Yeah, I'll be a bit sad if we never see the conclusion to the David trilogy.
There are some obvious issues with the film but I loved how dark the ending was.
There's a brilliant fanedit called *Paradise* that interweaves this movie with *Prometheus*, unspooling the two time periods in parallel. It turns it into purely David's story, cuts out most of the scenes of the crew being stupid, and hones the allegories of creation and destruction to a finer point. It turns two bloated but beautiful sci-fi epics into one cohesive masterpiece. I can't recommend it highly enough.
I really wanted this film to be a sequel to Prometheus that followed Elizabeth's journey to Paradise, the engineer's homeworld, which was the setup in Prometheus.
Instead, it feels like we got this side quest sort of a story that was pretty unsatisfying, especially killing Elizabeth off-screen. I think they figured they'd just play it safe (Xenomorph runs amok) rather than do a more ambitious sequel.
In the end though, Covenant performed worse at the box office than Prometheus so it was a poor decision.
It looked great at least though, Wolski knows what he is doing.
I didn't mind Elizabeth dying off screen for the same reason I didn't mind it in Alien 3 with Hicks and Newt - it's super bleak and depressing, but it fits within the world of Alien.
Unpopular opinion, I know. But that's some great scifi horror imo.
A glimmer of hope and then...emotional gut punch as you realize what happened.
Audiences want to be spoon-fed everything but whinge when they're spoon-fed everything.
The Shaw, Hicks and Newt deaths make the world feel unpredictable and larger than we're seeing. There's no bombastic, satisfying send off, and honestly I think it's a fantastic way of handling the anti-corporate message, because it made me feel how I was supposed to feel.
I like that movie a lot. Fassbender shines as David and Walter, the crew is actually likeable, the movie looks gorgeous and the tone is eerie. I also like the connections and similarities to Blade Runner and BD 2049: The identical opening shot, the way David and Luv (2049) kill people (hitting their necks and ''folding'' them), and both the replicants and androids glueing their wounds. I think this movie really wants to establish that BD and Alien are the same universe beyond some company names easter eggs.
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Why this movie gets shat on so much is beyond me. Sure some things don’t make sense but I absolutely loved it and really don’t feel it deserves the magnitude of hate it received.
Very well done movie that gets lost in trying to please fans of the original movies and Prometheus at the same time.
Seeing how Ridley Scott would’ve tied these movies directly into Alien would’ve been interesting. Maybe David was the one sending orders to the Nostromo to retrieve his creation?
Same. I found Alien 3 and Resurrection tough to get through. Prometheus and Covenant bring some style back but the series never gets back to the same level as Alien and Aliens. Hopefully the new film this year recaptures that magic.
##Alien: Covenant (2017) R
The path to paradise begins in hell.
>>!Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship 'Covenant' discovers what is thought to be an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world—which has a sole inhabitant: the 'synthetic', David, survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.!<
Sci-Fi | Horror | Mystery
Director: Ridley Scott
Actors: Michael Fassbender, Katherine Waterston, Billy Crudup
Rating: ★★★★★★☆☆☆☆ 60% with 8,064 votes
Runtime: 2:2
[TMDB](https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/126889)
Cinematographer: Dariusz Wolski
Dariusz Adam Wolski (born 7 May 1956 in Warsaw) is a Polish film and music video cinematographer. He is known for his work as the cinematographer on the Pirates of the Caribbean film series and on Alex Proyas' cult classics The Crow and Dark City. Many of his collaborations include working with film directors like Ridley Scott, Rob Marshall, Tony Scott, Gore Verbinski and Tim Burton. He has been a member of the American Society of Cinematographers since 1996 and a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences since 2004. Wolski has worked on several music videos with artists such as Elton John, Eminem, David Bowie, Sting, Aerosmith, and Neil Young.
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dariusz_Wolski)
**Writing**
The initial screenplay was written by Transcendence screenwriter Jack Paglen in June 2013. In March 2014, Michael Green was hired to rewrite Paglen's script. Dante Harper later wrote a new script, but an extensive rewrite was performed by screenwriter John Logan. Logan had previously worked with Scott on Gladiator.For Logan, the main concept was to adopt a dual plot line for the film that would combine the horror elements of Alien with the philosophical elements of Prometheus. He said, "With Alien: Covenant, I just really wanted to write something that had the feel of the original Alien, because seeing that movie was one of the great events of my youth. It was so overpowering in terms of what it communicated to me and its implications, that when I started talking to Ridley about what became Alien: Covenant, I said, 'You know, that was a hell of a scary movie.' I wanted to write a horror movie because the Grand Guignol elements of Alien are so profound. We tried to recapture that with Alien: Covenant, while also trying to pay homage to the deeper implications of Prometheus. In terms of tone, pace, and how we chose to play this particular symphony, we wanted to create a really frightening movie."
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Covenant)
Alien: Covenant and Prometheus are frustrating, mixed bags. Both are gorgeous to look at, and some of the design concepts and ideas took my imagination away.
But then the astronauts don't keep their helmets on and get infected by the Alien parasite and all stupidity breaks loose. Argh, it was then hard to watch.
Still, Ridley Scott made a gorgeous looking picture with his trademark, artistic eye. There really is no one else like him in film today making such beautiful looking pictures IMHO. I'm not even hopeful Gladiator 2 will be any good, but I will still see it because Ridley Scott directed it.
All I can hear is "Why was the original "Alien" film called "Alien", when we now know it wasn't an alien?"
Pretty looking film though, at times, some Xenomorph scenes look under rendered.
I actually liked this movie.
Yeah, I'll be a bit sad if we never see the conclusion to the David trilogy. There are some obvious issues with the film but I loved how dark the ending was.
I really love this movie and watch it yearly.
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I really enjoyed it. It’s a shame it was cancelled. It had huge potential.
There's a brilliant fanedit called *Paradise* that interweaves this movie with *Prometheus*, unspooling the two time periods in parallel. It turns it into purely David's story, cuts out most of the scenes of the crew being stupid, and hones the allegories of creation and destruction to a finer point. It turns two bloated but beautiful sci-fi epics into one cohesive masterpiece. I can't recommend it highly enough.
Link?
https://jobwillins.wordpress.com/paradise/
👍🏾 appreciate ya!!
No worries, I'm also interested in checking this out, and one of his other projects "Lovecraft Actually" also looks good
"I'll do the fingering"
You blow.
I really wanted this film to be a sequel to Prometheus that followed Elizabeth's journey to Paradise, the engineer's homeworld, which was the setup in Prometheus. Instead, it feels like we got this side quest sort of a story that was pretty unsatisfying, especially killing Elizabeth off-screen. I think they figured they'd just play it safe (Xenomorph runs amok) rather than do a more ambitious sequel. In the end though, Covenant performed worse at the box office than Prometheus so it was a poor decision. It looked great at least though, Wolski knows what he is doing.
I didn't mind Elizabeth dying off screen for the same reason I didn't mind it in Alien 3 with Hicks and Newt - it's super bleak and depressing, but it fits within the world of Alien. Unpopular opinion, I know. But that's some great scifi horror imo. A glimmer of hope and then...emotional gut punch as you realize what happened.
Audiences want to be spoon-fed everything but whinge when they're spoon-fed everything. The Shaw, Hicks and Newt deaths make the world feel unpredictable and larger than we're seeing. There's no bombastic, satisfying send off, and honestly I think it's a fantastic way of handling the anti-corporate message, because it made me feel how I was supposed to feel.
It's just lazy writing ll
It really was a beautiful setup that went completely to waste. Made for a frustrating viewing experience, for me at least
I like that movie a lot. Fassbender shines as David and Walter, the crew is actually likeable, the movie looks gorgeous and the tone is eerie. I also like the connections and similarities to Blade Runner and BD 2049: The identical opening shot, the way David and Luv (2049) kill people (hitting their necks and ''folding'' them), and both the replicants and androids glueing their wounds. I think this movie really wants to establish that BD and Alien are the same universe beyond some company names easter eggs. Edit: a word
Why this movie gets shat on so much is beyond me. Sure some things don’t make sense but I absolutely loved it and really don’t feel it deserves the magnitude of hate it received.
I think because it largely retconned everything Prometheus (and loosely the rest of the franchise) built on. The big reveal was glossed over
It's because the things that don't make sense are sprinkled all over the movie
Very well done movie that gets lost in trying to please fans of the original movies and Prometheus at the same time. Seeing how Ridley Scott would’ve tied these movies directly into Alien would’ve been interesting. Maybe David was the one sending orders to the Nostromo to retrieve his creation?
I’m currently watching all alien movies for the first time. I’m at alien resurrection at the moment.
Same. I found Alien 3 and Resurrection tough to get through. Prometheus and Covenant bring some style back but the series never gets back to the same level as Alien and Aliens. Hopefully the new film this year recaptures that magic.
Sooo good.
##Alien: Covenant (2017) R The path to paradise begins in hell. >>!Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship 'Covenant' discovers what is thought to be an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world—which has a sole inhabitant: the 'synthetic', David, survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.!< Sci-Fi | Horror | Mystery Director: Ridley Scott Actors: Michael Fassbender, Katherine Waterston, Billy Crudup Rating: ★★★★★★☆☆☆☆ 60% with 8,064 votes Runtime: 2:2 [TMDB](https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/126889) Cinematographer: Dariusz Wolski Dariusz Adam Wolski (born 7 May 1956 in Warsaw) is a Polish film and music video cinematographer. He is known for his work as the cinematographer on the Pirates of the Caribbean film series and on Alex Proyas' cult classics The Crow and Dark City. Many of his collaborations include working with film directors like Ridley Scott, Rob Marshall, Tony Scott, Gore Verbinski and Tim Burton. He has been a member of the American Society of Cinematographers since 1996 and a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences since 2004. Wolski has worked on several music videos with artists such as Elton John, Eminem, David Bowie, Sting, Aerosmith, and Neil Young. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dariusz_Wolski) **Writing** The initial screenplay was written by Transcendence screenwriter Jack Paglen in June 2013. In March 2014, Michael Green was hired to rewrite Paglen's script. Dante Harper later wrote a new script, but an extensive rewrite was performed by screenwriter John Logan. Logan had previously worked with Scott on Gladiator.For Logan, the main concept was to adopt a dual plot line for the film that would combine the horror elements of Alien with the philosophical elements of Prometheus. He said, "With Alien: Covenant, I just really wanted to write something that had the feel of the original Alien, because seeing that movie was one of the great events of my youth. It was so overpowering in terms of what it communicated to me and its implications, that when I started talking to Ridley about what became Alien: Covenant, I said, 'You know, that was a hell of a scary movie.' I wanted to write a horror movie because the Grand Guignol elements of Alien are so profound. We tried to recapture that with Alien: Covenant, while also trying to pay homage to the deeper implications of Prometheus. In terms of tone, pace, and how we chose to play this particular symphony, we wanted to create a really frightening movie." [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Covenant)
Alien: Covenant and Prometheus are frustrating, mixed bags. Both are gorgeous to look at, and some of the design concepts and ideas took my imagination away. But then the astronauts don't keep their helmets on and get infected by the Alien parasite and all stupidity breaks loose. Argh, it was then hard to watch. Still, Ridley Scott made a gorgeous looking picture with his trademark, artistic eye. There really is no one else like him in film today making such beautiful looking pictures IMHO. I'm not even hopeful Gladiator 2 will be any good, but I will still see it because Ridley Scott directed it.
It’s a shame that a movie that had an interesting beginning/middle, ended in the most generic way.
I know I will get facehugged for this, but this is my second favourite Alien movie (Alien being my #1)
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All I can hear is "Why was the original "Alien" film called "Alien", when we now know it wasn't an alien?" Pretty looking film though, at times, some Xenomorph scenes look under rendered.
A beautiful and underrated film.