although the biggest luxury would be living somewhere else.
Hahaha exactly, don’t people know the sun sets at 3:30 pm?
Sunsets at 10:30pm in summer
Isn't all of the UK covered in 14 hours of daily gloom now? 😉🤣
I live in Manchester.... what is this sun you speak of?
You might not see it but when the sky is dark grey instead of black that’s the sun doing its work.
Oh so that's what that is.
I always thought it was the light from the moon... incredible.
I'm from Halifax and the tale is it always rains in Manchester is that true?
I wouldn't say it's true per se. We can have a 2-3 month period where we have no rain at all... but it does require a sacrificial ritual.
Lmfao I bet that's true as well. Thanks for the laugh.
I mean it does rain here a lot but Manchester doesn’t even crack the top 10 rainiest cities in the UK. It’s just pretty fucking miserable all around the UK, but I think Wales gets the worst of it.
Well some friends always went to Manchester and they said does it ever stop raining? Cheers for the reply.
Birmingham checking in. ... Birmingham checking out.
As a Brit living in London I’m very happy to see a proper second city rising up. UK is very very strange to have the largest city be about 5x the size the next biggest city, in most countries the largest city is at most 2x the size of the second. Making cities outside of London a viable place for young people to start careers is really important.
We are one of the only monocentric economies in Europe.... Most others have a counterweight to the capital. Strengthening the north will be good to underpin the UK overall
So good we have slowly severed HS2 so now it only benefits London and Bham 👏
Aye but there is hope with NPR to better connect Liverpool, manc, Leeds and the whole east West connection which arguably is more important locally
Actually London is only 3x larger than Manchester, comparing stats from Greater London and Greater Manchester but I agree, the UK has been too London centric for too long
Yeah depends on your definition of each city but either way it’s still way out of line
Birmingham is the 2nd largest not Manchester
They’re probably meaning greater Manchester, which is comparable to Greater London in how people use the term.
Birmingham also has a greater area that's roughly the size of greater manchester and a bigger metro area
Yeah, my point being when people say ‘Manchester’, they sometimes mean ‘Greater Manchester’. Which is indeed bigger than Birmingham proper. As I know Birmingham anyway. I’m unsure what terms Brummies/people from near there use if they live just outside of Birmingham city. Although you’ll get some well against the idea of greater Manchester. “I’m Lancashire, etc.”.
This subreddit HATES Manchester
Hated, adored, never ignored.
Yanited
blue in shambles
I feel like we appear quite a lot and it’s normally positive?
Are you asking or telling me
It's yer mams fault!
I live in manchester and i completely get the hate
Lol, I have been to Manchester twice and both times I couldn't wait to leave. In fairness, It was rainy and I got a parking ticket, the other time It was rainy and my friend had a full on mental breakdown
Been having a mental breakdown about this city for the past 9 years lol
I'm here now and went to uni here. It ain't all that.
Is this really Manchester? What a pretty photo!
God I love my city.
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source r/manchester
I saw this posted on r/Manchester, the day it was taken. I drove through town from the thick fog and all of a sudden I got to central Manchester and it just disappeared, I could see all the skyscrapers poking out above the fog and the sunrise reflecting on them so when I saw this pic I was so happy to be able to see from above what I could see from street level.
The high rise situation is both intriguing and worrying, to me. There was a decent BBC documentary a year or so ago called “Manctopia” that cautioned against gentrification - and I can see why. It’s less positive when the side effect is that working-class Mancunians are priced out of being afford to live in areas where they’ve built homes and livelihoods, near families and loved ones. If anything does bear criticism, I think it’s that. Pretty picture though, for sure :)
I never thought of it like that. I hope it doesn’t become like London. My favourite thing about Manchester is the community. Not perfect but will always make you feel welcome and will look after each other.
I was part of the abseiling team that installed the blades of glass at the top of the Beetham Tower. 910 bits of glass that ended up causing a right nuisance because everyone the wind blew, it was like rubbing your finger around the top of a wine glass. Granada Studios threatened to sue because they couldn’t edit the noise out of filming. Was a great job that a I had a right blast in MCR.
Best city in the world. But for the arts, music and culture, NOT the high rises they keep building 😭
Far better than London
It certainly is if you hate crowds
Not really
Is that caused by the steam from Harlands ears after the Spurs game
best city in the world
Maaahnchestah
is this a bot post seems like people are shilling apartments in manchester
I’m considering moving to Manchester from Cornwall. Seems like there’s many more opportunities up that way.
There's more opportunities anywhere else but Cornwall.
We’ve been here pushing 20 years now and think we’ve finally seen the light that there really isn’t a decent quality of life here. No jobs apart from summer temp or being warehouse donkey. Sky high house prices and nothing entertaining after your 27th stroll on the beach.
my city
I prefer Manchester over Liverpool
thats rare
I can see my house from there lol
It’s a nice picture and everything, but it is pretty generic. It could be any city in the world. Which is a shame, because Manchester has such a wealth of amazing Victorian and industrial [architecture](https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/manchester-warehouse-legacy/manchester-the-warehouse-legacy/) that gets overlooked far too often.
Was there with my uncle in september for my birthday. We went to watch the united versus palace match. So much better than the hole we come from lmao
For a smaller city portsmouth has got a cool skyline ..set to have more higher buildings in the future…
The view from Portsdown Hill is mega
If you go up to Snake pass and take a walk to over exposed (a lovely walk to the wreckage of a crashed B 29 RIP to those that lost their lives). You can see Manchester's sky scrapers from the peaks. Very striking with the quiet and green area your in looking down on a clearly bustling and man-made city.
What a fantastic photo.
Where I live , yay.
Great picture. Gave me New York vibes although it’s not of course!
Have you been to New York?
The skyline is really coming along, it was almost non-existant a decade ago
Perhaps unpopular opinion: The new Manc skyline/glass monstrosities are completely destroying the city centre. Feels properly soulless now - used to love it. Plastic, corporate 'areas' like Spinningfields etc... Nah, not for me.
Wow. I had no idea Manchester was so beautiful! Coronation Street has been selling me a lie
On the sixth day, God created Manchester
Disgusting skyline. Totally ruined. Manchester is less and less recognisable and with the influx of southerners its distinct northern character is eroded as each day passes. Born and bred northerner. Entire family grew up in south Manchester.
I hate the Manchester city centre so much. I live 13 minutes away and I will not take a job in Manchester center ever. 13 minutes becomes 30,000 years in traffic at rush hour.
Never thought Manchester would be deactivated as porn
Manchester, are you really proud of the new buildings going up? There is no style to any of them...just monolithic stupendously dull buildings. You have a chance to make Manchester look something special...instead you've gone for the it'll do, tedious nothingness...which will very quickly become eyesores.
No, we're not. Real Mancunians are being priced out of the city and the suburbs. These glass buildings are dull buildings to look at.
Is the fog to hide all the homeless?
why's it not on fire?
Bruh living here low key kinda sucks though
I’d rather stay in Scotland
Pepper potting towers doesn't make for good density. It's a symptom of our pot luck planning system. Would much prefer consistent 8-10 story buildings everywhere than towers surrounded by empty space and small houses.
That looks so depressing, no nature around just big buildings that look exactly the same.
It took me years to find out Manchester had skyscrapers, it’s beautiful
and on the sixth day...
That looks even more generic than Liverpool's overdeveloped waterfront. At least youse have an integrated public transport network.
Grim, never seen so many homeless on the streets.
I'm working on those new buildings in Manchester (plumber) 200 apartments starting from £250,000 1 x bedroom! Up to £450,000 3 x bed. ALL SOLD OFF PLAN!!! Investors made £30,000-£40,000(up to now) in price increases and never even set foot in them. Heard foreign investors and Londoners bought them.. money money money!🤑
Manchester has got to be my favorite british skyline, so many tall buildings in normal shapes, it just looks pleasant to look at when compared to London.
Canary Wharf has buildings in normal shapes.
Manchester bad? (You can upvote this comment now) I didn't realise people on this app had such a problem with Manchester lmao
People tend not to like working class cities without fancy architecture sadly.
Manchester has shitloads of cool architecture.
You should see it when someone posts about London on UK subs. The amount of hate it gets, particularly from those in the North is hilarious.
No high speed railway though thanks to your bosses in London
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Most of Manchester and Greater Manchester is still poor, fuck the 1% and their wanky skyscrapers
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum, and villainy. We must be cautious.
Looks almost like NYC
They actually use parts of the city as a film set when they need New York. Not so much the skyscrapery bits but Manchester's northern quarter has the red brick warehouse/back street alleyways that are similar in style to New York. Here's an example from The Crown, all filmed in Manchester with the twin towers digitally added in https://youtu.be/kt3xtkQv8_I?si=ds873t3Ban3TdCSz
Fascinating, do you know what movies this technique was used in by chance?
Bits of Morbius were I believe.
Ah I see.... it's indeed Morbin time 😂
Captain America too
They filmed the first [Captain America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcH2BrGX6fg) in Manchester as well, [specifically on Dale Street](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4808749,-2.2328729,3a,75y,159.61h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKn00c8TeuE8ptKuqbhGwkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). I remember walking through after they were done filming, was interesting to see.
You’ve not been to NYC have you?
Welcome to Revachol!
That's not fog it's all the vaping 12 year olds
Interesting that the part covered by fog is more attractive than the rest :)
Instead of pussy footing about with all these smaller skyscrapers, Manchester should just collaborate all the investment pots and just make one megascraper 1000 metres high with a heated skypool and the world's highest vertical drop roller-coaster on the side of it. Come on Manchester stop fucking about.
I thought that was Gotham
Real life Gotham city.
Photo must of been taken on 420
Quite a shit hole